Greg Schiano: I understand fans’ frustration, but they can’t fix it

AP

Buccaneers coach Greg Schiano knows fans are calling for his firing after his team dropped to 0-7 on Thursday night. But Schiano wants the fans to buy into the idea that he and the players know what they need to do to turn things around.

“I have some say in how to fix it. The players have some say. The fans don’t,” Schiano said, via the Tampa Bay Times. “I understand their frustration totally. We’ve just got to give them a better product. That’s what it’s all about.”

Schiano also addressed several of the questions fans have been asking about whether Schiano can turn the team around.

“Have I lost the locker room? No,” Schiano said. “Are they listening? Yes. Are we getting everything we need out of them? Obviously not because we’re 0-7. Ultimately, we’ve got 61 guys in that locker room that I believe in and I very strongly feel they believe in me. Does belief get tested when you’re not having success? Yeah. I’m sure it gets tested both ways when someone misses a play. At the end of the day, these guys are busting their guts to do it. Why are we making a mistake? I always look first at myself. Somehow we didn’t communicate it clearly enough, whether it’s the importance of it or the urgency with which it needs to be done or the technique to it. Because I’m a coach, I always look at the coaching first.”

Schiano also seems to know that if the Bucs don’t turn things around in a hurry, everyone else will blame the coach first.

“When you don’t win, there are consequences. We need to get our wins. I said it the other day. We’ll get our share of wins. I believe we will,” Schiano said.

Schiano may believe it, but few others do. Schiano is looking increasingly like a coach who is about to lose his job, even if he insists he hasn’t lost his locker room.

102 responses to “Greg Schiano: I understand fans’ frustration, but they can’t fix it

  1. So wait, a couple of weeks ago the coaching staff said if the fans wanted to help they could show-up at 5:20a and then when they did show-up they didn’t let them in the building. Schiano also said the fans don’t know the difference between a zone and man to man. Schiano also said (in third person he said this 3-4 weeks ago) the team was laughingstock of the NFL before he got here and the Buccaneers needed Schiano and still need Schiano (again said in third person).

    So anyways as a fan I can’t help Jersey Trash (TM) but I can certainly help the ownership. Fire Schiano after his next lost to Seattle and give the fans something to look forward to for their next home game against the Dolphins on MNF.

    With that said however if Schiano is still the Bucs coach for that MNF game I buy a ticket and I will be there just to boo him out of the building. So Glazers, maybe wait a bit longer since you got one ticket sale here. Also Schiano gives the Bucs the best chance at the top overall pick – so maybe he’s worth keeping for the year.

  2. His comments all alone are completely sensible, but because its Greg Schiano who said it, I read this and think “Wow, this guy’s sounds like a dick”

    Perception in its purest form.

    I’m not trying to make a point by the way. The Buccaneers are 0-7. Schiano could have been a super nice and reasonable guy whom the players are 100% behind, and his job would still be in serious danger.

  3. People act like their are excellent NFL head coaches just walking sitting by their phones waiting for Tampa to call. Who are you going to get to come in there and turn the team around? Not like the Bucs are full of All-Pros. Cowher? Yeah right. Lovie Smith? Really think he can develop Glennon or a QB you get in the 2014 draft?
    Lane Kiffin? (sarcasm)

  4. Does he suck as a coach? Yes
    Does he apparently talk like this? Yes
    Reason why his players don’t respect him? Probably because this is annoying

  5. so if the tb fans quit attendance at home, it would not have any effect on the team right?
    Is that something Schiano can grasp? this guy is walking alone.

  6. Schiano is looking increasingly like a coach who is about to lose his job

    I like how you guys run what seems like 10 Shiano stories a day and near the end is always the ominous line of impending doom.

    I’ve never liked piling on a coach. He isn’t blocking or tackling. These players need to man up and win a game, because I think they’re buying in to a ready made excuse for them to fail.

  7. People act like their are excellent NFL head coaches just walking sitting by their phones waiting for Tampa to call. Who are you going to get to come in there and turn the team around? Not like the Bucs are full of All-Pros. Cowher? Yeah right. Lovie Smith? Really think he can develop Glennon or a QB you get in the 2014 draft?
    Lane Kiffin? (sarcasm)

    ———————————–

    There is way too much talent on this Bucs team to be sitting at 0-7 not saying that should have been Super Bowl contenders but with the talent they should have been fighting for a wild card not the first pic of the draft

  8. Apparently he doesn’t have much say, he hasn’t fixed it. But says he knows how? hmm, someone tell the fool he’s winless.

  9. None of the players are smiling or having any fun. I watched Cam & the Panthers. They are smiling and enjoying their work. Even when the Bucs make a great play, they just toss the ball to the ref and go back to the huddle with a blank stare on their faces. They are all going thru the motions, but nobody can get out from under his black cloud. King of Denial

  10. Your one Andy Reid away from a winning season. You’re a carbon copy of KC. Talent and no one on the team that knows how to use them

  11. Unless you are a high school, college or positional coach, you are not going to want to suffer through coaching for the Glazer children. It’s hard to get a real coach I want I put up with them. Maybe if they offer Revis money?

  12. At least the fans know where to start…

    And Coach, the fans can and will have a say…they stop buying due to the coach, the coach goes…it’s not that far from first season ticket renewal letters going out…

    The last act of a desperate coach = lecturing the fans…Schiano just jumped the shark in Tampa Bay…

  13. He’s simply in desperation mode at this point. Nothing he says matters one iota.

    The bigger question is does ownership keep the GM who hired this guy, cuz this isn’t one of those “it just didn’t work out” kinda deals. This was a monumental failure in every way possible to where the Buccaneer brand has taken a hit. The organization is back to being a joke.

    Who does that fall on?

  14. He’s old school. But is that a bad thing?

    Who could turn around a team, in a short time span, that committed to Josh Freeman as the face of the franchise?

    Did anyone watch MNF?

  15. Tampa has been at 0 and double digits before so the fans are a bit more sensitive than others. It guarantees you a top draft but if you have an incompetent front office, then the lousy season is all for not.

    It would help if they had a coach that showed some humility. Does Schiano self reflect at all. Does he know that the rahrah Singletary / Saban / Spurrier coaching formula does not work for the NFL athlete.

  16. and if Tebow was a Muslim….he’d be a starting QB in….

    JAX,TAMPA,ST.LOUIS,BUFFALO, HOUSTON and CHICAGO

  17. theres just something about this guy that makes him extremely unlikeable. I think his arrogance added to the fact that he took what couldve been a decent team and turned them into a total SH**show is what it is. I think Andy Reid showed everybody that a good coach can turn a team around in a hurry and if I were the owner id seriously consider getting rid of this guy right now before you lose any players when free agency begins

  18. Figuring out what’s wrong with the team really seems beyond him at this point. He seemed dumbfounded Thursday night, and that’s the reason to fire him.

    Fixing a team is more than just lip service saying you need fewer penalties, more consistency or have to play harder, smarter, cleaner. Most of these things are happening because he and his assistants don’t have any idea where to put the talent they have. They are just not smart enough to compete when it comes to X’s and O’s at a professional level .

    Players that lose confidence in a system lose confidence in themselves and can’t dig deeper when they need to. Penalties, drops and turnovers happen when players feel pressured to make spectacular plays because they know the system never will succeed on its own.

    And it’s offense and defense, so his time really feels like it’s done. He’s out of his league, literally.

  19. .

    Chuck Noll’s record :

    Year 1. 1-11

    Year 2. 5-9

    Chuck Noll has won more Super Bowls than any other coach in NFL history.

    .

    .

  20. ALL Bucs fans should boycott and skip the games they have tickets for untill this idiot is fired. Any dan that actually attends a Bucs home game while this man is headcoach is an idiot. You can brush aside a lot, but the owners will not be able to brush away an empty stadium on Sundays. They apparently don’t care about their fans or the rest of the league if they continue to employ this moron.
    Schiano just shut up, fans don’t wanna hear you talk and try and justify why you suck so bad.

  21. Troy Aikman was 1-15 his first year too but Mike Glennon is no Aikman just like Schiano is no Chuck Noll. And I hate the Steeelers

  22. Grew up in Tampa. Lived through Vinny (and color blindness), Wyche and mediocrity, I lived through our top signing being a guy named Gruber for 3mil. At least that had hope. This feels like a demise. The fans speak not because of the record…they speak because they lost hope.

  23. Schiano’s so far out of touch with reality that, after he gets fired, he really should run for Congress. His constituents at home would hate him but he’d fit right in with the other elected officials.

    Listening to him, can’t you imagine him telling a reporter that he did something really unpopular because he understands what the American people want?

  24. @thelastbesthope

    Are you serious? Have you seen Timmy throw the ball? I throw a better ball left handed. And to your second dumb comment in that post… He could start on all of those teams at the same time? Dummy

  25. That is like saying that you have herpes, and it sucks, but there is nothing you, or anyone, can do to fix it.

    Hilarious.

  26. Not a fan of the Glazers, but don’t envy any owner in this situation. As someone mentioned, Chuck Noll went 1-15 his first season with the Steelers and wound up building a dynasty. On the other hand, if you give a losing coach more time, he might make an even bigger mess. Talent is the key. Noll had little to work with when he came to Pittsburgh in 1969. But the skill level on even the worst team in 2013 should be considerably better than that.

  27. denverhighrize says:
    Grew up in Tampa. Lived through Vinny (and color blindness), Wyche and mediocrity, I lived through our top signing being a guy named Gruber for 3mil. At least that had hope. This feels like a demise. The fans speak not because of the record…they speak because they lost hope.

    ———-

    Paul Gruber was great player for his entire career after he was drafted in the 1st round in 1988 I believe. Anyways Schiano mostly compares to the Perkins years – except Perkins didn’t have nearly the talent Schiano has. That’s the issue here. The fans are ready to run him out of town because they know the Bucs are a talented team and anyone with even a moderate knowledge of football can see how bad the schemes are the team is using. It doesn’t take Sapp to point out how they’re misusing Revis and McCoy.

    To your point, there is plenty of hope for the team. I think everyone excepts a Colts / KC type turn around the second Schiano is ran out of the building, and thats why is really killing the fans. This isn’t a hopeless situation, it really seems like there is one guy killing the team right now. However takes over this team isn’t getting a rebuilding project, they’re getting a top half NFL team from day 1.

  28. Rod Marinelli is who you need. He has learned what not to do to go 0-16. Now you just need to hire him before it’s to late. He can save your team, I know he can. All he has to do is whatever he did in Detroit. As long as he don’t do that you might win a game. Hang in there Bucs fans, as a Lions fan I feel your pain. Don’t give up though it will get better, just going to take three more coaches and a couple new rosters then you will be back to just average. I will let you know how long it takes to be good when we get there LOL

  29. This is a man who was never ready for the stage he’s on. I’m not even convinced he’s THAT bad of a coach. But I am convinced that going from Rutgers to the NFL was just too much for him. Nothing against Rutgers, but the expectations basically are, “if we win great, if we don’t, eh, we’re not a big time program anyway”

    I can’t say I blame him. If you are a football coach, it would be hard not to take one of the 32 best jobs in the world (which every NFL HC job is), but at the same time, you have to know if you aren’t ready for it. He would of been much better served moving to a major program (which he could have, his stock was high enough when he was hired), and learning how to keep the program running the way he wanted, while dealing with increased expectations and scrutiny.

  30. rawdogggg says:
    Oct 25, 2013 8:24 PM
    Say what you want about Schiano though. If he gets fired, there’ll be a crap load of College teams willing to pay him.

    ————

    I’m going to assume you meant a crap load of high school teams.

    Lets go over this again.

    His record at Reuters: 68–67
    His Big East record: 28-48
    Never won the Big East
    In 11 years he had one top 25 finish
    In fact take away his victories against DII teams and he has a losing college record overall.

  31. Unless the Bucs actually think they’ll bring him back next year, there’s no reason to keep him around any longer. It doesn’t matter if he’s only had one full season. Mr. Dominik, don’t make your players and fans suffer any longer. Just fire him already.

  32. Has there ever been a coach who has worn out his welcome not only locally, but also nationally, as quick as Schiano?

  33. This guy just continues to disrespect the fans of the Bucs. Somebody really needs to tell him that many of us have been here long before he was even a blip on the radar and will be here long after he is gone.

  34. This is just a media creation. It’s settling old scores. SChiano was a college coach and college coaches don’t have to talk to the media.

    Most college coaches keep their kids away from the media and NFL scouts. Some are nicer about it than others but the result is the same, very limited access for most.

    Schiano inherited a very undisciplined team with a QB that seems to have had some sort of mental or physical breakdown.

    He may end up failing but you have to give a coach some time.

    You really want to lose the team? Fire the coach just because the players are unhappy. Why would they listen to the next guy either if they know you’ll just fire him if they complain?

  35. spygatedontexist says:
    Oct 25, 2013 10:09 PM
    schiano tryna be like belichick
    but patriots suck without cameras
    #cheaters
    #spygate
    karma is a bitch
    welker made brady bitches

    I’m no Patriot lover and I can stand Tom Brady, but didn’t he win three SB’s before Welker arrived?

  36. TheWizard says:
    Oct 25, 2013 8:07 PM

    “I’ve never liked piling on a coach. He isn’t blocking or tackling. These players need to man up and win a game, because I think they’re buying in to a ready made excuse for them to fail.”

    No, they’re tuning him out and going through the motions…esp. on that one DeAngelo Williams red zone run – they aren’t buying into him, don’t respect him, therefore they wont “man-up” nor go the distance for him – Michael Bennett, Winslow, a lot of players saw it coming. This act might work well with College players – and the relationship with the QB is paramount. An intense guy communicates that, and an aggressive defense buys in.

    – an egomaniac that is assigning blame is simply tolerated.

  37. Schiano is a dead man walking. He’s lost the locker room & the fan base. Just cut bait & fire him. He can take a cash payout & go do analyst work for CFB before being hired by a college team & the Bucs can get back on the rebuilding trail.

  38. First he disses the organizations as a bunch loser even though they’ve won a Super Bowl and now he’s dissing the fans! You might think the fans ‘Can’t fix it’ bc we can! How? By boycotting Raymond James stadium and let’s see how the Glazers like seeing an 75% empty stadium like in the Ray Perkins era!!!

  39. Well, you did refuse to make it work with your starting qb. And then you did cut him. As a fan who has watched a lot of football, if you don’t have a qb, you got nothing. Shieano, you got nothing.

  40. Did someone really invoke Troy Aikman on this post? In 2010, before Schiano, Freeman had 25 TDs and 6 interceptions. In Aikman’s best TD year (1992), he had 23. In his best interception year (1998), he had 5. Aikman was simply a game manager on a mega-loaded team due the fleecing of the Vikings. Find a better example.

    That said, I think some team will bring Freeman in next year, chill him out for a season as a backup and right his ship. He has tons of physical ability that teams simply will not ignore. But, if he still wants to start, he’s screwed.

  41. I keep seeing all these Chuck Noll comparisons concering Schiano’s W-L record. There is no comparison. Schiano isn’t fit to carry Noll’s headset. Schiano isn’t fit to carry Raheem Morris’ headset.

  42. 61 guys in that locker room? Which players don’t count, or is it some of those coaches lurking around the locker room that aren’t worth counting? I mean as long as we are being specific and trying to show that we know how to tabulate numbers in an objective and comprehensive fashion just to make sure that we represent that we actually have things down to a science rather than this big picture being drawn as a groupthink fingerpaint job.

  43. I have no dog in this fight.
    I don’t like or dislike Tampa Bay.

    So, seriously for a moment:
    “Schiano = bad” is the easy part.

    Who (that is avail and would take the job)
    SHOULD the Bucs hire?

  44. Schiano was wildly overrated from the start. Sure, he took Rutgers from “really bad” to “semi-decent” but fact is that his Rutgers teams always underachieved. They always fell flat after big victories and always settled for low-grade bowls after blowing golden opportunities. He certainly did nothing at Rutgers to merit being hired to coach an NFL team, a better college gig would have been the natural step for a guy like him, to see if he was a real builder of programs or a guy who rode a killer recruiting class or two to a big payday. Why TB hired him is a real mystery to me, but why they’re winless definitely isn’t.

  45. Fans can survive without football. Football cannot survive without fans. We control every aspect & he talks like fans are a byproduct.

  46. thelastbesthope says:
    Oct 25, 2013 8:24 PM
    He’s old school. But is that a bad thing?

    thelastbesthope says:
    Oct 25, 2013 8:46 PM
    and if Tebow was a Muslim….he’d be a starting QB in….

    JAX,TAMPA,ST.LOUIS,BUFFALO, HOUSTON and CHICAGO

    ———————-

    I am going to go out on a limb here and assume that you haven’t taken your meds…

    Schiano isn’t old school as much as he is high school…

  47. thelastbesthope says:
    Oct 25, 2013 8:46 PM
    and if Tebow was a Muslim….he’d be a starting QB in….

    JAX,TAMPA,ST.LOUIS,BUFFALO, HOUSTON and CHICAGO
    ———–
    Thad Lewis, the former practice squad QB, is a better option than
    Ol’ Timmy. He stinks in ANY religion and anyone who can’t see that has an I.Q. lower than Timmy’s completion percentage.

  48. So, you say you want to totally destroy a NFL franchise? I have the perfect plan for you. Hire Scott Pioli to be the GM, and Schiano to be the HC, and then sit back and enjoy the ensuing mushroom cloud….

  49. This team is so horrible that the NFL has ended up back dooring almost the whole Tampa Bay area down here into buying the NFL TV Package just to get around having to watch these millionaires.

    Profit for the NFL again $$$$

  50. He does not know how to use the talent he has around him. Revis in zone coverage? When he is man to man, the defense does alot better. Either put him on the number 1 receiver or put him on the number 2 receiver and double the number 1. I am not a head coach, but this is common sense. As soon as he goes to zone, a big pass play happens? On offense,I don’t think they have a pass play that is over 15 yards in their playbook.

  51. This is cruel and unusual punishment. It’s unconstitutional. Worse than water-boarding. Fire him please, I can’t stand to see him suffer. Some of the fans agree and are wearing bags.

  52. vegasgreek says:
    Oct 25, 2013 10:02 PM
    Schiano will be on Belichick’s staff next season doing some sort of coaching. Book it !

    __________________________

    As much as I don’t kike Belichick, he’s way too smart for this.

  53. outlawshark says: Oct 26, 2013 2:06 AM

    Did someone really invoke Troy Aikman on this post? In 2010, before Schiano, Freeman had 25 TDs and 6 interceptions. In Aikman’s best TD year (1992), he had 23. In his best interception year (1998), he had 5. Aikman was simply a game manager on a mega-loaded team due the fleecing of the Vikings. Find a better example.

    That said, I think some team will bring Freeman in next year, chill him out for a season as a backup and right his ship. He has tons of physical ability that teams simply will not ignore. But, if he still wants to start, he’s screwed

    ______________

    Different game, different time. If you put up 20 TDs in a season back then, it was considered a heck of a season. Now if you only put up 20, your job is in serious trouble.

    As a guy who hates the cowboys, and troy girl as much as anyone, he was much more than a game manager

  54. lance19 says:
    Oct 26, 2013 3:00 AM
    I have no dog in this fight.
    I don’t like or dislike Tampa Bay.

    So, seriously for a moment:
    “Schiano = bad” is the easy part.

    Who (that is avail and would take the job)
    SHOULD the Bucs hire?

    ——————————————————-

    There are ALWAYS options. Always. And part of having a good management/ownership group is having an eye for potential. Clearly the Glazers DO NOT possess this eye with the past two hirings of Raheem Morris and Greg Schiano. This situation reminds me eerily of how the the 49ers were when John York was making such decisions. His decisios resulted in the impotent dead-fish hirings of the likes of Erickson and Mike Nolan….not to mention Singletary (but Singletary fell on the kid’s lap not John’s).

    The parent Yorks literally had no clue what was going on in the football world. None. They finally made the right decision to give their son a shot at running the family business and things have worked out well since he hired GM Trent Baalke followed by Harbaugh and down the line.

    The Glazers simply don’t know people and especially football people. I’d even say they probably don’t know football either which would explain why hires like Morris and Schiano continue to just implode the like the death-star.

  55. PATRIOTS ARE
    #CHEATERS
    #SPYGATE
    18-1 CHOKERS
    0-2 IN SUPERBOWLS SINCE SPYGATE
    WELKER MADE BRADY A STAR NOW HE IS BELOW AVERAGE AND INCONSISTENT
    AARON RODGERS IS WORKING WITH A NEW CAST OF RECEIVERS RICHT NOW WITH JONES AND COBB OUT BUT STIL PLAYING CONSISTENT

  56. spygatedontexist says:
    Oct 26, 2013 11:16 AM
    PATRIOTS ARE
    #CHEATERS
    #SPYGATE
    18-1 CHOKERS
    0-2 IN SUPERBOWLS SINCE SPYGATE

    —————————————————-

    I’m a 49ers fan but have to laugh when people try to somehow marginalize just how good of a coach Bill Bellichick is by saying that going 18-1 was a “choke” or because they’ve lost 2 SBs since spygate that somehow is an inditement on “how bad” the Pats are. Dude, get some perspective.

    JUST GETTING TO a Super Bowl takes an incredible amount of effort and prowess. Just ask the teams that haven’t been to one. And not-winning the Super Bowl doesn’t take away the fact that a team had to win their respective CONFERENCE and be the best team in the Conf to be there. ANd it’s not like the Pats got whooped in those games. For the most part “miracle” passes and catches were made.

    I hope you don’t vote because your perspective sucks and that doesn’t change putting everything in caps! And I’m a 49ers fan!

  57. serkeljerks says:Oct 26, 2013 11:00 AM

    lance19 says:
    Oct 26, 2013 3:00 AM
    I have no dog in this fight.
    I don’t like or dislike Tampa Bay.

    So, seriously for a moment:
    “Schiano = bad” is the easy part.

    Who (that is avail and would take the job)
    SHOULD the Bucs hire?

    ——————————————————-

    There are ALWAYS options. Always. And part of having a good management/ownership group is having an eye for potential. Clearly the Glazers DO NOT possess this eye with the past two hirings of Raheem Morris and Greg Schiano. This situation reminds me eerily of how the the 49ers were when John York was making such decisions. His decisios resulted in the impotent dead-fish hirings of the likes of Erickson and Mike Nolan….not to mention Singletary (but Singletary fell on the kid’s lap not John’s).

    The parent Yorks literally had no clue what was going on in the football world. None. They finally made the right decision to give their son a shot at running the family business and things have worked out well since he hired GM Trent Baalke followed by Harbaugh and down the line.

    The Glazers simply don’t know people and especially football people. I’d even say they probably don’t know football either which would explain why hires like Morris and Schiano continue to just implode the like the death-star.
    ——————————————————–
    Nice. The guy asks who’s out there as far as coaches go, and your answer is an essay on the York family and how frisco turned it around. Typical niner fan delusion. No one cares about the York family or Trent “bust pick” Baalke.

  58. ——————————————————–
    Nice. The guy asks who’s out there as far as coaches go, and your answer is an essay on the York family and how frisco turned it around. Typical niner fan delusion. No one cares about the York family or Trent “bust pick” Baalke.

    ——————————-

    Nice. Clearly you missed the point. The point wasn’t just about coaches but about management. Speak for yourself about no one caring. The point wasn’t ABOUT the York family but about ownership. But I’m sure this was just too deep for you to chew on and parse out.

  59. Do I try to handle men who make twice what I do like college kids? I sure do. Am I too stubborn to even consider modifying my style for the pro game? Damn right. Was it a huge mistake to hire me? Definitely. Will I wind up getting a top end college job for no reason even though my Rutgers teams played in a vastly overrated Big East? You bet.

  60. It’s amazing the world can’t see what’s going on thinking Schiano is a bad coach.

    What’s going on is a bunch of veterans stuck in their underachieving ways, resisting change, and probably corrupting Schiano’s draft picks.

    Schiano and Jimmy Johnson pretty much the same dynamic. Only difference is Jimmy Johnson had the unwavering confidence of his owner who said hiring Jimmy Johnson was the equivalent of drafting 5 Heisman trophy winners(back when Heisman winners were legit). Jimmy was able to cut all of the old vets and bring in fresh rookies who all they knew was a college environment.

    -RaiderLyfe
    The Autumn Wind is a Raider ..pillaging just for fun.

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