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Blame goes well beyond Schaub for Sunday’s loss

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Yes, I’m not the chairman of the Matt Schaub fan club.  That said, the blame for Sunday’s Seahawk shibacle spreads well beyond the starting quarterback.

His interception to Richard Sherman was indeed an ugly throw after an even uglier decision.  Still, the Seahawks never should have been in position to tie the game with one score in the closing minutes of regulation.

As explained during Wednesday’s PFT Live, plenty of other cooks had a spoon in this ultimately rancid vat of six-bean chili.

How about running back Arian Foster?  With the Texans leading 20-3 and driving early in the third quarter, Foster dropped a short pass from Schaub that would have been/should have been a first down in Seattle territory — and would have fueled/could have fueled another score that would have pushed the lead to 23-3 or 27-3.

Later in the quarter, running back Ben Tate failed to secure the ball, had it punched out from behind, and gave possession to Seattle deep in Houston’s end of the field.  Though the defense stiffened, the Seahawks managed to trim the margin from 17 points to 14 with a field goal.

Speaking of the defense, it did the unspeakable to start the fourth quarter.  With Seattle pinned against its goal line to start the final 15 minutes and still down 15, Wade Phillips’ vaunted 3-4 surrendered 99 yards over the next 13 plays.  The end result?  A one-score game.

It was back-and-forth from that point forward, until Schaub’s blunder(s).  But it simply shouldn’t have come down to Schaub making (or not making) the throw that was returned for a touchdown.

And while it’s on Schaub for throwing the ball, Richard Sherman’s comments make it clear that there was an error in coaching.  The Texans allowed themselves to become too predictable, permitting Sherman to pounce.

Regardless, it’s not all Schaub’s fault.  Even though everyone in Houston not part of the Texans organization seems to think it is.

At least his first chance to put last Sunday behind him will come on the road, without fans booing him inside the building, roasting marshmallows over his smoldering jersey outside it, or drowning their post-game sorrows with a pick-six burger.

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26 Responses to “Blame goes well beyond Schaub for Sunday’s loss”
  1. swaggyy says: Oct 3, 2013 8:54 AM

    No one is giving Seattle credit for that at all. It was 3rd down and Houston had to pass. Seattle saw that short yardage play on film that Houston likes to use a lot and recognized it and Dan Quinn called a great play. It was one they practiced all week for that play specifically. Blitz Chancellor, houston didnt pick it up and forced Schaub into that throw. Sherman knew it was coming and made a jump on it. Give Seattle some flippin credit. Pure brilliance.

  2. andreweac says: Oct 3, 2013 8:56 AM

    Schaub apologist. That was an inexplicably terrible decision by Schaub.

  3. osiris33 says: Oct 3, 2013 9:02 AM

    Or maybe the Seahawks just woke up in the 2nd half, like they always do in the 2nd halfs of these 10AM games, and shut the Texans down, pressured them into mistakes and beat them down physically. You know, like they do every week.

    Nah, that can’t be it. It can’t just be that the Seahawks are good…

  4. txsteve says: Oct 3, 2013 9:17 AM

    How could you forget the penalty by Kareem Jackson?

    (or the horse collar penalty)

  5. joetoronto says: Oct 3, 2013 9:19 AM

    “Blame goes well beyond Schaub for Sunday’s loss”

    Yes, Schaub gets half and Kubiak get the other half.

    No need to look any further.

  6. serkeljerks says: Oct 3, 2013 9:30 AM

    This is exactly right. It was clear that either very poor adjustments either had been made or there was an absence of adjustments from the offense in the second half. All they had to do was score at least 1-2 field goals! But they couldn’t muster anything.

    However, the offensive call to run a bootleg pass was a clear sign of desperation; simply playing to not lose versus playing to win. And therein is the deepest issue with the Texans. But the fact that an absolutely atrocious offensive play was first called by Kubiak but was then followed up with an equally offensive decision by Schaub to throw a lame duck pass to a suffocated receiver by the NFL’s best DB is appalling.

    The key now to beat the Texans is simply knock Cushing out of the game. That whole team just let go once Cush was knocked out. That’s an ominous sign for a team.

  7. toybkshr says: Oct 3, 2013 9:37 AM

    The old cliche applies. QB’s get too much credit when they win, and too much blame when they lose.

  8. 8to80texansblog says: Oct 3, 2013 9:45 AM

    I’ve been saying that all week.

    Other than that pick, (the other pick was a fluke ball that was tipped 3 times) Schaub played outstanding and lit up Richard Sherman and that vaunted Seattle D.

    There were 100 little things that if ANY one of them went our way, we win the game. But c’est la vie….

    Seattle fans shift this week and become huge Texans fans as we go to SF. If we win here, we’re 3-2 and will be favored in 5 of the next 6, which would put us at 8-3 going into the New England game. Not a bad place to be…. All of our goals are still in front of us.

  9. texasdyack says: Oct 3, 2013 9:45 AM

    texans fans are well aware of the coaching staffs failures. predictable play calling, terrible special teams, and a defense that cant adjust when things arent working. yeah, we know.

  10. vmannj says: Oct 3, 2013 9:49 AM

    Schaub, I feel your pain. QBs in Texas get blamed for everything. Get used to it. Sincerely, Tony Romo

  11. houston1193 says: Oct 3, 2013 9:50 AM

    Houston’s linebacker depth behind Cushing is downright terrible. It showed all of last year after his injury and now during the Seattle game. Wade Phillips wanted to draft a LB, but no such move happened. I hope LB is the first thing Houston addresses in the draft next season, because so little depth is gonna cost Houston even more games later on.

  12. trollhammer20 says: Oct 3, 2013 10:02 AM

    Say Schaub throws an incomplete pass.

    There’s 2:40 to play, Seattle still has two timeouts, and has the ball with a chance to score the tying touchdown. True, Houston had stopped them most of the day, but Seattle had
    completed their only TD drive of the day not long before that.

    Not saying that it’s guaranteed Wilson would have led the ‘Hawks down the field to tie the game…but neither can anyone say that there was zero chance of it happening. The game would still have been in play.

    And it still was in play ever after the pick. Houston had the ball three more times, once in regulation and twice in OT, with chances to seal it, and could not get it done. Their offense did not just fail on one play, it failed to score the entire second half and overtime.

    It was a horrible error by both coaches and QB, but to say the entire game was lost on that one single play is a gross overstatement.

  13. raymondtx says: Oct 3, 2013 10:07 AM

    Why give Seattle credit for guessing right? Teams guess right all game long. People are acting like Sherman and the Seahawks “figured out” the Texans. You call plays, sometimes they dont work. The Texans “guessed right” and blew up Wilson, too. I like how Sherman keeps patting himself on the back for the one play, after AJ went off on him. No way he is in the class of Revis or Patrick Peterson. And yes, I am a damn texan fan.

  14. slick50ks says: Oct 3, 2013 10:25 AM

    Kubiak is the problem, not the solution.

    He’s ridden on the coattails of Shanny for way too long now. And they both rode the coattails of Terrell Davis.

  15. nathpz says: Oct 3, 2013 11:49 AM

    I’ve watched enough of this team to feel confident in saying that the problem is the coaching. Gary Kubiak is the most conservative, unimaginative offensive coach or head coach I’ve ever seen. He plays like he doesn’t try to win; like he thinks if the team just wins yards and time of possession that everything else will magically work out. He has one gameplan and if that gameplan doesn’t work, he’s like a deer caught in the headlights.

  16. serkeljerks says: Oct 3, 2013 1:12 PM

    osiris33 says:
    Oct 3, 2013 9:02 AM
    Or maybe the Seahawks just woke up in the 2nd half, like they always do in the 2nd halfs of these 10AM games, and shut the Texans down, pressured them into mistakes and beat them down physically. You know, like they do every week.

    Nah, that can’t be it. It can’t just be that the Seahawks are good…

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    No, they didn’t.

    The loss of Cushing and the inexplicable disappearance of the offense with half a quarter to play is what happened. Seattle dodged a bullet.

  17. dualprime says: Oct 3, 2013 1:43 PM

    With all due respect to Sherman, any competent CB would have picked that. Seattle didn’t force anything. Schaub made a terrible decision. Hawks won by 3 friggin points IN OVERTIME. Not exactly a blow out.

  18. dualprime says: Oct 3, 2013 1:47 PM

    raymondtx says:
    Oct 3, 2013 10:07 AM
    Why give Seattle credit for guessing right? Teams guess right all game long. People are acting like Sherman and the Seahawks “figured out” the Texans. You call plays, sometimes they don’t work. The Texans “guessed right” and blew up Wilson, too. I like how Sherman keeps patting himself on the back for the one play, after AJ went off on him. No way he is in the class of Revis or Patrick Peterson. And yes, I am a damn texan fan.
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    Good post and on point! Sherman has a Dion Sanders mouth with Kareem Jackson ability. (sorry Kareem)

  19. mi6agent says: Oct 3, 2013 3:34 PM

    Because Schaub was that bad or the Shehawks that good? It was Schaub’s present to Sherman (delivered right on to his hands) Most corner back could have make that catch.

  20. htown1035 says: Oct 3, 2013 4:17 PM

    swaggyy says:
    Oct 3, 2013 8:54 AM
    No one is giving Seattle credit for that at all. It was 3rd down and Houston had to pass. Seattle saw that short yardage play on film that Houston likes to use a lot and recognized it and Dan Quinn called a great play. It was one they practiced all week for that play specifically. Blitz Chancellor, houston didnt pick it up and forced Schaub into that throw. Sherman knew it was coming and made a jump on it. Give Seattle some flippin credit. Pure brilliance.
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    First off, they didn’t HAVE to pass. They had been running it all day long – all they had to do was call a run play and even if they didn’t get the first down you punt it and hold the offense in check.

    Next, everyone knew that play was coming, that’s why it was a bad playcall. But Schaub still has to know to fall down and take the sack on that play, not throw offbalance across the field. Anybody could have made that play.

  21. hawktawker says: Oct 3, 2013 10:27 PM

    htown1035 says:
    Oct 3, 2013 4:17 PM
    First off, they didn’t HAVE to pass. They had been running it all day long – all they had to do was call a run play and even if they didn’t get the first down you punt it and hold the offense in check.

    Umm, 98 yards for a touchdown! Hold the offense in check?! The Seahawks figured it out at halftime, held the Texans to 0 points in the second half and got their offense going. Texans are a strong team but on Sunday…the Seahawks were as strong in the 60 minute regulation, and stronger in the extra period…PERIOD!

  22. htown1035 says: Oct 4, 2013 11:32 AM

    hawktawker says:
    Oct 3, 2013 10:27 PM

    Umm, 98 yards for a touchdown! Hold the offense in check?! The Seahawks figured it out at halftime, held the Texans to 0 points in the second half and got their offense going. Texans are a strong team but on Sunday…the Seahawks were as strong in the 60 minute regulation, and stronger in the extra period…PERIOD!
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    You’re obviously a myopic Seahawks fan who didn’t even watch the game.

    The 98 yard drive was in the 4TH QUARTER, ironically the same time that Cushing went out with the concussion. It took them almost 9 minutes to drive down and score. The Texans went three and out, and then on their next possession the Seahawks were intercepted by Joseph. With only 2:51 left in the GAME, Schaub threw that crappy pass. If he had run the ball and gotten the first down, game over. If they had punted, Seattle would have to march another 98 yards in less than 2 minutes just to TIE the game. In fact, in overtime the reason the Seahawks won the game was due to a stupid unnecessary roughness penalty on Jackson that put them in field goal range, which you could argue was the real play that cost the Texans that game.

    Spin it all you want, but the Seahawks were lucky to come out of there with the win. They didn’t turn the game around at halftime, they didn’t show their resiliency, they just got lucky breaks and took advantage of them. PERIOD.

  23. hawktawker says: Oct 5, 2013 3:24 PM

    htown1035 says:
    Oct 4, 2013 11:32 AM
    The 98 yard drive was in the 4TH QUARTER, ironically the same time that Cushing went out with the concussion. It took them almost 9 minutes to drive down and score. The Texans went three and out, and then on their next possession the Seahawks were intercepted by Joseph. With only 2:51 left in the GAME, Schaub threw that crappy pass. If he had run the ball and gotten the first down, game over. If they had punted, Seattle would have to march another 98 yards in less than 2 minutes just to TIE the game. In fact, in overtime the reason the Seahawks won the game was due to a stupid unnecessary roughness penalty on Jackson that put them in field goal range, which you could argue was the real play that cost the Texans that game.
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    If the game of football was all about “ifs” you could claim your team should win every game! Guess why Cushing left with a concussion!? Because the hard playing Seahawks gave it to him. The reality of this great game is by staying with it for 60 minutes any team can win. The Seahawks won…get over it!

  24. htown1035 says: Oct 5, 2013 3:33 PM

    hawktawker says:Oct 5, 2013 3:24 PM

    _________________________________
    If the game of football was all about “ifs” you could claim your team should win every game! Guess why Cushing left with a concussion!? Because the hard playing Seahawks gave it to him. The reality of this great game is by staying with it for 60 minutes any team can win. The Seahawks won…get over it!
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    Trust me, Texans fans are over it, but Seahawk fans are trying every way they can to somehow show they earned that win – when they know they didn’t and had it handed to them on a silver platter. The reality of this game is that the Seahawks got lucky and escaped with a win that was given to them by the Texans.

    Oh, and you don’t hear Texans fans say that the reason Michael Bennett went out was because of the “hard playing Texans did it to him”, do you?

  25. hawktawker says: Oct 6, 2013 1:38 PM

    Hey man, I appreciate your passion but you’re not a very smart cookie are you?! Let me guess; you live in Texas right? That explains a lot!!! If it makes you feel any better…I’m rooting for the Texans this week!

  26. hawktawker says: Oct 6, 2013 4:34 PM

    The Hawks Colts game is a perfect example of what I’m talking about. 2 teams played for 60 minutes and the stronger team won! No excuses, no tears, just happy to have watched good football!!

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