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John Harbaugh: I have no idea what Aaron Rodgers is talking about

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Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers complained that Ravens safety Matt Elam hit Green Bay’s Randall Cobb in the knee on a tackle on Sunday. Ravens coach John Harbaugh has no idea what Rodgers is complaining about.

Asked about the matter on Monday, Harbaugh said Rodgers’ complaints are “pretty hard for me to understand.” Harbaugh noted that Cobb caught the ball over the middle and Elam was just doing his job by taking Cobb down.

“Aaron made a good, quick throw in there and Matt is doing the best he can to try to stop that play. So I have no idea what he’s talking about,” Harbaugh said.

Rodgers confronted Elam on the field and said afterward that he told Elam he should have tackled Cobb in “the proper hitting zone.” Harbaugh says Elam did make a proper hit.

“I think Matt made a tackle,” Harbaugh said. “He was scrambling to try to catch up with that route as best as he could to make the tackle on him.”

Elam wasn’t penalized, and he won’t be fined. Elam’s hit was legal, and if Rodgers thinks otherwise, then Rodgers doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

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  1. filthymcnasty1 says: Oct 15, 2013 8:57 AM

    He should have Jim explain it to him.

  2. EJ says: Oct 15, 2013 8:57 AM

    He just wanted to discount and DOUBLE CHECK the hit to make sure it was legal.

  3. jjthesportsguy says: Oct 15, 2013 8:58 AM

    While I agree that it is not against the rules, I think it is certainly a gray area. I definitely think this type of hit is something that will be addressed in the coming years.

    I’d hate to be a defensive back…very tough to land a clean hit without scrutiny. I remember when these same hits used to be featured on a segment called “jacked up” and were celebrated.

  4. buhbay1c says: Oct 15, 2013 8:58 AM

    And if Elam had gone high and concussed him, Packers would be whining about that too. Take it up with Goodell.

  5. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Oct 15, 2013 9:01 AM

    Don’t be like your idiot brother, John.

  6. Pat says: Oct 15, 2013 9:01 AM

    he’s saying that just because it’s “legal” doesn’t mean he should have him in the knees when his midsection was completely vulnerable.

    you were “allowed” to block OL in their knees on cutback blocks 4 weeks ago before they changed the rule, but we all knew that wasn’t right either.

  7. nfcbeastly says: Oct 15, 2013 9:04 AM

    This is not tackle football anymore, it’s organized flag football, at least that’s what it’s becoming? What’s next? A ban on stiff arms? *sigh*

  8. herlies says: Oct 15, 2013 9:06 AM

    Rodgers didn’t say that the hit was illegal, he said that from “his vantage point” the hit looked reckless.

    It was reckless, but that’s football. It is legal to dive at a ball carrier’s legs with your head down. It’s also legal to be pissed when it happens.

  9. geniusry says: Oct 15, 2013 9:07 AM

    This was an exceptional hit and the perfect example of how the rules have made it almost impossible for DB’s to do their jobs. Football is not a safe game and nothing they do is going to make it safe aside from developing some better equipment. Pick: knees or brains.

  10. theflyingtad says: Oct 15, 2013 9:07 AM

    “Elam wasn’t penalized, and he won’t be fined. Elam’s hit was legal, and if Rodgers thinks otherwise, then Rodgers doesn’t know what he’s talking about.”

    You guys act like you haven’t heard the dozens of interviews with players (WRs) that would prefer a concussion over a knee injury. Are you ignoring the articles you post on this site about the topic?

    Look, its not against the rules… Head hunting wasn’t against the rules either. Players need to be vocal about how the game changes are affecting them.

    That said, Rodgers needs to direct his message to Roger. Not a safety that is doing his job within the rules.

  11. guitarkevin says: Oct 15, 2013 9:09 AM

    As Araven’s fan I get why Aaron was upset. No one wants to see their teammate get hurt.

    I hope Aaron doesn’t turn into Tom Brady, crying to the refs all the time.

  12. muskyhunter2542 says: Oct 15, 2013 9:09 AM

    “pretty hard for me to understand.” Harbaugh noted that Cobb caught the ball over the middle and Elam was just doing his job by taking Cobb down.

    ________

    Of course not… Elam is your player. Your going to defend him.

  13. dino2997 says: Oct 15, 2013 9:10 AM

    No problem. Rodgers doesn’t know what he’s talking about either.

  14. zappa69 says: Oct 15, 2013 9:10 AM

    This all goes back to the Packer coaches teaching bad technique on their tackling. They teach it wrong, they don’t know what’s right anymore. Has Rogers ever tackled anyone? NO!

  15. dkrause71 says: Oct 15, 2013 9:11 AM

    At some point this is going to happen to the Ravens this season. Let’s hope John remembers how this isn’t a big deal then.

  16. xemper0rx says: Oct 15, 2013 9:12 AM

    Elam hit Cobb’s knee with his helmet and he already decided to dive at Cobb knees prior to Cobb catching that ball.

    Yes it is a legal hit, did he have to dive at his knees in order to tackle him, probably not.

    Had Cobb not been injured this wouldn’t be an issue, but he did and next year defensive players won’t be able to tackle at the knees.

  17. ocdn says: Oct 15, 2013 9:14 AM

    If that hit was by Suh, there would have been a fine and suspension.

  18. gmsingh123 says: Oct 15, 2013 9:15 AM

    So now we have reached the point in the NFL when an unflagged, unfined, legal hit to a player is the tackler’s fault when the player sustains an injury. Great.

  19. kash71 says: Oct 15, 2013 9:17 AM

    The problem is “player safety” has been poorly implemented and explained by the multi billion dollar NFL.

  20. packergator says: Oct 15, 2013 9:18 AM

    A-Rodg is free to have that opinion, but should have just left it on the field. He just comes across as a whiner when he makes it public, especially when the NFL doesn’t back that claim up.

  21. gammynomnom says: Oct 15, 2013 9:18 AM

    whole lotta whining in the NFL this year.

  22. acdc84 says: Oct 15, 2013 9:19 AM

    I think that was just a case of a leader having his guy’s back. Nothing wrong with that.

  23. theimmaculatedeception says: Oct 15, 2013 9:20 AM

    I remember when the Green Bay Packers were a relevant team.

  24. skoobyfl says: Oct 15, 2013 9:21 AM

    I wouldn’t “discount” what Rodgers is saying.

  25. dublindemonszfl says: Oct 15, 2013 9:22 AM

    Players get hurt, its football. He wasn’t penalized and won’t be fined because no one likes the packers. It’s really quite simple. Rodgers go cry in cheese hat.

  26. bubbasmithguy says: Oct 15, 2013 9:24 AM

    Rodgers is a moron. A good QB but a 2 cent brain.

  27. smilesaustin says: Oct 15, 2013 9:24 AM

    Surprised this would come as a shock to anyone. Aaron Rodgers is an enormous crybaby. Very good quarterback, elite crybaby.

  28. black59razor says: Oct 15, 2013 9:28 AM

    Looked to me like Elam hit Cobb’s knee with his helmet…last I checked, that was not “legal” or clean by any stretch of the imagination. Yes, tackling low is legal…using your helmet as a weapon because you have no tackling skills is bush league. Having a Harbaugh as a coach makes that a perfect fit.

  29. jonny42671 says: Oct 15, 2013 9:29 AM

    Don’t worry John. It’s just the Packer way.

  30. twonis says: Oct 15, 2013 9:30 AM

    Elam didn’t need to go head first into Cobb’s knee and Rodgers got in his face in defense of his receiver. This is no different than if one of the O-Line got extra nasty with a D-Lineman that they thought got too rough with their QB.

    Things get heated. ARod didn’t have the chance to see it in slow-mo replay from a different angle like all of us armchair QB’s.

  31. claymath52 says: Oct 15, 2013 9:30 AM

    “Aaron Rodgers complained that Ravens safety Matt Elam hit Green Bay’s Randall Cobb in the knee on a tackle on Sunday”

    Wrong.

    Rodgers explained to the media what he was chirping about with the Ravens players on the field right after it happened.

    Go ahead and twist that into a big spectical and act as if he compained after the game if you would like….

  32. axespray says: Oct 15, 2013 9:34 AM

    This Packer Fan: “I have no clue why John went for it …on the goal line with his soft team and why this doofus went for it with his doofus QB with under 30 seconds left in the 1st half – but thanks.”

    I also have no clue why the big bad ravens couldn’t beat a Packer’s team w/o Casey Hayward/Nick Perry/Bulaga/Starks/Matthews/Jones/Cobb/Sherrod/Worthy/Francois/Brad Jones…

  33. bodhisattva says: Oct 15, 2013 9:34 AM

    He went for knee, we all saw it.

  34. thundastormz says: Oct 15, 2013 9:35 AM

    Is it just me or is Aaron Rodgers annoying? I think he is by far the most overrated QB in the NFL. I mean sure he puts up big numbers….but so did Matt Flynn with that team and we all saw how well he has done with others. Rodgers needs to shut his mouth and count his blessings.

  35. fredsingleton says: Oct 15, 2013 9:37 AM

    Packer players crying about something, what else is new.

  36. Nofoolnodrool says: Oct 15, 2013 9:38 AM

    I don’t wish harm to any Raven player, but Harbag’s whine will be heard cross country if it happens to one of his men. He is such a little baby and encourages his players to beg for flags on every play and his prune face when his team is flagged…..priceless.

  37. marktroy says: Oct 15, 2013 9:39 AM

    Nothing wrong with a quarterback reacting out of concern for his receiver. Heat of the moment type of thing.

  38. stellarperformance says: Oct 15, 2013 9:42 AM

    Legal-schmegal. From his vantage point he thought he saw it differently. This is what happens when tiny “tough-guys” are forced to tackle larger players. They can’t tackle like men. They were never trained in the art of tackling. They have to resort to any means necessary, like taking out somebody’s legs or knees…..careers be damned.

  39. countduku says: Oct 15, 2013 9:43 AM

    Don’t worry John, I don’t think Aaron knows what he’s talking about either.

  40. jimthebuilder27 says: Oct 15, 2013 9:44 AM

    How is it that nobody saw this coming??

    When you change the target area there’s going to be more injuries to other areas of your body! How many players would rather have a concussion than a broken leg or torn ACL?

  41. sellinmp1506 says: Oct 15, 2013 9:44 AM

    It’s really quite simple. Yes it was a legal hit. But when you watch the replay you see Cobb catch the ball and Elam square him up, then drop his shoulders and helmet, aiming his helmet at Cobb’s knees. Legal? Yes. Necessary? Maybe not. Perhaps Rodgers misunderstood the rules, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand his point, he thinks he could have hit him in the midsection. Wonder how Harbaugh would feel if it was Torey Smith who was hit. His brother cries about his QB getting hit, period. I’m sure John would have some crying to do as well, if roles were reversed. Legal hit 100%, but no need to aim crowns of helmets at fellow players knees.

  42. majikwen says: Oct 15, 2013 9:45 AM

    it was a legal hit but dirty, kinda like warren sapp’s hit on chad clifton. WR’s can’t block below the waist away from the line of scrimmage for a reason, legs explode. can’t explain it but it looked dirty, he could have hit the body. CB’s keep hitting WR’s like that and there will be a rule change.

  43. ivanpavlov0000 says: Oct 15, 2013 9:45 AM

    Different rules for different players. For some guys, a grey area hit like this would be “evidence” of a track record for dirty play.

  44. tennesseeoilers says: Oct 15, 2013 9:50 AM

    For the first time EVER, John Harbaugh and I agree.

  45. nwfisch says: Oct 15, 2013 9:55 AM

    Rodgers has too much cheese with his whine.

    That’s all the Packers are good for, cheese and whine.

  46. 23rdusernameused says: Oct 15, 2013 9:55 AM

    Mrs, Crybaby, Erin Rodgers! Does not surprise me!

  47. 2manyconcussions says: Oct 15, 2013 9:56 AM

    “Elam wasn’t penalized, and he won’t be fined. Elam’s hit was legal, and if Rodgers thinks otherwise, then Rodgers doesn’t know what he’s talking about.”

    Which, of course, misses the point of Aaron Rodgers’ complaint.

  48. runmarshawnrun says: Oct 15, 2013 9:58 AM

    Rodgers complains way too much. His weekly radio show should be called “Whine of the Week”. Discount double baby….

  49. therealhardt says: Oct 15, 2013 9:59 AM

    don’t listen to a thing rodgers says. he still owes someone his salary over braun’s PEDs…

  50. bucfan702 says: Oct 15, 2013 10:01 AM

    So now at full speed u r supposed to find a nice soft spot to hit a guy right. whip out the flags and shirts for this girly league. I rather watch the lady football league they still can hit over there.

  51. mvp43 says: Oct 15, 2013 10:03 AM

    I watched that play a dozen times and although I agree it was a legal hit, he did have enough time to size him up and maybe hit the mid section. I don’t blame Rodgers at all……. he’s standing up for his guy- that’s his job as the leader.

    All the fines being thrown out for high hits is going to cause situations like this.

  52. packersownthenorth says: Oct 15, 2013 10:03 AM

    Wow, now I know why Steelers fans hate this guy & the Ravens. What a clown.

    The hit techincally is legal (for now), but Elam could have gone for the body and not a direct shot at the knee. That’s all QB1 was saying. These Harbaugh brothers need to get back to X’s and O’s and stay out of the media.

  53. peytonwantsaflag says: Oct 15, 2013 10:11 AM

    if these guys don’t want to play football then maybe they should play something else.

  54. 2qswing says: Oct 15, 2013 10:11 AM

    Harbaugh would be crying like a baby if the situation was reversed. In fact … he has .

  55. hanifmiller says: Oct 15, 2013 10:12 AM

    Employees are given job descriptions and they are paid to follow that job description. Elam performed his job duties outlined by the NFL.

  56. supremecomander says: Oct 15, 2013 10:12 AM

    I like John Harbaugh. I like Torrey Smith too, good dude. But it’s time for Troy Polamalu to blow Smith’s knee out on a mid-field reception. See if Harbs still singing the same tune with his top WR shelved. If a safety can’t tackle a receiver by hitting him in the strike zone and wrapping up, then you have no business playing football (Elam).

  57. peytonwantsaflag says: Oct 15, 2013 10:14 AM

    “If that hit was by Suh, there would have been a fine and suspension.”
    ——————————————-

    if that were a hit by Suh he would’ve already been on the ground when Suh proceeded to stomp on his knee.

  58. rl7911 says: Oct 15, 2013 10:14 AM

    Rodgers is and has been an enormous cry baby, the guy needs to just shut his mouth.

  59. Nofoolnodrool says: Oct 15, 2013 10:15 AM

    As Araven’s fan I get why Aaron was upset. No one wants to see their teammate get hurt.

    I hope Aaron doesn’t turn into Tom Brady, crying to the refs all the time.

    The way is if he becomes a Raven and is coached by Whinebaugh.

  60. lgbarn says: Oct 15, 2013 10:16 AM

    nfcbeastly says:
    Oct 15, 2013 9:04 AM
    This is not tackle football anymore, it’s organized flag football, at least that’s what it’s becoming? What’s next? A ban on stiff arms? *sigh*

    ——————————————-

    New rule already in place to flag offensive players that stiff arm into the facemask. I’ve only seen it called once or twice but it is there.

  61. scoops1 says: Oct 15, 2013 10:17 AM

    zappa69 says: Oct 15, 2013 9:10 AM

    This all goes back to the Packer coaches teaching bad technique on their tackling. They teach it wrong, they don’t know what’s right anymore. Has Rogers ever tackled anyone? NO!
    —————————————–

    he tackled Brian Urlacher

  62. supremecomander says: Oct 15, 2013 10:18 AM

    What most fans don’t realize is, all football players do what their coached. On the field, they have no brains. QBs can’t even run a play without a play call, and will call TO. The REASON DBs are blowing out receiver’s knees is all all across the league defensive coaching staff are more concerned about losing their job than player safety.

    Coaches like Gregg Williams, Dean Pees, Kevin Coyle and all their subordinates are looking at the helmet-to-helmet rules and saying to their defensive players, just aim for the knees. So the DBs and LBs think it’s okay to end guy’s seasons, b/c they are just doing what they are coached. I guarantee if the coaches told them to knock it off, they would do it.

    But these DEF coaches don’t want to lose their cushy jobs and nice vacations and could care less about the players who draw the fans and pay their salary. If anything, blame the coaching staff for having no sportsmanship. Sometimes it’s better to lose than to play dirty and win. Or better yet, just teach your team how to tackle well instead of using a loophole in the system to blow guys’ knees out and blame Goodell.

  63. crownofthehelmet says: Oct 15, 2013 10:18 AM

    Elam had plenty off time to aim for a less damaging spot and still make the play. Harbs would be up in arms if that was Torrey getting lit up the same way.

  64. huskie67 says: Oct 15, 2013 10:19 AM

    Of course he knows

  65. zam0854 says: Oct 15, 2013 10:21 AM

    “You better Double Check that Rodgers”

  66. ccjcsr says: Oct 15, 2013 10:21 AM

    Dr. Andrews will be busier than ever replacing ligaments to all these players knees that will be targeted from here on out!

    Risk vs Reward

  67. sbaltimore says: Oct 15, 2013 10:21 AM

    Sounds like Rodgers is beginning to believe his own hype. Stop whining and play football.

    (BTW…props to the Packers for the win. It was well earned.)

  68. toonzes says: Oct 15, 2013 10:21 AM

    while I admire Rodgers as a QB, his incessant whining when his weapons get hurt is nothing more than sour grapes. The Packers and specifically Rodgers get all of the credit when they persevere through hard times… WELL this is a hard time, QUIT whining! IT”S THE NFL!

  69. sbaltimore says: Oct 15, 2013 10:23 AM

    This is also one of the rare times I agree with John Harbaugh. But hey…even a broken clock is right twice a day.

  70. Patriot42 says: Oct 15, 2013 10:25 AM

    Rodgers, snatch him by the neck squeeze until his eyes bug out to get his attention and explain it to him.

  71. theoriginalbvan says: Oct 15, 2013 10:27 AM

    Do away with the helmets and pads ala rugby. There might be a couple of Kamikazes left, but the majority of players would alter their running and tackling methods without the “weapons”.

  72. rayraysbloodysuit says: Oct 15, 2013 10:36 AM

    The Ravens have a history of cheap shots, and trying to injure players.

    See: Gannon getting killed vs. Siragusa. Not shocked that Harbaugh would defend this. He’s as big of a jerk as his fool brother.

  73. peoriaviking says: Oct 15, 2013 10:38 AM

    Not with this hit in particular but the problem league wide is when offensive player crouches to go low in anticipation of a hit after defensive back has already launched on what would have been a good trajectory but ends up being too high and head to head due to the crouching of the offensive player. Defensive players will have no choice but to go low in order to not get flagged.

  74. gbmickey says: Oct 15, 2013 10:41 AM

    Jealous fans of Aaron just based on posts about him not being good. Do you realize how much those posts sound like whining because you have an inferior qb on your team, such simplisic comments have no credibility. An fyi Rodgers was sticking up for his receiver that took an unneccesary shot to the knee, something you would expect every qb to do. While it is legal by the rules players know it was a cheap shot when he could easily tackled the small receiver above the knee. Watch the replay and honestly tell me that you wouldnt be a little upset to lose your #1 receiver based on the hit. Evry receiver in the league says they would rather have a hit to the head than the knees.

  75. pushn50 says: Oct 15, 2013 10:43 AM

    LOL at all the haters with their sanctimonious whiner complaints! Stop acting like Rodgers is the first QB ever to rush in and defend one of his players after a near season ending hit.

    I for one love that Rodgers got in that idiot Elam’s face. The haters just hate because Rodgers is head and shoulders above who ever they have starting QB for their team. Keep hating – VERY glad Rodgers is starting QB for the Packers, and your visceral hatred of the guy makes me dig him even more!

  76. kenshalek says: Oct 15, 2013 10:45 AM

    NFL is turning into flag-football. That was a great tackle. Safety’s wont be allowed to hit anyone if this keeps up.

  77. Trevor Swanson says: Oct 15, 2013 10:48 AM

    I’m sure Harbrat would have totally understood (and cried shamelessly to the refs) if it had been Boldin…

  78. kenbell97 says: Oct 15, 2013 10:53 AM

    Within the rulebook, the hit is legal. Ask any player, and they’ll tell you 100 times out of 100 that they’d prefer to be hit up high. Players are paid for their legs, not their brains.

    A simple solution to the concussions/lawsuits would be to make all NFL players to sign a waiver the day they are drafted/signed that the league is not responsible for what happens to them out on the field or after their playing days are over. If you don’t like those rules, then don’t play the game. It’s simple.

  79. dolphinatic1109 says: Oct 15, 2013 10:57 AM

    From my own perspective, the hit looked pretty clean. But what do I know?

  80. gbpackets says: Oct 15, 2013 10:58 AM

    If the league would just legislate that a legal tackle has to involve wrapping the offensive player (as is the case in rugby), this sort of thing would happen a lot less. It’s pathetic trying to watch ‘tackling’ in the NFL these days.

  81. nyneal says: Oct 15, 2013 11:16 AM

    Here’s my view, as a long time Packer fan. I didn’t think the hit was an illegal hit. The DB’s are up against it any time they go high, so now they will go low and this is what will happen. They simply can’t win.
    As for Rodgers’ comments, he voiced is opinion on the field and off. I see players do that every week.
    I watch every Packer game and those who are calling Rodgers a crybaby are wrong. He rarely says anything. He doesn’t come close to guys like Philip Rivers, Tony Romo, and even Peyton Manning as being a so-called whiner. By the way, I don’t think those guys are whiners, either, but they yap more than Rodgers does by a wide margin.
    That said, the Harbaugh brothers are two of the biggest whiners in the NFL. They are always screaming at officials and whining about plays.
    Aaron Rodgers is an excellent QB and this much I know. He’s one of the QB’s teams that don’t have a great one wish they had. And maybe those Ravens would have been able to keep a couple guys had they not paid the over-rated Joe Flacco all that money.

  82. rpiotr01 says: Oct 15, 2013 11:20 AM

    Harbaugh can’t understand Rodgers because his ears are still ringing from that massive AR-Jordy Nelson bomb the Packers dropped on his defense.

    Give it a week, John, that’ll clear up.

  83. iamedreed says: Oct 15, 2013 11:22 AM

    obviously none of the commenters here have ever played football at a high level because you don’t just pick and choose where you hit the receiver

    he is a moving target, moving extremely fast, and when elam aims for his misdsection and then cobb ducks his head down and gets a 15 yard penalty whose fault is that now?

    ive been saying this for the past 2 seasons, you don’t want any more headshots then prepare for shredded knees

  84. immafubared says: Oct 15, 2013 11:23 AM

    I don’t understand. I saw the game too and it was not just Elam. All the dbacks were going for the knees. They were not trying to make a tackle per se with the arms.
    They were coached to do that and those kind of hits cause injuries and take out players.

    I hope other dbacks on other teams start emulating this kind of play because the commish is looking the other way right now. Once there are no one left to play the game, maybe they will officially describe what a tackle is and isn’.t

  85. granadafan says: Oct 15, 2013 11:28 AM

    Clearly some have you have never played organized sports before or you have an irrational hatred towards Rodgers/ Packers. When one of your teammates goes down to a hit that was avoidable, then of course you’re going to defend him.

    Throat strikes aren’t illegal either, but you don’t see players doing that. Use some common sense here. If defenders started hitting Adrian Peterson’s knees, you Vikings bitching about Rodgers would be the first to complain too. So, stop your hypocrisy.

  86. GenXJay says: Oct 15, 2013 11:36 AM

    what complete crybaby. Bring some knuckles next time, ShAaron.

  87. getyourownname says: Oct 15, 2013 11:36 AM

    Hilarous seeing steeler trolls complain, after they went apopleptic about Harrison’s fines when he played for them.

    I saw the game. Elam was the last defender and looked like he might not have been able to tackle the ballcarrier if he had gone high. If your choice is to make a legal hit and save a touchdown, or risk trying a high tackle that could be broken with a score in a tight game, what defender would choose the latter? Certainly, no steeler defender.

  88. 4greatestvikingever says: Oct 15, 2013 11:42 AM

    It’s called the discount double check. RODGERSSSSSSS!

  89. thelawon says: Oct 15, 2013 11:43 AM

    guitarkevin says:
    Oct 15, 2013 9:09 AM
    As Araven’s fan I get why Aaron was upset. No one wants to see their teammate get hurt.

    I hope Aaron doesn’t turn into Tom Brady, crying to the refs all the time.

    You mean like your head coach does after every play?

  90. duluthfan says: Oct 15, 2013 11:45 AM

    “I hope Aaron doesn’t turn into Tom Brady, crying to the refs all the time.”

    You must not watch Aaron and the Packers at all…it’s too late for that.

  91. aceben3 says: Oct 15, 2013 11:48 AM

    This was inevitable and not the least bit “dirty.” Is it dirty every time a team calls a stretch run/outside zone play, since they cut block the back side?

    If enough of these hits happen, the rule will surely change, although I can’t see a better alternative. Aaron is right to be supportive of his WR, same for Harbaugh and his player. I am a fan of one of these teams but don’t consider anybody out of line in all of this.

  92. gergie1957 says: Oct 15, 2013 11:50 AM

    For the love of God, this is Football, I’m sure Aaron would have loved it if Matt had just let him catch the ball and walk in for a touchdown, This is Football and Mans game, toughen the f up or go play Soccer Aaron.

  93. thebirdofprey2 says: Oct 15, 2013 11:53 AM

    The Harbaugh I respect is starting to sound like his brother. There are certain things in football you don’t do, you don’t use your helmet spear a players knees.

    This is no different than the Texans rookie safety that probably ended Dustin Keller’s career. I know the rules make it more difficult on defenders but there is a huge strike zone between the head and the knees. What ever happened to wrapping up to make a tackle?

  94. Nofoolnodrool says: Oct 15, 2013 11:56 AM

    Of course coach Harbag doesn’t know what Rodgers is talking about because it involves common sense, ethics, and an unwritten code that he chooses to ignore except if one of his players is hurt. Being competitive is one thing, but you can be classy and competitive at the same time like Mike Tomlin…both Hargags are the epitome of whining dogs…terriers at best.

  95. bengalsfan20 says: Oct 15, 2013 11:57 AM

    Being a division rival, I’m not a Ravens fan by any means and I do to some extent like the Packers. But I think Elam getting yelled at by Rodgers is complete bs. Elam didn’t want to get fined or flagged for going high so he went low instead. He’s just doing his job and the NFL has changed the rules so much with regards to those hits that going low is really the only option for players.

  96. burnembert says: Oct 15, 2013 12:03 PM

    “Elam wasn’t penalized, and he won’t be fined. Elam’s hit was legal, and if Rodgers thinks otherwise, then Rodgers doesn’t know what he’s talking about.”

    I realize the personal opinion of the writer is part of what makes this website successful. That being said, did we really need the last part of the closing sentence? Sounds a bit unprofessional.

  97. richcranium2112 says: Oct 15, 2013 12:12 PM

    Dealing with the unintended consequences of the league making the high / head shot illegal is the issue.

    Too bad a majority of players today no longer tackle other players in the manner they’d been taught since Pop Warner football – heads up, see the ball carrier, wrap up and put down.

    The players launch themselves to hit with their shoulder, head or helmet with nary the intent of using their arms to ‘blow up’ the ball carrier.

    Wait til its one of the Blowhard brothers’ players laying on the ground – it will be a different tune.

  98. olskool711 says: Oct 15, 2013 12:13 PM

    Two years ago the sky was falling on this board because Darth Goodell was outlawing hits to the head.

    Football will be ruined, never be the same. We will soon be outfitting players in dresses.

    You guys were wrong.

    A couple weeks ago my team hit the opposing quarterback on the knee, knocked him out of the game, and we won. YEA!!!

    The next few days I read time and time again how the hit was legal, yada yada blah blah blah.

    How unmanly it would be for me to feel like that hit was unnecessary and was intended to take the guy out. THIS IS FOOTBALL!!! Even though my teams quarterback was taken out earlier, the victory still left a bad taste.

    Despite how much I might dislike other teams star players, do I really want them on the sidelines and not playing?

    Just win baby, if you aint cheating you aint tryin. Hey, its part of the game.

    I like it when my team wins against the other teams star players. I like watching gifted athletes play the greatest sport there is.

    I get it, to be a real man I have to believe that driving my pads or helmet into the opponents knees is good for the sport. Its the only way we can enjoy football. Forcing players to come in with helmet up, driving the pads through the waist or chest, wraping up, and driving down is asking way, way, way too much. It will ruin the game. Thanks for setting me straight.

    Maybe I’m getting old.

  99. mrlaloosh says: Oct 15, 2013 12:29 PM

    Looks like Rodgers has a new “friend” since he dumped Ryan Braun. Randall Rodgers-Cobb.

  100. warhammer420 says: Oct 15, 2013 12:57 PM

    Elam should have politely tapped Cobb on the shoulder and asked where he’d like to be tackled. Afterwards they can sit down for tea and knit some doilies!

  101. bobsnygiants says: Oct 15, 2013 1:14 PM

    QBS IS BECOMING A CRY BABY

  102. dliwsrekoj says: Oct 15, 2013 1:19 PM

    After reading all these complaints about how low this hit was or so on. I think the NFL should just pass a new rule where instead of playing with Footballs they play with balloons, instead of wearing helmets they wear paper hats, and instead of pads, its bra’s over their jerseys. You want to complain? that’s explain how you make the league sound. A tackle is a tackle. That’s the reason football is so popular to begin with. You could just stop watching football altogether and go watch ice skating or something to that nature.

  103. pushn50 says: Oct 15, 2013 1:21 PM

    Cobb has a broken leg as a result of this debacle, and sadly, this IMPORTANT fact is not even mentioned on this story!

  104. woodsa22 says: Oct 15, 2013 1:28 PM

    Stop with the “Flag Football” crud.

    Tip: if you are in a football discussion and someone says “its turning in to flag football,” just walk away. You dealing with a thoughtless idiot.

    You cant cite the “glory days” of tackle football while those same players are suing the NFL for their head boo boo’s.

    Im with olskool711, i want to watch the best players play. The colts were a fun team, Manning goes down and i never watched another game that season.

    Those yelling “flag football” need to stop pretending that this game is here to do anything but entertain. If the product on the field consists of backups and hasbeen you are not going to watch the games anymore.

    And dont give me any noise about “i watch the complexities of the game,” because you dont. If you did you would not care about big hits and some of the other superficial nascar-esque parts of the game.

    Simply put, if you want to be entertained, you need the best players on the field. If you want to be a Couch Head Coach then you need the best players on the field. Having them all sidelined because of some Caveman interpretation of what football “should be” is completely and utterly moronic.

    Last thing: Dear Alex Smith, please put points on the board. Please help our defense. Go Chiefs.

  105. johngaltwho says: Oct 15, 2013 1:28 PM

    This is no longer about the players. This is about a Chicago based sportswriter trying to stir up controversy about a one and done comment. Rodgers said one thing on the field and then he was done. The press keep asking people what they think about what he said because they have nothing insightful to say about football until next Sunday.

  106. stellarperformance says: Oct 15, 2013 1:48 PM

    Coach…..look up “how to tackle when playing football” in wikiknows. It has step by step photographic instructions. THAT’S what Rodgers is talking about. Glad to help, but you should’ve known this already. The “launch your body through their legs and knees” is not demonstrated….(for some odd reason.)

  107. pooflingingmonkey says: Oct 15, 2013 1:50 PM

    I love all of you “it’s turning into flag football” couch warriors. And by love, I mean detest.

    They have to make the game safer for the players, but you don’t care. You want blood, gore, injuries. It’s not your knee, or brain on the line, right? This is football, not gladiators. You’re probaby expecting to see Tony Romo get on the PA after a game and say “Are you not entertained?”

    Clean hit or dirty hit? I don’t know. But the resistance to added safety by some of you is pointless.

  108. danoj14 says: Oct 15, 2013 1:56 PM

    jjthesportsguy says:
    Oct 15, 2013 8:58 AM
    While I agree that it is not against the rules, I think it is certainly a gray area. I definitely think this type of hit is something that will be addressed in the coming years.

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    What? How can you agree that it isn’t against the rules and then say it’s a gray area? There’s no gray area here. The knee is part of the legal hitting zone.

    What part of that is gray to you?

  109. danoj14 says: Oct 15, 2013 1:57 PM

    pushn50 says:
    Oct 15, 2013 1:21 PM
    Cobb has a broken leg as a result of this debacle, and sadly, this IMPORTANT fact is not even mentioned on this story!

    ———————————————————

    What you mean is “Cobb has a broken leg as a result of this legal hit and this is tackle football, not flag.”

  110. dgt178 says: Oct 15, 2013 2:22 PM

    ….sooooo sick of those whiney-a.zz hairball brothers…..A POX ON BOTH OF THEM……

  111. duggyd2001 says: Oct 15, 2013 2:26 PM

    Rodgers was not saying it was illegal. He is saying it was an unnecessary dirty hit. The guy did not have to lower his head and go for the knees. He could have hit him in the mid section just as easy. Just because something is technically legal does not make it right.

  112. chi01town says: Oct 15, 2013 3:35 PM

    Elam took out a green bay packer. that sounds good to me. Rodgers is complaining about it.. THAT MEANS Elam hurt the right one. and we dont have to double check cause Rodgers already did that.

  113. crownofthehelmet says: Oct 15, 2013 3:57 PM

    getyourownname says:
    I saw the game. Elam was the last defender and looked like he might not have been able to tackle the ballcarrier if he had gone high.
    ———————————————————-
    Oh my, this couldn’t be further from the truth. You must have one of those new 3-D tv’s, D for delusional. Elam had plenty of time to size up a receiver who didn’t even see him yet. I could’ve made that tackle, and without chopping the knee.

  114. suckit619 says: Oct 15, 2013 3:59 PM

    This isn’t that shocking to me…. Aarogant Rodgers is the biggest crybaby in the NFL.

  115. danoj14 says: Oct 15, 2013 4:17 PM

    crownofthehelmet says:

    I could’ve made that tackle, and without chopping the knee.

    ———————————————————-

    I call BS

  116. danoj14 says: Oct 15, 2013 4:21 PM

    duggyd2001 says:
    Oct 15, 2013 2:26 PM

    Rodgers was not saying it was illegal. He is saying it was an unnecessary dirty hit.

    ———————————————————-

    And Rodgers would be wrong. It wasn’t dirty! The NFL fines everyone for the slightest of infractions and they won’t even be looking at this!

    I used to think Packers fans were ok – they certainly stand by their team. But now? They actually cry when a WR gets hurt on a clean play. You’ve become soft Packer fans…

  117. provguard says: Oct 15, 2013 5:15 PM

    The solution is flag football or paint gun….

  118. sdbuddy13 says: Oct 15, 2013 8:39 PM

    It was a dirty “tackle” there was nothing clean about it..you don’t need to dive into a receivers knees at full throttle to make a play.

    That had injury written all over it. I agree with rodgers that elam should
    have taken a different approach to that move..mid section knock the wind out of him but don’t break dudes legs

    Check out that polamalu hit on jets’ hill at the sideline..now that’s a true tackle

  119. robgilman says: Oct 15, 2013 9:22 PM

    We really need to eliminate violence from the game. The NFL needs to rid away with actual players and go digital. Technology has replaced many jobs once relied on by humans. From a business perspective it makes complete sense- less overhead, with same if not better effect. Fans can attend games and be provided 3-d glasses (just like at the movies).

    Can be done with the use of an overhead projector that reflects down onto basically a tilted piece of glass that’s on field level. Can then reflect the reflection onto a mylar sort of screen, and it projects it into 3-D.

    Why pay 53 men to play in real life when you can pay one man to control the 3-D video game team? The controller can then create as much violence with the players as he wants (think NFL Blitz N64 style). The possibilities are endless

  120. crownofthehelmet says: Oct 15, 2013 10:00 PM

    danoj14, no BS. Go watch the replay. Anyone semi-athletic between the age of 17 and 55 could’ve easily wrapped him up and taken him down. Heck, since Cobb was blind on the play, they could just ball-up and he would trip over him.

  121. benniehifive says: Oct 16, 2013 7:45 AM

    how about this….the league can fine anybody for a hit that causes injury if the defensive player had a chance to use their hands to make the tackle and choose not to. if you look at that replay he dove into Cobb’s legs with his hands under his body. I totally understand it’s football and just get the guy down any way you can, but the art of tackling has certainly gone to the wayside.

  122. danoj14 says: Oct 16, 2013 9:12 AM

    crownofthehelmet says:
    Oct 15, 2013 10:00 PM
    danoj14, no BS. Go watch the replay. Anyone semi-athletic between the age of 17 and 55 could’ve easily wrapped him up and taken him down. Heck, since Cobb was blind on the play, they could just ball-up and he would trip over him.

    ——————————————————————

    Have you watched a game from the sidelines? Do you realize how fast it is? On TV and in the stands it appears much slower than it actually is.

    Reaction time is much different. You think Elam had that much time to ponder the best way to hit Cobb?

  123. clemenza58 says: Oct 17, 2013 1:50 PM

    The only way Rodgers would be Ok with the hit is if there was no injury. He’s just mad that he has to play without Cobb for an extended period. Obviously, that will have an impact on him and his team.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Aaron Rodgers may be a great quarterback but he’s a diva. Next man up.

  124. golforepar says: Oct 18, 2013 9:14 AM

    Maybe Jim, I mean John ought to worry about trying to win games not what another team’s QB has to say!

  125. Deb says: Oct 20, 2013 4:25 PM

    John Harbaugh had trouble understanding complaints about a supposedly bad hit. Yeah, I can empathize. I had trouble understanding his whining that random rock songs being played in a stadium were about his QB.

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