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John Harbaugh: Ravens’ entire offensive line is disappointing

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Ravens coach John Harbaugh is not happy with his offensive line.

A day after a loss to the Bills in which Baltimore generated just 27 yards on the ground and saw quarterback Joe Flacco sacked four times, Harbaugh said he didn’t see much reason to be pleased about the guys up front.

“The whole O-line is disappointing right now,” Harbaugh said.

The Ravens’ offensive linemen totaled four penalties on Sunday: guard Kelechi Osemele was flagged once for a personal foul and once for being lined up illegally, guard Marshall Yanda was flagged for a false start and right tackle Michael Oher was called for holding. Harbaugh said that’s a problem, and he also said it has been a transition going from longtime veteran center Matt Birk making the line calls last year to first-year starter Gino Gradkowski making the calls.

“It’s a difference between Gino and Matt with the calls,” Harbaugh said.

And it’s a difference between the way the Ravens were playing in January and February and the way they’ve played in September. These Ravens don’t look like a Super Bowl team.

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  1. moerawn says: Sep 30, 2013 5:16 PM

    Ha Ha, not to me!

  2. dickjagger says: Sep 30, 2013 5:17 PM

    Many teams don’t look like Super Bowl teams right now, and the few who do might not look so super down the stretch? It’s still early though, and time will tell.

  3. doctorrustbelt says: Sep 30, 2013 5:17 PM

    Harbaugh fails to admit Flacco SUCKS.

    5 td — 7 int — 2 fumbles

  4. baltimoret says: Sep 30, 2013 5:18 PM

    Yes, they are definitely a problem, but they’re not the ones that made the call to run out the clock at the end of the first half when the Ravens were trailing. YOU did.

    YOU should have at least tried to get into field goal range. YOU didn’t. YOU ran out the clock instead of going for a FG that could have led to a tie game and OT. YOU are a terrible time manager.

    So start off by looking in the mirror if you want to see who messed up on Sunday.

  5. doctorrustbelt says: Sep 30, 2013 5:18 PM

    QUESTION: Whose QB rating is ranked 27th in the NFL???

  6. bigks77 says: Sep 30, 2013 5:20 PM

    And Bmac is a Fat Pig!!!

  7. harrycanyon says: Sep 30, 2013 5:20 PM

    Be happy you paid Flacco all that money, it means you crippled as a team for the foreseable future. Every team that over paid on their QBs to make them to highest paid, is paying the price as a team. Lets get realistic, and put a cap on what a single player can make. Ryan, Rogers, Flacco, Romo, account for way too much on the salary cap. The teams with younger QBs are going to prosper untill they have to renew their contracts. Enjoy the Russell Wilsons and their teams while you can.

  8. doctorrustbelt says: Sep 30, 2013 5:21 PM

    Matt Schaub 8 td — 6 int — 0 fumbles while being sacked 11 times.

    Joe Flacco 5 td — 7 int — 2 fumbles while being sacked 12 times.

  9. doctorrustbelt says: Sep 30, 2013 5:22 PM

    QUESTION: Whose completion percentage is ranked 25th in the NFL???

  10. happywolverine says: Sep 30, 2013 5:22 PM

    Yeah it’s all about how poorly the Ravens OLine played and not about how lights out the Bills D played.

  11. marcolamorsa says: Sep 30, 2013 5:26 PM

    ask tony romo about having an oline.

  12. thekiller678 says: Sep 30, 2013 5:26 PM

    The success of an offense starts and ends with the big men up front. People who understand football realize this. The media can hype up or tear down a QB as much as they want but the fact is if you have 6-8 seconds to throw in the pocket (Brady, P.Manning) you will be successful. When you are under pressure every other play (Roethlisberger, E.Manning) not much is going to get done.

    Obviously I know Peyton and Brady are clearly the better QB’s but they get too much credit for their team’s success. Broncos and Pats are both stacked with talent

  13. braven4evr says: Sep 30, 2013 5:27 PM

    the offensive line and the rest of the team were still on the party bus…smh! Why do we constantly play down to the competition…coaching…preparation…

  14. mrsingh24 says: Sep 30, 2013 5:29 PM

    The Ravens and the Steelers are starting to forget their identities offensively. Well the Steelers have forgotten everything but they’re both POWER RUN teams. The Ravens got an all-pro RB and a very solid backup RB. Their main receiver/TE is injured and the other is gone (Boldin). Yet they continue to try and pass the ball every down. I had thought with Caldwell, the play calling would have become much more balanced but it seems he’s becoming the second coming of Cameroon. Oh god.

  15. sbaltimore says: Sep 30, 2013 5:30 PM

    Hmmmm…and whose decision was it to bring in your friend, Juan Castillo, to “upgrade” the O-line/running game, John? Do you think THAT has something to do with the current problem(s)? Does Castillo advocate a zone blocking scheme that the O-linemen and the running backs haven’t grasped yet? Interesting that you’d leave THAT part out of your assessment, isn’t it, John?

  16. nfl4days says: Sep 30, 2013 5:30 PM

    So are we just gonna the 120 million dollar bum at QB. Saying hes elite is disrespectful to the TRUE elite NFL qbs.

  17. yooperman says: Sep 30, 2013 5:31 PM

    Top in pay, Bottom in production. Not a good business model.

  18. ravensterps says: Sep 30, 2013 5:32 PM

    The people saying Flacco sucks obviously didn’t watch that game. The interceptions that didn’t bounce off receivers’ hands all came with ridiculous pressure in his face. He shouldn’t have thrown them, sure, but on a day that the Ravens rushed for 27 yards, allowed 4 sacks, 8 hurries, and 12 hits, while giving up 208 yards rushing, Flacco was not the Ravens biggest problem.

    Currently, the Ravens have two healthy receivers: Tandon Doss and Torrey Smith. (Thanks Jim Leonhard for that dirty hit that knocked out Deonte Thompson in his first game back from injury).

    Flacco is one of the only parts of the team I actually do have confidence in right now.

  19. jakec4 says: Sep 30, 2013 5:33 PM

    Gradkowski has been absolutely horrendous. You don’t really see what what a center brings to the offensive line until you don’t have one.

    Thank God Juan Castillo came aboard as run game coordinator. Those two yards every carry really get a defense on it’s toes.

    Harbaugh needs to be pointing a finger at himself for that clock management at the end of the first half. It made absolutely no sense.

  20. ingraven says: Sep 30, 2013 5:36 PM

    No, Flacco doesnt suck, it’s just that EVERYTHING offensively is on him and Torrey Smith. You tell me what team that loses 4 of its top 5 receivers(due to injury) will still be looking great. Oh,I’ll wait….

  21. purpleguy says: Sep 30, 2013 5:37 PM

    Yeah, but they throw a hell of a party.

  22. mroklahoma says: Sep 30, 2013 5:38 PM

    Harbaugh just can’t admit the Bills were better than them yesterday. The Bills had a great defensive gameplan and made some great plays. Too bad their offense could not turn those opportunities to TDs from FGs. If they did it would have been a blow out

  23. vincentbojackson says: Sep 30, 2013 5:39 PM

    In Ozzy we trust.

    Who could argue with a brilliant plan that includes making your average QB the second highest paid player in the league and letting your key players walk in free agency?

  24. trollhammer20 says: Sep 30, 2013 5:40 PM

    If you only rush the ball nine times in an entire game, and throw fifty passes, aren’t you basically on your knees begging the other team to ignore the possibility of the run and release the hounds of the pass rush? Are you not therefore putting your offensive linemen in the unenviable position of having to deal with defensive players who are playing a one-dimensional game, because that’s all they need to do?

    And if that is the case…who’s fault is that, exactly?

  25. ballinmore says: Sep 30, 2013 5:41 PM

    Even after tearing his Achilles last night Vince Wilfork would still be able to get past Gino. Dude sucks.

    Flacco will catch all the crap for the 5 Int’s but I think 4 out of 5 hit receivers in the hands. Brick hand Dickson needs to go as well.

  26. wearethesteelers says: Sep 30, 2013 5:41 PM

    Worst o-line in the league. 20 rushing yards, 15 QB hits — against the Bills. Pathetic.

  27. jmblosser82 says: Sep 30, 2013 5:43 PM

    Again raven fans blame everyone but Flacco. Even with Pitta Flacco would struggle.

  28. wryly1 says: Sep 30, 2013 5:43 PM

    John, the problem is your $120 million QB. Who didn’t see this coming – other than ratbird homers? This past summer, I posted here three different times that Ravens would be no better than a .500 team this year. I got thumbs down by 2:1

  29. tomcous says: Sep 30, 2013 5:44 PM

    Any chance the Bills have a decent Defensive front that wreaked a little havoc.

    When the Ravens slid out extra help to contain Mario Williams the middle opened up for Dareus & Kyle Williams … Alan Branch was even a factor of getting in Flacco’s face.

  30. Nofoolnodrool says: Sep 30, 2013 5:45 PM

    The Ravens are not as bad as the Steelers on the o line, but give them a break they had a bad day. Ravens are not a good road team at the beginning of the season, but seem to get together at the end. I ll trade your o line for ours any day. Patience ladies patience.

  31. Nofoolnodrool says: Sep 30, 2013 5:48 PM

    ingraven | Sep 30, 2013, 5:36 PM EDT
    No, Flacco doesnt suck, it’s just that EVERYTHING offensively is on him and Torrey Smith. You tell me what team that loses 4 of its top 5 receivers(due to injury) will still be looking great. Oh,I’ll wait….

    But during the championship season during mar, April, May, June you guys were bragging about how good your receivers would be and Boldin wouldn’t be missed. And now you wonder why you are being laughed at now? Smh

  32. ravenmomma says: Sep 30, 2013 5:49 PM

    Come on PFT, it is 4 weeks in…no team (outside of Denver) is going to look like a Super Bowl team this soon. All teams are still putting the pieces together this early in the season. I ask you…did the Ravens look like a Super Bowl team last year at this time? Us fans would have said HELL NO! But, we did go on to win the Super Bowl. Let’s see what adjustments are made and how the team(s) look at the midway mark. Yes, our O-line is horrible right now and the loss of Boldin and Pitta is killing us too but the Ravens under Harbaugh and Flacco have gotten it together enough each year to go deep in the playoffs so don’t start salivating at the thought of the Ravens being out just yet. Chances are they will work out the kinks and be just fine.

  33. Forsbergler is literally too stupid to insult says: Sep 30, 2013 5:53 PM

    “A mediocre football team, win, lose, it doesnt matter, thats what you are. They can talk about what we couldnt do, and we we wouldnt do, and what we couldnt do. But we are a mediocre football team with an over rated QB…”

  34. mc321984 says: Sep 30, 2013 5:55 PM

    For Ravens fans using the WR injury excuse for Flacco, how do you answer the Bills being without their top 4 cornerbacks?

  35. nattypoes says: Sep 30, 2013 6:02 PM

    Excuse me guys, we prefer to be called the “Super Bowl Champion Baltimore Ravens.” K Thanks.

    And we’re not exactly bottom dwellers here, we’re tied for 1st place. We played the worse game I’ve seen since that primetime Jacksonville game a few years ago, and yet we still had two opportunities to win the game in the final minutes. We played an historically bad game, 5 INTs and gave up over 200 yards rushing, and still could have won at the end. I’m not worried at all. If I would ever start to worry I’d just think about how well the Steelers are doing.

  36. stainlessstill says: Sep 30, 2013 6:03 PM

    As bad as the Rats oline has looked, they aren’t anywhere NEAR as bad as Pittsburgh’s, who are losing more lineman as fast as ever. Give Big Ben Flacco’s line and the Steelers would be undefeated right now!

  37. allhailkingflacco says: Sep 30, 2013 6:06 PM

    @doctorrustbelt

    Who’s the reigning SB MVP ?

    Now go to bed.

  38. larrydavid7000 says: Sep 30, 2013 6:16 PM

    So is your team.!!! Not even the number one team in your own city. lol and LMAO.!!!

  39. mcguenther13 says: Sep 30, 2013 6:19 PM

    @ravensterps….watch that play again because it wasn’t Jim Leonard that delivered the hit, which wasn’t dirty to begin with due to shoulder making contact first before the glancing blow of the helmet

  40. ingraven says: Sep 30, 2013 6:20 PM

    @ Nofoolnodrool

    No we don’t miss Boldin. Haven’t heard from him since Week 1 when he caught what will be the majority of his 2013 total yards. But when the talent we do have is not playing cuz of injury it hurts. Once we get healthy offensively, which may be this week, we will be fine.

  41. Nofoolnodrool says: Sep 30, 2013 6:20 PM

    Excuse me guys, we prefer to be called the “Super Bowl Champion Baltimore Ravens.” K Thanks.

    And we’re not exactly bottom dwellers here, we’re tied for 1st place. We played the worse game I’ve seen since that primetime Jacksonville game a few years ago, and yet we still had two opportunities to win the game in the final minutes. We played an historically bad game, 5 INTs and gave up over 200 yards rushing, and still could have won at the end. I’m not worried at all. If I would ever start to worry I’d just think about how well the Steelers are doing.

    The steelers aren’t the defending SB chumps…you are but don’t let that deflate your bloated ego. If if if at the end, but didn’t didn’t didn’t….if a frog had wings he would bump his butt on the ground when he jumps….who said anything about the steelers….we know they are bad…..you don’t think the ravens are…..shocking logic…..hurts …reality check baby.

  42. ingraven says: Sep 30, 2013 6:24 PM

    @ mc321984 says: Sep 30, 2013 5:55 PM

    For Ravens fans using the WR injury excuse for Flacco, how do you answer the Bills being without their top 4 cornerbacks?
    ——————————————————–
    It takes more chemistry & timing for a WR to run a route & QB to know when & where that WR will be on that play, than it does for a CB to cover a WR wherever he goes. That being said, losing 4 of your 5 top receivers hurts MORE than not having your top 4 corners.

  43. lovefootball4life says: Sep 30, 2013 6:24 PM

    Wasn’t expecting the o line to have problems this year since only the center was swapped out. Run game and passing game all depend on it. It doesn’t help Smith is considered the only viable threat. Right now teams aren’t even afraid of Rice. Remeber when they’d stack the box to shut him down? As I read somewhere Smith will draw triple coverage until a run game emerges or another receiving threat emerges. This performance was a setback but like I said before at least the rest of the AFCN is struggling.

  44. steelcurtainn says: Sep 30, 2013 6:30 PM

    “These Ravens don’t look like a Super Bowl team.”

    The Ravens never looked like a superbowl team last year much less this year.

  45. Nofoolnodrool says: Sep 30, 2013 6:35 PM

    ingraven | Sep 30, 2013, 6:20 PM EDT
    @ Nofoolnodrool

    No we don’t miss Boldin. Haven’t heard from him since Week 1 when he caught what will be the majority of his 2013 total yards. But when the talent we do have is not playing cuz of injury it hurts. Once we get healthy offensively, which may be this week, we will be fine.

    The injury excuse from a raven fan……really? Aren’t you the team of next man up? Can’t have it both ways…..oh yes you can I forgot a Raven rules what’s good for us is not good for you…..weak sauce skippy.

  46. mc321984 says: Sep 30, 2013 6:36 PM

    @ingraven

    That’s a pathetic defense and a reach at best. Why can’t Ravens fans admit that Flacco played awful?

    Same example you listed, EJ Manuel is a rookie with young WR corp. He missed half of preseason with a knee injury. What about his chemistry?

  47. lovefootball4life says: Sep 30, 2013 6:36 PM

    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Sep 30, 2013 6:20 PM

    The steelers aren’t the defending SB chumps…you are but don’t let that deflate your bloated ego. If if if at the end, but didn’t didn’t didn’t….if a frog had wings he would bump his butt on the ground when he jumps….who said anything about the steelers….we know they are bad…..you don’t think the ravens are…..shocking logic…..hurts …reality check baby.

    Nofool why do you insult Ravens fans for being fans and having hope? Why is it important to you they give up as you apparently have with your Steelers. You guys call folks out for being bandwagon fans yet here they are sticking with their team in a tough time. Doesn’t make sense.

  48. Bill Belichick says: Sep 30, 2013 6:43 PM

    ingraven says:
    Sep 30, 2013 5:36 PM
    No, Flacco doesnt suck, it’s just that EVERYTHING offensively is on him and Torrey Smith. You tell me what team that loses 4 of its top 5 receivers(due to injury) will still be looking great. Oh,I’ll wait….
    _______________________________

    Funny that you added the “due to injury” part of your argument. That way the Pats cant be the example to debunk your moronic statement…

  49. squared80 says: Sep 30, 2013 6:46 PM

    Oher has been overrated since he had a movie made about him, and the fat lazy POS on the other side is the same POS he’s always been. Just fatter.

  50. bmore44 says: Sep 30, 2013 6:51 PM

    Flacco wasn’t a problem or not calling Ray Rice # more than 5 x. To slow a pass rush. You throw screen passes. Not 1 to ray rice. Are you kidding ?

  51. williamshatnerstoupee says: Sep 30, 2013 6:53 PM

    “Who’s the reigning SB MVP ?

    Which means absolutely nothing this year.
    Whose idea was it to give Five Picks Flacco such a big contract? Foolish decision.

  52. lennylyles says: Sep 30, 2013 6:55 PM

    Flacco has had poor regular season games in the past. . But everyone knows Flacco is a winner and is one dropped pass from being in two straight Superbowls. Five seasons in the NFL, five straight years in the playoffs. The Ravens are still tied for first in their division. Come playoff time even if Joe is surrounded with below average talent his history says he will deliver.

  53. sidepull says: Sep 30, 2013 7:01 PM

    Hey when your elite, well then you just are.

  54. baltimoresnativeson says: Sep 30, 2013 7:46 PM

    For all you Flacco / Baltimore / Newsome/ Harbaugh hating losers out there……

    Bottom line is the Ravens are tied for their division lead right now, and technically have the division lead based on tie breakers.

    The Steelers are toast, The Browns are the Browns. Unless Cincy stays the course, the RAVENS WILL WIN THEIR 3RD CONSECUTIVE DIVISION TITLE.

    Chew on that you ball-less, champion hating, jealous losers.

  55. jmblosser82 says: Sep 30, 2013 7:50 PM

    Nattypoes, I guess you missed the spanking given to the ravens by the broncos in just week 1. Flacco had a decent first half in week 1 and since he has blown. The defense beat the texans and the defense did most if the work against the browns.
    As far as looking like a superbowl caliber team last year this time, didn’t the ravens star out 9-3? This years team looks a lot worse then last, consider it a blessing if you even get to the playoffs cause it won’t be a deep run.

  56. bengalskuta82 says: Sep 30, 2013 7:57 PM

    This is why the NFL is so fun to follow.
    Almost all of the teams,(except the Broncos) are inconsistent. You can trash talk the other team all you want on game day but deep down inside you have a little fear your team will lose doesn’t matter who you’re playing. The NFL is hard to predict. Any team in the NFL is capable of beating any team in the NFL..This is awesome!

  57. baltimoresnativeson says: Sep 30, 2013 8:01 PM

    And for anyone living under a rock the past 5 years.
    Flacco has 2 or 3 of these horrible games every year. Also has 2 or 3 lights out games. The rest are average but good enough to win and get to the playoffs. He is the model of inconsistency.

    Until playoff time. Then he’s pretty good. Over the past 3 years he has better playoff stats than everyone in the league except for Brady, rogers and brees.

    Yeah that’s right, even better than golden boy Peyton manning. Look it up losers.

  58. Nofoolnodrool says: Sep 30, 2013 8:03 PM

    lovefootball4life | Sep 30, 2013, 6:36 PM EDT
    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Sep 30, 2013 6:20 PM

    The steelers aren’t the defending SB chumps…you are but don’t let that deflate your bloated ego. If if if at the end, but didn’t didn’t didn’t….if a frog had wings he would bump his butt on the ground when he jumps….who said anything about the steelers….we know they are bad…..you don’t think the ravens are…..shocking logic…..hurts …reality check baby.

    Nofool why do you insult Ravens fans for being fans and having hope? Why is it important to you they give up as you apparently have with your Steelers. You guys call folks out for being bandwagon fans yet here they are sticking with their team in a tough time. Doesn’t make sense.

    It’s very simple you have had success very early in your history and expect it every year. It is much harder than that. That is why we say six rings mean something and now you are feeling the pressure of being the champ. We tried to tell you, but no history is for old farts like me. Well when reality bites you in the ass you can whine like a raven or laugh at it like a steeler and say we have done it before we will do it again. Please stop stomping your feet and whining.

  59. purpleattack says: Sep 30, 2013 9:22 PM

    No one cares if Flacco sucks haters, we have the trophy ROFL.

  60. mtavin says: Sep 30, 2013 9:32 PM

    That’s weird. Because by some metrics, 2013′s OL is actually performing better than 2012′s. Ex. According to AdvancedNFLStats.com, BLT’s oline logged WPAs/EPAs of -1.66/-42.4 in 2012, good for 31st (or 2nd worst); after 4 games in 2013, they’re ranked 21st with a WPA/EPA of -0.17/-3.3.

    Go figure? Here’s what I figured: Going from +0.7 (5th/2012) to -0.5 (21st/2013) in turnover differential says a lot more about the 2-2 Ravens than vague gripes about your oline.

  61. ravenmuscle says: Sep 30, 2013 10:21 PM

    The only thing that matters to me is that Flacco got his $120 million…Harbaugh got a new 4 year deal for over $6 million per year AND that Anquan Boldin is off the team and playing for the 49ers.
    We got the Lombardi…nobody cares what happens this year. Its reloading time.

  62. northstarnic says: Oct 1, 2013 2:37 AM

    Burt and the ravens are awful. Nice contract your genius gm signed off on for your mediocre QB. Going to regret that one for a while.

  63. northstarnic says: Oct 1, 2013 2:39 AM

    Behold! The curse of SWEET PEE!

  64. jtbsteeler says: Oct 1, 2013 10:08 AM

    After the Steelers and Ravens play each other, both teams will be 2-4.

  65. steelerben says: Oct 1, 2013 10:18 AM

    There are two people on the offense that touch the ball every play, the quarterback and the center. Losing one of them has a profound impact on the way that your offense functions. While the quarterback tend to be the most noticeable and gets all of the press, the center making line calls and setting your blocking is every bit as important as finding the open receiver. The Steelers losing Pouncy to injury have had a bad line go to terrible. The Ravens, with the retirement of Birk, have seen their line go from solid to poor.

    Love or hate Big Ben or Joe Cool, it doesn’t matter what offensive weapons you give them if you can’t give them three seconds to see the field without 600+ lbs of defensive line joining them in the backfield. Every single tight end, running back, or wide receiver on both teams was good enough to make an NFL team out of the pool of hundred if not thousands of people trying. Both quarterbacks have championship pedigrees. Without a functional offensive line, you can’t just run the ball more, or toss out a screen pass. Who’s going to block for it? If the O-Line is disorganized because the communication is lacking, the center is missing where the blitz is coming from, or they flat out don’t understand when to pass off their block to one of the guards to double team and open a hole, then how great will your offense look?

    The good news is that as the season progresses these lines will get to know each other and grow more comfortable in their schemes.

    As far as giving Flacco a big contract, yes that did happen. However his cap number isn’t huge this season and really didn’t effect the overall makeup of the team. Boldin walking turned into Dumerville and Canty, which made a big impact on a defense that just lost two hall of famers.

  66. watermelon1 says: Oct 1, 2013 1:17 PM

    A good quarterback makes offensive lines look a lot better.

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