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Freeman, Bucs get fresh start

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In the end, Josh Freeman got what he wanted — and the Buccaneers got what they needed.

The Bucs have released Freeman, who was benched eight days ago in favor of rookie Mike Glennon.  Since then, news of disagreements and dysfunction emerged on a daily basis (or more frequently), with both sides seemingly agitating the other side toward an inevitable eruption.

After cold-calling every other 31 teams about a possible trade (which put the Buccaneers at a distinct position of weakness), the Bucs decided to cut the cord and move on.

It was a smart move.  Even if someone was interested in trading for Freeman, it has become clear that he’s only going where he wants to go.  It’s unclear where he now wants to go, and it’s unclear if any team he wants also wants him.

The distractions created in Tampa necessarily will follow him, making it something less than a clean start.  Under the circumstances, it will be impossible for him to serve as the backup to a starter who currently is on shaky ground.  Instead, he’ll have to join a team where he’d clearly be the backup to a franchise quarterback (e.g., the Packers) or a team where Freeman would instantly become the starter.

Whether another team will want him will depend in part on that team’s assessment of Freeman as a member of the 2009 draft pool, following his time at Kansas State.  Also, any team that has faced Freeman will know the challenges he presents (or doesn’t) from a game-planning standpoint.  The manner in which it all fell apart in Tampa also will be useful information before making a decision.

It’s a lot to process during a football season, especially since inserting a new quarterback into a new offense isn’t the easiest thing to do in October.

In the end, Freeman may end up waiting for the same thing the Bucs preferred to wait for prior to the trade deadline:  A serious injury to a starter on a contending team.  Absent that kind of circumstance, it may be difficult for anyone to justify potentially disrupting their current season by kicking tires on a guy who at least has some responsibility for the mess he leaves behind in Tampa.

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  1. doctorrustbelt says: Oct 3, 2013 3:05 PM

    68- wins – 67 losses at Rutgers

  2. therealbillybuffalo says: Oct 3, 2013 3:08 PM

    Chip Kelly better stop answering the USC questions and better start figuring out a way to get this guy. Freeman is a franchise QB and Vick is a franchise….piece of a crap.

    Sign him Chip, sign him.

  3. wearethesteelers says: Oct 3, 2013 3:08 PM

    Bucs don’t get a fresh start till Shiano is out.

  4. usmutts says: Oct 3, 2013 3:09 PM

    This guy threw for, I think, 27 or 28 TD’s one season. That ain’t chopped liver. Some team with solid coaching and no nonsense veterans might just make a player out of this guy.

  5. seatownballers says: Oct 3, 2013 3:09 PM

    Drama

  6. jayniner says: Oct 3, 2013 3:09 PM

    Freeman now has 6.25 million reasons to kick his feet up and take one helluva vacation, all thanks to the Bucs…

  7. 2jivecrew says: Oct 3, 2013 3:10 PM

    Even if someone was interested in trading for Freeman, it has become clear that he’s only going where he wants to go.

    ——————————

    He never said, nor impied, anything of the sort. Produce a quote to back that up.

  8. deucedropper says: Oct 3, 2013 3:11 PM

    Freeman is young enough and has shown enough positive things on the field (although, not lately) that some team will take a chance on him.

  9. scoops1 says: Oct 3, 2013 3:13 PM

    Hit the Road Josh…..

  10. mathomp3 says: Oct 3, 2013 3:13 PM

    Jacksonville?

  11. nfl4days says: Oct 3, 2013 3:14 PM

    I would love for freeman to backup Drew Brees. Hes young and talented, and sitting behind drew for some years will do nothing but help him.

  12. blacknole08 says: Oct 3, 2013 3:14 PM

    Freeman did not pan out for the Bucs because of Schiano, not because he couldnt play in this league.

    Fire this guy. He is ruining what could have been a playoff team this year.

  13. katientony says: Oct 3, 2013 3:15 PM

    Go to Jacksonville Freeman! #freemanisfree

  14. thestrategyexpert says: Oct 3, 2013 3:15 PM

    Well if I was the Lions I would love to offer up Shaun Hill to the Bucs and see if there are other ways to take advantage of them. Then just in case Stafford gets hurt they Lions can use Freeman to beat the Bucs in Week 12!

  15. wryly1 says: Oct 3, 2013 3:17 PM

    So Josh Freeman secretly aspired to be JaMarcus Russell. Who knew?

  16. clssylssy says: Oct 3, 2013 3:17 PM

    This entire soap opera has been out-of-hand and demanding of intervention by the league, however, it seems that when the occasions arises and it’s entirely appropriate and necessary for Goodell to step in, he is nowhere to be found. The Bucs may think they are getting a fresh start but I have a feeling this isn’t over yet, nor should it be.

  17. katientony says: Oct 3, 2013 3:18 PM

    Sorry therealbillybuffalo, Freeman is no Vick. #freemanisfree

  18. justintuckrule says: Oct 3, 2013 3:18 PM

    Romo is always a walking injury waiting to happen. I see Dallas signing him.

  19. bucs13 says: Oct 3, 2013 3:18 PM

    Please fire Schiano before he does any more damage to this franchise. Please.

    Now I’m beginning to fondly recall Raheem Morris. At least Raheem managed not to chase off any franchise players.

  20. peytonsneck18 says: Oct 3, 2013 3:18 PM

    Poor revis, goes from one drama filled team to another, good thing hes making huge bucks

  21. tigersfandan says: Oct 3, 2013 3:23 PM

    doctorrustbelt says: Oct 3, 2013 3:05 PM

    68- wins – 67 losses at Rutgers
    ______________________________________

    49-28 in his last six years at Rutgers. Yes, he’s been bad at Tampa Bay, but you keep repeating his record at Rutgers in a very misleading way.

  22. paychrisjohnson28 says: Oct 3, 2013 3:27 PM

    The irony to me is that Former Bucs Quarterback Josh Freeman missed the team picture this year, it’s like it was his fate that he wasn’t going to be on the team any way, like the movie Final Destination, his destiny was not to be on the Bucs team so he wasn’t meant to be in the 2013 Tampa Bay Buccaneers team picture…! Doo do doo do twilight zone….and now he’s not on the team…I would be careful where he goes next because wierd things are happening…

  23. watchfullhose says: Oct 3, 2013 3:29 PM

    I have to believe that Jacksonville, Oakland or Minnesota could use this guy.

  24. dwntwnbadboy19 says: Oct 3, 2013 3:29 PM

    Top 5 QBs In the Nfl

    1-Mike Glennon
    2-Peyton Manning
    3-Tom Brady
    4-Drew Brees
    5-Aaron Rodgers

    In that order!

  25. leeeroooyjeeenkiiins says: Oct 3, 2013 3:32 PM

    >Leak info about what a horrible person Freeman supposedly is every 2 hours

    >Wonder why no one called us back on our trade offers

    Schiano logic, ladies and gents.

  26. raysfan1 says: Oct 3, 2013 3:33 PM

    @drrustbelt–
    Yes, Schiano had a .504 record at Rutgers. However, the 3 coaches who preceded him combined for a 69-114-5 record (.374), and his immediate predecessor went 11-44 (.200). I’m not saying Schiano is right or wrong in this case, but you citing his won-lost record without context is quite misleading if you want to portray his ability as a college coach.

  27. calebo94 says: Oct 3, 2013 3:34 PM

    Do Not Sign Him (Green Bay Packers)

    Coach Mike McCarthy

  28. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Oct 3, 2013 3:34 PM

    To me, the air won’t be fresh around One Buc until Coach Gregory is gone.

  29. dwntwnbadboy19 says: Oct 3, 2013 3:35 PM

    Top 5 coaches in NFL

    1-Greg Schiano
    2-Pete Carrol
    3-Sean Peyton
    4-Jim Harbough
    5-Jim Schwartz

  30. bk9876 says: Oct 3, 2013 3:37 PM

    The BUCS need to clean house…. GM and Schiano. Until then, the fan base will not believe anything coming from One Buc.

  31. jpat2424 says: Oct 3, 2013 3:37 PM

    Brat

  32. jthomascronin says: Oct 3, 2013 3:38 PM

    Fresh start? They still employ Schiano, right?

  33. climbinghigherexpectingmore says: Oct 3, 2013 3:39 PM

    OK, let me get this straight. Tebow throws 45% and no team wants the drama he brings. But Freeman proved a drama machine throws 45% and someone is gonna want him. ~shaking head~

  34. felcus says: Oct 3, 2013 3:39 PM

    RAIIIDAAAAAAAAAAAZZZ!

  35. nunpuncher says: Oct 3, 2013 3:40 PM

    Greg Schiano personally just made The Buccaneers eat 6.44 million dollars and hasn’t won a game this season.

  36. broncobrewer says: Oct 3, 2013 3:42 PM

    Did we go a whole week talking about a third string QB not named Tebow? Are we going to have Freeman taking all of Tebow’s jobs now.

  37. fievel03 says: Oct 3, 2013 3:43 PM

    Bucs are just happy that their Team Photos are finally correct.

  38. soulbrotherno3 says: Oct 3, 2013 3:44 PM

    As a Saints fan, I’m really glad the Bucs cut the talented quarterback and kept the bonehead coach!!!! Long live Schiano in Tampa!!!!!

  39. tombstone7 says: Oct 3, 2013 3:45 PM

    Freeman was the fall guy for Schiano….the coach wants to sell Hope…..hope they fire me, I had made Freeman the problem and the new QB is the hope….I hope they lose from now on..

  40. lance19 says: Oct 3, 2013 3:45 PM

    This guy threw for, I think, 27 or 28 TD’s one season.
    _______________________________

    Yes, 27 one time…but he’s a lifetime 78.8 passer rating kind of guy…that’s the more relevant stat…

  41. crownofthehelmet says: Oct 3, 2013 3:46 PM

    JF, Ozzie Newsome is on line 1.

  42. onebucplace says: Oct 3, 2013 3:52 PM

    I can’t wait for Schiano to get fired, what a piece of trash.

  43. hanifmiller says: Oct 3, 2013 3:54 PM

    So let me get this straight. Instead of trading Freeman for picks before the season started or while his value was higher, Tampa decides to start a smear campaign lessening his value and their leverage. Now they have released him with nothing to show for it? Brilliant.

  44. jlo7693 says: Oct 3, 2013 3:54 PM

    Steelers!

  45. carranofa says: Oct 3, 2013 3:55 PM

    We don’t need him in Green Bay. We don’t want him in Green Bay. Stay away. If you’re not a hard worker and a team player what use would any team have for him? Goodbye and good riddance Mr distraction.

  46. bigblu73 says: Oct 3, 2013 4:01 PM

    Josh Freeman, we’ve got the Minny Vikes on line 1, Tenny Tites on line 2, and the AZ Cards are on ur Voice Mail!

  47. prosportswashington says: Oct 3, 2013 4:01 PM

    If there isn’t an opening as a starting QB, he could really do well to sit and learn from a Rodgers, Brees or a Brady and maybe one day start

  48. kinggator says: Oct 3, 2013 4:02 PM

    1 down, 1 to go… who didn’t see this coming; stated everyone

  49. randy2054 says: Oct 3, 2013 4:04 PM

    . Tampa Bay could that be the next destination for Vincent Young? You now want more talented than Josh Freeman ever was. As for Josh Freeman I agree the Raiders be good choice. I would want to condemn any athlete to future in Jacksonville because you might end up having to get a passport for London England in a couple years. Greg Schiano is not even good enough a coach to coach Pop Warner football until this team has the smarts to get rid of that idiot savant they will be doormats in this league for a long time to come! :-)a guy I would like to see take over this team would be Marty Schottenheimer

  50. 6ball says: Oct 3, 2013 4:04 PM

    .

    What exactly is the difference between Bill Belichick and Greg Schiano? If you say victories, I’ll remind you that Belichick was 5-11 his first year with the Patriots, but Bob Kraft wisely stayed with him.

    Belichick also went through a Freeman – like scenario with WR Terry Glenn.

    Let’s see how quickly another NFL team signs Freeman and installs him as their starter.

    .

  51. 49erstim says: Oct 3, 2013 4:05 PM

    Peyton Mannings successor in Denver?

  52. 49erstim says: Oct 3, 2013 4:11 PM

    Greg Schiano makes Hue Jackson look like Vince Lombardi. What an absolutely brilliant tactician. He drove down Freeman’s value and then, only then, did he try to move him. The modern day equivalent of the “Rope a Dope”.

  53. bigredgoog says: Oct 3, 2013 4:11 PM

    Mike, you know the rules of the NFL. What are the answers to:

    1) Will Bucs get a compensatory pick?
    2) If someone signs Josh will the salary they pay reduce what the Bucs will have to pay?

  54. ydousuk says: Oct 3, 2013 4:11 PM

    thestrategyexpert says: Oct 3, 2013 3:15 PM

    Well if I was the Lions I would love to offer up Shaun Hill to the Bucs and see if there are other ways to take advantage of them. Then just in case Stafford gets hurt they Lions can use Freeman to beat the Bucs in Week 12!
    —————————————————————

    I am not a Lions fan, but I thought you should know, Mr. Strategyexpert that the Bucs have already released Freeman, so it is a little late for a trade.

    Also, If I was the Lions, I am not sure I would make that trade……………..just saying.

  55. jbaxt says: Oct 3, 2013 4:13 PM

    Go to Oakland, make their 10 million dollar guy a 4th stringer. Idiots. I’m surprised Oakland didn’t trade 2 1sts for the guy.

  56. ColtsWinColtsWin!! says: Oct 3, 2013 4:14 PM

    The same guy that predicted the Colts will beat the 49ers and Shehawks has this to say! Josh Freeman is young, he is 25. He has the ability to be a great QB when he matures and gets into a system with a strong support structure. Maybe this is the wake up call he needs. Kids nowadays though its hard to say. I think someone will pick him up and if he is willing to mature and grow he will be a fantastic QB somewhere. As for Schiano, I think he is done, he will be gone by week 7 or 8. I think the owners will pay off the rest of his salary as well just to get him out and Mark Dominic will be close behind. However, if Napolean Dynamite (and I don’t see this happening) somehow wins 2 of the next three games, Schiano will be validated and I will never post again. So I will continue to post as I am a pure genius!

  57. thestrategyexpert says: Oct 3, 2013 4:14 PM

    ydousuk:

    I’m talking about trading Shaun Hill to them and signing Freeman to replace Hill.

  58. shuttaman1990 says: Oct 3, 2013 4:18 PM

    Jets should sign him, a upgrade over those bums over there.
    Raiders stay away from him, we got TP2 the future!

  59. ColtsWinColtsWin!! says: Oct 3, 2013 4:18 PM

    6ball says:
    Oct 3, 2013 4:04 PM

    victories, I’ll remind you that Belichick was 5-11 his first year with the Patriots, but Bob Kraft wisely stayed with him.

    Belichick also went through a Freeman – like scenario with WR Terry Glenn.

    Let’s see how quickly another NFL team signs Freeman and installs him as their starter.

    I say:
    Hey welcome to PFT Coach Schiano, let me point out a few of your errors,
    1. Schiano will be 0 and 16 if he continues for all of his second year.
    2. There is a huge difference netween QB and Wide Reciever
    so,,
    Discount Bellichek will be without a job soon because Discount Bellichek is not Bill, and Glennon is not the next Tom Brady.

  60. panchi2131 says: Oct 3, 2013 4:20 PM

    guess mangini knew better whom not to draft as QB

    first he traded with Jets to get multiple picks for sanchez ,then he trades pick to bucks for freeman again for additional pick .

    too bad he didnt knew how to use those traded picks or else he would have a belicheck.

  61. jazz11001 says: Oct 3, 2013 4:23 PM

    Bet he has those stolen Mcdonalds chicken wings!

  62. drude64 says: Oct 3, 2013 4:23 PM

    I see Freeman in Minnesota backing up starter Matt Cassell.

  63. jwil007 says: Oct 3, 2013 4:23 PM

    Josh,

    Call Mike Brown tell him you would like to come to Cincy with a defense and offensive weapons so that when Andy plays another game like he did up in Cleveland you can put him on the bench and start launching 60 yard bombs to AJ Green….Dont look at the Jags…Look at a team with talent and a defense with offensive coaches 2 TE sets a back out of the backfield that is fast and elusive..a good offensive line….Good staff and if Gruden messes up you have Hue Jackson in waiting and he knows QB’s…. Come Freeman come to the Nati..Call Mike and Marv and say “lets talk” Good luck to ya with wherever you go but choose a team with talent and a decent defense…

  64. jdubkc says: Oct 3, 2013 4:23 PM

    I hear San Fran needs a QB…

  65. soulbrotherno3 says: Oct 3, 2013 4:24 PM

    Tampa Bay Bucs……wasting quarterback talent since 1976.

    Former Bucs quarterbacks who were happy to get out of Tampa:

    Steve Young – Won Super Bowl
    Doug Williams – Won Super Bowl
    Trent Dilfer – Won Super Bowl
    Josh Freeman – ??????

  66. razzlejag says: Oct 3, 2013 4:29 PM

    Tampa Bay is ripe for Tebow (Tim) to march in, become a Buc and save the franchise while Freeman goes to Jacksonville to study under Blaine Gabbert.

  67. bucsducksipa says: Oct 3, 2013 4:31 PM

    I’ll agree that Freeman “at least has some responsibility for the mess he leaves behind in Tampa.” but the odor emanating from One Buc Place smells strangely like Denmark. This organization is cursed with the some malignancy in the way it treats players. One would hope that after the way they did Vincent Edward “Bo” Jackson that it would never happen again but it’s hasn’t been a generation since that debacle and you’d be hard pressed to find two instances where a franchise did someone as dirty as Bo and Josh got from the Buccaneers. Schiano must be concussed, he’ll never be trusted by the majority of players again. My Buc’s are a farm team for the Patriots now. I feel like I need to be decontaminated.

  68. mogogo1 says: Oct 3, 2013 4:34 PM

    Now the only question is how many weeks before Schiano starts firing coordinators and blaming the front office for drafting Glennon when he really wanted somebody else? The guy’s a tool and nothing is ever his fault.

  69. goldrush36 says: Oct 3, 2013 4:46 PM

    Next headline I hope to read.. 49ers sign Freeman, cut McCoy

  70. sactogary says: Oct 3, 2013 4:50 PM

    doctorrustbelt says: Oct 3, 2013 3:05 PM

    68- wins – 67 losses at Rutgers
    —————————————————-
    Surprising that it didn’t work out better, being paired with a QB who had 14 wins — 18 losses at Kansas State.

  71. valhallarising says: Oct 3, 2013 4:50 PM

    climbinghigherexpectingmore says: Oct 3, 2013 3:39 PM

    “OK, let me get this straight. Tebow throws 45% and no team wants the drama he brings. But Freeman proved a drama machine throws 45% and someone is gonna want him. ~shaking head~”

    There are still people trying to bring Tebow back? Freeman completed 45% of his passes this season but is at around a 58% completion percentage for his career. Tebow is (finished) at about a 48% completion percentage all while attempting about 1,600 less passes than Freeman. Plus Freeman in a down year still throws more TDs than Tebow has thrown in his entire career. I don’t think Freeman is a franchise QB but he is DEFINITELY better than Tebow. We have all seen how Tebow attracts “fans” but it all boils down to the fact he is NOT an NFL quality QB, therefore, an NFL team cannot keep him on the roster. If a player is good enough, the NFL has shown that it will let that talented player do or act pretty much however they want. Bottom line, if Tebow were good, no team would care about the “drama” he brings.

  72. 49erstim says: Oct 3, 2013 5:17 PM

    @jazz11001…….at the very least that’s the comment of the day. Thank you… :-D

  73. jr4real says: Oct 3, 2013 5:25 PM

    never thought Freeman was as good as advertised but i like him better now that he is out from that fool of a coach. Shiano should go.

  74. truths4all says: Oct 3, 2013 5:31 PM

    Freeman had one decent year: 20+ TDs and 20+ Ints.
    Since then, he has proven his normal self and normal produciton of 2 Ints to every 1 TD.

    When you add in his lowly completion rate, you’ve got a Mark Sanchez or Geno Smith disaster.

    Keep in mind that not even the Jags, Philly, Raiders, or Steelers were interested. Not even one little bit. Maybe the CFL or Arena Football might be interested, but not the NFL.

  75. selmonfan63 says: Oct 3, 2013 5:33 PM

    therealbillybuffalo | Oct 3, 2013, 3:08 PM EDT
    Chip Kelly better stop answering the USC questions and better start figuring out a way to get this guy. Freeman is a franchise QB and Vick is a franchise….piece of a crap.

    Sign him Chip, sign him.

    Clearly you have never seen Freeman run a hurry up offense. Good luck with that.

  76. nawlinsmitty says: Oct 3, 2013 5:39 PM

    Freeman never had a decent quarterback or head coach. Give him some good coaching and he may turn into something.

  77. bigzant82 says: Oct 3, 2013 5:41 PM

    cleveland please sign him

  78. nawlinsmitty says: Oct 3, 2013 5:43 PM

    Freeman never had a decent quarterback or head coach. Get him some decent coaching and he might turn into something.

  79. thehuddleisondeathrow says: Oct 3, 2013 6:12 PM

    Fire Schiano! Fire Dominik! Let new coach & GM select next QB. Otherwise we will be in this same situation again after next year…

  80. yourmomsnewfriend says: Oct 3, 2013 6:34 PM

    I could see the Raiders trying to pick this mess up. Not only because they’ve historically proven to be a poor judge of character at the QB position, but also because they ACTUALLY need him. They have a fragile, inexperienced starter in Pryor, who only just barely beat out Flynn for that starting job. Flynn is SO atrocious that he’s been relegated to the last position in depth. They potentially need a QB with actual starting time, more than even the Browns or Vikes. Scary, isn’t it?

  81. immafubared says: Oct 3, 2013 7:10 PM

    Word out of Tampa, Freeman and his agent are popping champaign corks and laughing their arses off at how they made Tampa look bad from their leaks………………….

  82. immafubared says: Oct 3, 2013 7:12 PM

    I got a hundred that says Freeman only picks a team with a black coach unless a starting job is available now.

  83. hatesycophants says: Oct 3, 2013 7:58 PM

    onebuckplace is spot-on with regard to a certain segment of the Bucs fanbase.

    How’d you like to go through your entire existence thinking like that?

  84. bucforever says: Oct 3, 2013 8:42 PM

    Really glad it’s all over…….. I mean the Bucs season.

  85. ryan782 says: Oct 3, 2013 9:00 PM

    Freeman will surely be a starter again somewhere in the league by the end of this season. Too much talent and upside to slip out of the league at just 25. Good luck Josh!

  86. saints4life57 says: Oct 3, 2013 9:27 PM

    Maby the Saints should pick him up for some info on TB? Ok Josh what were the plays you ran in TB! Well first I drop back and usually i’d throw the ball to one of your DB’s or S! It was a good play and seemed to work well! HAHA! This dude better plan on riding the bench because that’s the only place I can see him going!

  87. keifer1751 says: Oct 4, 2013 9:53 AM

    The Bucs get a fresh start? Not until they dump that dipwad Schiano and his love buddy, Dominik. This could/should have been a playoff year for the Bucs. They are packed with talent. The people with no talent are still there. Dump Schiano and Dominik before the next drama starts.

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