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Josh Freeman: Bucs didn’t see me as the guy, I strongly disagree

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For all the disagreements Josh Freeman and Greg Schiano had in Tampa, the one that really mattered was the most fundamental of all: Freeman believed he was the franchise quarterback, and Schiano did not.

Freeman, now the Vikings’ starting quarterback, said on the Dan Patrick Show that what it all came down to is that Schiano didn’t believe in him.

“They didn’t see me as the guy,” Freeman said. “They didn’t see me as the guy who could get it done and I strongly disagree with that. But at the same time, it’s not really my decision to make. It’s just been an awesome deal, being blessed, having the opportunity to come play with an organization like Minnesota.”

Freeman said Schiano called him after the Buccaneers drafted Glennon and assured him that the Bucs saw Glennon only as a developmental player for the future, not as someone who would compete to start as a rookie. But Freeman learned over the next several months that Schiano doubted him.

“You hear a lot of speculation and whispers and people saying different things, but the bottom line is it was a situation where the coach wanted to bring in his guy,” Freeman said. “It happens all the time in this league.”

Freeman says the Vikings’ offense is similar to the offense he ran in college, and he’s ready to start this week. Now he’ll try to prove that he’s the guy in Minnesota.

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94 Responses to “Josh Freeman: Bucs didn’t see me as the guy, I strongly disagree”
  1. trumb1mj says: Oct 18, 2013 12:41 PM

    I don’t like Schiano but Josh Freeman is an awful QB. I’m not sure he’s even an upgrade to Ponder.

  2. primenumber19 says: Oct 18, 2013 12:42 PM

    I can relate, the U.S. Government does not recognize me as a Jedi, and I strongly disagree, but it’s not really my decision.

  3. cardmagnet says: Oct 18, 2013 12:44 PM

    The film, stats, and team record all agree that you weren’t the guy. That’s all that matters.

  4. fissels says: Oct 18, 2013 12:45 PM

    Best of luck Josh. I hope you and the Vikes get back to winning ways.

  5. buddysguys says: Oct 18, 2013 12:46 PM

    Both Freeman and Schiano are losers, however only one will be out of the league next year? Who you got? Thumbs up for Freeman Thumbs down for Schiano.

  6. pja26 says: Oct 18, 2013 12:47 PM

    After 2 games with Glennon at the helm it appears that there are other receivers on the team aside from VJAX…and a TE as well! Who knew?

  7. isphet71 says: Oct 18, 2013 12:47 PM

    Lots of people agree with Freeman that he shold be seen as the guy. His mom and his agent are the two I can think of.

  8. prideof10000lakes says: Oct 18, 2013 12:48 PM

    Glad to hear we have a college level offense…smh

  9. obamareallysucks says: Oct 18, 2013 12:48 PM

    maybe because you are not that good. nothing but dump-off passes when you have let your team get behind by so much due to your inefficiency. affirmative action only works in the government world, not on a football field.

  10. obamareallysucks says: Oct 18, 2013 12:49 PM

    but hey, you odunbo-bots got your cell phones.

  11. txeer304 says: Oct 18, 2013 12:50 PM

    Yeah you sure showed you was the guy by missing meetings, camps, and then week 1 being late for the team bus to the game…
    In the great words of Riley Freeman (boondocks) “at what point in time does self responsibility come into play”?

  12. nygrwy says: Oct 18, 2013 12:50 PM

    I dont know why but I am kinda rooting for him. He has potential. Schiano is becoming a joke.

  13. britishteeth says: Oct 18, 2013 12:51 PM

    He’ll do fine for a while, until he finds a new dealer in the twin cities. Using greatly cuts down on your effectiveness.

  14. westampa says: Oct 18, 2013 12:53 PM

    After 2 games with GlennonI can’t really say he looks any worse than Freeman. That being said, I don’t think he is the future either. I’m just glad the Bucs didn’t extend Freeman to a Flacco / Romo like deal. I do however hope Freeman plays well just to prove how idiotic the Bucs were for just releasing him.

  15. godofwine330 says: Oct 18, 2013 12:55 PM

    I say again, a coach’s belief in the QB does wonders for some. He was progressing until Schiano showed up. He had 4000 yards last year, but he wasn’t as good as he was the year before. As his confidence waned so did his play.

    I am hoping for the Schiano era to be over in Tampa and I’m not even a fan.

  16. bucrightoff says: Oct 18, 2013 12:55 PM

    Josh Freeman is effectively the bigger armed, less accurate version of Christian Ponder. Glennon did something in his second start that Josh Freeman has done once his last 18 starts: Hit over 60% competion, the level thats considered average for a QB.

  17. mc1439 says: Oct 18, 2013 12:56 PM

    Well you don’t want to play for an organization that decides it’s best to smear you, rather than level with you about how they feel.

  18. DaveKShape says: Oct 18, 2013 12:56 PM

    Say what you will about the guy’s talent, but he deserves some respect for having the stones to make a definitive statement. People compare this dude to McNabb, but McNabb would have handled this with some passive-aggressive nonsense.

  19. thegrigga49 says: Oct 18, 2013 12:56 PM

    Ponder must HATE Freeman.

  20. g35phin says: Oct 18, 2013 12:57 PM

    Top 5 QB’s in the League:

    1) Peyton Manning
    2) Drew Brees
    3) Tom Brady
    4 )Aaron Rodgers
    5) Santana Moss

    IN THAT ORDER!!!!

  21. historyisyourfriend says: Oct 18, 2013 12:57 PM

    Freeman wasn’t as bad as Tampa Bay made him out to be, but he also isn’t as good as he seems to think he is. Average to good QB who doesn’t seem to have all his focus on the game. He will never be enough to win big for any franchise. Best thing he can do is put his head down (i.e. avoid media splashes like this story) and watch what Alex Smith is doing in KC right now (the Trent Dilfer playbook).

  22. nflpoker says: Oct 18, 2013 12:58 PM

    There are a lot of you who say he is awful and a lot who think he will do fine in Minnesota.

    BUT, your opinions on how good or bad he is just don’t matter. We’ll start to see what happens starting with Sunday.

    I wish him and the Vikings good luck.

  23. zn0rseman says: Oct 18, 2013 12:59 PM

    Yeah… because NFL offenses are just like college.

    Championship!

    Note for those who are slow on the uptake: That was all sarcasm.

  24. packh8er says: Oct 18, 2013 1:00 PM

    I’m sure glad my MN Vikings run a college quality offense. THAT among most other reasons are why Musgrave MUST go.

  25. spyder9669 says: Oct 18, 2013 1:02 PM

    Yea Glennon looks great. How many games he win?

  26. jbaxt says: Oct 18, 2013 1:04 PM

    I see you as a Jedi sir. Don’t let anyone tell you different. If Silent Bob can get it done, you can too.

  27. goodjudgementprevails says: Oct 18, 2013 1:05 PM

    In games Glennon has had 86 passing plays, Freeman under Schiano had 94 in 3 games, barely a discernible difference with an extra game for Glennon. Glennon has faced two of the bottom 3 defenses in the entire NFL vs Freeman facing 3 Top 15 Defenses. I am not a Freeman fan, rather pointing out the facts and obvious, Schiano wanted Freeman to fail. Not that I agree Freeman is a Franchise QB, but Glennon is definitely not an upgrade in any case. Until Schiano goes, a team with as much talent as the Bucs have, won’t do much of anything at all.

  28. fwippel says: Oct 18, 2013 1:07 PM

    As a Viking fan, I obviously want Freeman to succeed. However, his stats over the past couple of years don’t exactly inspire a load of confidence in that direction.

    But if Freeman ends up disappointing in Minnesota, how long will it take the Wilfs to realize that perhaps the issue is the front office and the coaching staff?

    If the Vikings had drafted Colin Kaepernick instead of Ponder back in 2011, would Kaepernick be the success in Minnesota that he has been in SF? I doubt it.

    Ponder and Freeman have the physical tools to play the position. The issue now is, do you have the coaching staff in place to get the best out of your QBs? Minnesota does not.

  29. purpleguy says: Oct 18, 2013 1:07 PM

    He may not be the answer in MN, but at least he finally diverted the Ponder train off the tracks.

  30. 4thqtrsaint says: Oct 18, 2013 1:07 PM

    What a diva. “It happens all the time in this league.” Yeah, Josh, you’re a 14 year grizzled veteran. You know all about it huh?

  31. doe22us says: Oct 18, 2013 1:10 PM

    No worries Josh, lol you will have each and every opportunity to prove your statement to be true or not starting Sunday.

  32. steelsity says: Oct 18, 2013 1:18 PM

    Really josh?.. Your 45% completion percentage really doesn’t help your case

  33. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Oct 18, 2013 1:19 PM

    Sometimes a guy goes to a new team and is better than he ever looked like he could be with his old team (e.g., Drew Brees). I hope Freeman either lights it up and clearly shows he’s the long-term answer at QB or he is terrible and clearly shows the Vikings need to invest a top-5 draft pick in one of these nice-looking QBs coming out this year. The worst thing, and most likely, would be looking just competent enough to win enough games to spoil that draft pick.

  34. davikes says: Oct 18, 2013 1:22 PM

    Great, the Vikes are running an offense similar to the one Freeman ran in college FIVE YEARS AGO? I like Frazier a lot, he’s a high character guy, but Musgrave is a bust and it looks like the DC is too. If Freeman can’t get it going we’ll have a new coaching staff and a new QB next year.

  35. conormacleod says: Oct 18, 2013 1:23 PM

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers 0 5 0
    ————————————
    I see the QB change has done wonders down south.

  36. gripless says: Oct 18, 2013 1:23 PM

    Well, the good news is our offense is being elevated to the college level. When did Frazier and Musgrave get the boot?

  37. titansbro says: Oct 18, 2013 1:26 PM

    This league is funny. For a lot of guys (Manning, Luck, Rodgers, etc are probably the exceptions), the situation you’re drafted into makes all the difference. You think Tom Brady becomes Tom Brady if he were drafted into a situation like this? I strongly doubt it. On the flip side of that, if Freeman, who has shown some promise, was drafted by a guy like Belichek & a situation like NE he’d probably be pretty damn good right now. How many promising QB careers are ruined because they are drafted into awful situations & by awful coaches?

  38. qdog112 says: Oct 18, 2013 1:26 PM

    obamareallysucks says:
    Oct 18, 2013 12:48 PM
    maybe because you are not that good. nothing but dump-off passes when you have let your team get behind by so much due to your inefficiency. affirmative action only works in the government world, not on a football field.
    ************************
    If not for affirmative action in the NFL, there’d be a lot of white guys looking for jobs a bouncers. That said, if Obama really sucks, what does it say about the losers that he’s faced? He keeps kicking their asses at every turn. SHUTDOWN THIS!!!

  39. ma5terbla5t3r says: Oct 18, 2013 1:27 PM

    Freemon is leading this team to glory. It reminds me of Kurt Warner taking over with the Rams in 1999. This kid has wheels and a cannon arm. Peterson will open up the field big time for Freemon, who can make plays from pretty much anywhere.

  40. laxcoach37 says: Oct 18, 2013 1:28 PM

    Oh No !

    I just noticed the “logivalvoicesays” character just took on another new name as G35Phin This really sucks for all us intelligent Dolphins Fans. Trust me…. Santana Moss is not the 5th best QB in the league ;)

  41. seattlecoug says: Oct 18, 2013 1:30 PM

    This guy is a lot like RGMe — never done anything and just keeps talking about how good he is…. bums, both of them.

  42. gogatorsjohn says: Oct 18, 2013 1:30 PM

    Average QB, wish him the best. I agree with earlier comment: not as bad as Schiano wanted him but probably not as good as Freeman thinks he is. But can he be a winner in Minnesota? I don’t see why not as long as you have AD. He is an upgrade from Ponder.

  43. 6ball says: Oct 18, 2013 1:33 PM

    .

    There was zero chance of Freeman returning to the Bucs next season after his performance in the first three games. With that being a certainty why not give the reps to Glennon so you know what you have at QB before the next draft?

    The Bucs are a work in progress and were never going to be a serious contender this season anyways.

    .

  44. zam1104 says: Oct 18, 2013 1:45 PM

    Apparently the formulators of the quarterback rating didn’t think you were the guy either.

    Will this guy ever take responsibility for anything? Good riddance. Lots of luck Minnesota fans. Don’t say we didn’t warn ya.

  45. zam1104 says: Oct 18, 2013 1:46 PM

    Freeman is the 2013 model of the Tebow

  46. backdapack4evr says: Oct 18, 2013 1:46 PM

    When Josh heard the Vikings wanted him, he should have figured out his career was over. That’s where all the bad and washed up QB’s end up!!
    I don’t think Mini could even compete with colleges with freeman!!!
    Tebow is next!!

  47. cas5875 says: Oct 18, 2013 1:46 PM

    FREEMAN HAS WHEELS… LMAO…

    research masterblaster, don’t stereotype. He has about as much wheels as Byron Leftwich.

    Freeman is what he is, his stats all fall in line with exactly what he produced in college.

    Less than 60% completion rate, 1.2:1 TD/INT ratio, 11.8 YPC.

    His NFL averages after 4 years as a starter are almost identical in every way to his averages of 3 years starting at Kansas State.

    No growth whatsoever.

  48. saint970 says: Oct 18, 2013 1:46 PM

    Every QB looks bad when their receivers drop passes.

  49. cunninghampeetemcnabbvick says: Oct 18, 2013 1:48 PM

    Cause if ever there was a coach a struggling QB would want to play for, Leslie Frazier is that guy! You only have to remember 2 plays. Hand it off to AP or look disappointed after the other team scores.

  50. poiuyt7 says: Oct 18, 2013 1:51 PM

    “It’s just been an awesome deal, being blessed, having the opportunity to come play with an organization like Minnesota.”
    ==========
    An organization like Minnesota – he says that like it’s a good thing.

  51. dasboat says: Oct 18, 2013 1:51 PM

    I just listened to this interview. Freeman could barely string a full sentence together. Tough to picture him inspiring an offense.

  52. jrbdmb says: Oct 18, 2013 1:53 PM

    According to Schiano, Glennon give the Bucs a better chance to win right now.

    They then go out and lose to two of the weaker opponents on their schedule. So how’s that whole winning right now thing working out in Tampa?

  53. tjacks7 says: Oct 18, 2013 1:53 PM

    Is it possible he meant to say the Vikings offense is similar to the one he ran in Pop Warner instead of college? That seems more likely.

  54. pigskinaholic says: Oct 18, 2013 1:58 PM

    I think a move was exactly what this kid needed.

    South Florida offers much more in the way of distractions.

    If Josh can use this as a turning point and play like he’s able to. Vikings fans will be happy.

    It’s not like you gave up anything to get him either.

    In the words of Randy Moss “Straight cash homey”

  55. justchuckn says: Oct 18, 2013 2:02 PM

    Walter White voice “Its all in the chemistry”

  56. captainstagger says: Oct 18, 2013 2:04 PM

    Hey Vikings fan, welcome to the Freeman roller coaster. Sure he’ll throw a pretty deep ball from time to time, but most of those are jump balls. And he might pick up a 1st down with his legs once a game. But when you see him stare down his first read, one hop screen passes, and return to the bench after a pick 6 with an apathetic “oh well” aloof smile…..you will understand Bucs fan’s frustration. Potential only means you have never done anything.

  57. ieverviking says: Oct 18, 2013 2:06 PM

    People seem to forget that when the Vikings drafted Ponder, he was the best option out of all the rest that fit their type of offense. He was the one that was up to speed with the fundamentals of a WCO from having run it in college. Same with Josh Freeman. The Vikings were/are not gonna change from the WCO without having to be changing the from those fundamentals to something else. It would involve a large turn over in the type of players you need for whatever new type offense you have.

  58. thundastormz says: Oct 18, 2013 2:11 PM

    Have u seen the Vikings plays sheet? Pop Warner is right!

  59. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Oct 18, 2013 2:16 PM

    cas5875 says:Oct 18, 2013 1:46 PM

    His NFL averages after 4 years as a starter are almost identical in every way to his averages of 3 years starting at Kansas State.

    No growth whatsoever.
    _______

    It seems to me that if you can put up the same numbers in the NFL that you put up in college, you’ve probably grown quite a bit. You see, it’s harder to succeed in the NFL than it is in college.

  60. bloodisred says: Oct 18, 2013 2:31 PM

    I don’t know; 3400, 3500 and 4000 yards in successive years tells me the dude can play.

  61. selmonfan63 says: Oct 18, 2013 2:34 PM

    Freeman in 2014 talking about his time in Minnesota : “They didn’t see me as the guy.”

  62. afcdomination says: Oct 18, 2013 2:38 PM

    the guy can play at a high level. he isn’t matt cassel. he does have first round talent, and has sh own it in this league.

    thing is, he needs the right environment and the right group of guys

    as of now, it does seem a bit vince young like, but we will see if he can make it work.

  63. youallrfools says: Oct 18, 2013 2:40 PM

    bucrightoff says: Oct 18, 2013 12:55 PM

    Josh Freeman is effectively the bigger armed, less accurate version of Christian Ponder. Glennon did something in his second start that Josh Freeman has done once his last 18 starts: Hit over 60% competion, the level thats considered average for a QB.
    ———————————————————-
    As soon as you compared any QB in the league to Christian Ponder, you lost all credibility. You probably have never once watched him play. Even when he completed passes they were horribly inaccurate.

    And it doesn’t matter who plays QB in TB. Good luck winning anything with Schiano hah.

  64. youallrfools says: Oct 18, 2013 2:42 PM

    Its funny how Bucs fans are all acting like jaded lovers.

    I don’t have much faith in Freeman, but you guys need to get over it. Your coach ran your QB out of town.

  65. packersarethebest says: Oct 18, 2013 2:51 PM

    Schiaron better hope that Freeman is a just in Minnesota too, otherwise he can start packing.

  66. jamesdudley200 says: Oct 18, 2013 2:54 PM

    You had 4 years to prove that you were the guy. ok so you’ve had to deal with three different offensive scemes in those three years but your playing has been just horrible. dumped passes, inaccurate throwing, record interceptions last year, poor decision making. NFL coaches don’t last 4 years under those conditions and granted as a bucs fan im sure we will be looking for another coach. Its just very disappointing to be a bucs fan entering the season under all these issues. We really wanted a season!!

  67. boyshole25 says: Oct 18, 2013 2:55 PM

    Good pickup by the Vikings ponder is trash and the bucs will regret that they lost their franchise qb when schiano gets canned after this year and they have to start from scratch without a qb of head coach

  68. stealthjunk says: Oct 18, 2013 3:07 PM

    “It’s just been an awesome deal, being blessed, having the opportunity to come play with an organization like Minnesota.”

    Said no one ever?

  69. coseybedaman says: Oct 18, 2013 3:25 PM

    Josh was just fine as a qb before Schiano’s crew came to Tampa. That’s no coincidence. Lavonte David single handedly lost the jets game after josh lead them to victory. The defense lost the saints game after josh gave them the lead with a minute left. Then Schiano starts Glennon at home against Arizona and Philly INTENTIONALLY because those were winnable games for him to make the change. The bucs are two bonehead plays and a QB change away from being 4-2. Freeman is not the problem with this team.

  70. minnesoulja says: Oct 18, 2013 3:39 PM

    he has the right attitude and we are happy to have him.

    Everyone up here is waiting for a chance to serve all these hypothetical prognostications back to you by the spoonful so you can eat these words.

    Its not a guarantee to happen, but what qualifies any of us to ASSUME what will happen? The games have to be played first. We will all watch. Some will be right, some will be wrong.

    When its all said and done, things happen in the NFL that make us change our tunes on our teams and favorite players just because we want to be a part of something bigger than ourselves. So stick by your team and root for ALL players to stay healthy and compete at a high level.

    We want to beat the best, when they are at their best.

    God Bless America and Skol Baby Skol!

  71. pftmaniac says: Oct 18, 2013 3:47 PM

    The Bucs are going to have a chance to get a real GM and Head Coach to draft a real Franchise QB in 2014, so they won’t miss Josh any more than Atlanta misses Mike Vick.

  72. jwcarlson says: Oct 18, 2013 3:50 PM

    ieverviking says:
    Oct 18, 2013 2:06 PM
    People seem to forget that when the Vikings drafted Ponder, he was the best option out of all the rest that fit their type of offense. He was the one that was up to speed with the fundamentals of a WCO from having run it in college. Same with Josh Freeman. The Vikings were/are not gonna change from the WCO without having to be changing the from those fundamentals to something else. It would involve a large turn over in the type of players you need for whatever new type offense you have.

    —————————-

    So dropping a top 15 draft pick on the same guy they could have got in the second round was the right thing to do?

  73. 300pack says: Oct 18, 2013 3:56 PM

    He could be a really good QB with the right coaching, but I don’t think he will get that with the current coaching staff in Minnesota.

  74. genericuser8888 says: Oct 18, 2013 3:56 PM

    Freeman and Schiano are both at fault. The team will follow the example that leadership sets. QB + Coach are usually the top leaders on the team.

    Brady + Belichick = greatness.
    Brees + Payton = greatness.
    Schiano + Freeman = …well…let’s not say it.

    The Bucs play “yard ball” – That is, there is no discipline. They commit penalties when they shouldn’t, it’s easy to predict who they were going to throw to, the defense seems more concerned with making big hits and injuring other players than with tackling…they just seem like an undisciplined team.

    You’ve got a coach who doesn’t know how to implement order on that team, and you had a QB (Freeman) who had loads of natural talent but did not have the winning attitude or work ethic of a Brady/Brees/Manning.

    Freeman shares some blame in Tampa Bay. I’m not sold that he will be any better in Minnesota, but we’ll see. I don’t see him as one of those guys who mysteriously becomes a top-tier QB midway through his career.

  75. frezfram says: Oct 18, 2013 4:21 PM

    He may do okay against a team that is struggling, like the Giants. I wonder how he will do against a better team like the Packers coming in next week. But sadly, the Vikings have had a long history of not picking good quarter backs. Look how many QB’s have come and gone in just the last five years.

  76. deeppurple23 says: Oct 18, 2013 4:22 PM

    You, the Viking offensive scheme is AS complicated as a college scheme… Thanks for confirming what I already thought.

  77. buc8 says: Oct 18, 2013 4:25 PM

    I don’t think Schiano wanted Freeman to fail. I think he wanted him to show up. Say what you want about Schiano, but any coach needs to see his QB as a leader and someone who takes his job seriously. I wasn’t seeing that in Freeman. He has talent but I doubt he has desire.

  78. liquidmuse says: Oct 18, 2013 4:27 PM

    Yeah Joshie, if you were the guy, you wouldn’t be on your second coach. You were in command on the field when the team lost 10 straight in pretty much horrific fashion in 2011. Your lifetime QB rating dipped below 80 last year, & you haven’t led your team to the playoffs in 4 years (i.e., ever). You had a chance to correct EVERYTHING this year, & you wilted like a delicate flower, posting some of your worst numbers ever. As much as Schiano is a tool, he already saw your body of work, & decided he knew how that story was gonna end (again).

  79. norseman69 says: Oct 18, 2013 4:40 PM

    The NFL has an internal quota of a certain number of black QB’s starting and on the roster..

    that’s a fact..

  80. cursedvikings1998 says: Oct 18, 2013 4:43 PM

    NY Giants 1-6.

  81. markburst says: Oct 18, 2013 4:48 PM

    Based on how everything went down at the end, one could infer that Schiano sabotaged Freeman from the get go … his ego needed his QB to be the guy he brought in. The sentiment that Schiano wanted to bring in his own guy was talked about as soon as Schiano was hired as the head coach. Then Freeman proceeded to regress…

  82. bunjy96 says: Oct 18, 2013 4:53 PM

    godofwine330 says: Oct 18, 2013 12:55 PM

    I say again, a coach’s belief in the QB does wonders for some. He was progressing until Schiano showed up. He had 4000 yards last year, but he wasn’t as good as he was the year before. As his confidence waned so did his play.

    …..

    No one could have done more for his confidence then Morris. How do you account for Freeman’s oses dive in 2011 and his best statistjcal year under Schiano

    It all Freeman, his mood swings, his dealer and his partying.

  83. blitzthepig says: Oct 18, 2013 4:59 PM

    If he would have played better he’d still be in Tampa.
    From hanging out on the streets to playing god awful.
    Freeman is lucky to have got all his cash and then some from the Vikings. I wonder if he’s wondering how Ponder feels. He’s doing to Ponder what Glennon supposedly has done to him. Just play better and you keep your job.

  84. norrinradd12 says: Oct 18, 2013 5:17 PM

    Bucs have lost 14 games in a row when Freeman DOESN’T start.

  85. brobokil says: Oct 18, 2013 5:27 PM

    NO player change will make ANY difference until Musgrave is GONE! At this point I think we need an entirely new coaching staff. I’d keep Lezlie as DC, but it never works that way in the NFL. No one downgrades from head coach and stays with the team.

  86. thatswhatimsayin says: Oct 18, 2013 5:40 PM

    Well, the good thing is… Freeman, Frazier and Musgrave all have the same deadpan demeamor. For crap sake, they make Joe Mauer look like Bobcat Goldthwait

  87. wdnemesis says: Oct 18, 2013 5:41 PM

    Let’s all shut up and watch Freeman on Mon night football.

  88. filthymcnasty1 says: Oct 18, 2013 6:29 PM

    The thing that makes Freeman a great fit for the Vikings is that he already comes pre tainted with the rancid stench of losing.

  89. filthymcnasty1 says: Oct 18, 2013 6:38 PM

    Rick Spielman is a Magician says:
    Oct 18, 2013 1:19 PM
    Sometimes a guy goes to a new team and is better than he ever looked like he could be with his old team (e.g., Drew Brees).

    ******************************************

    Comparing Josh Freeman to Drew Brees is why Viking fans are known as the dumbest on the planet.

  90. coulterclay says: Oct 18, 2013 6:45 PM

    Yeah Joshie, if you were the guy, you wouldn’t be on your second coach.

    Correction: This is his 3rd coach, please get it right.
    You were in command on the field when the team lost 10 straight in pretty much horrific fashion in 2011.

    Yet again you need another correction: He may have been on the field, but he doesn’t play defense. He put up 4000 yards last season with 27/17 on td/int. So he didn’t play that horrible.

    Your lifetime QB rating dipped below 80 last year, & you haven’t led your team to the playoffs in 4 years (i.e., ever).

    This one I can only give you half. it did dip below 80, and yet he still put up franchise setting numbers. He lost out on tiebreakers one year, and last year in reality, had it not been for the defense he could of possibly made it. but then again hindsight is 20/20

    You had a chance to correct EVERYTHING this year, & you wilted like a delicate flower, posting some of your worst numbers ever.

    Yes, he did in fact post some bad numbers, but how much of that can be blamed squarely on him? How many crucial drops did Ogletree have? or how about the 55.5555 mil man? How effective was that o-line at giving him time to throw? How was Doug Martin doing in the running game?
    As much as Schiano is a tool, he already saw your body of work, & decided he knew how that story was gonna end (again).

    The story will end with Schiano being fired, he hung his TB coaching career on hoping that the QB he pined over since he was in college would be the next great QB to come out of this years draft, so far, it hasn’t happened, and not likely it will this year anyways.

  91. rickjohnson26 says: Oct 18, 2013 7:52 PM

    I am a big Bucs fan, we drafted him and your gonna see Josh is gonna tear it up! Watch and see the Vikings have just hit the jackpot! Freeman has a cannon, and AD running the ball, the Bucs with egg on our face. Good luck Josh!

  92. brutusmandingo says: Oct 18, 2013 9:52 PM

    @rickjohnson26. Haha right who is he gonna throw the ball to? No Vincent no Williams and he never hits his 3rd and 4th options will consistency! As a Buccaneers Fan there will be no egg on my face . It’s funny 4weeks all of Tampa including local media wanted Freeman gone. I live and work in Tampa. Time to move on from Joshua T Freeman and Support Glennon who looks like he wants to lead and be a qb. Napoleon Dynamite has Fire something Josh never had he still sounds passive and lost. Hell Jeff Garcia was more of a leader. Do I want him to fail never I wish him Well but as a Buccaneers fan I’m sick of hearing about him

  93. axespray says: Oct 19, 2013 12:48 AM

    Rodgers/Steve Young had to take over for legends and put up with a lot of crap…. they didn’t quit on their coach/teammates/fans, they worked harder.

    Josh Freeman is a quitter.

  94. rickjohnson26 says: Oct 21, 2013 8:15 PM

    @brutusmandingo face a little eggy right now? Lets check the tape, freeman gone, Martian out for the the year, bucs still winless. The last part is for josh to be a good fit for the Vikings. Then ( in my darth vader voice) Schianos failer will be compleat. I mean come on bru, we are the Bucs, Toney D got canned, Sapp got traded to the raiders, and we watched Morrris try to turn a safety into a linebacker. Personal mistakes are what we do best. Lets not be soo quick to drink the Kool-aid we have a solid secondary frount four rotation is good, we need one playmaker at the 2nd level and our D-fence is golden. QB was not our issue and now we have to start all over. I am behind the team as I am every season, which make me and if you think about it you as we’ll an exspert on bad personnel moves. I cant lie though i admire your blind optimism to follow flawed decision making. but thats the life of a Bucs fan, and thats why I love you. keep the faith..Boom boom boom GO BUCS!

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