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More evidence could be coming today in Odin Lloyd murder case

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With no trial date in sight for Aaron Hernandez and the NFL season firmly up and running, it’s easy to forget about the Odin Lloyd murder investigation.

On Thursday, we’ll be reminded of it, because more evidence could be released regarding the prosecution’s theory of the events surrounding Lloyd’s death.

It’ll happen at a bail hearing for Ernest Wallace.  Charged with being an accessory after the fact, Wallace remains jailed on $500,000 bail.  Prosecutor Sam Sutter says, via the Associated Press, that more evidence aimed at justifying the high bail amount will be released when the hearing convenes.

“I think it is a very safe ­assumption that during the bail hearing you will learn about matters that you’re not aware of right now,” Sutter said. “This is a very serious ­offense. Accessory after the fact of murder [carries] a seven-year state prison sentence. We allege that he assisted, in a material way, Aaron Hernandez after the fact of the murder of Odin Lloyd.”

This strongly implies that the prosecutors believe Hernandez pulled the trigger. Proof and accusations stronger than implications apparently will be coming, as prosecutors have a legitimate vehicle for circumventing the gag order preventing the leakage of information about Hernandez’s role in the case.

On Thursday, it’s unavoidable that more proof linking Hernandez to the crime will emerge, since Hernandez’s commission of the crime is the thing to which Wallace allegedly was serving as an accessory.

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33 Responses to “More evidence could be coming today in Odin Lloyd murder case”
  1. doctorrustbelt says: Sep 26, 2013 11:00 AM

    The low character new england patriots are an embarrassment to all NFL fans.

  2. waitingguilty says: Sep 26, 2013 11:16 AM

    They need MORE evidence?

  3. pastabelly101 says: Sep 26, 2013 11:43 AM

    Forgot about Pittsburgh!

  4. groleo45 says: Sep 26, 2013 11:44 AM

    Will be really interesting to get the facts when this thing finally goes to trial.

  5. djstat says: Sep 26, 2013 11:52 AM

    But Robert Kraft was duped

  6. stealthjunk says: Sep 26, 2013 1:10 PM

    Sounds like prosecutors are just trying to bully Wallace into testifying against Hernandez. That tells me that, other than a witness with credibility issues (Carlos Ortiz), they still don’t have direct evidence that Hernandez was indeed the trigger man. Hernandez and Wallace are going to point their fingers at Ortiz, and Ortiz will point his finger at Hernandez. That will make things quite messy for the jury. Prosecutors really need Wallace to join them to clear that mess up.

  7. brassknuckles47 says: Sep 26, 2013 1:32 PM

    See you on TV, Aaron!

    ~Ray Lewis

  8. iammrbinky says: Sep 26, 2013 1:38 PM

    Hard to believe in this day and age that Massachusetts law doesn’t allow for the 1st degree murder prosecution for anyone at the scene of the murder, whether or not they pulled the trigger.

  9. datcrazybok says: Sep 26, 2013 1:43 PM

    I get that we don’t usually convict based on circumstantial evidence, but… watching that prosecutor lay out minute by minute where they were, when they left, what type of bubblegum they purchased… I mean, sure it is all circumstantial at this point, but it is pretty damn convincing. Maybe not enough to convince me that Aaron Hernandez pulled the trigger, but there’s no doubt he was involved in this thing anymore, is there?

  10. gadzod says: Sep 26, 2013 1:54 PM

    I wonder if this trial will be on HLN. If it is, I will only watch it with one exception…..Nancy Graces doesn’t touch it AT ALL.

  11. bobsnygiants says: Sep 26, 2013 2:05 PM

    if I was on the jury, with the evidence they have he’s not guilty .

  12. phreakin says: Sep 26, 2013 2:18 PM

    bobsnygiants: Considering we probably haven’t heard 1 percent of what they have that’s pretty shameful of you to say. Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely think he did it but i’m not on the jury.

  13. stealthjunk says: Sep 26, 2013 2:20 PM

    @iammrbinky: What would happen then if someone got shot at a packed nightclub and the cops didn’t know who did it? There’s a very good reason a law like that doesn’t exist in Massachusetts or anywhere else in the United States in “this day and age.” It would technically make EVERYONE guilty of first-degree murder just for being present in the vicinity of a murder scene, even when they did absolutely nothing wrong. The law does not punish people for doing nothing. First-degree murder means you actually cause the death of someone else, not that you were “present.”

    What you may be referring to is conspiracy — if there was indeed a conspiracy, then everyone that is part of the conspiracy would be guilty of first-degree murder even if they didn’t pull the trigger. Of course, you would then have to prove the conspiracy existed. Note, however, that prosecutors have not charged Hernandez or Wallace with conspiracy yet, so they cannot get the benefit of that law. Under the current charges, they need to prove Hernandez was the triggerman.

  14. tsizzlesucks says: Sep 26, 2013 2:31 PM

    Pastabelly… Is Pittsburgh still in the NFL? Looks more like an Arena League team! Or a team designed to play that other type of football. Maybe that’s really why they’re in London…..with the tea and crumpets crowd.

  15. allday28mvpmvp says: Sep 26, 2013 2:32 PM

    bobsnygiants says: Sep 26, 2013 2:05 PM

    if I was on the jury, with the evidence they have he’s not guilty .

    —–

    Yes, I’m sure you have had all the facts presented to you already, as a juror would over a period of months. You got it all figured out huh buddy

  16. bmacwillconn says: Sep 26, 2013 2:37 PM

    The attorney standing next to Odin should be arrested and jailed immediately for that haircut.

  17. mackcarrington says: Sep 26, 2013 2:38 PM

    Hernandez was a beloved football hero in New England. Of course the jury pool will be largely made up of Patriot fans. There is a very slim chance of any convictions in this case regardless of how much evidence there may be. Patriot fans don’t want the stigma of having a Patriot player convicted of murder. By this time next year Hernandez will be a free man, and possibly back in the NFL.

  18. stoutfiles says: Sep 26, 2013 2:55 PM

    If I was on the jury, with the evidence they have he’s guilty. I’d tell them they don’t even have to present any evidence, I’ve made up my mind.

  19. allday28mvpmvp says: Sep 26, 2013 3:02 PM

    @stealthjuk

    Here in MN if you are at the scene of a murder AND WITNESS IT and do not report it you are likely to be convicted of murder. So, yes, there are places in the U.S. where you can be convicted of murder without pulling the trigger. I’m sure MN isn’t the only state.

  20. allday28mvpmvp says: Sep 26, 2013 3:05 PM

    stoutfiles says: Sep 26, 2013 2:55 PM

    If I was on the jury, with the evidence they have he’s guilty. I’d tell them they don’t even have to present any evidence, I’ve made up my mind.

    —-

    That’s why lawyers are allowed to block people from being jurors. You and bobsnygiants would be dismissed in the minute you opened your mouth

  21. fatcamper says: Sep 26, 2013 3:18 PM

    @allday28mvpmvp

    I have some doubt about what you said, and am trying to find a statute or source citing this law. I’m not saying you are wrong, but can you provide a link to something verifying what you said?

  22. patsbrat says: Sep 26, 2013 3:29 PM

    There is video evidence that 4 men entered the industrial park and 3 men left. Lloyd’s body was found shortly after.

    There is also text / phone evidence that Hernandez got those 4 men together. He made the event happen.

    Does the prosecution even need to prove that AH pulled the trigger? Isn’t someone who hires a hitman just as guilty of murder 1 as the hitman himself?

  23. allday28mvpmvp says: Sep 26, 2013 3:34 PM

    fatcamper says: Sep 26, 2013 3:18 PM

    @allday28mvpmvp

    I have some doubt about what you said, and am trying to find a statute or source citing this law. I’m not saying you are wrong, but can you provide a link to something verifying what you said?

    —-

    Call any criminal defense attorney in Mpls.
    That would be the best way to confirm it for yourself

  24. allday28mvpmvp says: Sep 26, 2013 3:40 PM

    If anyone has ever seen the show The First 48, (filmed in Memphis, Dallas, Mpls, and a few other cities) There are plenty of times where someone was with someone who committed a homicide. If the person did not report the murder by the time homicide investigators get to them then they both go down for murder. It happens in like almost every episode.

  25. allday28mvpmvp says: Sep 26, 2013 3:48 PM

    @fatcamper

    In 2003 a ND man named Matthew Asbridge was shot and murdered by a man named Andrew Hegrenes. 2 other people were in the car. One was also charged with murder, the other was charged with accessory.

  26. allday28mvpmvp says: Sep 26, 2013 3:48 PM

    … In Minnesota

  27. harrisonhits2 says: Sep 26, 2013 4:05 PM

    mackcarrington says:

    Hernandez was a beloved football hero in New England. Of course the jury pool will be largely made up of Patriot fans. There is a very slim chance of any convictions in this case regardless of how much evidence there may be. Patriot fans don’t want the stigma of having a Patriot player convicted of murder.
    _______________________

    Gotta disagree with you on that Mack. I’m a Pats fan and would be more than willing to convict him provided the evidence lines up during trial the way its been laid out during the hearings.

    Unless there is a “glove don’t fit” type moment that his attorneys manage to create I don’t see him getting off at all. I don’t know any Pats fans that are too concerned with any further “stigma” as the team and fans have already suffered the damage to the brand and that’s not going to change even if he get off.

  28. mackcarrington says: Sep 26, 2013 4:29 PM

    @harrisonhits2: I completely like and respect your position. My post was designed to make reasonable minded New Englanders like yourself
    speak up . I just want to know that all fans aren’t blind fanatical fools.

  29. stealthjunk says: Sep 26, 2013 4:48 PM

    @allday28mvpmvp: There reason you can’t find a link is because your information is inaccurate. What you’re referring to is Minnesota’s “Good Samaritan” (duty to assist) law. Violating the Good Samaritan law is not anywhere close to the same thing as committing first degree murder. I.e., violating the duty to assist law carries a maximum fine of $300 and a petty misdemeanor charge, but it does NOT mean you get charged with the crime you witnessed. There’s a huge difference there of…oh, about a lifetime in jail. Here is the law:

    Minn. Stat. 604A.01 GOOD SAMARITAN LAW.
    Subdivision 1. Duty to assist. A person at the scene of an emergency who knows that another person is exposed to or has suffered grave physical harm shall, to the extent that the person can do so without danger or peril to self or others, give reasonable assistance to the exposed person. Reasonable assistance may include obtaining or attempting to obtain aid from law enforcement or medical personnel. A person who violates this subdivision is guilty of a petty misdemeanor. Subd. 4a.Petty misdemeanor. . . . “Petty misdemeanor” means a petty offense which is prohibited by statute, which does not constitute a crime and for which a sentence of a fine of not more than $300 may be imposed.

  30. lagg1 says: Sep 26, 2013 4:49 PM

    The trial hasn’t started folks-there is the presumption of innocence in this country-no matter how much Hernandez looks like a dirt bag at the moment.

  31. stealthjunk says: Sep 26, 2013 4:55 PM

    @allday28mvpmvp: Again, regarding your example, you’re confusing two entirely different laws. As I outlined in my above post, if you are part of a conspiracy, then you can be charged with any crime committed by any member of that conspiracy. That’s why you see people (e.g., getaway drivers) get arrested for murder without pulling the trigger. However, these people are NOT being charged for “failing to report” a murder or for violating a Good Samaritan law — they’re being charged for being an active part of the conspiracy to commit murder. As I stated above, Massachusetts has not (yet) alleged Hernandez, Wallace, and/or Ortiz conspired to kill Odin, so they do not get the benefit of the conspiracy laws.

  32. trg728774 says: Sep 26, 2013 5:10 PM

    @mackcarrington, that’s because you have to post that in Saints story. Saints fans are the worst at separating between being a fan and level headed . I personally would convict Aaron Hernandez. He is a punk and I’m a pats fan.

  33. datcrazybok says: Sep 26, 2013 5:39 PM

    lagg1:

    The presumption of innocence applies only in the legal system. There is a right to discuss notorious cases in a public venue in this country. Which is what we are doing. All rights remain intact.

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