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Arians: Cardinals were sluggish, playing on Thursday is no excuse

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This season’s slate of Thursday night games hasn’t provided particularly exciting football, leading many fans to think the short week of preparation is resulting in substandard play. Cardinals coach Bruce Arians admitted after losing to the Seahawks on Sunday night that his team looked lousy, but he said it had nothing to do with playing on Thursday.

I thought we came out sluggish,” Arians said. “No excuses as far as Thursday Night Football and all of that crap. We didn’t break a sweat all week, so we should have been fresh.”

The Cardinals came out slowly on both sides of the ball: The first five drives of the game ended in a Cardinals punt, a Seahawks touchdown, a Cardinals interception, a Seahawks touchdown and a Cardinals punt. Of course, the Seahawks had the same short work week and they didn’t come out sluggish, so Arians is right that playing on Thursday can’t be used as an excuse.

The player who looked most sluggish early in the game was quarterback Carson Palmer, but Arians said he never considered benching Palmer in favor of backup Drew Stanton. If the Cardinals are going to turn it around, it’s going to be with Palmer leading the way.

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46 Responses to “Arians: Cardinals were sluggish, playing on Thursday is no excuse”
  1. cardsfann1 says: Oct 18, 2013 7:28 AM

    O line. O line. O line…

  2. ridingwithnohandlebars says: Oct 18, 2013 7:36 AM

    The short week provides the coaches with less time to gameplan, so it is usually the better team that wins on Thursdays.

  3. jagsfan1 says: Oct 18, 2013 7:55 AM

    Oline was surely no match for Seattle’s D-Line…and when you have a fossil like Palmer as your QB…he needs lots of time and a clean pocket to work with…not all his fault but he is really not good. The problem is – all the other options are worse!

  4. raiderufan says: Oct 18, 2013 7:56 AM

    I spent alot of time last season defending Carson Palmer and I’ll stand by that…No McFadden, WR injury after injury…you name it.

    But when people thought he was gonna be the strong arm that Arians offense needed it made no sense. He lumbers in the pocket and has no line. Last season at least half his picks were on throws that were open and TERRIBLY underthrown…I realize the Cardinals needed to clean out the QB room and start fresh but I don’t believe he ever had a chance of fitting in Arians offense.

    They have the D and they have Fitz. Get line help and a QB to build around. Let Arians develop a QB! Roethlisberger and Luck anyone?

  5. joshuavkidd says: Oct 18, 2013 7:58 AM

    Arians is as much to blame as anyone… continuing to force Mendenhall into the offense when Ellington is clearly better.

  6. jbeagles23 says: Oct 18, 2013 8:04 AM

    That might be the worst oline I’ve ever seen

  7. bengalskuta82 says: Oct 18, 2013 8:10 AM

    O-line stinks. QB isn’t mobile..hmmm, its going to be a long season.

  8. bert1913 says: Oct 18, 2013 8:30 AM

    home game on national tv. sounds like arians forgot where this game was played

  9. jjb0811 says: Oct 18, 2013 8:31 AM

    Arizona can never get it right. Always new coaches & QB’s and yet well below the mendoza line.

  10. natepalmer1 says: Oct 18, 2013 8:40 AM

    Ya, and if the Cardinals had won the game it would have been a different story…Sounds like sore loser syndrome…

  11. pepperdowns says: Oct 18, 2013 8:40 AM

    Seattle looked good and they traveled. Sunday night games have been exciting and well played?

  12. jr4real says: Oct 18, 2013 8:45 AM

    Hahahaha

    Ok Bruce. Wilson seemed sluggish also. Probably would have put up 6 TDs on Sunday. Maybe you’re team stinks.

  13. fanofthegame77 says: Oct 18, 2013 8:46 AM

    Even on the winning side I say get rid of Thursday night football. Players are not at their best, game plans are not at their best and it messes up the next week as well. In this case we get extra days to heal and prepare for the Rams. It is just frustrating to know that the NFL is knowingly diminishing the product.

    Go Hawks!

  14. phuzzball says: Oct 18, 2013 8:48 AM

    …said Captain Obvious

    ridingwithnohandlebars
    Oct 18, 2013, 7:36 AM EDT
    The short week provides the coaches with less time to gameplan, so it is usually the better team that wins on Thursdays.

  15. steves11 says: Oct 18, 2013 9:37 AM

    If the Cardinals don’t like Carson Palmer, I’m sure that they could get Kevin Kolb back.

  16. crownofthehelmet says: Oct 18, 2013 9:46 AM

    Looks like you could’ve used Levi Brown after all. Fleeced.

  17. spicymudbugs says: Oct 18, 2013 9:47 AM

    Cardinals looked horrendous as usual.

  18. schmitt3r says: Oct 18, 2013 9:51 AM

    They’re “sluggish” every week. At what point do you just say enough and go with a different QB? Palmer is not getting it done regardless of the O line. BA’s offense is garbage.

  19. osiris33 says: Oct 18, 2013 10:04 AM

    I wonder if Arians can see the dominance of the Seahawks now?

  20. dbara43 says: Oct 18, 2013 10:20 AM

    No Osiris, they were just “sluggish” not dominated

  21. jrazz22 says: Oct 18, 2013 10:22 AM

    Horrible coaching, game plan, and horrendous O line play. Arians made zero adjustments and kept force feeding mendenhall who looked like he was stuck in mud. How did Ellington only have 1 carry? Unreal.

  22. fordmandalay says: Oct 18, 2013 10:28 AM

    crownofthehelmet | Oct 18, 2013, 6:46 AM MST
    Looks like you could’ve used Levi Brown after all. Fleeced.
    —————————————————————————–
    The Steelers already placed Brown on IR, without him being active for a single game for them. And they still have to pay him $6.5 mill. So who exactly got fleeced?

  23. crownofthehelmet says: Oct 18, 2013 10:36 AM

    Sorry fordmandalay, thought we were talking about winning games, not contracts. And FYI, AZ paid all but $800k of his contract. Like I said, fleecing.

  24. horsepedlr says: Oct 18, 2013 10:37 AM

    ba is gonna beat this dead horse ( palmer ) all the way to china. palmer just cannot play with any pressure period. mendenhall needs to sit and stop trying to run up the middle for a yard ( game plan )

  25. bobzilla1001 says: Oct 18, 2013 10:53 AM

    Levi Brown was brought in for DEPTH. Before his injury, he was listed second on the Steelers’ depth chart. Beecham is the Steelers’ starting left tackle, and former starter Mike Adams is now his backup…

    Bruce Arians is a journeyman coach who has been recycled more times than an aluminum beer can.

  26. jwcarlson says: Oct 18, 2013 10:58 AM

    I really feel like they’re underutilizing Ellington. I don’t think he’s going to be an up the gut beast… but use him like Sproles.

    Get him the ball in space… or at least try.

  27. chawk12thman says: Oct 18, 2013 11:09 AM

    And that is what a good defensive team does to another team…….makes them appear sluggish….

  28. realdealsteel says: Oct 18, 2013 11:14 AM

    Thursday nite games are unfair to the teams. The greed of the owners is causing them to make bad moves in regards to this game.

    I love football but I can wait for Sunday. I care more about the welfare of the game and the players in the long term. I wish the owners did too.

  29. shayeezy says: Oct 18, 2013 11:27 AM

    arians is all talk, and it becomes more apparent with each passing week. i got a good laugh when he hyped up carson palmer and levi brown this offseason, and acted high and mighty about his approach to offense. the guy can put a decent offense together with guys like roethlisberger and luck, but he isn’t the offensive guru so many made him out to be.

  30. saggysack says: Oct 18, 2013 11:35 AM

    They need to fire Russ Grimm. . .The O Line was horrible!!! Oh, wait. . .

  31. 1phd says: Oct 18, 2013 12:14 PM

    You have only yourself to blame coach. Putting all your chips on Carson Palmer is and will forever be a losing hand.

  32. mfernandes17 says: Oct 18, 2013 1:04 PM

    Why would people think that a new offense and a new QB would click so soon? It will take at least this season for the players to get comfortable with it.

    Ellington needs more snaps.

    Fitz needs to sit until he is healthy. He is a liability out there.

    They need to acquire 2 tackles in the offseason. I have never seen so many free rushers when bringing 4.

    Palmer needs to take more sacks and not try to force throws when getting smacked by those free running d linemen.

  33. jwcarlson says: Oct 18, 2013 1:07 PM

    While I agree that Palmer is not the answer… what were the Cardinals supposed to do? Franchise QBs and even starting caliber QBs do not grow on trees. Look around the league.

    Who was the better option at QB this offseason for the Cardinals? It’s not like they passed on Rodgers, Brees, and Manning in favor of Palmer.

  34. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 18, 2013 1:10 PM

    They looked like they did Sunday and most every game this week. Or are they just sluggish generally?

    Cards should have signed Vince Young.

  35. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 18, 2013 1:12 PM

    ridingwithnohandlebars says: Oct 18, 2013 7:36 AM

    The short week provides the coaches with less time to gameplan, so it is usually the better team that wins on Thursdays.
    —————

    Game planning is usually done two games in advance. It’s all about who can execute and are in better physical condition on Thursday nights. Even Kurt Warner restated what I have known from a couple of buddies who are inside and said that game planning is done two games in advance.

  36. sweetnlow44 says: Oct 18, 2013 1:18 PM

    Can’t totally blame them for being sluggish. With all the Seahawks fans at the game last night it was practically a home game for them.

    And clearly Arians mispoke last night. He said they looked sluggish last night. What he meant was that they look sucky all the time. Seriously, they’re just not good.

  37. doubleadub says: Oct 18, 2013 1:21 PM

    So… sucked in by moronic comments on ths feed. Did some of you actually watch the game or just flip over during commercials while watching Sex in the City? Geex. Mendenhall kept trying to go outside. Kept trying to turn what could have been a 4 yard straight up the gut run into a home run by bouncing outside and would then get smashed. Whoever keeps talking about Levi Brown- shut it! He stunk on ice and has for years. Just getting him off the roster is a win. O line sucks.. Hi dead horse, anyone got a bat? Who ever said Arians is a journeyman coach, you are an idiot. This is his first head coaching job and he turned Roethlisburger into a super bowl winner and gave Luck the right offence to get his career rolling. It is the coaches job to pump up the players or at least not bash them. Arians tried this with Levi and it failed. He is trying with Palmer is struggling. One pick last night was PI against Fitz. The second was just a crap decision. Ellington needs more touches. For the haters out there if you don’t like the Cardinals, fine but shut up and go away. We don’t need you. Go back to rooting for the Raiders.

  38. streetpack says: Oct 18, 2013 1:25 PM

    Carson Palmer reminds me a lot of Drew Beldsoe

  39. justintuckrule says: Oct 18, 2013 1:27 PM

    I was at the game last night so I didn’t have the benefit of an explanation.

    Question….what happened at the end of the first half? Seattle had no timeouts and Wilson was stopped in play on 3rd and long with about 11 seconds left. I know there was a holding call. Is there a reason why the clock stopped? If Arians declines it, no way Seattle runs the FG team on with 10 seconds and counting. Is there a reason why there was no runoff? Seattle would have still likely won but I thought this was a huge momentum swing back to Seattle to salvage a FG.

    Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks all.

  40. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 18, 2013 1:32 PM

    You were fine until you claimed pass interference on a great play by Browner.

  41. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 18, 2013 1:33 PM

    justintuckrule says: Oct 18, 2013 1:27 PM

    I was at the game last night so I didn’t have the benefit of an explanation.

    Question….what happened at the end of the first half? Seattle had no timeouts and Wilson was stopped in play on 3rd and long with about 11 seconds left. I know there was a holding call. Is there a reason why the clock stopped? If Arians declines it, no way Seattle runs the FG team on with 10 seconds and counting. Is there a reason why there was no runoff? Seattle would have still likely won but I thought this was a huge momentum swing back to Seattle to salvage a FG.

    Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks all.
    —————

    At first I was wondering the same. They said it was a mid-play foul (Unger held to spring Russ), so there was not a 10 second runoff as a result.

  42. clssylssy says: Oct 18, 2013 1:36 PM

    Sorry Cards fans, you bought into hokum and now you must live with it. Keim/Arians aren’t who you thought them to be! As much as I detest Pete Carroll, you got outcoached. At least the guy shows some emotion when he doesn’t agree with a call and you know he has a pulse!

  43. dedicatedhawkfan says: Oct 18, 2013 1:51 PM

    Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 18, 2013 1:33 PM

    justintuckrule says: Oct 18, 2013 1:27 PM

    I was at the game last night so I didn’t have the benefit of an explanation.

    Question….what happened at the end of the first half? Seattle had no timeouts and Wilson was stopped in play on 3rd and long with about 11 seconds left. I know there was a holding call. Is there a reason why the clock stopped? If Arians declines it, no way Seattle runs the FG team on with 10 seconds and counting. Is there a reason why there was no runoff? Seattle would have still likely won but I thought this was a huge momentum swing back to Seattle to salvage a FG.

    Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks all.
    —————

    At first I was wondering the same. They said it was a mid-play foul (Unger held to spring Russ), so there was not a 10 second runoff as a result.


    I thought Seattle opted to use their last time out to avoid the 10 second run off?

  44. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 18, 2013 2:05 PM

    That happened on a previous penalty, which is when they used their second time out (it may have been the first of the three, I cannot recall). But this play in question occurred when they had no timeouts remaining. The only reason there wasn’t a 10 second runoff is because it wasn’t an intentional foul committed in order to stop the clock and have a chance to run out their FG team. The hold occurred during the play (not before, which would have resulted in a runoff) nor afterward, which would have done the same. Honestly, if they hadn’t called the holding and Russ had cut inside sooner, he would have scored a TD, so the Cards were actually fortunate that they made the stop to begin with, and got the holding penalty against Unger.

  45. justintuckrule says: Oct 18, 2013 4:14 PM

    So….the question then is whether the holding call stops the clock regardless if it is accepted or declined. If the clock continues when the call is declined, Arians should have declined it because Seattle didn’t have their FG team out there while the official was explaining the penalty.

    This might be another loophole the NFL should close. If an offensive player is heady enough to recognize that the ball carrier will be tackled in bounds and the clock will run out, he might as well commit some kind of infraction to give the offense one last play.

  46. realitycheckbaby says: Oct 18, 2013 5:38 PM

    Hey, give them a break.

    They were playing the #1 team in the NFC.

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