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Oneida Indian Nation fires back at attacks on Ray Halbritter

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Now that the opposition to the Redskins name has gained some traction, proponents of the name have opted to supplement their defense by attacking one of the men leading the charge against it.

The Daily Caller and others have questioned whether Oneida Indian Nation representative Ray Halbritter is a legitimate member of the tribe.

“He is not even technically an Oneida.  There is not a drop of Oneida in him,” New York Assemblywoman Claudia Tenney said.

The Daily Caller also characterized Halbritter as “an Obama crony who is raking in casino money and paying back only small stipends to his tribe members.”

The reference to President Barack Obama helped catch the attention of Rush Limbaugh, who declared on his radio show Tuesday, “The guy is a fraud.  He’s an Obama crony.  Was there ever any doubt that Obama’s behind this?  Not in my mind.”

Oneida Indian Nation’s V.P. of communications Joel Barkin, who compared the attacks on Halbritter to the persistent questions about President Obama’s birthplace, said that the attempt to smear Halbritter deliberately confuses the issues.

“The formula for this particular kind of prejudice is as old as it is offensive,” Barkin told PFT by email.  “First Native peoples were forcibly removed from their lands, then they were herded onto reservations, then they were dehumanized as mascots, and now the most committed bigots of all pretend their leadership’s ancestry and heritage doesn’t even exist.  While the fact an NFL franchise is using a name that is defined as a racial slur is bigger than any one person, the nature of this attack on a respected and recognized Native American leader whose family members were killed because of their race is bigotry at its worst and shocks the conscience.”

Barkin also forwarded to PFT an excerpt from a judicial opinion in which Senior U.S. Judge Frederick Scullin, appointed to the federal bench in 1992 by President George H.W. Bush, slammed the door on ongoing attacks against Halbritter’s legitimacy as Oneida Indian Nation leader.

“Plaintiff’s argument in this regard is not only specious, it comes very close to being sanctionable,” Judge Scullin wrote.  “[T]he Department of the Interior has determined that ‘the United States unconditionally recognizes [Ray Halbritter] as the current [Oneida Indian] Nation representative’ and the [U.S. Court of Appeals for the] Second Circuit has adopted this determination.”

The NFL tells PFT that it is aware of the contentions regarding Halbritter, but that it has no comment on the issue.  The league explained that the planned meeting with Oneida Indian Nation representatives will still proceed.

Even if the effort to challenge Halbritter’s legitimacy were legitimate, the growing debate regarding the team’s name would still exist.  At its core, the challenge seems to be aimed at motivating the base, at a time when it could be getting harder and harder to continue to stubbornly support the name with a straight face.

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  1. azarkhan says: Oct 16, 2013 11:34 AM

    Sounds just like Elizabeth “Fauxcahontas” Warren, who has lied about her heritage, claiming to be Native American so she could benefit from reverse discrimination policies.

  2. overratedsteelerhater says: Oct 16, 2013 11:35 AM

    come on people,how many times were you the
    indian when your were a kid.way to many other problems to worry with this….

  3. scoops1 says: Oct 16, 2013 11:36 AM

    what does Del Redclay have to say about this….?

  4. ncsteeler says: Oct 16, 2013 11:37 AM

    As I’ve said before: change the logo to the potato – you even get to keep the song!

    Problem solved!

  5. ironhawk says: Oct 16, 2013 11:38 AM

    Ugh, Rush Limbaugh. You know you’re wrong if you are on the same side he is.

  6. brewbrostv says: Oct 16, 2013 11:39 AM

    Is it true that the NFL contingency plan is to change the Redskins name to more accurately represent the people on capital hill by adopting the name Washington Foreskins?

  7. mrbullgator says: Oct 16, 2013 11:43 AM

    Can we please just stop with all this trying to make a business man of a private company change his name that has been named the Redskins since 1932. Now all the sudden every liberal and self righteous journalist out there wants to force someone to change the name of his company. If you don’t like the name don’t like the team but to think you can have your say on a private company is beyond ridiculous!! Where has Costas, and Florio, and they guys at Deadspin been for the past 10 years on this subject? Now you wanna speak up? Please! I pray every night that Dan Snyder does not cave. Keep the name!!

  8. thestrategyexpert says: Oct 16, 2013 11:43 AM

    Just how many drops are required in the formula to qualify for heritage, and drops of what now?

    Gummiberry juice?

  9. peytonwantsaflag says: Oct 16, 2013 11:44 AM

    “at a time when it could be getting harder and harder to continue to stubbornly support the name with a straight face”
    —————————————————-

    Why? because Costas is against it?

    I’m no expert, I probably have as much native American in me as Elizabeth Warren, but isn’t Indian more offensive than Redskin?

  10. ampats says: Oct 16, 2013 11:44 AM

    Maybe the Washington Redskins should drop the word “Washington” from their name because it is embarrassing ?

  11. craigkintexas says: Oct 16, 2013 11:46 AM

    Oklahoma translates to “red person” in the Choctaw language. I’m sure someone will petition the White House to demand Oklahoma change its name! And the occupant will get on TV and recommend same.

  12. truehoosier62 says: Oct 16, 2013 11:46 AM

    I think the “Washington Traitors” would suit best in this day and age, and what person can’t really get behind a team name like that?

  13. flexx91 says: Oct 16, 2013 11:46 AM

    Unbelieveable!!! Now they are including Obama in this mess indicating that this man is working through him when all he said was basically, if enough people find “Redskins” as being racially offensive, we may have to look into this………. Then question Halbritter’s heritage without first providing proof…..

  14. aprilwalker2013 says: Oct 16, 2013 11:47 AM

    I’m a huge Redskins supporter and support keeping the name, but to think the President of US is getting people to go after the Redskins to change their name, is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard! Besides maybe that we should change our name of course! HTTR

  15. sc711 says: Oct 16, 2013 11:48 AM

    Well that just pissed off every Native American, holy smokes is this getting absurd. Just do the right thing for heavens sake.

  16. 7thehardway says: Oct 16, 2013 11:48 AM

    These days the name ‘Washington’ is more embarrassing than Redskins…

  17. jimiinpa says: Oct 16, 2013 11:49 AM

    Washington Azzhats?

  18. mn2long says: Oct 16, 2013 11:51 AM

    I love it when Rush Limbaugh provides more clear evidence that he is an idiot. How people actually take this guy seriously is beyond reason.

  19. pillowporkers says: Oct 16, 2013 11:51 AM

    This is so stupid. It’s a name. Just change it because these crazy libs will never stop until it’s changed. They have all the time in the world and they will make sure this argument never dies. I personally guarantee Dan Snyder loses this one eventually. Will opponents really feel that liberated and accomplished when the name gets changed? I doubt it. I’d feel along the lines of occupy wall street if I were them. Fact is I defend it but really, I don’t care. I just want these people to stop crying so everyone can move on with their lives. It’s just a name, and that’s how sane people view it. This won’t change the world.

  20. dlr4skins says: Oct 16, 2013 11:51 AM

    Is the song Choctaw Bingo discriminating?

  21. billsboy88 says: Oct 16, 2013 11:51 AM

    This is headed for the most commented section.

    Cue the hatred

  22. lance19 says: Oct 16, 2013 11:52 AM

    Sorry, but Ray Halbritter’s DNA is of no interest to me. The question is whether it makes sense in 2013 to use a term that offends so many. I don’t expect Snyder to care about appearing to be sensitive…but he will eventually change the name when NFL sponsors opt out of paying to advertise during “Redskin” games. He has the right to keep the name. They have the right to avoid the association.

  23. blackqbwhiterb says: Oct 16, 2013 11:53 AM

    Washington Elitists
    Washington Lobbyists
    Washington Barristers
    Washington Cronies
    Washington Crooks
    Washington Liars
    Washington Politicians
    Washington War-Mongers

    There’s plenty of appropriate names, I guess….

  24. blackandbluedivision says: Oct 16, 2013 11:53 AM

    SMH. People use statistics and minor facts to push their own agenda. Did anyone do this much research into the people they polled in that study that showed most “Native Americans” don’t find the term “Redskins” to be offensive?

  25. niquebchillin says: Oct 16, 2013 11:53 AM

    The ppl in that oneida tribe been trying to oust him since the 90′s … His views aren’t what the tribe believe … Look for that NY Times article from 96 .. I see I can t link it for some reason lol .

  26. crapsandviche says: Oct 16, 2013 11:53 AM

    After we get done with the Redskins name, we need to move on ending the Thanksgiving Day as a holiday and National tradition. To American Indians this is considered the ‘Last Supper’ before they were hunted down, tortured, herded onto reservations and forced to live in poverty. Think about it from a Native American Indian perspective. We didn’t know that helping the Pilgrims was going to be the end of our way of life. It’s insult every year Thanksgiving is celebrated in the US and Canada.

  27. manzoa says: Oct 16, 2013 11:54 AM

    It’s an issue only because some left wing whackos in the media..both sports and news…are making it an issue. This group of losers just loves to anoint victims….get over it losers. Ninety percent of people surveyed recently are neither offended by the name nor do they think Snyder should change it. Left wing morons only cite polls when they support their loony positions…clearly people do not care..and so one tribe cares and it generates this kind of attention from Florio and his left wing buddies. Let’s ask the Seminoles what they thing about Free Shoes U. using their tribe as a nickname.

  28. raidadon says: Oct 16, 2013 11:55 AM

    As an Irish descendent I’m pissin mad about Notre Dame’s mascot.tell me that don’t look like a drunken leprechaun!!!

  29. whoisrdymlz says: Oct 16, 2013 11:57 AM

    Rush Limbaugh is a racist. If you agree with anything that he says, you are too.

    Not up for debate.

  30. prideof10000lakes says: Oct 16, 2013 11:58 AM

    The Vikings were well known for pillaging and raping whole villages, and we wear their horns like the crown of gods.

    Let’s just go with the letter system or number system like in little leagues so it’s fair.

    i.e….THIS WEEK’S MNF GAME IS COMPOSED OF THE 1-4 team 1a of minnesota vs the 3b team of New York!

    That way no one is offended ever an we can kid ourselves into thinking we’re making this a better place for our kids

  31. sparty0n says: Oct 16, 2013 11:58 AM

    This is a story about politics, not football.

  32. 2jivecrew says: Oct 16, 2013 11:58 AM

    So basically they didn’t deny that Halbritter has no Onieda blood. Whether or not he’s the recognized “leader” is irrelevent to whether he is Onieda by blood.

    And we all know that Justices and their decisions are the unquestioned beacons of morality. No scandals or asenine rulings to be found. LOL.

  33. pillowporkers says: Oct 16, 2013 11:58 AM

    @carpsandviche:

    Thanksgiving offends me.

  34. lance19 says: Oct 16, 2013 11:59 AM

    For those of you that still believe that “Redskins” is just “accidentally” racist, google “George Preston Marshall” the guy who switched to the name…and read why “Marshall refused to sign African-American players”

  35. @Cereal_22 says: Oct 16, 2013 11:59 AM

    So many stubborn ignorant folks on the wrong side of history.

  36. musicman495 says: Oct 16, 2013 12:01 PM

    I would not challenge the man’s ancestry, but I do challenge his attempt to speak for all Native Americans in this matter. Someone please give those who do not oppose the name a platform to speak for themselves.

  37. realitypolice says: Oct 16, 2013 12:01 PM

    Washington Warriors.

    Sounds better anyway and you don’t have to change the logo.

    The fans aren’t going anywhere, no matter what they say now. Remember how many people said they would never watch the NFL again after the lockout?

    Yeah, right.

    You make millions selling new merchandise, and everyone praises your sensibility.

    Or you can be petulant and stubborn and let a controversy, right or wrong, dog you around for decades.

    Seems pretty simple to me, and I don’t even have a problem with the current name. I would just change it because it makes good business sense.

  38. wmelch says: Oct 16, 2013 12:01 PM

    dlr4skins says:Oct 16, 2013 11:51 AM

    Is the song Choctaw Bingo discriminating?

    Excellent James Mcmurtry reference. Let’s start a discussion of his songs rather than this tripe.

  39. steelnucs says: Oct 16, 2013 12:02 PM

    @pillowporkers –

    Best post ever on this topic. The whole thing is idiocy.

  40. Darkoestrada says: Oct 16, 2013 12:02 PM

    When you have no logical argument against an idea, all you can do is attack the one delivering the message. It’s not surprising people would attack halbritter because there’s no other way to defend a slur like redskin without sounding ignorant or sounding like a bigot.

  41. niquebchillin says: Oct 16, 2013 12:02 PM

    That NY Times article from June 17 1996 … worth a google ..speaks on this subject and the real problem ..

  42. fground says: Oct 16, 2013 12:03 PM

    This is a done deal – the name will change in the next year or so. Why?

    Because, there is money in changing the name. The backlash will be there because there is a large number of simplistic intolerant types that will kick up a fuss, but it would be short lived because it is racist, ignorant and not worth fighting for any way ….it’s stupid nickname for a football team for gosh sake.

    It would be one of the most talked about new branding exercises in business – which will generate enormous revenue.

    Holding out for some backwards notion of rights to be racists and simpletons will never stand up to $$$$$

  43. skybox22blog says: Oct 16, 2013 12:03 PM

    Gotta love these idiot liberals. Redskins is offensive yet killing and taking their land is not. Give back their land. To think Obama is not for the name change is idiotic. The guy is a monster, haven’t you seen that already. Dang, the guy has been a disaster since day one.

  44. outlawjerseywhales says: Oct 16, 2013 12:04 PM

    The name is never going to change despite your phony hunt for a “legacy”.
    But maybe you can get Ray to whip up some heap-big medicine to cure your hair!

  45. crapsandviche says: Oct 16, 2013 12:05 PM

    @pillowporkers It was a bit of sarcasm.

    I’ll bet you this though…..once the Redskins change their names, watch how long it takes the Oneida Nation to file a lawsuit for damages. This has very little to do with the name being offensive and more to do with $$$$.

  46. pkrjones says: Oct 16, 2013 12:06 PM

    Once Snyder is strong-armed into changing the team name the left-wing agenda will focus on changing:
    Raiders
    Buccaneers
    Vikings
    Chiefs
    Giants (because big people are offended)
    and throw in the Titans because there is only one god – Obama.

  47. Darkoestrada says: Oct 16, 2013 12:09 PM

    I really don’t understand the heated defense of the name by some people. What is the harm in changing it? I went to a college that changed their name from the Indians (which is basically a term of endearment compared to redskin) and it affected my life in exactly no way at all.

  48. nyyjetsknicks says: Oct 16, 2013 12:10 PM

    mrbullgator says:
    Oct 16, 2013 11:43 AM
    Can we please just stop with all this trying to make a business man of a private company change his name that has been named the Redskins since 1932. Now all the sudden every liberal and self righteous journalist out there wants to force someone to change the name of his company. If you don’t like the name don’t like the team but to think you can have your say on a private company is beyond ridiculous!! Where has Costas, and Florio, and they guys at Deadspin been for the past 10 years on this subject? Now you wanna speak up? Please! I pray every night that Dan Snyder does not cave. Keep the name!!

    ________________

    I totally agree. We also need to bring back slave. We had them since the beginning of time. I don’t get why we needed the change…

  49. pillowporkers says: Oct 16, 2013 12:12 PM

    @carpsandviche:

    ha me too I agree with you. This whole thing has turned political. In that respect I hope Dan doesn’t lose any money over this. For however many year the world went on day by day with this name. Now some have made it a personal vendetta to write 4 stories per day to make sure this abomination is ended. I just would rather shove it in these crazy liberals faces and say fine you win, we changed the name. Do you feel better now? They will say “absoluletly i feel great that, now it’s on to the next thing to whine and cry about in our world.”

  50. geniusry says: Oct 16, 2013 12:12 PM

    Thumbs up: Supports name staying the same
    Thumbs down: Supports name change

  51. nyyjetsknicks says: Oct 16, 2013 12:14 PM

    pkrjones says:
    Oct 16, 2013 12:06 PM
    Once Snyder is strong-armed into changing the team name the left-wing agenda will focus on changing:
    Raiders
    Buccaneers
    Vikings
    Chiefs
    Giants (because big people are offended)
    and throw in the Titans because there is only one god – Obama.

    _______________

    The typical right wing slippery slope argument. Gay marriage is now legal in NY. I don’t see people trying to change laws to marry animals. I thought that was the next step.

    Pro tip: Change isn’t a bad thing. It’s how we as a society advance.

  52. Andre's Johnson says: Oct 16, 2013 12:15 PM

    Darkoestrada said “Indians (which is basically a term of endearment compared to redskin)…”

    # # # # #

    You must be joking.

  53. jacktheraven says: Oct 16, 2013 12:15 PM

    Good point pkrjones. What about all the animal mascots and logos? Bears, Lions, Ravens, etc. Shouldn’t animal rights activists want those names changed too?

  54. sc711 says: Oct 16, 2013 12:16 PM

    The Oneida clan mothers pick the leaders (plural), he is the last an standing, since 1975 the clan mothers have been OK or they would have added more leadership.
    He is Harvard graduate, done alot of good for tribe and Native Americans, sounds like clan moms knew what they were doing.

  55. damcmp says: Oct 16, 2013 12:16 PM

    Oneida Indian Nation…..Not Apache, Commanche, Navajo, Cherokee, Seminole, Mohigans,Mohawks, Cree, Sioux or Pawnee….
    They sound like a cleaning product and were probably setup just to start a Casino in upstated
    NUYAWK!

  56. jimbo75025 says: Oct 16, 2013 12:17 PM

    dlr4skins says:
    Oct 16, 2013 11:51 AM
    Is the song Choctaw Bingo discriminating?
    ————

    Today, I will begin my protest movement demanding that Europe change the name of their 80′ song Cherokee to something more politically correct. My group demands that as part of this protest that “The Final Countdown” (also by Europe) is not played prior to sporting events until name of said song is changed.

  57. dpj1022 says: Oct 16, 2013 12:18 PM

    Thanks to Florio for publicizing the fact that Halbritter is a fraud. I hadn’t seen the Daily Caller report.

  58. assuredmutualdestruction says: Oct 16, 2013 12:21 PM

    Oh my freaking god! I am so on the bandwagon to get rid of Thanksgiving too. That is about the most racist holiday there is. Might as well have a holiday that celebrates all the money slaves made rich plantation owners as well. Isn’t that the equivalent?

  59. wearethesteelers says: Oct 16, 2013 12:22 PM

    The Washington Corruption.

  60. nyyjetsknicks says: Oct 16, 2013 12:24 PM

    jacktheraven says:
    Oct 16, 2013 12:15 PM
    Good point pkrjones. What about all the animal mascots and logos? Bears, Lions, Ravens, etc. Shouldn’t animal rights activists want those names changed too?

    ________________________
    Let me help you out. Those are names of animals. No one is calming any of those words are offense. Now let’s go to Webster’s dictionary and see what they say about the word “redskins”:

    Main Entry: red·skin
    Pronunciation: \ˈred-ˌskin\
    Function: noun
    Date: 1699
    usually offensive : american indian

  61. sc711 says: Oct 16, 2013 12:24 PM

    NFL would rather meet Ray than clans mothers, but I think they will be there now, you might just see Ray not utter a word, he wont have to.

  62. resilientcubsfan says: Oct 16, 2013 12:25 PM

    Ad hominem, much?

  63. cobaltdriver says: Oct 16, 2013 12:26 PM

    This is just another pinko farce to distract people from what’s really going on in this country. Hey Zombies..turn off the TV and the video games and educate yourselves, listen learn and see for yourself whats going on…..there is more to life than football..and Obdumbass needs to stay out of trivial things like this too…..we should be trying to oust all the “leadership” in DC..term limits for EVERYONE

  64. wiley16350 says: Oct 16, 2013 12:26 PM

    For those of you that still believe that “Redskins” is just “accidentally” racist, google “George Preston Marshall” the guy who switched to the name…and read why “Marshall refused to sign African-American players”
    ____________________________________
    We all know that Marshall was racist against African Americans. That doesn’t mean he hated Native Americans. It is not a reality to say; if a person hates one race he hates all races. A person can in fact like all but one race or hate all but his own race or hate a few and like a few. The fact is that Marshall hired a Native American to be his coach and then changed the team name to Redskins. Apparently you believed he changed the name as a joke and to purposely make fun of Native Americans. Do you think he wanted his team to be a joke or his team to be looked poorly upon? What sense does it make for a guy to name his own team in a mocking way? Usually, a team name is adopted to present a positive image and not a negative one.

  65. billsdiehard says: Oct 16, 2013 12:26 PM

    So with the Redskins name change and others to follow, the only way we’ll be reminded of the America-Indian heritage is via Casinos and Discount Cigarettes?

  66. thelastpieceofcheese says: Oct 16, 2013 12:27 PM

    Only the whacko left wing lunatic fringe is offended by the REDSKINS name!

  67. pleazenufalready says: Oct 16, 2013 12:27 PM

    Just further proof that ANYONE who listens to Limbaugh for anything other than a good laugh, is a complete f-ing moron

  68. foreverbeachflorida says: Oct 16, 2013 12:27 PM

    Okay got it – change to Washington Whiteskins – unlike others we’re proud of our skin color. Or as Larry Bird once responded to Isiah Thomas, “I have no idea what he’s talking about, I’m very glad I’m white.” Touche.

  69. shotgunformation5wide says: Oct 16, 2013 12:28 PM

    Boston had previously been home to several NFL teams. The first was the Boston Bulldogs, which lasted only one season (1929). They were followed by the Boston Braves/Redskins, from 1932 to 1936.

    During the Boston Tea Party, a group of “Patriots” known as the Sons of Liberty dressed as Mohawk Indians, dumped England’s tea in the harbor.

    I’m wondering if the brownish paint gave them a “Reddish” skin appearance … henceforth Redskins to eventually the Patriots.

    How about the Washington Sons of Liberty!?!? Jus sayin’.

  70. sidepull says: Oct 16, 2013 12:28 PM

    Here is a key. Go unlock the cage door and quit reading this propaganda. When you see it in the title just pass it by in the same manner as you would find it pointless to argue with a drunk. These articles are written by fanatical left wing hypocrites who have never done anything for an American Indian in their life. If the name were to get changed they would move on and still do nothing about the poverty, lack of education, drug addiction and alcoholism. Leave them to their conversation. That is the worst thing you can do to them. Ignore them.
    I have written this suggestion before and in different ways as I feel my point is that they are hypocrites. Each time it gets deleted.

  71. gammynomnom says: Oct 16, 2013 12:28 PM

    well, that decides it. once rush limbaugh defends the name, it is definitely racist.

  72. r81ders says: Oct 16, 2013 12:30 PM

    Okay what i dont understand is they got a group of indians called NAVAJOS (means thiefs) because they where giving that name back in the day from the white man, why is nobody of there people making or have not even changed that name amoung them selfs ??? go on youtube look up Gallup, NM they even pride them selfs as a NAVAJO. Dont we as AMERICANS help them out pretty good, dont bite the hand that feeds you.

  73. wiley16350 says: Oct 16, 2013 12:31 PM

    The Redskins should just get rid of the current logo. Change back to the R logo and get rid of all references to Native Americans. Then, nobody can complain because the only people being referred to as Redskins is the team itself.

  74. thegreatgabbert says: Oct 16, 2013 12:33 PM

    Ray denied being a crony or sidekick of Obama. “I just call him ‘Kemo Sabe’ for fun…”.

  75. thegreatgabbert says: Oct 16, 2013 12:35 PM

    At least Ray is willing to dress up in suede and a ribbon tie. That’s about as close to a legitimate Native American as you find these days.

  76. lance19 says: Oct 16, 2013 12:37 PM

    So, sidepull, are you saying that it’s offensive that some people type that they approve of a name change, but not offensive that others type that they don’t approve of a name change? Wow.

  77. 63deuceman says: Oct 16, 2013 12:40 PM

    crapsandviche says:
    Oct 16, 2013 11:53 AM

    “After we get done with the Redskins name, we need to move on ending the Thanksgiving Day as a holiday and National tradition. To American Indians this is considered the ‘Last Supper’ before they were hunted down, tortured, herded onto reservations and forced to live in poverty. Think about it from a Native American Indian perspective. We didn’t know that helping the Pilgrims was going to be the end of our way of life. It’s insult every year Thanksgiving is celebrated in the US and Canada.”

    The word “perspective” is interesting and key here. If we all used perspective and learned that what you feel isn’t 100% fact, there would be a lot less tension in the world.

    For exapmple, I’ve been taught that Thanksgiving was Pilgrims and Native Americans giving thanks to their life in this country. I’ve never looked at it from “crapsandvich’s” perpective of it being the Native American’s last supper. Fair point.

    However Mr. Crapsandviche, please respect the perspective that most Americans look at Thanksgiving as nothing more than a 4-day weekend, a time for family gatherings, and the start of the holiday shopping season – nothing more. Are you willing to put a stop to a traditional 4-day weekend for millions of hard-working folks?

  78. king666kaiser says: Oct 16, 2013 12:41 PM

    You guys dont get why it matters? for shame…

    Understand that if they are successful in forcing this name change it will start a landslide of similar actions. The use of the word Redskins as a team name wasnt designed to be offensive anymore than the Bengals where ment to offend peta. they painted their bodies red to instill fear in their enemys a quality a football would like.

    If they force this name change because a few people are offended.. Then we need to get rid of everything and anything that offends even 1 single person.. because this country is too soft to handle being offended.

    All holidays the christian regilion has stolen from the “pagans” offended me.. and guess what thats every single one of them.. we need to get rid of christmas easter thanksgiving and all the rest and especially columbus day.

    But it wont stop there.. After that words will be outlawed extra.. Having the Redskins name as a team name is his right as a right to free speach…

    Please provide one example outside of movies where the term Redskin was used to offend someone in the last century.

  79. dontbsuchapuss says: Oct 16, 2013 12:41 PM

    Here is an idea get over it if it offends you ignore it. Who cares about a bunch whinny morons trying to put their feelings and beliefs ahead of everyone else’s. It’s funny how all if a sudden it’s an issue now.

  80. ufanforreal says: Oct 16, 2013 12:41 PM

    pillowporkers says: Oct 16, 2013 11:58 AM

    @carpsandviche:

    Thanksgiving offends me.
    ——————————————————
    Then don’t celebrate it……it’s people like you that keeps sheet like this going, and yes I do have native blood and unlike many I can prove it.

  81. bengals69 says: Oct 16, 2013 12:41 PM

    I suggests any of these:
    the Washington Frauds
    the Washington Bureaucrats
    the Washington grifters
    the Washington OG’s
    the Washington Lobbyists

    This organized attack on Synder is the leftwing noise machine in full throat with the execrable Bob Coastas as the master of ceremony. I’m guessing Synder didn’t pay off enough leftwing organizations and politicans and this is their retaliation. For the left it is always payback via shake down.

  82. duece5 says: Oct 16, 2013 12:42 PM

    blackandbluedivision says: Oct 16, 2013 11:53 AM

    SMH. People use statistics and minor facts to push their own agenda. Did anyone do this much research into the people they polled in that study that showed most “Native Americans” don’t find the term “Redskins” to be offensive?

    duece5 says:

    Well blackandblue, that would make too much sense!
    It would be FAIR too.

    But, the libs that are in Washington and the media are offended….don’t you understand….that’s what matters the most (sarc)!!!

  83. tfbuckfutter says: Oct 16, 2013 12:47 PM

    In “honor” of the new face of the franchise there is only one logical solution. The Washington Blackfaces.

    Everyone good with that?

  84. bauldrdash says: Oct 16, 2013 12:47 PM

    I thought “Redskins” refers to coach Mike Shannahan A.K.A. “The Red Lobster”.

  85. finsguy says: Oct 16, 2013 12:49 PM

    I grew up on the Sisseton-Wahpeton reservation in NE South Dakota. I can tell you that actual “Redskins” not only don’t find the name offensive, it is their favorite team, almost without exception.

    This guy is a professional agitator trying and succeeding in making money in the grievance industry. We had this same problem in ND when the NCAA forced us to changed the UND “Fighting Sioux” despite the widespread popular support of actual natives living in ND due to a couple of elected tribal members overruling the will of their tribe who supported the name in very wide margins.

  86. tformation says: Oct 16, 2013 12:49 PM

    Anyone surprised by this? YOU SHOULDN’T BE.

    Never give an inch to the race hustlers. NOT AN INCH.

  87. bick54 says: Oct 16, 2013 12:50 PM

    So let me get this straight…it’s OK to name rivers, cities and street names after Indians, but not teams.

    There sure are a lot of people with nothing to do.

  88. lance19 says: Oct 16, 2013 12:50 PM

    Wiley, you say “We all know that Marshall was racist against African Americans.” Really?
    I do. Now you do. Do you really think that so many people would be defending the name as
    a “compliment” to Native-Americans if they knew what an ugly racist George Preston Marshall was, the guy who selected “Redskins” ?
    I don’t claim to know what was in Marshall’s racist head when he chose the new name…but in 2013 I think most people are trying to distance ourselves from past racism. To assume that an avowed racist selected an ethnic slur as a “compliment” is possible…but seems like a stretch.

  89. hartz says: Oct 16, 2013 12:51 PM

    I don’t understand why people don’t understand this is an issue… I’ve heard two main arguments so far. One is, “ it’s been that name for so long why change it now?” And two, “ the name isn’t that bad I’ve never met a Native American that’s had a problem with it.”

    First, the name ‘Redskin’ is a racial slur and to some Native Americans it’s as bad as other racial slurs such as the infamous N-word. It’s something that cuts deep and is hurtful to them, not to mention it’s disrespectful. Asking why change after all these years is like asking why we give up slavery after all those years. Because it’s the right and moral think to do…!?!?

    Second, if you don’t have a problem with the name or you’ve met other Native Americans that don’t. It doesn’t matter it’s not affecting you, and I guess it’s not affecting your Native American “friends.” It’s affecting the Native American people that care about their heritage and have a problem with it! So no one cares about your opinion… It’s a football team does it really matter what the name of it is called? If there’s better things to argue about (which there are) and it doesn’t or shouldn’t matter what the freaking name is, why not just change it to make those who do have a problem with it feel better?

    As a fan I think it would be awesome to see a new logo and jersey for my team. People are too afraid of change and too ignorant of the past.

  90. richiebburg says: Oct 16, 2013 12:52 PM

    A. He looks pretty native American to me.
    B. I find the city of Washington offensive so when the name change happens I would prefer to just name the team the Landover _________, because the team is in Landover anyways.
    C. Redskin is an offensive name. Face it. If a team were named the Baltimore Negroes, the name would already be changed

  91. bucsducksipa says: Oct 16, 2013 12:54 PM

    A suggestion from a Native American. I once was inclined to sanction Washington’s tacit veneration of Native Americans. Until it was unequivocally proven by the vast majority of comments on the subject, that not only does the name not honor them, in fact, it mocks everything noble about our heritage. The latent racism demonstrated by those supporting the status quo is the compelling factor here. The feigned reverence, the specious arguments, the self righteous indignity all point to one simple, overwhelming, fact. Racism is alive and well in this country and there are those all to willing to encourage and advocate for this malignancy. Look no further than the comments that stray from this issue to trot out their political views.

  92. nyyjetsknicks says: Oct 16, 2013 12:54 PM

    king666kaiser says:
    Oct 16, 2013 12:41 PM
    You guys dont get why it matters? for shame…

    Understand that if they are successful in forcing this name change it will start a landslide of similar actions. The use of the word Redskins as a team name wasnt designed to be offensive anymore than the Bengals where ment to offend peta. they painted their bodies red to instill fear in their enemys a quality a football would like.

    If they force this name change because a few people are offended.. Then we need to get rid of everything and anything that offends even 1 single person.. because this country is too soft to handle being

    _________________

    No one has mentioned the Bengals change their name. There is nothing offensive about the name of an animal. Can you find PETA or another group that wants the name changed? No!

  93. nyyjetsknicks says: Oct 16, 2013 12:55 PM

    tformation says:
    Oct 16, 2013 12:49 PM
    Anyone surprised by this? YOU SHOULDN’T BE.

    Never give an inch to the race hustlers. NOT AN INCH.

    _____________

    The tea party thanks you for your vote.

  94. broncobrewer says: Oct 16, 2013 12:56 PM

    Changing the name to Maryland Redskins and everyone will be happy. No one wants to be known as Washington DC anything.

  95. slugdc says: Oct 16, 2013 12:57 PM

    “Oneida Indian Nation” the COMPANY does not equal Oneida Nation the TRIBE. Halbritter is head of the former, not the latter. He was ousted as a chief by the tribe, but for some reason remained recognized federally. Halbritter speaks for the COMPANY, not the tribe. He is a fraud and the media is either blind to or abusing the fact that the corporation and tribe share the Oneida name.

  96. wiley16350 says: Oct 16, 2013 12:58 PM

    I highly doubt that this will end if the Redskins where to change their name. Ultimately, this group wants all references to Native Americans removed from modern society (see past lawsuits). They will want all teams that refer to Native Americans to stop using those nicknames because they feel as though it portrays them as non-existent in today’s society and portrays them as caricatures. The ironic thing is the only recognition many people have that they do still exist is because of these teams. I have very rarely met or talked to a full blooded indian (if ever), i’m sure many people have that same experience I have. If they remove themselves completely from modern society, their will be many kids that grow up not knowing that indians still remain. I also find it odd that they want to remove references of their heritage from society. Do they really think that would make their ancestors proud. It’s almost like they’re ashamed of their past.

  97. nflpoker says: Oct 16, 2013 12:59 PM

    What is more offensive, the name “Redskins” or the logo that goes with the name? If that logo didn’t exist, you probably wouldn’t have heard people having such a problem with the name. I would say the logo.

    The name will probably change. MONEY and how it affects Snyder’s bottom line in particular will eventually determine that. Besides, Goodell sooner or later will want to get involved.

  98. 1bigtex says: Oct 16, 2013 12:59 PM

    Well thank goodness that Rush Limbaugh has decided to join the debate. What better moral compass could we have than a dropout, thrice divorced, hypocritical, drug addict?

    Who you chose to follow says a great deal about who you are.

  99. clickablecontent says: Oct 16, 2013 1:03 PM

    I’m disgusted at this and by some of the comments on this board. Racism is alive and well in America.

  100. gbearc says: Oct 16, 2013 1:05 PM

    ‘What better moral compass could we have than a dropout, thrice divorced, hypocritical, drug addict?’

    Sounds like every Kennedy to run for office since JFK.

  101. bengals69 says: Oct 16, 2013 1:08 PM

    I’m pretty sure for the last 40 years when people said “Washington Redskins” during football season and draft day(s), not one single soul was thinking a racist thought. The term Redskin was sanitized into nothingness, much like the N-word means nothing among blacks talking amongst themselves who refer to each other with that term, they don’t think of any connotations of Jim Crow, slavery,etc. Its just a word to them.

    This whole windy exercise is nothing more than a shake down tactic to get something from Dan Synder. Pay off the right people and the problem goes away.

  102. lance19 says: Oct 16, 2013 1:10 PM

    There’s two aspects of this issue that amuse me.

    1) A large number of people brashly attack “the left” for this. Really? Giving a damn about racial slurs is the exclusive domain of “liberals” now? Wow. What does that imply about the Right?

    2) When the name is eventually changed (I don’t expect it will be soon) it will not be because of “political correctness”…it will be good ol’ fashioned free market capitalism. The “Redskins” brand will become increasingly controversial & fall from favor AND ownership will see the profit in selling tons of new merchandise.

  103. 2jivecrew says: Oct 16, 2013 1:11 PM

    I don’t claim to know what was in Marshall’s racist head when he chose the new name…but in 2013 I think most people are trying to distance ourselves from past racism. To assume that an avowed racist selected an ethnic slur as a “compliment” is possible…but seems like a stretch.

    ————————

    And a much bigger stretch would be to say that he based the identity and marketability of his team on something he supposedly hated.

  104. Grulks says: Oct 16, 2013 1:15 PM

    Let me get this straight:
    White people pushed Native Americans out west, then pushed them onto reservations, then decimated and oprressed them.

    And then they want to say that a guy recognized by Native Oneida American’s to lead their people, isn’t legitimate because he doesn’t have Oneida blood in him?

    Hrm, maybe white people shouldn’t have any say whatsover about a people they have directly and continually mistreated in the most shameful of ways.

  105. theverifiedtruth says: Oct 16, 2013 1:18 PM

    Really? People are attacking this guy? Haven’t white people done enough to Native American’s???!

  106. harrisonhits2 says: Oct 16, 2013 1:21 PM

    While I think the name should be changed, I also think they should reward the politicians pushing for the change appropriately.

    Please welcome the Washington Corruption to the playing field !

  107. rgtre10 says: Oct 16, 2013 1:22 PM

    If I may…you know there are those offended by Democrats and those offended by Republicans and the Tea Party etc.,

    There were both sides offended by Obama and those offended by Romney, but you know what it went a vote of the people and the people decided.

    Seriously i’m of Native American heritage and i’m not offended at all, and find the entire argment stupid, any native american knows we are not red skinned, yes our ancestors painted themselves red with was called war paint. I find this entire skin color make up rather idiotic since we aren’t really red, whites aren’t really white, blacks aren’t really black, you get my point. There are far more important issues to debate and or fight for this is not one of them.

  108. ducknichols50 says: Oct 16, 2013 1:22 PM

    Are you kidding?

    the Oneida Indian Nation? Dont they realize it should be called the Oneida Native American Nation?

    unreal.

  109. jpmelon says: Oct 16, 2013 1:23 PM

    If you don’t like it, stop watching the games. It’s literally that simple. There are plenty of things in this world that offend me. I show my displeasure with them by not giving money to them. It’s a win-win; the country remains free and I don’t have to support something I dislike. What don’t these losers understand……FYI, I personally have no trouble saying I support the Redskins keeping their name with a straight face. I think people who find the name offensive need to look up the word “context” in the dictionary. It’s not meant to offend anyone; and just because some crybabies are offended doesn’t mean that they deserve to get what they want.

  110. briscocountyjr says: Oct 16, 2013 1:30 PM

    skybox22blog says:
    Oct 16, 2013 12:03 PM

    “Gotta love these idiot liberals. Redskins is offensive yet killing and taking their land is not. Give back their land. To think Obama is not for the name change is idiotic. The guy is a monster, haven’t you seen that already. Dang, the guy has been a disaster since day one.”
    __________________________

    You’re not the only one, but I detest throwing political labels around (i.e. liberals, left-wing, conservative, etc..). It’s just plain dumb– that labeling system is completely useless for intelligent conversation and I wish people would wake up out of that.

    I do like your point in the second sentence- “Redskins is offensive yet killing and taking their land is not. Give back their land.” That is the most underrated view in this whole topic. People can whisk this subject out of the way all they want, but I value this topic, if for nothing else, to be possibly steered toward seeing the history of Native American culture. First Nation people have been pushed out of view through ethnic cleansing and there’s a reason there’s little in our education history lessons about it.

  111. filthymcnasty1 says: Oct 16, 2013 1:39 PM

    I had no idea that Dan Snyder has been “dehumanizing” these poor folks – whatever that is.

    It sounds very naughty, and he should stop that this instant.

  112. rgtre10 says: Oct 16, 2013 1:41 PM

    We were sitting around watching TV one of my favorites is the western channel on Encore, now what offends me about these westerns is they have white’s playing parts of my people…not only that they stunk at the party and spoke as if we were some primitive type, or they’d have a white man playing an Indian who seemed very well versed in the white man’s tongue…for example the movie Geronimo with Chuck Conners…please I know him as the rifleman which i love, but his role as Geronimo was offensive. Now i’m more offended by these caricature’s then by name Redskins, it just isn’t my people but watching Bonanza one day I see they have Marlo Thomas playing the role of Chinese woman again poorly done and should be offensive to Chinese Americans.

  113. bengals69 says: Oct 16, 2013 1:45 PM

    The only offense given in all of this is by Dan Synder. He offended someone in DC. The fact that Obama got involved was designed to encourage the feeble minded to jump in, like Bob Costas.

    As for the racists here telling white people to remember the horrors of our past, well don’t look in the mirror pal. Africans have continued to inflict horrors on Africans..google Tutsi’s and Hutu’s or Boko Harum. Native Americans slaughtered each other long before the Europeans landed. Indian tribes allied themselves with the Euro’s just so they could slaughter their enemy tribes. Please Child.

  114. lance19 says: Oct 16, 2013 1:45 PM

    I agree that there “are far more important issues to debate and or fight for.”

    But does that mean that we shouldn’t be talking about it? Or reading articles? Or posting? Maybe I don’t understand the theory of reading articles and posting responses…that imply that we shouldn’t be reading articles and posting responses.

    p.s. Guys, the “redskin potato” joke has been done 14,791 times so far…please, please find new material…

  115. mngophers8 says: Oct 16, 2013 1:48 PM

    I like the idea of changing the name to “Washington Warriors”. Also the talk about groups going after Vikings, Raiders, Lions, Bears etc. names is just silly. The name “redskins” is offensive.

  116. lance19 says: Oct 16, 2013 1:49 PM

    2jivecrew– Actually, I think most mascot names have traditionally been chosen to put FEAR in opponents. And, considering the very real history of this country, that would make sense in this case, too. Especially for an individual who feared people that were not like himself.

  117. crapsandviche says: Oct 16, 2013 1:54 PM

    Mr. 63deuceman, ehem, I apologize that you didn’t pick up on my sarcasm satire..

  118. kevpft says: Oct 16, 2013 1:58 PM

    And, as the layers get peeled back one by one, we start to see the racism, white exceptionalism, and post-genocide defensiveness and anxiety come into view.

    I’m a white guy who’s loved football all his life, but the time has come. There’s no reasonable defense for the name.

    If you wouldn’t call a real person by the name to their face, you shouldn’t make it your mascot.

  119. bjsdad says: Oct 16, 2013 1:58 PM

    Next up are the “cowboys”. I overheard a group of farmers talking, saying the cowboys give their cows a bad name!!!!

  120. sbchampsagain says: Oct 16, 2013 2:09 PM

    Ruh roh.

    Obama wants this as his “signature” legislation. Dan Snyder best step aside.

    #1-4recordisracistnamekarma

  121. jrc007 says: Oct 16, 2013 2:11 PM

    First, it’s inaccurate to suggest the “Daily Caller also characterized Halbritter as ‘an Obama crony who is raking in casino money and paying back only small stipends to his tribe members.’” The Daily Caller was merely quoting New York Assemblywoman Claudia Tenney. It would be akin to another website stating PFT charachterized John Fox as having a “negative agenda” when PFT merely quoted Jim Irsay as saying that.

    Second, there’s nothing inconsistent about The Daily Caller’s article noting that Halbritter is not an Oneida member and a Judge’s opinion noting Halbritter is recognized as the representative of the Oneida Nation. He can both be recognized as the representative, and not an Oneida tribe member. I suppose they can pick whoever they want to represent them, but nothing in that opinion contradicts the article. Nor does anything in the Oneida Nations’ statement for that matter.

    Third, Halbritter has a pretty long and questionable history as representative of the Oneida Nation, which anyone can find with a little googling. His name shows up in multiple lawsuits questioning his legitimacy so this is not a new contention. He’s a politician more than anything, not some sainted mouthpiece for all Native Americans.

  122. rabiddawg19 says: Oct 16, 2013 2:12 PM

    it’s. not. racist. the native americans came up with the term themselves. this chucklehead doesn’t know his own people’s history. it’d be like nordic people being angry about the term viking.

    let me repeat for the cheap seats: THEY CAME UP WITH AND USED THE TERM ON THEIR OWN. spelled out very clear throughout the history of the term…nothing to see here, move on.

  123. asherallencanttackle says: Oct 16, 2013 2:19 PM

    Why can’t people have a discussion about a legitimate topic without referring to Obama, left wing commies, right wing fascists, etc. It demeans your argument and your point of view. Personally I don’t care that much but I can see how that name would offend people. Would a new team be called the Blackskins, the Brownskins, the Yellowskins or the Whiteskins today? How about the Whitebreads, the Peckerwoods or the Honkies? I doubt it.

  124. trashymenace says: Oct 16, 2013 2:26 PM

    Oneida Indian Nation should change their name to Oneida Native American Nation.

    The term Indian is offensive to many Native Americans.

  125. nyyjetsknicks says: Oct 16, 2013 2:33 PM

    rabiddawg19 says:
    Oct 16, 2013 2:12 PM
    it’s. not. racist. the native americans came up with the term themselves. this chucklehead doesn’t know his own people’s history. it’d be like nordic people being angry about the term viking.

    let me repeat for the cheap seats: THEY CAME UP WITH AND USED THE TERM ON THEIR OWN. spelled out very clear throughout the history of the term…nothing to see here, move on.

    __________________

    As already been posted, here’s what it says in Webster’s dictionary:

    Main Entry: red·skin
    Pronunciation: \ˈred-ˌskin\
    Function: noun
    Date: 1699
    usually offensive : american indian

    Webster’s dictionary contains facts and we all know how facts have a liberal bias.

  126. rabiddawg19 says: Oct 16, 2013 2:47 PM

    nyyjetsknicks:

    look up and read Ives Goddard’s “I Am A Red-Skin” and you tell me if Webster’s definition in this case is a little too simplistic. i don’t know about you, but i tend to go with the guy who is the curator and senior linguist in the Department of Anthropology, National Museum of Natural History, Smithsonian Institution.

  127. nyyjetsknicks says: Oct 16, 2013 3:04 PM

    rabiddawg19 says:
    Oct 16, 2013 2:47 PM
    nyyjetsknicks:

    look up and read Ives Goddard’s “I Am A Red-Skin” and you tell me if Webster’s definition in this case is a little too simplistic. i don’t know about you, but i tend to go with the guy who is the curator and senior linguist in the Department of Anthropology, National Museum of Natural History, Smithsonian Institution.

    ______________

    I found it. It’s 16 “pages” on my iPhone. I don’t have the time now but I’ll read it tonight.

  128. rabiddawg19 says: Oct 16, 2013 3:14 PM

    it’s a good read. essentially, the way i read this, it’s people of another color coming up with a new way to refer to themselves collectively and as a way to distinguish themselves from others, using it for years (hundreds in fact) then at some point, a small faction become offended by this already established moniker and deem it racist…even though they came up with it in the first place. it’s just strange to be honest.

  129. mibengal says: Oct 16, 2013 3:19 PM

    “So let me get this straight…it’s OK to name rivers, cities and street names after Indians, but not teams.”

    “Redskins” is NOT an Indian name. It’s a racial slur. Mohawk, Choctaw, Seminol, etc. are Indian names.
    Souix Falls, South Dakota, Osage River. Winnebago Street.

  130. thejimthorpejamsession says: Oct 16, 2013 3:20 PM

    Observations:

    1) It’s understandable that the moniker “Redskins” can be viewed as outdated and offensive and that people would like to see a change.

    2) It’s unclear to me why the Oneida organization/tribe has their input treated as though the term “Redskins” is meant to imply or relate to them and only them. They are an Iroquois-related, more NY-based tribe than anything else. Why isn’t a tribe that was/is based in the DC area being asked about this and getting involved? We don’t hear from other tribes about this topic and only Oneida seems to speak out about this and that only their statement is desired. Where’s the input from other tribes, especially those in and around DC? I’d like to hear other tribes input on this matter.

  131. thetruthcampaign says: Oct 16, 2013 3:34 PM

    Change the name.

  132. ivanpavlov0000 says: Oct 16, 2013 4:12 PM

    This act of desperation shows that the “Redskins” supporters are in their death throws.

  133. granadafan says: Oct 16, 2013 4:21 PM

    mibengal says: Oct 16, 2013 3:19 PM
    “So let me get this straight…it’s OK to name rivers, cities and street names after Indians, but not teams.”
    ===============================================

    Uh, you COMPLETELEY missed the point. Do you know the difference between a name and a slur? Please tell us you know the difference, otherwise we’re wasting our time.

  134. onbucky96 says: Oct 16, 2013 4:22 PM

    Wonder if this would be an issue if RGIII weren’t in Washington…

  135. lance19 says: Oct 16, 2013 4:25 PM

    jrc007, I think the problem isn’t so much how
    Halbritter is being characterized, but the transparent attempt to make it about HIM…
    of course, the real issue, is “is this an appropriate term to use in 2013?”
    That some people would prefer to instead focus on Halbritter suggests that they’ve calculated that he’s a convenient straw man. If others will just play along. Personally, Halbritter is no factor in this equation for me.

  136. charger383 says: Oct 16, 2013 4:58 PM

    No not change the name

  137. jvseahawk says: Oct 16, 2013 10:02 PM

    It’s only gaining traction in your mind.

  138. billsdiehard says: Oct 17, 2013 7:30 AM

    I would think Florida State Seminoles logo would be more offensive as it’s an Indian with war paint. I’m not defending the Redskins but I think this issue goes beyond their name.

  139. 63deuceman says: Oct 17, 2013 3:02 PM

    “Mr. 63deuceman, ehem, I apologize that you didn’t pick up on my sarcasm satire..”

    @crapsandvich – I totally missed that that was satire. No need for apologies.

    But the larger point remains – we’d be a lot less angry if we all learned to differentiate our OPINIONS from FACTS.

    For example:

    “The starting quarterback for Green Bay in 2012 was Aaron Rodgers” This is a fact, as it is 100% indisputable.

    The name “Redskins” in the context of the professional football team is offensive”. This is an opinion, which is evident in the responses to this article. Both sides can support the case with evidence.

  140. defscottyb says: Oct 18, 2013 6:43 AM

    billsdiehard says: Oct 17, 2013 7:30 AM

    I would think Florida State Seminoles logo would be more offensive as it’s an Indian with war paint. I’m not defending the Redskins but I think this issue goes beyond their name.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Yes, it most definitely goes beyond the name… It’s all about MONEY. The Seminole Tribe in Florida USED TO BE “offended” but that all vanished once Florida State put the Seminole Tribe on their payroll… No more problem, imagine that. Same thing with Halbritter, if Dan Snyder builds the new casino they want all of their problems with the name will magically vanish too.

  141. bcgreg says: Oct 18, 2013 7:13 PM

    Go with Washington Sentinals and bring Shane Falco in to QB!

    Also, after the Redskins, will the libs go after the Saints?

  142. defscottyb says: Oct 22, 2013 2:13 AM

    Ray Halbritter is trying to shakedown The Redskins/Dan into building a new casino for him and his “his people”. Dig deeper and look at the big picture folks. It’s all about the $$$ and he is trying to use this shakedown tactic on Dan Snyder (using fake outrage as a way to put pressure him into it). This will get deleted because they don’t want you to know the truth. Leave this up and let the readers decide and vote up or down, Thank you.

  143. defscottyb says: Oct 22, 2013 7:05 PM

    “anti-redskins-campaigner-runs-abusive-tribal-government-oneida-members-say” Ray Halbritter’s own tribe can’t stand him, go read all about this guy and the true essence of his “outrage” over the Redskins. It’s all about the $$$ and disguised as “outrage”.

  144. jetsjetsjetsnow says: Oct 23, 2013 2:01 PM

    After reading all these this is my several cents…

    - It’s seems like Redskin is an obvious racial slur but I’m curious what a true poll would reveal amongst the tribes. The polls that are always quoted are pretty faulty & inferior surveys…

    - Where are all the other tribes? Have Oneida Nation been named the spokes group for all Native American tribes? It’s kind of interesting that there is a Oneida company as well as tribe. Got forbid the media give those type of details rather than generalize it all under one basket.

    - Has anyone else noticed that the Oneida name violates the i after e except after c rule? I’m not sure how this ties into the bigger issue here but I think that Obama & the NSA needs to look into it.

    - It’s news to me that I can’t marry my dog! When did that law get passed?! I don’t know what to tell Nellie :(

    - Washington Redskin the organization is not truly a private ownership since the NFL takes federal money which trickles down into the owners pockets so this opens the door for politicians to get involved & the public to have a say. So i think basically we should just blame Roger Goodall’s that this has become such a circus to save face & make it easier on everyone else involved!

    - How did this name get approved in the first place? Can I create a company and call it by any racial slur?

    - Is it me or is Rush Limbaugh just a disturbing individual? You kinda know once be gets involved nothing will really ever get worked out sainly.

    - Since I have some Irish in my blood I have to say I am offended by that drunken fighting leprechaun Notre Dame’s uniform. I am a peaceful loving human being with a competitive spirit not a raging alcoholic with anger problems!!

    Can we put the Racist Redskin & Drunken Irish Leprechaun mascots in a cage match & whoever triumphs gets their name changed?

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