Report: Freeman told to stay away from team meeting

AP

When the Buccaneers made the decision to bench quarterback Josh Freeman, head coach Greg Schiano said Freeman would do what is expected of every other player.

But that may not be the case any longer.

Jay Glazer of FOX just reported on FOX Football  Daily that Freeman was told to stay away from a team meeting today, and stay in the trainer’s room instead.

Considering the Bucs were willing to tell everyone about Freeman’s attendance issues in the past, the decision to order him to stay away seems odd on the surface.

While keeping a potential distraction at arm’s length isn’t a bad idea, the way the Bucs are handling this continues to appear clumsy, and will continue to until they figure out a face-saving way to move him.

And the longer this goes, the less likely that appears.

102 responses to “Report: Freeman told to stay away from team meeting

  1. Not really odd to keep a player you plan on trading or releasing out of team meetings.

    Especially, because the meeting could be about him.

    Or they could be talking about things they don’t want a future opponent to have knowledge about.

  2. PFT is beating this into the ground. Why would you let a player in a strategic meeting that probably will not be around much longer? Schiano is a terrible coach, but I don’t see the issue here.

  3. Face saving ….that’s what it’s all about,….the slander, the lies ..all of it .

    The most unprofessional team in the league

  4. Saving face? That ship sailed about twenty leaks ago.

    However, the organization could begin the process of regaining credibility by firing the incompetent monstrosity that is Greg Schiano.

  5. The Bucs are becoming the Jets South.

    Why not just get the inevitable over now, fire Greg Schiano and start the rebuild.

  6. Man oh man, the NFC “Dirty” South is keeping up it’s rep.
    Now that the Bucs are doing shady things now we’re all “dirty.” SMH

    Falcons – Hookers on Super Bowl’s Eve
    Saints – Bountygate*
    Panthers – Convicted murderer Rae Carruth
    Buccaneers – violating confidentiality? TBD

  7. Schiano has an ego that far surpasses his skill as a coach. The guy has no idea…zero…of how to coach adults. His tactics might work with high school or college kids, but these are grown men and his childish strong-arm tactics are going to blow up in his face, sooner than later.

  8. Schiano is just in way over his head. This isnt college buddy…you can’t boss around men like boys and expect to gain their respect. Time to go now…buh bye!

  9. They probably can’t get anything in trade for him now, esp with that contract in the middle of the yr, when teams know they have to release him. Maybe setting up a ‘conduct detrimental to the team’ thing to try to recoup some money?

  10. thesmartest1 says: Oct 1, 2013 6:17 PM

    Now that 7th round pick would be fortunate.

    They could still trade for a 10th round pick.
    Oh wait………….

  11. you really think that keeping a player that you are actively trading/possibly cutting away from team meetings is a bad idea? or are you just trying to create drama where there is none?

    i’m sure Freeman is not the first player in the NFL to be told to stay out of a team meeting

  12. Trade deadline is in 4 week (THX Ed Werder).

    That said…. there are better 2nd string quarterbacks on a 3 or 4 losing teams that might want to score a draft pick or two.

    Nobody wants Josh Freeman as a starter.

  13. A typical college coach using college tactics on a professional platform. It won’t be long before Schiano is chased out of town. I am not taking sides here, but it appears that the Bucs are scrambling and continue to let distractions guide football decisions. If Schiano truly wanted this team be his, why did the Patriots draft all of the talent from those Rutgers teams? In order to be successful, you have to have a number of ‘your guys’ to set the tone moving forward. Who do the Bucs have? Fresh Prince Underwood?

  14. What a classless organization. They need to send the coach back to college. The owners are not much better. Release the poor guy or allow him to perform as a team member

  15. Bucs ownership need to fire this coach asap…I feel so sorry for the bucs fans, players, community and organization to go thru this mad drama Schiano is causing..this drama is worse than the Jets circus…if I’m a bucs player, I would not want to play for this idiot, if Schiano last thru the season..I see a 2-14 season for the bucs and Schiano gets Fired!

  16. Teams bench QBs constantly yet you almost never see a meltdown of this magnitude. Schiano is totally in over his head. He’s going to get rid of Freeman but assure his own firing at the same time.

  17. @notdemfalcons

    i don’t think teams are informed of a first time offence with the drug policy, i believe that stays between the player and the league. If that is the case and the “report” is true about what was leaked, it more than likely someone from Freeman’s camp that leaked it, ruining what little trade value he had hoping to force the Bucs hand and release him. That way he gets his money and can sign with anyone that would want him.

  18. Rex Ryan is like “Dude, you are a frikking lifesaver.” Clown car on it’s way to Florida.

  19. I’ve never felt pity for a millionaire athlete before…still don’t but the Bucs are really handling this badly.

  20. The real irony here is that this time next year, Freeman will still have employment in the NFL in some capacity while Schiano will be lucky if he can get a good college gig.

    Enjoy the ride to 3-13, Schiano, and my condolences, Bucs fans. You guys really deserve much better.

  21. Here’s what Tampa needs to do:

    1. Get rid of Freeman now

    2. Get rid of Schiano now and hire an interim head coach.

    3. Hire a solid coaching candidate in the offseason.

    4. Start preparing to draft a franchise QB next year.

  22. Too bad that Florida does not allow medicinal use of marijuana, as it looks like Coach Schiano could benefit from it.

  23. Schiano’s Record at Rutgers:

    68 wins – 67 losses

    28 wins – 48 losses (conference play)

    LOL!!!

  24. Again I say, fire Schiano now. The players clearly don’t want him. They’d probably have a better end to the season with an interim head coach. Don’t make these players suffer for 3 more months.

  25. doctorrustbelt says: Oct 1, 2013 6:39 PM

    Schiano’s Record at Rutgers:

    68 wins – 67 losses

    28 wins – 48 losses (conference play)

    LOL!!!

    ______________________________________

    You have to keep in mind that Schiano basically built that program from the ground. His overall winning percentage is very misleading.

  26. donnymacjack says:
    Oct 1, 2013 6:25 PM
    Schiano has an ego that far surpasses his skill as a coach. The guy has no idea…zero…of how to coach adults. His tactics might work with high school or college kids, but these are grown men and his childish strong-arm tactics are going to blow up in his face, sooner than later.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    What examples of Freeman’s recent behavior lead you to believe Schiano is actually coaching “adults” in this case? Was it the work ethic? The petulance? The honed skills? No, Freeman has behaved like an irresponsible child.

    The style was identical last year and I don’t remember any issues (other than the bogus outcry over the victory formation).

    The difference this year: No Ronde Barber. The Bucs no longer have a respected player that can pull guys aside and say something like: “You are being a punk. Man up and get to work.” Instead, they talk bad about the coach because they don’t like being disciplined. It is still a holdover from the utter lack of discipline due to Raheem Morris’ buddy style. Schiano is trying to fix that and there is no longer an influential player to help. that should have been Freeman but we can plainly see he was never up to that task.

  27. I still think Freeman gives the Bucs the best chance to win the next game. And the Bucs have chosen to make him an outcast. Interesting pre-game strategy for your starting QB.

  28. I don’t know what the vikings are waiting for in this. The price for Freeman is so low that even now the vikings can afford to make the trade.

    He is everything the vikings look for in their retread QB’s.

  29. If Schiano was fired, who would be most likely to take over as interim coach? Dave Wannstedt is the special teams coordinator.

  30. I took most of the “Greg Schiano is a mean man!” stories with a grain of salt but this is completely absurd. For the Glazers to put up with this circus from a coach who is 0-4 is embarrassing. We can debate whether Schiano is in over his head. We can listen to gossip about whether he’s a jerk. But that the handling of Freeman is a farce and Schiano has coached terribly since at least the start of the 2013 season is beyond debate. It’s fact. The empirical evidence is mounting.

  31. Schiano may have a lot to learn about coaching in the pros, but he’s 4 gms into his 2nd season. Plenty of coaches aren’t liked by their players(Coughlin for one, and don’t tell me about this yr, he’s won 2 SBowls). He’s smart to get away from Freeman, esp when he’s trying to shoot his way out of town. He’s made a lot of transactions so far, let’s see what happens when he has time to get his type of players in there. He should get another yr.

    The argument about Rutger’s rec is lame. Schiano brought that program back from the dead. He took them to 7 bowl gms , when they hadn’t been since 1978. The previous coach went 11-44, and they were a laughingstock. Went 9-5 in his conf in the last 2 yrs, with a D that was top 15 in the nation.

  32. bobnelsonjr says:
    Oct 1, 2013 6:52 PM
    I don’t know what the vikings are waiting for in this. The price for Freeman is so low that even now the vikings can afford to make the trade.

    He is everything the vikings look for in their retread QB’s.

    —————————————————-

    I read this and thought this guy could be brain dead enough to be a packer fan. Then I read the name. He is a cheese head. Sorry to break this to you, but green bay and Minnesota have the same number of wins so far this season little guy *Kisses*

  33. bobnelsonjr says:
    Oct 1, 2013 6:52 PM
    I don’t know what the vikings are waiting for in this. The price for Freeman is so low that even now the vikings can afford to make the trade.

    He is everything the vikings look for in their retread QB’s.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I disagree. Freeman is much too young

  34. You can’t help but wonder if the ownership is having a closed-door meeting about Schiano during this whole mess. He can’t be making any better impression on them than he’s made on the everyone else to this point.

    He has the look of a coach that wishes he was still coaching in the college ranks.

    Somebody pull the rip-cord on this free-fall!

  35. Freeman sucks and conducts himself like a 14 year old, but it’s Schiano’s fault, fire him.

    Got it.

  36. I think it makes sense if TB has decided he has played his last game.
    They have three weeks to deal him or they will cut him. He possibly could end up on a rival why let him in on team strategy etc.
    Second, IMHO they believe he and his agent are the ones doing the leaking to make them look bad so why give him any more fuel from a team meeting.

    Hey he is getting paid so he must adhere to what they instruct him. Obviously he wants to be the thorn that forces them to cut him but they are way to smart for that. He gets what he wants and their money to boot.

  37. I hope this gets Schiano fired. No place on football to treat a player this way. While he needs to improve, Schiano is a jerk for the having it come out this way. Bush league all the way.

  38. Schiano signed a 5 year $15 million dollar deal. This is his second season. The Glazers aren’t eating no $10 million on a coach. He’s going to be there for a while.

    Schaino is doing what any good executive does when things go to heck. Obfuscate and point fingers. “I didn’t screw up, this drug using chronically late excuse for a QB is the problem!” What a dumpster fire.

  39. roxtar10 says:
    Oct 1, 2013 6:19 PM
    How do you type the sound of an implosion?
    __________
    Fwoop?

  40. I feel bad for Freeman….while he didn’t pan out as a franchise QB for the Bucs he doesn’t deserve this treatment. Schiano on the other hand has always came across as a complete tool and needs to be fired immediately. Look at how they are treating Freeman and don’t forget how they have treated Tynes too…bringing real shame to the Bucs franchise. Fire Schiano.

  41. I’m officially off of the Schiano bandwagon. Discipline and an expectation of professionalism are one thing. Going behind players backs, undermining team chemistry is something else. Certainly Freeman shoulders some of the responsibility for not taking his position as starting QB/face of the franchise seriously enough to make a team photo but the way this whole thing went down just ain’t right. If Schiano lobbied players to replace Freeman as a team captain, that’s dead wrong. Player choose who they feel is the right man. Announcing they’ve had meetings in the front office to discuss sitting him doesn’t sit well either. The head coach makes the decisions who plays and who doesn’t so if Schiano is to stupid to make the call himself, he doesn’t belong in the position. The whole thing stinks of the new regime made a choice a long time ago but didn’t have the stones to pull the trigger. How the hell are the players supposed to trust an organization like that?

  42. Remember when the public outcry used to be against the lazy, slacking, underperforming party boy who doesn’t really care about getting better at his job, and not against the coach who benched him?

    Boy, those were the days.

  43. What a horrible way to treat Freeman. Schiano thinks he’s still in college. He isn’t coaching children now, but he sure treats them like that.
    Maybe it won’t be long before he’s asked to pack his bags.

  44. The amount of cocaine he was on, this whole thing probably saved his life. He will look back and be great full. The media needs to leave it alone so he can go and get the help and support he needs.

  45. I want to know how many of you have spoken to Schiano? Glazers? Dominick? Anyone…anyone… Not one of you have has one thing from any of them but you have chosen to say Schiano is this and that. Someone pointed out last year and Rhonde barber which is a valid point but better off I would say what happened last year to tis year? Two things that are prevalent this year that were not last year–> more comments from Josh and Josh losing his grip on the job. That is fact everything all of you have stated about Schiano are conjecture or what someone else of someone else has said, which means bullsheep. You see the media shaped something and since most people now are dumb, ill formed, tweeters, hyper on Addie’s, and depressed on Prozac they can also mold it how they want and you dumb ones run away with it because they told you to. Our society is pathetic as you can see with this exchange. No facts all hot air about the coach but you blame him. Just amazing.

  46. You guys are really insulting the Jets by comparing them to this Mongolian Cluster Frack named Tampa Bay Bucs. The Jets are at least 2-2 and has the number 2 defense in the NFL.

  47. roxtar10 says: Oct 1, 2013 6:19 PM

    How do you type the sound of an implosion?
    ————

    MOOB!

  48. ddmcd1974 says: Oct 1, 2013 8:36 PM

    I want to know how many of you have spoken to Schiano? Glazers? Dominick? Anyone…anyone… Not one of you have has one thing from any of them but you have chosen to say Schiano is this and that. Someone pointed out last year and Rhonde barber which is a valid point but better off I would say what happened last year to tis year? Two things that are prevalent this year that were not last year–> more comments from Josh and Josh losing his grip on the job. That is fact everything all of you have stated about Schiano are conjecture or what someone else of someone else has said, which means bullsheep. You see the media shaped something and since most people now are dumb, ill formed, tweeters, hyper on Addie’s, and depressed on Prozac they can also mold it how they want and you dumb ones run away with it because they told you to. Our society is pathetic as you can see with this exchange. No facts all hot air about the coach but you blame him. Just amazing.
    ———————————————————–

    So, from this post should I assume you are in regular contact with the coach and management?

  49. As I’ve said before, I don’t understand the comments about how schiano is a terrible coach who’s tactics don’t work on “grown men” only college kids. These grown men get paid millions of dollars to do whSt their coach tells them to do. These “grown men” need to grow up and do their jobs. That being said if freeman is about to be cut or traded they have every right snd they should keep him out of every organized team activity. Allowing his disgruntled behind around the other players would not be intelligent.

  50. it time for him to stay away, bad coach. I guess he did’nt learn anything when the team was practing with the Patriots for a week.

  51. Hahaha, “Freeman told to stay away from Meeting”
    vs “GM tells Freeman to miss meeting to meet with Schiano”

    very misleading title.
    I like how the Bucs have turned into the bad guys, but no mention of Freeman’s lack of commitment to the team in the offseason, and him missing meetings last week when he was fully expected to be in them.

    But I guess when you have an agenda to fill why mentions those?

  52. Get rid of him already! Not only is he a pretty good kid but he once upon a time showed promise. Everyday they keep him his career goes slips down the drain even more.

  53. bum? On a team with a crappy O-line no star receivers Freeman still passed for over 4000 yards last year. with a swiss cheese offense line your ints go up and most of the those came from receivers letting balls bounce off there hands. Bums don’t put up the numbers Freeman does on a lame team. Issue is the coach not the QB Freeman has skills 2012 Season Stats: 306/558; 4,065 passing yards; 27 TD to 17 INT; 81.6 QB rating.

  54. I don’t like Schiano and as a Bucs fan think he should be fired for on the field results but this media driven agenda to run him out of town and ruin his reputation by blaming everything & anything on him, while the majority of readers are lemmings that will lap up any old garbage they read like it’s fact no matter how illogicial. Next thing we will be hearing how it’s all Schianos fault the US Government is struggling to balance the books and how he’s responsible for Syria.
    Truth is he’s just a hard nosed, tool NOT the devil.
    It’s amazing how easily Josh is getting away with acting like a petulant child and it’s the Bucs that are being looked at as being in the wrong.
    What exactly has the team done so wrong that has been proven to be them, all the other stuff is rumours and with the way Freeman & his team are acting would be prime suspects for creating those issues to get attention.
    So they benched a QB that had stats among the worst, if not THE worst, in the league, a guy who’s on filed play was actually worse than the stats if you actually watched him play. Then when he threw the toys out the pram they didn’t want him on or near the team but don’t want to reward a turd by just outright releasing him. Why should the team take a cap hit and get nothing in return? If Josh really wants out return the remaining prorated portion of his signing bonus and waive any claim to the rest of this years salary.
    People act like he’s being tortured and abused by a sadist.

  55. I worked for a large corporation at one time and the method they used to get rid of an unwanted employee without having to pay him unemployment for out and out firing him, was to make his life at work so miserable until he was worn down and just quit.

    They just make it obvious that he’s persona non grata and, unless he’s George Costanza, he finds another job and leaves.

    I suspect the Glazers don’t want to pay him the money he is entitled to and are using the same tactic with Josh Freeman.

    If true, that’s pretty low, isn’t it.

  56. How is the team imploding? Shiano is a great coach and is exactly what the Bucs need. The defense seems to be responding well to his influence. What happens when Glennon starts winning games? Whose head will you be calling for then?

  57. The circus may have left East Hanover (NYJ) NJ and moved down to Tampa, but there is a nice side-show about to develop with NY Giants very soon.

    Team is 0-4 and nobody cares!
    Head Coach is not upset, he is old anyway.
    Players are not upset, because nobody in management cares.
    Even the fans are not upset because, well, they are all old too.

    The only people who are up in arms about the NYG season are the local media but they dont show it lest they get blacklisted by NYG including Fatty Francessa.

    This all comes crashing down very, very soon. Buy your tickets and popcorn!!!

  58. Last Sunday Freeman was declared inactive for the game. He has his own suite at the stadium and chose to sit there with his family.

    Someone from the Bucs made him move to the Bucs suite which is also used for inactive players.

    How small can the Bucs get in this soap opera?

  59. As a long time Tampa based fan of the Buccaneers, I place this disaster squarely at the feet of this head coach… For a team so poised with young players last season to move in a positive direction, the ridiculous talking points and scrambling about of mixed messages leaking into the media wreaks of coaching issues and involvement.

    Its high time the Glazer family step in and rid themselves of this poison.

  60. Schiano doesn’t know how to handle this issue. He probably can coach but he just isn’t a leader obviously.
    -lied about Josh attending Sundays in a suit was a agreement between him and Josh. Josh agent said that was a lie.
    – Rushing the passer when its a kneel down/surrender situation. I’m thinking, what??.This is cultural in the NFL.
    -Obviously the ongoing drama isn’t being handled well

    I bet he’s going to be without a job next season

  61. The big problem is that HIPAA is something that the general public is aware of and can relate to. Releasing someones private health information is not just bad, it’s against the law. That is not a minor problem, the NFLPA will sue them, and they will lose.

    Schiano may or may not have been the one who actually released that information illegally, there is no way to know. But if he did not do it himself, he did create and foster the divisive, negative environment that is responsible for it. That’s just bad coaching. The information release is a big problem, but it is really indicative of the larger problem of a coach creating a toxic locker room.

    You do have Tynes too.. so maybe the problem is higher up.. but there is definitely a problem and a divided team is going to play worse than they have the potential to play.

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