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Polian jumps in to the Irsay-Manning fray

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While it’s debatable (sort of) whether Colts owner Jim Irsay was taking a swipe at former Colts quarterback Peyton Manning when explaining that their separation arose from a desire to put Lombardis over stats, Irsay’s words definitely amounted to an indictment of G.M. Bill Polian’s work.

And while Manning will let his actions do the talking, Polian has opted for words.  (For now.)

Understandably defensive, Polian points out to Jim Corbett of USA Today that Polian’s Colts “never lost to Baltimore in the playoffs.”  Last year, in the first season of the new “choose championships” approach, Indy went one and out by losing to the Ravens.

“That aside — our record is what it is,” Polian said.  “We didn’t win multiple Super Bowls.  But I think we did a hell of a lot to make the city and state of Indiana proud — on and off the field.”

Polian also focuses on the consequences of Irsay’s comments for the team’s current power structure.

“Now it’s up to this new group that he’s put together in the image and likeness that he wants, with the systems he wants, with the people he wants,” Polian said.  “It’s up to them to meet or exceed that standard. . . .  I wish them well.”

In other words, good luck with that.

And good luck to the New England Patriots in staying out of this fight.  Polian has pulled them in by taking a backhanded shot at their three pre-Spygate Super Bowl rings.

“[H]ere’s the most important thing of all — and it goes unfortunately unspoken because of the focus on the Super Bowl and the failure to win more than one Super Bowl:  We did it — and Peyton did it — the right way, honestly, fairly and squarely.”

And so the issue that some believe was a media creation, and that some in the media amazingly are whining about having to cover, continues to expand, three days before Peyton goes back to Indy.

We’ve got a feeling Polian won’t be sitting in Irsay’s suite for the game.

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45 Responses to “Polian jumps in to the Irsay-Manning fray”
  1. primenumber19 says: Oct 17, 2013 7:09 AM

    If by right way polian means losing multiple potential championships by overriding the coaches and insisting the colts rest players for playoffs, he’s right.

  2. braven4evr says: Oct 17, 2013 7:12 AM

    Ouch! …your turn Irsay…

  3. jtchernak says: Oct 17, 2013 7:15 AM

    He always has been and will be a hack. And he’s jealous of the patriots

  4. infectorman says: Oct 17, 2013 7:15 AM

    Funny Florio, I figured Polian was referring to the Broncos , Niners and Steelers for cheating their way to multiple SB’s.

    You jump right on NE, per usual……awfully assumptive, you being a former attorney and all

  5. truthfactory says: Oct 17, 2013 7:16 AM

    “We didn’t win multiple Super Bowls. But I think we did a hell of a lot to make the city and state of Indiana proud — on and off the field.”
    —-

    Um…. Bill…. You got completely exposed when Peyton went down and they went 2-14. You were made to look like some kind of a genius because Peyton carried your crap teams into the playoffs every year. He got to 4 Afc championship games and 2 Superbowls with no defense, special teams, bad o-line, bad running game, and had to overcome jim caldwell as a head coach.

    Best thing to happen to Peyton was leaving town with an opportunity to go to a more complete team, and Indy fired you and have moved on to a GM that actually aggressively tries to improve areas of weakness.

    That being said, this is turning into some type of a spanish soap opera

  6. all4patriots says: Oct 17, 2013 7:16 AM

    This is two turds that used to float in the same bowl debating their relative smell.

  7. footballfan58 says: Oct 17, 2013 7:21 AM

    This spygate business regarding the Patriots stays alive in great part because Florio wants it to. Give it up. You’re as bad as the trolls who follow and comment constantly on the NE articles.

  8. rhabdodontidae says: Oct 17, 2013 7:21 AM

    If anything, Irsay can’t act above the “we can ride Peyton’s arm to a championship” approach.

    The whole organization believed in that and identified with it. Though the talent level dipped in the second half of Peyton’s tenure, he still had more talent on offense around him than most QBs. Indy scored 400 points a season, like clockwork.

    Their run game was inconsistent and they couldn’t seem to field a good defense two years in a row, but that in itself is not unique. It’s easier to have a consistently strong passing game when you have the same OC and a QB like Peyton.

    P would be the first to acknowledge he hasn’t always played well in the postseason, especially early on. But the same was true of everyone else(Marvin Harrison especially).

    In short, Indy fielded more than one SB caliber team there(2005 Colts come to mind even more so than 2006 Colts). Coming up short in the postseason is probably as much a product of a parity driven, competitive league.

  9. @Cereal_22 says: Oct 17, 2013 7:23 AM

    What wise businessmen the Irsay’s arg moving an NFL franchise from a major market like Baltimore to the sticks of Indiana. If Peyton Manning didn’t fall into their laps, they’d probably be in LA by now. Polian is right Irsay & their goofy fans should be thankful.

  10. tim2200 says: Oct 17, 2013 7:24 AM

    What Irsay said is true. The fact is Peyton Mr. Regular Season Manning is a mediocre playoff performer and always has been. He has a .500 record in the playoffs for a reason. The only reason Manning was able to beat the Bears in the Super Bowl is because they rolled a playoff QB worse than Manning, the infamous Rex Grossman.

    Bill Polion did it the right way?? ha ha ha ha ha Canned crowd noise, turning up the heat in the dome, using the rules committee filled with his boys to aid Manning by legislating pass defense out of the game.

  11. wearethesteelers says: Oct 17, 2013 7:26 AM

    LOLOLOL

  12. afty2001 says: Oct 17, 2013 7:35 AM

    Call me an overly optimistic Colts fan but there’s been really zero talk on the actual Colts players and not the garbage they put up against San Diego. Sunday night can’t get here fast enough.

  13. patriotsfanfromindia says: Oct 17, 2013 7:38 AM

    What do the Patriots have to do with this twitter saga!
    You shouldn’t have Florio! Just because Polian says he won them fair and square, you thought let’s drag Patriots into it and get more hits on the site.

    Now those two-bit hacks from Boston (Borges et al) are going to create an entire story out of this!

  14. thesmartest1 says: Oct 17, 2013 7:39 AM

    The voice of reason. With a backhanded shot at cheating. Haha.

  15. captainvilfo says: Oct 17, 2013 7:42 AM

    Last time I checked BB still has his position at GM and this scrub is working for the worst sports network of all time.

  16. jayhawk6 says: Oct 17, 2013 7:52 AM

    Do the other owners cringe when Jim Irsay opens his mouth? This is the scion of the creepy family that sneaked out of Baltimore in the middle of the night and has twice been the beneficiary of the lottery known as the NFL draft.

    Rather than count his blessings and keep his moth shut, he persists in displaying his complete lack of class.

    What a douche bag.

  17. mbapastor says: Oct 17, 2013 7:56 AM

    Something tells me Chris Polian won’t be sitting in the suite either, which is the real reason Bill Polian got canned.

  18. lingsun54 says: Oct 17, 2013 8:00 AM

    The real issue is that Manning was an over the hill brittle QB and Luck was seen as the best QB coming out of college in decades. It was a no-brainer.

  19. reed20fence says: Oct 17, 2013 8:07 AM

    Umm, didn’t Peyton also go one-and-out against Baltimore last playoffs? The point is moot.

  20. mooncussersss says: Oct 17, 2013 8:08 AM

    If Irsay has a beef with anyone, it should be Polian, not Manning. Polian was great at building paper tigers in Buffalo, Carolina and Indy but could only bring home one championship – and that was the result of being on the competition committee and changing the rules after Peyton’s receivers were battered by the Patriots. …the “right way, honestly fairly and squarely” my ass.

  21. jimthebuilder27 says: Oct 17, 2013 8:09 AM

    Uh, Polian? The Patriots built a team to win. Unlike you, who built your team to depend on one player.

    That’s also why Irsay canned you. And I hate Irsay before anyone blasts me

  22. pigbenis69 says: Oct 17, 2013 8:12 AM

    I don’t want to hear the Colts complaining about their ONE Super Bowl. Poor Indy.

    Try going to 5 NFC Championship games (4 of which you are favored in) with Andy Reid & losing 4 of them.

    Oh, and boo hoo, they go from Peyton Manning to the best young QB in football – Andrew Luck. Reid ruined our roster with his putrid drafts & we don’t have a Super Bowl to show for it.

    So Polian & Irsay can shut up about only winning one Lombardi trophy. It’s like a guy who just won the powerball complaining to his friends about how much is taken away in taxes.

  23. cjnunes426 says: Oct 17, 2013 8:12 AM

    Okay… Who bounced Peyton last season?

  24. 6ball says: Oct 17, 2013 8:12 AM

    .

    ” we did it the right way…… fairly and squarely ”

    Like when you tanked your final games in order to keep the Steelers out of the playoffs.

    # Pepperidge Farms Remembers

    .

  25. johndont says: Oct 17, 2013 8:22 AM

    Mr. Polian and Irsay can’t you behave yourself, this is non-sense. Stop it. – Signed Miley Cyrus.

  26. zoxitic says: Oct 17, 2013 8:23 AM

    Youre up to bat Irsay.

  27. kingpel says: Oct 17, 2013 8:24 AM

    Jim Irsay looks and acts like he could be Kenny Power’s dad.

  28. vablockaderunner says: Oct 17, 2013 8:25 AM

    Polian was waaaaaay more diplomatic than I would have been.

    Does anyone really blame the Colt’s playoff failures on the GM?

    Polian built a helluva team around Manning — Edgerrin James, Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Dallas Clark, Jeff Saturday, Dwight Freeney, Bob Sanders, Robert Mathis, etc.

    When Irsay was running personnel, the franchise was a joke.

  29. keepingitrealdumb says: Oct 17, 2013 8:38 AM

    Though what Irsay said is true .. and most importantly it’s true in his opinion .. he doesn’t have to publicly say it and say it at this point in time.

    That being said .. i am glad he did .. this gives us some insights into what the football people are thinking. we as fans already know what we think, that PManning does not handle the pressure of the playoffs and shrinks.

    Now we know that even their owner felt that way and is now publicly stating it .. I LOVE IT

  30. hwolf22 says: Oct 17, 2013 8:44 AM

    So, in his mind, taking advantage of his position on the competition commity, and changing the rules to gain an advantage is fair and square.

  31. sbaltimore says: Oct 17, 2013 8:49 AM

    Ironically, last year Manning ALSO lost to the Ravens. (But as a member of the Broncos.)

  32. patriotsdefense says: Oct 17, 2013 8:56 AM

    First, ex post facto. How could the Patriots break a rule that was not in place?

    Second, I felt it was more a dig at the Saints. That is after all the team that crushed the Colts in a Super Bowl.

  33. jimjets says: Oct 17, 2013 9:15 AM

    who doesn’t love this now?

    of course Irsay’s an idiot…but he’s RIGHT. Manning is mediocre at best when it counts. Same amount of SB wins as Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Mark Rypien etc.

    And Polian’s a windbag, but he’s RIGHT. And yes, he was referring to the Pats cheating.

    And to all you Pats fans, you know this never dies unless you win one without the cheating.

  34. donmega72 says: Oct 17, 2013 9:17 AM

    Irsay is the Mike Vanderjagt of NFL owners.

  35. beerbaron says: Oct 17, 2013 9:25 AM

    So it’s fair and square to blast artificial crowd noise in your stadium?

    As a Patriots fan, I’m still angry we let Peyton’s Colts win one Super Bowl.

    Brady=Montana, Peyton=Marino.

  36. crewdawg says: Oct 17, 2013 9:30 AM

    LOL Polian you won it honestly and fair? Did you watch the 07 AFCCG? You whined and cried to change the rules and then nobody could be within a foot of your wide outs without getting flagged. Not to mention the pumped in crowd noise and heating up the NE bench while the patriots players had the flu.

  37. stefet says: Oct 17, 2013 9:41 AM

    The colts had more big name players on both sides of the ball than the pats ever had…. Again patriots jealousy….

  38. steelerchicken says: Oct 17, 2013 9:43 AM

    Bettis could have been a hero in Indiana but some kicker from the Colts missed the FG! Still remember seeing Cowher and Tony Dungy say he missed it!

  39. bigdaddyrockytop says: Oct 17, 2013 10:02 AM

    Irsay is a DB, I respect Polian and the spygate thing will go away when the hoodie can win something that he didnt cheat at.

  40. airjunior23 says: Oct 17, 2013 10:49 AM

    So the Patriots threw all those interceptions, The pats are the reason Peyton sucks in the playoffs? After all these years I get it. Oh yea by the way, the year Peyton won the title was his worst statistical playoffs ever, man this is awesome reading here.

  41. 12444uggg says: Oct 17, 2013 11:40 AM

    I just want to thank Polian for drafting Tony Ugoh, Anthony Gonzalaz, Donald Brown, Jerry Hughes ect

  42. ijahru says: Oct 17, 2013 11:41 AM

    Polian used his influence to change the rules because he couldn’t get receivers who could beat tight coverage. Too me that is worse than spygate and bountygate and the Seahawks full of PED users.

  43. vablockaderunner says: Oct 17, 2013 1:11 PM

    @Cereal_22 says: Oct 17, 2013 7:23 AM

    “What wise businessmen the Irsay’s arg moving an NFL franchise from a major market like Baltimore to the sticks of Indiana. ”

    Population of Baltimore: 621,000 (and shrinking)

    Population of Indianapolis: 844,000 (and rising)

    The greater Baltimore area is a larger market overall, but it’s not accurate to characterize Indianapolis as “the sticks.”

    Irsay is still a brat and his pops was a deadbeat.

  44. CKL says: Oct 17, 2013 2:51 PM

    jimjets says:
    Oct 17, 2013 9:15 AM

    And to all you Pats fans, you know this never dies unless you win one without the cheating.
    _________________________________
    You “cameragate truthers” will never let it die, you’ll just come up with more “creative reasoning”. We Pats fans have faith in you. :D

  45. twoticketstoparadise20 says: Oct 17, 2013 5:51 PM

    Indy defines its boundaries so that it covers 360 square miles not counting water. Baltimore’s boundaries cover 80 square miles of land. The “city limits” population is irrelevant where there’s no common standard for defining them, and the fact that Baltimore is a larger metro area makes cereal’s point, such as it is.

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