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Belichick says Jets were pushing, too, on field-goal tries

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This week’s Controversy That Won’t Die (and We Sort of Like It) relates to the enforcement of the rule against pushing players on the line of scrimmage who are defending field-goal attempts.

On Tuesday, Patriots coach Bill Belichick suggested that the Jets were doing the same thing that the Pats were caught doing in overtime, which gave the Jets a Mulligan after Nick Folk missed a 56-yard field goal in overtime.

“Well, I mean, since they were using the play themselves I don’t even know about all that,” Belichick told reporters regarding the suggestion that the Jets alerted officials to New England’s habit of violating the new rule.  “But basically we’re just moving on here.”

But the Jets weren’t using it on Sunday.  Sure, it appears via the NFL Game Rewind coaches film that there was a quick and fairly mild one-armed shove by one Jets player on another Jets player.  But that was nothing like the maneuver from Chris Jones, who played the back end of a two-man horse costume and shoved the ass of the guy playing the front end of the horse costume.

And it happened directly in front of the official who immediately grabbed his flag and threw it high into the air.

Regardless of whether the Jets or anyone else did or didn’t do it in that game or other games, stuff happens all the time that should have drawn a flag but doesn’t.  That hardly provides a credible basis for complaining when a rule is blatantly violated, and when the official sees it.

Because it happened directly in front of him.

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  1. thestrategyexpert says: Oct 23, 2013 1:33 PM

    That’s funny every time I record interesting plays I record the time stamp of the point in the game so that I can point somebody to finding those times. But Belichick moved on just as fast as he brought it up.

    That’s like an illegal pick play, take that crap back and step back ten yards Bill!

  2. joetoronto says: Oct 23, 2013 1:34 PM

    He really needs to stop crying, it doesn’t look good on him at all.

    Let it go, Bill.

    SMH.

  3. tokyosandblaster says: Oct 23, 2013 1:35 PM

    What a baby.

    He is one of the worst coaches. Hasn’t succeeded since he had to stop cheating.

    >

  4. grabgrabgrab says: Oct 23, 2013 1:36 PM

    ”But basically we’re just moving on here.”

    Doesn’t really like you’re moving on, Bill.

  5. joe91898 says: Oct 23, 2013 1:38 PM

    Why is this still being talked about. If they are just moving on, then shut up about it. It was a penalty. You got called for it. You lost. Move on. The Pats should be 4-3 because they got away with one the week before. Move on.

  6. yousuxxors says: Oct 23, 2013 1:38 PM

    this man makes it so hard to like him

  7. jusford says: Oct 23, 2013 1:41 PM

    Nobody likes a tattle tail.
    Funny, needed to mention “they did it too” to set up the “we’re moving on” phrase. He’s such a genius.

  8. scrp2 says: Oct 23, 2013 1:41 PM

    18 and 1

  9. j0esixpack says: Oct 23, 2013 1:41 PM

    After “Spygate” – when the Patriots were singled out for doing what every other organization continues to do to this day – specifically film play calling, I think Belichick is sensitive to reminding officials that they can’t pick and choose when to enforce rules.

    PFT itself cited uncalled pushing in the Dolphins game.

    As far as Spygate, there is no question, that in the first game of the 2007 season, the Patriots violated a rule change that came out in 2006 citing WHERE signal filming can take place (no longer from the sidelines – though it continues from the stands even today – which is why coordinators still cover their mouths.)

    Seeing how many fans and supposedly intelligent football analysts who can’t understand the facts around “Spygate” (and also think that a 2006 rule change should forfeit 2001-2004 Super Bowl wins) you can’t blame Belichick for wanting the officials to stop picking and choosing when to enforce certain rules.

  10. red26sox says: Oct 23, 2013 1:41 PM

    tokyosandblaster says:
    Oct 23, 2013 1:35 PM
    What a baby.

    He is one of the worst coaches. Hasn’t succeeded since he had to stop cheating.

    _________
    He went 11-5 post-spygate with Matt Cassell. There is not one other coach in the league who could lose a franchise QB in game 1 and pull that off.

  11. ampats says: Oct 23, 2013 1:41 PM

    Nice article to rehash what Belichick said yesterday morning at 9:45.

    I also believe he followed that by “We’re moving on which he is weekly mantra.”

  12. greenlantern75 says: Oct 23, 2013 1:42 PM

    Hey BB,

    Somehow when I told the cop who pulled me over for speeding this morning that there were at least 5 other guys speeding around me, that didn’t get me out of the ticket…That’s odd, seems like such a solid response…

    But whatever…I’m just moving on…

  13. freepretzels says: Oct 23, 2013 1:43 PM

    Oh Coach Hoodie. So butthurt when you don’t get your way.

  14. dirtdawg54 says: Oct 23, 2013 1:45 PM

    Bill, did you use the same line of reasoning to explain to your now ex-wife why you cheated on her? “Hey, my neighbour cheated on his wife”. How’d that go over? That so.

    Your team never should have been in the position to even risk losing at that point anyway. You had a chance to put the Jets away and you didn’t execute. And that’s how teams end up losing on a bad call, bad penalty, what have you.

  15. shatho1 says: Oct 23, 2013 1:49 PM

    always trying to say the other guys started it. shut up whine bag u lost

  16. spygatedontexist says: Oct 23, 2013 1:50 PM

    karma is a bitch
    #cheaters
    #spygate dnt exist lol

  17. green41563 says: Oct 23, 2013 1:50 PM

    Pathetic. But just for the sake of argument, suppose the Jets had done it, too. So what? Officials miss calls all the time. It doesn’t mean that the Patriots *didn’t* commit the penalty.

  18. logicalvoicesays says: Oct 23, 2013 1:51 PM

    Top 5 HCs alltime in Professional Football – Joe Gibbs, Vince Lombardi, George Allen, John Madden and Mike Shanahan. In that order.

  19. keltictim says: Oct 23, 2013 1:53 PM

    A question was asked he answered. And you guys cry when he doesn’t answer questions too so which way is he supposed to go answer or don’t answer cause I’m sure he gives a flying donkey what you guys think. Ps 3 rings 5 trips to the Super Bowl in the last 12 years any other team had that kinda success? Crickets.

  20. slick1ru2 says: Oct 23, 2013 1:54 PM

    And he knows this how? Mr. NFL Signal Calls Films.

  21. lawyermalloy says: Oct 23, 2013 1:54 PM

    Cheater, Cheater, Pumpkin eater!

  22. assuredmutualdestruction says: Oct 23, 2013 1:55 PM

    Bill…YOU TAPED OTHER TEAMS PRACTICES…please stop crying like a Baby now. Even if the refs missed the other call, it doesn’t mean the call against your team wasn’t legit.

  23. nolahxc says: Oct 23, 2013 1:56 PM

    The refs basically handed the Patriots a win vs. the Saints the very week before. You didn’t hear Payton crying about it.

    Deal with it, bro!

  24. jpb12 says: Oct 23, 2013 1:57 PM

    I’ll wait for a real reporter to actually go through footage all the special teams play by Jets, Patriots, Saints, Bills, Cowboys etc to see just how many teams didn’t know how to interpret this rule.

  25. jonny42671 says: Oct 23, 2013 2:00 PM

    Pats and Saints are cheats and their Super Bowls will ALWAYS be tarnished.

  26. 4ever85 (aka Butch DeadLift) says: Oct 23, 2013 2:00 PM

    Boy, Bill really likes his Ad Hominem Tu Quoque.

    It’s not enough that God-dell burned the evidence of his cheating and gifted them a SB berth with that BS tuck rule which no longer exists?

    (we all know that was the NFL sticking it to Al Davis).

    Just take your loss like a man. Next thing you know, the Pats are going to be saying “They didn’t win, we lost” like the Pack.

  27. zombiepatriot says: Oct 23, 2013 2:02 PM

    I like how the ninnies on here will complain to no end that Belichick doesn’t answer questions from reporters but when he does answer a question from a reporter those same doofuses complain about him not letting the issue die.

  28. garyman1 says: Oct 23, 2013 2:03 PM

    I never realized what a sniveling, little baby Belichick was until now.

  29. bluebongzilla says: Oct 23, 2013 2:03 PM

    Starting to get look than a little pathetic there, Bill.

  30. whatjusthapped says: Oct 23, 2013 2:04 PM

    He is morally bankrupt and the karma from Spygate has yet to be fully exacted.

  31. peytonsneck18 says: Oct 23, 2013 2:05 PM

    waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahh but mom he hit me first!!!

  32. steviefoosball says: Oct 23, 2013 2:06 PM

    I’m thinking a Whining Crybaby Competition between Bill Belichick and Jim Harbaugh live on NFL Network. Epic!

  33. duneroad says: Oct 23, 2013 2:06 PM

    Did the tight end the jets picked up after the pats released him play special teams when he was there

  34. jnbnet says: Oct 23, 2013 2:08 PM

    assuredmutualdestruction says:
    Oct 23, 2013 1:55 PM
    Bill…YOU TAPED OTHER TEAMS PRACTICES…please stop crying like a Baby now. Even if the refs missed the other call, it doesn’t mean the call against your team wasn’t legit.

    ————————————————-
    And where did you get this information? The Boston Herald did in fact report that the Patriots had taped a Rams practice, but when they found out they were wrong, they placed a full page add admiting they were wrong. Hack reporting…taking things out of context and not checking facts before going for the headline.

  35. abqpacker says: Oct 23, 2013 2:10 PM

    And if his team wasn’t smart enough to tell the refs to watch for it (like the Jets did), that’s their fault.

  36. harryhoop15 says: Oct 23, 2013 2:11 PM

    Referees can cost games in sports and they certainly cost the Patriots. The fact is it was a horrible call that should have never happened especially at this point in the game. You don’t make calls to determine the outcome of games. Belichick was right again its just that he doesnt suck up to the NFL competition committee like the others.

  37. xxwhodatxx says: Oct 23, 2013 2:12 PM

    After the “tuck rule” game the Pats have lost any and all reason to complain about obscure rules.

  38. dualprime says: Oct 23, 2013 2:14 PM

    red26sox says:
    Oct 23, 2013 1:41 PM
    He went 11-5 post-spygate with Matt Cassell. There is not one other coach in the league who could lose a franchise QB in game 1 and pull that off.
    —————————————-
    Colts seem to be doing okay after losing their franchise QB.

  39. grabgrabgrab says: Oct 23, 2013 2:16 PM

    j0esixpack says: Oct 23, 2013 1:41 PM

    After “Spygate” – when the Patriots were singled out for doing what every other organization continues to do to this day….”

    *********
    Wow! Still whining about Spygate??? The rest of us have moved on. It appears as though being unable to move on from past issues is a THING in New England, like Joe with Spygate, and Bill with this correctly called penalty.

    #GetOverIt!

  40. jetsjetsjetsnow says: Oct 23, 2013 2:17 PM

    It’s funny because Patriots made their field goals so WHAT IS YOUR POINT!!! whether Jets did it or not (even though PFT put that idea to rest in its best context above)!!!!! It’s just some chessy cheaty smokescreeny way of avoid having to have any class about losing. The Bill Belichick way!

    As per NJ.com below I think the following says it all…

    The NFL sent out tapes, writings, even videos so that teams can understand the rule. Additionally, the referee stated he warned the Pats during the game to stop doing it. Belichick told the ref that warned him that he didn’t know what he was talking about and was wrong. Well, like the illegal video taping, Belichick was wrong again! As proof, Belichick, came out Monday and agreed with the refs call. There you have it. It’s over.

    (Me again) Now its Wednesday and he’s being his best version of his devious caniving no class self again…

    Thanks Bill for giving us all of your transparent self…

  41. thewizardsrevenge says: Oct 23, 2013 2:18 PM

    Hasn’t succeeded since he had to stop cheating

    Double digit wins every season since you were reading Dr. Suess.

    I think he’s succeeded.

  42. thewizardsrevenge says: Oct 23, 2013 2:19 PM

    Colts seem to be doing okay after losing their franchise QB

    Cassel prepped as the backup that whole preseason.

    Not exactly apples to apples.

  43. surfinbird1 says: Oct 23, 2013 2:19 PM

    The thing that stinks to high heaven about this whole thing is that it has been going on since game one by a lot of teams. Every rule in the book is a discretionary call by an official. They wait until well into the season to call it on a game that has gone into overtime and decide the game on that????? It’s funny that the Dolphins warned the officials that the Ravens are doing it but nobody ever called it in that game. So that turd Ryan tells the official, watch that field goal and it gets called. The Jets did the same thing during the game. C’mon man!!

  44. drgreenstreak says: Oct 23, 2013 2:22 PM

    Shutup Billy!

  45. jolink653 says: Oct 23, 2013 2:27 PM

    @ dualprime Actually the Colts went 2-14 after losing their franchise quarterback to a season-ending injury before the season, and they had more than enough time to prepare because they knew he wasn’t gonna play…Brady went down in the first half of the first game and the Patriots still went 11-5 with a quarterback that hadn’t started a game since high school

  46. dennis2488 says: Oct 23, 2013 2:28 PM

    Lets face it, it was a pretty sleazy thing to call at that point in the game. Why didn’t they call it earlier in the game on the jets or patriots and why hasn’t it been called in a game all year? Nobody could figure out why the jets would attempt a 56 yarder in that situation, bit Rex Ryan knew he could bully the officials into that call. I never thought I would say it but good coaching on Rex’s part.

  47. greygooseandsprite says: Oct 23, 2013 2:29 PM

    Luck is franchise schmuck!! Cassel has done squat since leaving pats. Even benched for freeman……..

  48. demons87 says: Oct 23, 2013 2:32 PM

    Context. A reported should understand that concept.

    The question he was asked was about the report that the Jets had given the officials the heads up that the Pats were pushing. His was reponse, “Well, I mean, since they were using the play themselves I don’t even know about all that.”

    He didn’t go out of his way to comment on it, he was asked a direct question. Also, if you watched the Jets push, that was also right in front of an official. I agree the push was slight and not nearly as obvious as Jones push, but if as Blandino says, any push, and he emphasized any, should be penalized, then the Jets guy should have as well, if it was seen.

    Here’s the question I have. Why has there been no questioning of the NFL on why they changed the video and the wording on Sunday. If that was communicated to the world on the video, is it safe to assume that it was also communicated to the coaches in the same manner. Why is Blandino not being called out for that?

  49. prospero63 says: Oct 23, 2013 2:34 PM

    Man, you NE media guys sure are having a hard time accepting that the Patriots can actually lose games from time to time.

  50. mrphatal says: Oct 23, 2013 2:41 PM

    Next thing you are going to hear from Belichick;

    They were filming our signals…
    They were hitting our Quarterback.
    We can’t lose!

  51. j0esixpack says: Oct 23, 2013 2:42 PM

    The joke is on the Jets

    By winning a game against the Patriots they probably ensured they’ll have Wrecks Ryan as head coach for the next few years.

  52. j0esixpack says: Oct 23, 2013 2:44 PM

    grabgrabgrab says: Wow! Still whining about Spygate??? The rest of us have moved on. It appears as though being unable to move on from past issues is a THING in New England, like Joe with Spygate, and Bill with this correctly called penalty.

    #GetOverIt!

    ——————-

    Good advice – look at all the Jets and other team fans going on about Spygate here.

    They don’t even understand it – nor the logic that violating a 2006 rule in 2007 doesn’t invalidate the Super Bowls over every other team prior to the rule change in 2006.

    #idiots

  53. jnbnet says: Oct 23, 2013 2:45 PM

    dualprime says:
    Oct 23, 2013 2:14 PM
    red26sox says:
    Oct 23, 2013 1:41 PM
    He went 11-5 post-spygate with Matt Cassell. There is not one other coach in the league who could lose a franchise QB in game 1 and pull that off.
    —————————————-
    Colts seem to be doing okay after losing their franchise QB.

    —————————————————
    With Payton out, the colts tanked. They now have Luck who is a franchise QB.

  54. mrphatal says: Oct 23, 2013 2:45 PM

    Bill…YOU TAPED OTHER TEAMS PRACTICES…please stop crying like a Baby now. Even if the refs missed the other call, it doesn’t mean the call against your team wasn’t legit.

    ————————————————-
    And where did you get this information? The Boston Herald did in fact report that the Patriots had taped a Rams practice, but when they found out they were wrong, they placed a full page add admiting they were wrong. Hack reporting…taking things out of context and not checking facts before going for the headline.
    ————————————————-
    We’re Sorry (hehehehe we stole 2 Super Bowls, hehehe) That we taped the Eagles and the Rams practices at the Superbowl.

    Of Course the report came from Boston, would they turn against their beloved Patsies??

  55. patriotinvasion says: Oct 23, 2013 2:46 PM

    scrp2 says:
    Oct 23, 2013 1:41 PM
    18 and 1
    _______

    1 and 6. #TwoTimeFlukerbowlChamps

  56. patriotinvasion says: Oct 23, 2013 2:50 PM

    assuredmutualdestruction says:
    Oct 23, 2013 1:55 PM
    Bill…YOU TAPED OTHER TEAMS PRACTICES…please stop crying like a Baby now. Even if the refs missed the other call, it doesn’t mean the call against your team wasn’t legit.
    ___

    Which “PRACTICE” did the Patriots ever tape? Hello?

    What is this the telephone game? How did hand signals in plain view to everyone in the stadium get morphed into taping practices?

  57. coachjohnharbaugh says: Oct 23, 2013 2:53 PM

    i can tell you this…
    we left no doubt who was the better team in the AFCCG

    #champions

  58. usa98j30t4 says: Oct 23, 2013 2:55 PM

    I’ll take Bill over that clown that the Jets have coaching them. That guy is a friggin joke of a coach.

    Take your cheesy win Rex. Hopefully, it’s the last one of the year. You are just a classless sack of …gotta go do a Rex…….

  59. walkinginthewasteland says: Oct 23, 2013 3:14 PM

    logicalvoicesays spewed: Oct 23, 2013 1:51 PM

    Top 5 HCs alltime in Professional Football – Joe Gibbs, Vince Lombardi, George Allen, John Madden and Mike Shanahan. In that order.

    ____________

    Not. Top 6.

    Vince Lombardi, Paul Brown, Chuck Noll, George Halas, Bill Walsh, Don Shula. Not in any particular order.

  60. ohnoflorio says: Oct 23, 2013 3:14 PM

    BB hasn’t won a SB since spygate. He also hasn’t even said anything smart, BB has Tom Brady…w/out him, well just look at the early to mid 90′s playoffs

  61. mark0226 says: Oct 23, 2013 3:14 PM

    grabgrabgrab says:

    Doesn’t really like you’re moving on, Bill.

    Comments like this are silly. He was asked a direct question and provided an answer. He didn’t bring it up out of the blue, so it was the reporter that wouldn’t let him move on. I suppose to prove that he has moved on, he should have not answered the question (like usual) and then we could be talking about him never answering questions.

  62. walkinginthewasteland says: Oct 23, 2013 3:15 PM

    garyman1 says: Oct 23, 2013 2:03 PM

    I never realized what a sniveling, little baby Belichick was until now.

    _____________

    Really? Did you change meds or something? Its been obvious to the known universe for quite some time.

  63. flash1283 says: Oct 23, 2013 3:21 PM

    ohnoflorio says: Oct 23, 2013 3:14 PM

    BB hasn’t won a SB since spygate. He also hasn’t even said anything smart, BB has Tom Brady…w/out him, well just look at the early to mid 90′s playoffs

    You mean the early to mid 90′s playoffs the last time the Browns won a playoff game? And who was the head coach, oh yeah BB.

  64. mark0226 says: Oct 23, 2013 3:25 PM

    harryhoop15 says:

    “You don’t make calls to determine the outcome of games.”

    So, you are recommending that in 4Q or OT when the game is on the line, cheating (violating established NFL rules) is acceptable, that refs should not call PI, Holding, Unsportsman like conduct, offsides, illegal formation, delay of game or any of those silly rule violations? Got it.

  65. metintodd says: Oct 23, 2013 3:53 PM

    Seems like the Patriots are the NFL’s guinea pig to flag for bogus rule infractions. Seems like this rule has been violated all season by almost every team, but the NFL waits til the end of the game to flag the Patriots. What a joke. Seems like the NFL refs were ‘bullied’ by the Jets into calling that flag on the Pats. If the Jets can’t win legally, they might as well cheat then.

  66. metintodd says: Oct 23, 2013 3:55 PM

    And again, Spygate was the most bogus thing ever. Every team was videotaping. That’s why Goodell sent that memo about videotaping to every team in the NFL, not just the Pats. Because every team was videotaping and it was legal to videotape. People keep harping on this because I guess they need to tear down #1 because their own team stinks.

  67. Raider-in-PA says: Oct 23, 2013 3:55 PM

    waah-waah-waah!

    At least it didnt cost your team an advancement in the playoffs (tuck rule reference)

  68. ijahru says: Oct 23, 2013 4:13 PM

    assuredmutualdestruction says:
    Oct 23, 2013 1:55 PM
    Bill…YOU TAPED OTHER TEAMS PRACTICES…please stop crying like a Baby now.

    No they didn’t

  69. rcali says: Oct 23, 2013 4:36 PM

    I can’t believe this but Beli was simply out coached by Rex. The jets saw this on tape and informed the refs and the Pats didn’t do the same, assuming the jets were also stretching the rules or breaking them.

  70. dallascowboysdishingthereal says: Oct 23, 2013 5:04 PM

    Are you suggesting Belichick would try to cheat, uh, I mean get an unfair advantage? No never not him.

  71. billsfan1 says: Oct 23, 2013 5:55 PM

    As much as it pains me cause they beat us, year in and year out, I have to acknowledge his coaching prowess.. No question, his record is what it is but even he should realize that in this 12 or 13 year run, he has gotten the benefit of the call on more than one occasion. When you coach as long as him, it happens, sometimes for, sometimes against.. You need to move on and try to figure out why Brady seems off this year. Yeah he had two comebacks but even Pats fans have to admit, he is not his normal self – although he still finds way to win

  72. all4patriots says: Oct 23, 2013 6:07 PM

    That” fairly mild one-armed shove” launched a guy head-over heels, right over the long snapper Aiken

  73. cmdrsmooth says: Oct 23, 2013 6:22 PM

    I think Bill rather give up the Tuck game and one less ring than lose a game to the NYJ.

    Embarrassing.

  74. urworstnitemare58 says: Oct 24, 2013 2:24 PM

    @red26sox ,
    I thought the 49′ers do that last year?

  75. urworstnitemare58 says: Oct 24, 2013 2:26 PM

    did, not do. Got sidetracked there.

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