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Kubiak could be inching toward the hot seat

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Texans coach Gary Kubiak remains committed to his starting quarterback.  And if  Captain Kubiak continues on this path, he could be going down with the Schaub.

Back in June 2012, Kubiak opted to accept only a two-year extension, putting him under contract for three years, through 2014.

“It could have been four years but Gary has assured me that with the level of success he’s going to have that he’s going to be worth a lot more money if at three years instead of four and so I had to agree with him,” owner Bob McNair said at the time.

Now, Kubiak’s decision to swing for the fences could have the door swinging into his backside, since it’ll be cheaper to replace Kubiak with only a one-year buyout instead of two.

McNair’s alternatives to Kubiak would be plentiful.  Kubiak’s current alternatives to Matt Schaub are limited.  T.J. Yates led the team to its first playoff win in franchise history, but he barely held off Case Keenum for the starting job.

Keenum presents an intriguing option.  The former University of Houston standout has a swagger that Schaub currently doesn’t.  And the Texans play in the same state as another team with an undrafted quarterback who has done fairly well.

Regardless of whether it’s Yates or Keenum, there’s really no one else who can turn this mess around in 2013.

Except for the quarterback who created it.  If Kubiak bets on Schaub to do it, Kubiak could be going all in with his job.

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  1. htown1035 says: Oct 7, 2013 1:48 PM

    The issues with Schaub have definitely a lot to do with Kubiak and how he approaches the game. He calls all the plays and is not good at managing the game from the sideline, he tends to be a run-first playcaller in a league that’s clearly a passing league, and he runs a west coast offense that does not let defenses honor the downfield throws, which makes DB’s cheat on the short throws and cause interceptions. The entire offense is predicated on the run game, and even though their offensive line isn’t horrible it’s certainly not as good as a couple of years ago, which causes a ripple-down effect.

    Kubiak is a cause of great angst with Texans fans – they like him because he helped them improve from being a laughing stock to a division winner and a playoff team, but they dislike him because he tends to be conservative, play not to lose, and have a hard time adjusting.

    The talent that’s on this team is comparable to the Niners and all of the top teams in the league, so they have absolutely NO business losing the way they did to these good teams like New England and San Francisco and Seattle.

  2. thepftpoet says: Oct 7, 2013 1:49 PM

    My left pinky toe could coach better than Kubiak, and I don’t even have a foot

  3. thestrategyexpert says: Oct 7, 2013 1:49 PM

    Should have traded Schaub a long time ago. Some teams never figure out how to get to the top when it’s so easy just to cling to the sides. You don’t have to do any real work to climb. The Texans need some better direction and vision.

  4. thesmedman says: Oct 7, 2013 1:56 PM

    He’ll be back doing Shanahanigans next year.

  5. nfloracle says: Oct 7, 2013 1:56 PM

    And so many had such high expectations for the Texans this year.

    It’s hard to watch a franchise’s year start swirling toward the drain. As a Panthers fan, believe me, I know just how hard it is…

  6. zoxitic says: Oct 7, 2013 1:57 PM

    Bulls on decay.

  7. v2the4 says: Oct 7, 2013 2:00 PM

    totally agree htown1035…this team resembles the 1992-1994 Oilers…all pros and talent all over the field, hall of fame talent, No heart whatsoever

    Kubiak says every week to the Houston media “I put Schaub in a bad position, I’ve been doing this for a long time, I can fix him”.

    Kubiak cant do diddly squat…I just happened to youtube various Texans games back to 2008 and the main thing in common…Matt Schaub and his sideline interceptions…he doesnt have the arm strength to throw the ball from the middle of the field to the sideline….I know darn well Kubiak, the offensive staff, the defenders, the whole doggone team knows this in practice, yet Kubiak continues to look at all of those Mike Shanahan plays on that stupid 20×30 playsheet thinking Steve Young or John Elway or Jake Plummer or Jay Cutler, all of whom have/had strong arms, are his QB

    I think Kubs and Schaub are at the crossroads…its probably the end of the line for both….Kubiaks job will be decided in the bye week two weeks from now, when the Texans face St Louis and at Kansas City…..if Texans win both games, they are 4-3 with a home game coming up against Indy…he might survive until the end of the season…

    however, if they lose either of those games, Kubiak, a homegrown talent from St Pius HS..an Aggie from Texas A&M and a 12 yr nfl vet and 20 plus years as a coach, can say goodnight to his little friend…he will be gone..

    Schaub is toast come June 2nd, 2014…Texans can get out of contract by paying him $3M and he counts as $7M against cap…..with 2014 being a deep QB class, they better go get Bridgewater or Marriota, or Miller, or one of those sec guys

    stay tuned….I predict Schaub will throw another pick 6 in one of the next two games.

  8. zoxitic says: Oct 7, 2013 2:07 PM

    Its so cute how you cow fans call your coach Kubs.

  9. whitemike55 says: Oct 7, 2013 2:18 PM

    I’ve been a Schaub supporter since day 1. He will never put the team on his shoulders and win the game, but many times he didn’t make the dumb mistakes to lose the game. All that has changed in the last 4 weeks.

    Schaub is GIVING these teams 7,14,21 pts each week. No team in the NFL can spot other teams that many points, much less the good teams like Ravens, Seattle, 49ers.

    There is no going back, but I’d have to start Yates on Sunday vs. Rams. If he does poorly or goes down, Case Keenum would be in. Keenum has that “IT” factor… Not good size, arm strenth etc. but he was the best QB during pre-season.

    Keenum passed the eye test.

    Should be a verrrrrry interesting Kubiak press conference this afternoon.

    GO TEXANS!

  10. wearethesteelers says: Oct 7, 2013 2:20 PM

    Still better than John Harbaugh, Marvin Lewis, and Rob Chudzinski.

  11. therealhardt says: Oct 7, 2013 2:25 PM

    Kubiak, like his mentor shanahan, is a mediocre coach at best, which means he is best pro coach in Texas by a wide margin….

  12. bigredgoog says: Oct 7, 2013 2:34 PM

    Give Keenum a shot. He has shown to be very accurate, cool-headed and mobile. He has led inferior teams to come-from-behind victories in college and exudes confidence. Threw something like 50 touchdowns vs. 3 interceptions in the last year in college and 5,000 yards. Yeah, it was college but hitting receivers in stride is a talent lacking in a lot of NFL quarterbacks.

    He has more upside potential than T.J. Yates who showed possibilities early but disappointed when given more time to see him in action.

    If Keenum were to be a solid or better QB, the money saved by then cutting or trading Schaub could be used to retain the quality Texan players who contracts will be up in the next few years. The 49ers and Seahawks are benefitting from not having 25% of their payroll’s tied up in the QB position. The Texans might have that possibility in their grasp if they were willing to test it.

    It is as if the Texans are hoping they can find some way to make their 7 million a year solution work instead of investigating a 500k solution that could hardly be worse and has the potential and youth to be an exciting fix to the dilemma.

    It is the Moneyball solution applied to the NFL.

  13. realfootballfan says: Oct 7, 2013 2:41 PM

    Way past due. Texans need to make a clean break and get a new coach, QB, and need to scrap that awful bootleg passing and zone run blocking scheme.

  14. eastofmissball says: Oct 7, 2013 2:51 PM

    Gary. You can’t stay loyal to everyone in your past. Your past relationship w/ the Broncos organization has come to an end. I gotta say your the play caller, but why is Rick Denison your OC? Yes good friend & good LB in his day, but that’s not going to save your rear end. Denison is a good guy, but where is his history as an OC? You have not looked outside the box in the past w/ your staff. You need to cut ties. Wade Phillips good hire. Texans GM, ego and all; need to right this ship. McNair needs to grow a pair and mix it up and not follow Rick Smith’s advise on everything, so it seems. If your going to do it in the locker room. you dam better make sure you have talent around you in your meeting rooms.

  15. kuehner131 says: Oct 7, 2013 2:55 PM

    I hear Matt Flynn is available.

  16. jayjordan84 says: Oct 7, 2013 3:03 PM

    When it’s all said and done Kubiak should have been gone years ago. While he has had progress not everyone is meant to be a HC he is more fitted in being a OC.

  17. harrisonhits2 says: Oct 7, 2013 3:08 PM

    I sense a good housecleaning coming for the Texans after the year is over. Especially if they don’t make the playoffs.

  18. htown1035 says: Oct 7, 2013 3:13 PM

    kuehner131 says:
    Oct 7, 2013 2:55 PM
    I hear Matt Flynn is available.
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    Gawd no, he’s even worse than Freeman AND Schaub.

  19. txtuff says: Oct 7, 2013 3:16 PM

    Last week after the Seahawks game I went on the Texans message boards and wrote.

    It is clear the Texans have enough talent to go against anybody in the NFL except in two areas:
    1. QB
    2. HC

    Kubiak should go down with Schaub!

  20. dcapettini says: Oct 7, 2013 3:24 PM

    Shanahan can’t be blamed for Kubiak. Kubiak is Dan Reeves all over again; he plays the percentages even when you are 3 points down with 2 minutes to go in a one and done game. That stuff works pretty good in the regular season but sucks in the playoffs. His other Reeves trait is to stick with some players way too long. Schaub makes bad decisions at critical times. He gets spooked too easy. The fact that he was in danger of setting a new record for pick sixes doomed him to set it. He can’t help himself.

    Alex Smith would have been perfect for Houston. They have so much talent on both sides of the ball. An unflappable game manager would really have thrived there. But no, Kubiak has to manage the game, call the plays, take all the responsibility and shelter his QB from criticism. It was only when Denver got a gunner in Shanahan that Elway was given the latitude to win games. Reeves had to do things like they did them in Dallas and Kubiak is the same.

  21. thekingdave says: Oct 7, 2013 3:29 PM

    @whitemike55

    I can respect you as a true fan because I’ve seen you posting here for the last few years (who burns a jersey in the parking lot?), but how does Keenum have IT or pass the eye test in pre-season? He went up against backups fighting for the bottom spots on 53 man rosters. It’s a great story he went to UH and all that and come close to going undefeated with Sumlin, but there’s a reason the guy wasn’t drafted. Sadly, Schaub’s our best option the rest of the season. I still don’t get why we could not take a flier on Josh Freeman. It’s not near as crazy as it sounded.

  22. zoxitic says: Oct 7, 2013 3:33 PM

    karma doesnt like dirty teams.

  23. pjrhc says: Oct 7, 2013 3:36 PM

    htown1035, that’s a very insightful observation, man!

  24. serkeljerks says: Oct 7, 2013 3:52 PM

    wearethesteelers says:
    Oct 7, 2013 2:20 PM
    Still better than John Harbaugh, Marvin Lewis, and Rob Chudzinski.

    —————-

    Says the guy whose team is in competition with the Giants and Jaguars as the worst in the entire league. Sometimes you just need to know your place and shut up. Everyone of those teams you mentioned……..you’re looking waaaay up to!

  25. jswheeler says: Oct 7, 2013 4:04 PM

    Fire Denison and promote Karl Dorrell to OC. The guy can’t do any worse. It would be a nice refreshing offense for a change.

  26. ndrick731 says: Oct 7, 2013 4:06 PM

    Inching ? I’d say he’s careening at about 120 miles an hour towards it

  27. jakethesnake123 says: Oct 7, 2013 4:11 PM

    Texans have many problems from QB to HC to special teams. Just remember this is the team that cut Holiday (6 return Td’s in 17 games) and Jacoby Jones who also has a couple and starts at wide receiver for the Super Bowl champs. Whether it is Kubiak or Rick Smith making these decisions one of them or both needs to held accountable.

  28. kscogg says: Oct 7, 2013 4:28 PM

    Look, this team has shown the signs of a loser but have managed to win.

    How can they justify their receiving corps? Kevin Walter was the best #2 they could get? They finally get a kid in there with some field stretching ability but rarely use him. Andre Johnson is a very nice player but he needs some help.

    Kubiak calls the same plays game in/game out. Naked bootleg to a TE in the flat and in the past it has worked like a charm, but teams have adjusted and Kubiak hasn’t. The same stretch running play half a dozen times throughout the game…..where is the creativity?

    I work with a guy who follows the Texans closely and we debate Schaub all the time. His main point about Schaub, and I agree, is that he shows no emotion. There is zero fire in him. His body language is awful. He looks defeated before they ever run a play. He was an upgrade over Carr, absolutely but now its clear that he doesn’t have “IT”.

  29. txtuff says: Oct 7, 2013 4:37 PM

    thekingdave says:
    Oct 7, 2013 3:29 PM
    @whitemike55

    I can respect you as a true fan because I’ve seen you posting here for the last few years (who burns a jersey in the parking lot?), but how does Keenum have IT or pass the eye test in pre-season? He went up against backups fighting for the bottom spots on 53 man rosters. It’s a great story he went to UH and all that and come close to going undefeated with Sumlin, but there’s a reason the guy wasn’t drafted. Sadly, Schaub’s our best option the rest of the season. I still don’t get why we could not take a flier on Josh Freeman. It’s not near as crazy as it sounded.

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    I agree we can’t say Keenum has the “IT” factor, haven’t seen enough of him. But the last 12 games with Schaub as the QB the Texans are 4 – 8!! You really think he gives them the best chance to win?

  30. annes22 says: Oct 7, 2013 4:49 PM

    I thought the Texans thought they were going to be good this season? Schaub sucks, he should have been sat down before this. They certainly got a lesson last night.

  31. thekingdave says: Oct 7, 2013 8:38 PM

    Sadly, if he can fix the turnover bug, yes. There’s a reason Yates was drafted in the 5th round and Keenum was undrafted. Even with Schaub’s declining arm strength, he’s superior to both in that area. Plus, Yates and Keenum just aren’t seasoned enough. Did you watch Yates play last night? If people complain about Kubiak being conservative with Schaub at the helm, just watch what happens if Yates of Keenum takes over. Yates missed two reads on a third down before having to throw it away, and was then comically sacked on 4 th down. The future franchise QB of the Texans is not on the roster right now. Period.

  32. htown1035 says: Oct 7, 2013 9:49 PM

    kscogg says:Oct 7, 2013 4:28 PM

    I work with a guy who follows the Texans closely and we debate Schaub all the time. His main point about Schaub, and I agree, is that he shows no emotion. There is zero fire in him. His body language is awful. He looks defeated before they ever run a play. He was an upgrade over Carr, absolutely but now its clear that he doesn’t have “IT”.
    ——————————————
    I liked your post except for this part – yes his body language is bad, especially when things go wrong, but not showing emotion doesn’t necessarily equate to a bad QB. Flacco looks like he’s catatonic while playing but he’s doing just fine.

  33. richdaddy1231 says: Oct 8, 2013 6:01 AM

    Todd Haley will be available at the end of the season, maybe Tomlin also

  34. kscogg says: Oct 8, 2013 12:05 PM

    htown1035 says:
    Oct 7, 2013 9:49 PM
    kscogg says:Oct 7, 2013 4:28 PM

    I work with a guy who follows the Texans closely and we debate Schaub all the time. His main point about Schaub, and I agree, is that he shows no emotion. There is zero fire in him. His body language is awful. He looks defeated before they ever run a play. He was an upgrade over Carr, absolutely but now its clear that he doesn’t have “IT”.
    ——————————————
    I liked your post except for this part – yes his body language is bad, especially when things go wrong, but not showing emotion doesn’t necessarily equate to a bad QB. Flacco looks like he’s catatonic while playing but he’s doing just fine.

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    Yes, Flacco looks dazed and confused as well but don’t you get the sense Flacco and Schaub are miles apart? I can’t stand Flacco because of his whining about not being mentioned as a top QB but I would surely take him over Schaub.

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