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Schiano wants people to quit complaining about his approach to “victory” formation

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The good news?  The Buccaneers may have a diversion from this year’s distraction involving coach Greg Schiano.

The bad news?  It’s last year’s distraction involving coach Greg Schiano.

Schiano’s habit of instructing defensive players to “blow up” the opposing team’s “victory” formation has once again reared its head, with the Bucs doing it for the final snaps of Sunday’s 13-10 loss to Arizona.

A caller to Schiano’s weekly radio show accused Schiano of engaging in “bush league” tactics, via JoeBucsFan.com.

Schiano defended the strategy, which first was introduced by him during a 2012 game against the Giants.  Schiano expressed a desire for people to quit complaining about it.

“When it’s a one-score opportunity, and especially a field goal opportunity and there’s time left to do it, that’s part of our beliefs,” Schiano said.  “And guys can disagree with it, call it, you know, there’s no bush league to it.  You know it’s coming.  And if anybody saw it, Gerald McCoy was shaking his head telling [Arizona], ‘We’re coming.’  So I mean, you know what, run the play.  If there’s time on the clock, run the play. I’d like people to quit complaining, and that’s what we’re going to do, and get ready for it.”

When Schiano says “I’d like people to quit complaining,” chances are he meant it more broadly than people complaining about his hard-charging approach to the NFL’s equivalent of a “gimme” putt.  Indeed, most of Schiano’s problems in Tampa wouldn’t exist if people didn’t complain.

Of course, they wouldn’t be complaining if he gave them nothing to complain about.

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  1. realdealsteel says: Oct 1, 2013 10:46 AM

    I can’t wait until he’s fired at the end of the year. What he did to Freeman shows he’s a classless moron. He doesn’t deserve the privilege to coach in the NFL.

  2. champgiff says: Oct 1, 2013 10:47 AM

    If he wants to hear the complaining stop, maybe he should win some football games. Kind of difficult for your opponent to go into victory formation if they don’t have the lead. This guy is showing himself to be more and more of a toolbag everytime he opens his mouth.

  3. mikemcdorman says: Oct 1, 2013 10:48 AM

    First suckas!

  4. milkmandanimal says: Oct 1, 2013 10:49 AM

    I’m looking forward to the day I no longer complain about Schiano being the coach of the Bucs.

  5. TheDPR says: Oct 1, 2013 10:49 AM

    He’s a jerk but I agree. If there’s time on the clock, you should have to run a legitimate play and the defense should be allowed to defend it.

  6. steelbydesign says: Oct 1, 2013 10:49 AM

    I really don’t understand why everyone gets so upset over this.

    I really want him to strip the ball one week and win a game so everyone shuts up once and for all.

  7. realfootballfan says: Oct 1, 2013 10:49 AM

    Don’t worry, coach. It won’t be much longer before anyone in the NFL is complaining about it ever again.

  8. kenny2neworleans says: Oct 1, 2013 10:49 AM

    Can’t wait for the day when he does this, and the opposing coach goes into shotgun on te next play and runs the score up on him. Let’s not forget, victory formation is also a show of good sportsmanship, not wanting to run the score up.

  9. expertop says: Oct 1, 2013 10:50 AM

    “that’s part of our beliefs” – what a clown this guy is.

  10. toybkshr says: Oct 1, 2013 10:50 AM

    Actually, it is BUSH LEAGUE!
    This guy has def got this team performing way below their talent level.

  11. nj22 says: Oct 1, 2013 10:51 AM

    LOL! Hey Schiano you can make this go away…by winning a F’N Game! Their highlight film from 2013 is hard hits on teams in Victory formation! Impressive…

  12. runmarshawnrun says: Oct 1, 2013 10:51 AM

    I can’t wait to stop hearing about this guy.

  13. liner113 says: Oct 1, 2013 10:52 AM

    I have no problem with it if it is a one-score situation with time left, like in the Arizona game. However, that wasn’t the case when he did it to the Giants. *That* was bush league.

  14. rhamrhoddy says: Oct 1, 2013 10:52 AM

    If they know you will be upset by the question, then expect the question to come from time to time.

  15. wjmoffatt says: Oct 1, 2013 10:53 AM

    You said it in this article, he tell them to do that. Meaning his hand is in the defense and the defense has been playing as well as anyones defense in the NFL. Now the offensive coordinator, his a problem. That is Greg’s fault for hiring him but man that guy stinks

  16. bloodisred says: Oct 1, 2013 10:54 AM

    It’s a punk move.

  17. crazemastercraze says: Oct 1, 2013 10:54 AM

    Dead man walking

  18. youafool says: Oct 1, 2013 10:54 AM

    How about we complain about how you leaked Freeman drug program news? Is that better you overmatched hack? Go back to college where your bush league tactics are considered “innovative”

  19. draftrobot says: Oct 1, 2013 10:54 AM

    Lucky for everyone else, for as much losing as Schiano does, it’s usually with his offense holding the ball last. For losing 13 out of 20 games, he actually hasn’t rushed the victory formation as many times as you would expect.

  20. noring4youstill says: Oct 1, 2013 10:54 AM

    Well best of luck running a victory formation while in the bottom of the south. What a joke. But no the saints were running a bounty program and over here you have the douche but nothing

  21. kevinb73 says: Oct 1, 2013 10:57 AM

    Although I think we need a new coach in Tampa, I agree with Schiano on this issue. Stop whining like a bunch of babies. Obviously this caller has failed to notice this team has a lot bigger problems than attacking the victory formation, like needing a new head coach and winning some games.

    Freeman, Schiano, victory formations; this Buc fan is completely over all this crap.

    Shut up and play some damn football!!

  22. shaggyjeff says: Oct 1, 2013 10:58 AM

    Please fire Schiano , the guy has destroyed the team .

    Petrino + 10

  23. kinggator says: Oct 1, 2013 11:00 AM

    Shi spends a lot of time practicing for the other team being in “victory” formation. Pls just go away already Coach Shi.

  24. dailyminefield says: Oct 1, 2013 11:01 AM

    He’ll be fired soon. Freeman isn’t very good and probably doesn’t deserve to start. Instead of smearing him, just say, “we’re not winning with him, he’s benched”..

  25. james1755 says: Oct 1, 2013 11:01 AM

    I hear he chopped down a cherry tree too when he was a kid. Anything to drive traffic.

  26. floratiotime says: Oct 1, 2013 11:06 AM

    It was a low rent move that he should be ashamed of. People ask because it’s incredibly stupid.

  27. sclobernocker47 says: Oct 1, 2013 11:07 AM

    why should a team give up when there’s a chance to cause a fumble?

    I see no problem…

  28. 6ball says: Oct 1, 2013 11:08 AM

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    I agree with Schiano. Despite the distractions and the mistake fueled 0-4 record, the Bucs are developing a potent defense. They kept Tom Brady and Drew Brees under wraps in back to back games which is quite an accomplishment. Some focus needs to be placed on the positives.

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  29. doctorrustbelt says: Oct 1, 2013 11:08 AM

    Schiano’s record at Rutgers:

    68 wins – 67 losses

    28 wins – 48 losses (conference play)

  30. badphish24 says: Oct 1, 2013 11:09 AM

    Shiano is the worst move the bucs organization has ever made.

  31. gbrim says: Oct 1, 2013 11:11 AM

    Jim Harbaugh is the exception to the rule that college coaches fail in the NFL. Perhaps its because of his many years as an NFL player. Both Schiano and Chip Kelly have quickly proven that their coaching philosophies are more successful in college. Go back and make some college fans happy they have a good college coach.

    P.S. At least Schiano doesn’t have that ‘deer in the headlights’ look already showing up on Kelly’s face..

  32. fwippel says: Oct 1, 2013 11:18 AM

    What goes around comes around. If Schiano continues this stuff, his own offense is going to have to deal with it and we’ll see how he likes it then.

    Of course, you have to be leading in games in order to be in the victory formation.

  33. sweetnlow44 says: Oct 1, 2013 11:18 AM

    Then don’t be offended when other teams don’t go into victory formation and instead run up the score on your pathetic defense. What more does this guy have to do to get fired? Quit putting off the inevitable and get rid of the guy already.

  34. joetoronto says: Oct 1, 2013 11:20 AM

    No worries, coach. Soon, you’ll be back coaching kids again anyway.

  35. prosourcetalk says: Oct 1, 2013 11:21 AM

    I feel for you Tampa fans.

  36. bennyb82 says: Oct 1, 2013 11:24 AM

    It is so easy not to like this guy.

  37. mrbullgator says: Oct 1, 2013 11:28 AM

    That caller was ME! and I stand by it! Not only did he do it last year but he did it again last week! It’s an embarrassment to the buccaneer community and team. He can sit there and say his players like doing it but I believe they do it or else…

  38. commonsensedude says: Oct 1, 2013 11:34 AM

    I feel sorry for the kids at the high school where Schiano will be coaching next year.

  39. craigkintexas says: Oct 1, 2013 11:35 AM

    Psychotic: having or relating to a very serious mental illness that makes you act strangely or believe things that are not true

  40. dwoofer says: Oct 1, 2013 11:41 AM

    It was obvious at the end of the game that Patrick Peterson could have returned his INT for a touchdown, but he sat down with the ball so as not to rub it in. Then the Bucs try to sack Palmer.

    Such class !

  41. pftfan says: Oct 1, 2013 11:41 AM

    Jets fans probably want to know what it’s like to be the NFL’s new circus?

  42. stevenwilliams2013 says: Oct 1, 2013 11:42 AM

    Bill Cowher to the rescue!!!!!

  43. sbaltimore says: Oct 1, 2013 11:42 AM

    Man. This guy makes one yearn for the days of John McKay. At least he coined one of the most memorable lines of all time:

    Reporter: “Coach, what do you think about the execution of the offense?”

    McKay: “I’m all for it”.

    CLASSIC!!!

  44. granadafan says: Oct 1, 2013 11:42 AM

    Teams should protect themselves and play to the end. However, there’s such thing as sportsmanship, something hopefully all of us were taught at a young age. You don’t kick a man when he’s on the ground. If he’s going to continue to blow up people when the’ve pretty much given up, then I hope for the day when an opposing coach humiliates Schiano by running up the score, going for it on 4th, pasing for TDs when up by 30, etc.

  45. smilesaustin says: Oct 1, 2013 11:43 AM

    I don’t like Schiano and I think he is classless. That tact will never be successful, and it just comes off like he’s being a sore loser.

    However, I do wish the “victory formation” could be banned unless the team is up by more than one score. If the differential is 8 points or less, the winning team should have to run actual plays until the game is over. I don’t care if you’re handing it off to your fullback who’s just burying the ball in his gut and making sure he doesn’t fumble, you should be required to at least attempt to advance the ball.

  46. granadafan says: Oct 1, 2013 11:45 AM

    “mrbullgator says:
    Oct 1, 2013 11:28 AM
    That caller was ME! and I stand by it! Not only did he do it last year but he did it again last week! It’s an embarrassment to the buccaneer community and team. ”
    ===============================================

    Bravo, mrbullgator, bravo! That was awesome.

  47. rdrs68 says: Oct 1, 2013 11:49 AM

    This clown is in a race with Lane Kiffen to see who will be the first hired next season. Of course any hiring will not be in the NFL.

  48. nunpuncher says: Oct 1, 2013 11:50 AM

    You don’t make the defense look like clowns when it’s the offense that should be the ones scoring more points. I hope the day is coming really soon where the players walk into the locker room with a not pinned to each that says “Dear Buccaneer Men,”.

  49. buc8 says: Oct 1, 2013 11:51 AM

    If the wussy opponents can’t play a whole game then they should forfeit. If there is time on the clock, keep playing.

    Oh, and in the Giants game it was a one score game.

  50. mrbullgator says: Oct 1, 2013 11:56 AM

    kevinb73 says:
    Oct 1, 2013 10:57 AM
    Although I think we need a new coach in Tampa, I agree with Schiano on this issue. Stop whining like a bunch of babies. Obviously this caller has failed to notice this team has a lot bigger problems than attacking the victory formation, like needing a new head coach and winning some games.

    Freeman, Schiano, victory formations; this Buc fan is completely over all this crap.

    Shut up and play some damn football!!

    Actually if you listen to my whole call the victory formation was a small part of what I talked about. I said I like what he’s done on defense but the offense and half time adjusts are non-existent and that I hope he turns it around and wins the remaining 12 games! All I want is a winning product and I see some promise in Coach but he’s gotta change some things and in a hurry!

  51. awdlmd says: Oct 1, 2013 11:57 AM

    He’s a tool but if your team is bad enough to only beat the Bucs by less than a score they deserve to get smacked a couple times.

  52. celly84 says: Oct 1, 2013 11:59 AM

    iner113 says: Oct 1, 2013 10:52 AM

    I have no problem with it if it is a one-score situation with time left, like in the Arizona game. However, that wasn’t the case when he did it to the Giants. *That* was bush league.
    ————————————-

    Maybe you should have no problem with doing some research, too. that giants game was DEFINITELY a one-score game. The real issue was Hakeem Nicks and Victor Cruz both going for 175+ yards and Eli throwing for 500+.

    We had the lead, the defense blew it. Free came back and gave us the lead again. Defense blew it once more. Free tries to drive us down for ANOTHER lead, throws INT to Clark. Crash victory formation.

  53. celly84 says: Oct 1, 2013 11:59 AM

    *Final score 41-34

  54. cup1981 says: Oct 1, 2013 12:03 PM

    Schiano sucks as a coach, yes, but I have zero issue with defenders blowing up the “Victory” formation. If the clock still has time on it, the defense needs to keep trying its hardest, especially in a close game. I wish more teams would just stop conceding victory when the opposing team goes to a knee.

  55. canedaddy says: Oct 1, 2013 12:06 PM

    Meanwhile, the Ravens get a 15-yard penalty when Suggs tackles a QB who’s messing around to kill time before he takes a knee. The league geniuses need to spell out what’s allowed and what’s not allowed for defenses against “victory” formations.

  56. coltzfan166 says: Oct 1, 2013 12:09 PM

    I don’t have a problem with this if it’s a one score game.

    But still, Schiano has to go. The players clearly don’t want him. Who cares if he’s only had one and a half seasons in Tampa? This was an awful hire from the start.

  57. bigpimp69 says: Oct 1, 2013 12:10 PM

    NFL lights are too bright for this guy. Go back to NJ high school football and leave this level of the game to real men.

  58. cuda1234 says: Oct 1, 2013 12:10 PM

    Shiano is starting to look like the worst thing thats happened to the Bucs since Jon Gruden destroyed the winning organization built by Tony Dungy.

    Remember when Dungy was there and the Bucs went to the playoffs every year?

  59. koolaidcircusbeast says: Oct 1, 2013 12:13 PM

    Honestly, this is a breath of fresh air in the new wussification of the NFL. Why not play til 0:00 if the game is within reach of a botched snap? Odds are odds.

    Baseball thinks it’s bush league to bunt in the bottom of 9th if a pitcher is nearing a no-hitter. Yet, if a man is on second with no outs due to a walk and stolen base, a manager would be an absolute fool not to bunt the player to third with a bottom of order batter at the plate to have a sac fly opportunity.

    That in itself is the equivalent.

    Schiano is still a tool, though.

  60. seahawksbmx says: Oct 1, 2013 12:15 PM

    I like the Bucs, with the exception of their imbecile coach. He’s basically begging teams to run up the score on them to avoid going into Victory formation in a close game.
    No problem, Coach. Got your takeout order for a 50 Burger, which you can pick up in Seattle on Nov. 3.

  61. buddysguys says: Oct 1, 2013 12:15 PM

    Just fire him already

  62. buddysguys says: Oct 1, 2013 12:17 PM

    also has this worked once for him yet? I dont think it has…he loosk like a crybaby Harbaugh when he does this.

  63. cospgsmadman says: Oct 1, 2013 12:17 PM

    There are sure lot teams running the victory formation against Schiano teams

  64. patriotinvasion says: Oct 1, 2013 12:19 PM

    How about the O line gets low and blocks a defense trying to make a play on a legitimize snap in a football game.

    This is like the opposite of running up the score. People complaining about a defense playing defense for 60 minutes.

  65. harrisonhits2 says: Oct 1, 2013 12:21 PM

    If its a one score game I have no problem with this. A fumble by the offense recovered and run back for a TD sends the game to OT or wins it for Schiano’s team.

    If its a 2 score lead then there’s no point to it. All he would do would be risk injury to his own and the other team’s players for nothing.

  66. packersarethebest says: Oct 1, 2013 12:23 PM

    This guy is way in over his head.

  67. wlouden77 says: Oct 1, 2013 12:24 PM

    I want to see coach Schano’s reaction if the Bucs go into victory formation and a team rushes them….

  68. jg725 says: Oct 1, 2013 12:25 PM

    Seems like a lot of talk about a situation that only comes up a couple of times a year…….

  69. kinggator says: Oct 1, 2013 12:34 PM

    Replacement Coaches –

    1. Cowher
    2. Jay Gruden
    3. Lovie Smith
    4. Vic Fangio
    5. Mike Zimmer
    6. John Gruden
    7. The Ghost of John McKay
    8. Corpse of Vince Lombardi
    9. Sam Wyche
    10. A Magic 8 Ball
    11. 1000th fan to walk through Gate 4 on any Sunday
    12. A Ham Sandwich
    13. Jimmy Johnson
    14. Any Jimmy Johnson
    15. A Vote of “Present”
    16. ………..

  70. dowhatifeellike says: Oct 1, 2013 12:34 PM

    I am not a Schiano supporter at all, but if you don’t want your victory formation blown up, then don’t use victory formation. Bring out the front 9 from the field goal unit, throw another guy on the end, and protect the QB for the 0.8 seconds he needs to kneel.

  71. oldsombrero says: Oct 1, 2013 12:34 PM

    So let me get this straight. A team doesn’t allow you to take a knee (which is the offenses way of avoiding a big mistake) and end the game. Instead they elect to keep playing to win, by playing hard till the game clock expires… You people are incredible. There is no justification for letting a team take a knee when you are down one score or less. If there is a chance to tie or win the game with a score, why the hell would you let a team sit on the ball and end the game? The pussification of the league is trickling into the fan base.

  72. bucsfan5000 says: Oct 1, 2013 12:36 PM

    Toes on the unemployment line

  73. thestrategyexpert says: Oct 1, 2013 12:41 PM

    Or maybe the NFL could finally eliminate the kneel down play as an option. I personally hate the rule that a team can kneel down to activate the clock. To me a team shouldn’t be allowed to make it that easy and they should be required to attempt to work, that is they want the clock to be running. It’s no good to have this lame Schiano strategy, and it’s no good to see every game end with a pointless boring play. There’s better ways to do things to make football more interesting and more respectable.

  74. ialwayswantedtobeabanker says: Oct 1, 2013 12:44 PM

    As the LEGENDARY Steeler LB Greg Lloyd once said, “No, I don’t ‘effing’ feel sorry for ya. Just line up and play football!”

    Ball out between the lines to the last whistle/final gun.

  75. crewdawg says: Oct 1, 2013 12:46 PM

    “Uh..Hello!? You play to win the game” somebody is going to lose a game on a botched victory formation and no rational people are going to rag on this dude again. Unfortunately, he’ll probably be fired at that point but, still.

  76. brutusmandingo says: Oct 1, 2013 12:56 PM

    You mean what Freeman did to himself

  77. celly84 says: Oct 1, 2013 1:04 PM

    kinggator says: Oct 1, 2013 12:34 PM

    Replacement Coaches –

    1. Cowher
    2. Jay Gruden
    3. Lovie Smith
    4. Vic Fangio
    5. Mike Zimmer
    6. John Gruden
    7. The Ghost of John McKay
    8. Corpse of Vince Lombardi
    9. Sam Wyche
    10. A Magic 8 Ball
    11. 1000th fan to walk through Gate 4 on any Sunday
    12. A Ham Sandwich
    13. Jimmy Johnson
    14. Any Jimmy Johnson
    15. A Vote of “Present”
    16. ………..
    ——————————-
    1. God no pleease.
    2. seems reasonable
    3. rather have him as a DC
    4. i could go for it, but i’d rather have Greg Roman
    5. like that choice too. but i think it’s time for an offensive HC
    6. normally i would say “yes” only so i don’t have to hear him on MNF anymore…..but i can’t endorse this one
    7. given the record, looks like he’s already here (RIP)
    8. seems as if his videos might be a better coaching tool that our current staff
    9. see 7…minus the RIP
    10. “outlook not so good”
    11. guess i need to buy my plane ticket and stadium pass
    12. no pork please
    13. as much as i hate the eagles…..RIP to one of the greats
    14. hate the cowboys too, but i’m sure he could turn this around too
    15. “PRESENT”
    16. best option yet

  78. brutusmandingo says: Oct 1, 2013 1:05 PM

    I’m a bucs fan and I have no issue with what happened To I’m overrated Joshua T Freeman. he played poor not just This season last year ill give him the first four games when the d couldn’t hold the lead but than after being 6-4 he started to play like rookie making mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake. Schiano shouldn’t have kept him and moved on. Freeman is know to take drugs and party all over Tampa just as McDintons. So let’s not act like the kid was solely focused on being a good qb. Remember the Thriller Cover shoot? and it’s Funny he has adhd all of sudden when Talib and Wright got busted for Adderal hmm Yup schiano has blame for his hand in a crappy offense and game plan but Josh has done it to himself.

  79. chiadam says: Oct 1, 2013 1:05 PM

    He’ll get it when Josh Freeman gets injured kneeling out a win.

    Oh wait..

  80. crcol85541 says: Oct 1, 2013 1:07 PM

    The only resolution is to throw a touchdown pass from the Victory formation like Buddy Ryan did in the distant past against Dallas, I believe. Let both teams play until the end of the game………….

  81. qbcoach9 says: Oct 1, 2013 1:10 PM

    Eventually, he’ll be fired, all he’s doing now is working his way out of a second opportunity to head coach in the NFL. No owner will sign off on the train wreck in the locker room he comes with.

  82. watermelon1 says: Oct 1, 2013 1:11 PM

    Still can’t believe Terrell Suggs got flagged for tackling EJ Manuel when he was standing upright like a dumb-ass instead of taking a knee like a professional.

    nfl is horrible.

  83. stlluna7 says: Oct 1, 2013 1:17 PM

    The good thing is he effectively fired Freeman. This is not personal just the notion who is no good as a quarterback in the NFL.

    As far of this victory formation, who cares? I am sure Steve Dueming is probably leading the charge against the coach and I have no use for Steve anyway because he is just a big blowhard.

    As a person who worked in the Tampa media, I will say this. He is no ‘Ted Webb’.

  84. vavikingfan says: Oct 1, 2013 1:18 PM

    kingator–You left Brad Childress off your list.

  85. jerseygirl57 says: Oct 1, 2013 1:19 PM

    When the coaches with the Super Bowl rings on their finger don’t do it and you are sitting at 0-4, maybe you should stop complainin’ about others complaining and learn something. And as others have said, if one of those teams threw down the field and scored a touchdown, you’d probably be compalining about them running up the score on your team.

  86. wolfmanpatriot says: Oct 1, 2013 1:37 PM

    celly84 says:
    Oct 1, 2013 11:59 AM
    *Final score 41-34
    ————-
    Celly, you are forgetting about the 2 pt conversion, which would tie the game, go into ot, so, yes. One possession, score, game.

  87. stlluna7 says: Oct 1, 2013 1:41 PM

    Thanks Steve.. for the support. This should pique the Big Dogg. LOL

  88. gettingpwned says: Oct 1, 2013 1:42 PM

    I think we all know how this story ends

  89. stlluna7 says: Oct 1, 2013 1:48 PM

    Yes and sadly, this has been a common theme in the BUCs organization.

  90. FinFan68 says: Oct 1, 2013 1:50 PM

    It is not bush league to play hard and not concede until the game is over. It is bush league to try to injure the opponent but that is NOT what the Bucs have done. It’s a football play that this defense is actually trying to get the ball. The fact that the offense typically just goes through the motions expecting zero resistance is what makes the scenario look bad to some. If you line up and snap the ball, you better expect to actually play football until the whistle blows.

    There is a reason they don’t stop games before time expires. Anything can happen. Brady fumbled the exchange in the closing of the Sunday night game and the Falcons had another chance to score. It happens, and when it does, this Bucs team will be recovering the ball while the only player on the offense with any clue to the problem will be the QB. There is no problem if the offense treats it as a regular play. If they choose not to, that’s on them–not Schiano’s Bucs

  91. punksinplay says: Oct 1, 2013 1:54 PM

    I’m still trying to figure what made Schiano so attractive to Tampa Bay…

  92. buc8 says: Oct 1, 2013 1:54 PM

    34 + 7 = 41 last time I checked.

  93. ColtsWinColtsWin!! says: Oct 1, 2013 1:58 PM

    Well at least he’s not worried about them complaining about the losing…Toes on the line roach, toes on the line….Good Luck in college next year.

  94. pawnjockey1 says: Oct 1, 2013 1:58 PM

    Teams shouldn’t complain, they should just have the QB fake a kneeldown and throw deep for an easy touchdown.

  95. sactogary says: Oct 1, 2013 1:59 PM

    If the offense is in position to run out the clock, and you’re not going to let the defense keep trying, then it’s stupid to continue. Just have the refs call the game, and cancel the last minute or two.

  96. mantastic54 says: Oct 1, 2013 2:05 PM

    Not sure why teams don’t just come out in a fg formation and have the holder take a knee. You can’t line anyone up over the center so the snap should be clean

  97. topgun1019 says: Oct 1, 2013 2:08 PM

    The sad thing for Bucs fans is that Schiano is going to have plenty of opportunities this year to “blow up” other teams’ victory formations. Like another 12, or so.

  98. trollaikman8 says: Oct 1, 2013 2:24 PM

    He’ll be facing victory formations every week from here on out so better get used to it.

  99. eatitfanboy says: Oct 1, 2013 2:38 PM

    kenny2neworleans says:
    Oct 1, 2013 10:49 AM
    Let’s not forget, victory formation is also a show of good sportsmanship, not wanting to run the score up.

    No, its not. Its to prevent the defense from having any possibility of forcing a turnover. If you don’t want to run up the score, there are plenty of plays you could still run.

    Not saying I agree or disagree with what Schiano is doing, but let’s not pretend the victory formation has anything to do with sportsmanship.

  100. celly84 says: Oct 1, 2013 2:47 PM

    wolfmanpatriot says: Oct 1, 2013 1:37 PM

    celly84 says:
    Oct 1, 2013 11:59 AM
    *Final score 41-34
    ————-
    Celly, you are forgetting about the 2 pt conversion, which would tie the game, go into ot, so, yes. One possession, score, game.
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    not sure what you’re implying here. I was giving the actual final score of the game to show that we were definitely still within one score when we crashed the victory formation.

  101. ravensfan8780 says: Oct 1, 2013 2:48 PM

    You had 58 minutes to win the game, for those saying the kneel down should be outlawed why?? The team won there comes a point in the game when you realize it’s over like in basketball if you’re down 10 with 10 seconds left on the clock you don’t foul again you’re not winning. Games are won and lost in the 1st quarter not in the final minute. We all know right now the nfl is a qb driven league so if he injures Drew Brees or Matt Ryan doing this stuff you know the league will be pissed.

  102. GrossmanDaSexCannon says: Oct 1, 2013 2:52 PM

    steelbydesign says: Oct 1, 2013 10:49 AM

    I really don’t understand why everyone gets so upset over this.

    I really want him to strip the ball one week and win a game so everyone shuts up once and for all.
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    Ball strip? He’s trying to cause a fumble. By any means possible. Trust me when I say stripping the ball is the least efficient way to do that in the victory formation.

    It’s a really stupid tactic. But it’s equally stupid to complain. You know what you should do?! Line up a WR on the outside in motion at the last second, snap the ball quick and take advantage of the NO SECONDARY. It’s like a 90% touchdown. I’ve never coached in my life and I thought of that. Maybe I should start. God knows I wouldn’t just stand there and watch it while crying though. I can promise you that.

  103. simplesimon1 says: Oct 1, 2013 2:54 PM

    I really hope that they try this in Detroit this year and Bush or CJ break off from the formation and hit an 80 yarder…and I hope they personally take the ball to Schiano for their celebration…..That would be the celebration of the decade!!!

  104. uglyglazers says: Oct 1, 2013 2:54 PM

    The only reason Schiano is still employed is because he has the same ethics and personality as Malcolm Glazer’s special needs kids who are running this team.

  105. ajlynema says: Oct 1, 2013 2:56 PM

    crewdawg says: Oct 1, 2013 12:46 PM

    “Uh..Hello!? You play to win the game” somebody is going to lose a game on a botched victory formation and no rational people are going to rag on this dude again. Unfortunately, he’ll probably be fired at that point but, still.
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    What happens first, him actually causing a fumble (not from a botched snap) and winning the game or his team diving at the knees of the oline and ending a career. You have a group of people that don’t like Suh for diving at knees yet this is just playing the game.

  106. evilglazers666 says: Oct 1, 2013 3:00 PM

    cuda1234 says:
    Oct 1, 2013 12:10 PM
    Shiano is starting to look like the worst thing thats happened to the Bucs since Jon Gruden destroyed the winning organization built by Tony Dungy.
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    The Glazers have always been the ones destroying this team. All they do is force out every good player ever. They are control freaks.

  107. redbirdsrising says: Oct 1, 2013 4:00 PM

    Cardinals fan here…. No problem with attacking a “Victory” formation. I think the NFL needs to adopt the Arena rule that the clock doesn’t run unless a play gets positive yardage inside 2 minutes. I don’t like that a team can bleed out two minutes of game time.

  108. stlluna7 says: Oct 1, 2013 4:26 PM

    I love the STL Cardinals baseball organization just to make that clear to Redbirdrising. I agree with you also about the attack on the Formation in question. It should be required to snap the ball and hand it off. They are paid to play not drop to one knee.

  109. hatesycophants says: Oct 1, 2013 5:15 PM

    This guy is way too early in his tenure as an NFL Head Coach to be making end-of-the-road statements like this.

    You can always tell when it’s over for a HC. Denny Green, Herm Edwards, Kiffin, Ditka, Mora 1 and Mora 2… I believe Kubiak and Coughlin made theirs after getting beat on Sunday.

    Turn out the lights, the party’s over.

  110. stlluna7 says: Oct 1, 2013 5:31 PM

    I agree with IhateS – There is just too little too soon to speculate about and the list of coaches on the hot seat is always long.

  111. Herb Deluxe says: Oct 1, 2013 5:41 PM

    Would love to see a team BURN Tampa on a trick play out of the victory formation. Maybe a lateral to the flat for a big gainer or a play action fake deep downfield. If that’s how you wanna play it, Greg, come widdit.

  112. sddartman says: Oct 1, 2013 9:08 PM

    When his defensive linemen start getting their knees taken out by the offensive linemen (leagal within the tackle box) he’ll change his mind about it and that is what will happen. Offensive line coaches will instruct their players to go at the knees of the defensive linemen and “take them out” if he doesn’t stop the cheap tactic. Also, once the defensive players start getting hurt they’ll stop the practice themselves and that will lead to this dumb ass getting fired sooner because he’ll loose the team altogether.

  113. bobsnygiants says: Oct 1, 2013 10:42 PM

    it’s time for him to go

  114. brucetrimble says: Oct 1, 2013 11:41 PM

    The move is bush league and as I heard several players on NFL network say, disrespectful to fellow teams and is potentially dangerous. Greg should focus on coaching the fundamentals and not gimmick plays. Also if he can’t take criticism from players, coaches and fans, he should find another job.

  115. ost2020 says: Oct 2, 2013 8:44 AM

    Someone needs to call a fake kneel down play and send a WR deep and throw a TD pass against this play.

  116. stlluna7 says: Oct 2, 2013 11:34 AM

    I find it comical that a Giants fan would be critical of anyone. In fact, isn’t it about time for Giants fans to call for their coaches’ crown?

  117. tigersfandan says: Oct 3, 2013 1:01 PM

    rdrs68 says: Oct 1, 2013 11:49 AM

    This clown is in a race with Lane Kiffen to see who will be the first hired next season. Of course any hiring will not be in the NFL.
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    Who’s going to hire Lane Kiffin? Schiano was actually successful in college. Kiffin has never really accomplished anything as a head coach.

  118. onlywanttruth says: Oct 5, 2013 5:42 AM

    There is a guy on Youtube called TheRealBillReal and he has a very interesting take on Mr. Greg Schiano and what he believes is going on with the Buccaneers. It’s hilarious and thought provoking.

  119. pigskinaholic says: Oct 5, 2013 10:39 AM

    redbirdsrising says: Oct 1, 2013 4:00 PM

    Cardinals fan here…. No problem with attacking a “Victory” formation. I think the NFL needs to adopt the Arena rule that the clock doesn’t run unless a play gets positive yardage inside 2 minutes. I don’t like that a team can bleed out two minutes of game time.
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    That’s actually a really good idea. I don’t watch arena ball, so I’d never heard of that.

  120. r8dernation says: Oct 5, 2013 10:59 AM

    This guy needs to watch Any Given Sunday, and really listen to the scene where Pacino tells Foxx that the game is bigger than him.

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