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Seahawks-Rams will be televised locally, even if no one locally will be watching

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On Monday night, Kellen Clemens makes his debut at the Rams’ starting quarterback.  But most folks in St. Louis will be paying attention to the sport once played by Roger Clemens.

By winning at Fenway Park on Thursday night, the Cardinals have guaranteed that Game Five of the World Series will be played.  On Monday night.  In St. Louis.  Where the Rams will be hosting the Seahawks.

The Rams tell PFT that the football game will be televised locally.  Which means that enough tickets have been sold to lift the blackout.

The Rams declined to disclose whether they have taken advantage of the rule that allows the minimum percentage of non-premium ticket sales to be reduced from 100 to 85.  Regardless of whether the number has been dropped, chances are that owner Stan Kroenke has written a check for any unsold tickets, at 34 cents on the dollar.

Apart from the unsold seats, the real question is how many will be unused — especially if the Cardinals beat Boston on Saturday and Sunday, setting up Monday night as a potential World Series championship game.

The best the Rams and the NFL can hope for at this point is rain.  But there’s none in the forecast until Tuesday.

While the national ratings could nevertheless skew toward a crappy regular-season NFL game over a World Series game, the situation creates a strong potential for a local embarrassment, with few people attending the game and few in the St. Louis metropolitan area watching it.

In the future, the NFL should consider avoiding prime-time games in baseball towns during the World Series.  Buffalo, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Green Bay, Carolina, and New Orleans should become the Thursday night/Sunday night/Monday night rotation in late October.

That could be easier said than done, given the already Herculean task of scheduling 256 regular-season games.  Still, it makes sense to at least try to avoid what will happen in St. Louis to cap Week Eight of the 2013 season, which could feature fans ditching a close game in the fourth quarter to join in the celebration of a World Series title.

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52 Responses to “Seahawks-Rams will be televised locally, even if no one locally will be watching”
  1. geniusry says: Oct 25, 2013 11:15 AM

    I understand the logic here Mike but I cannot wait to see how this all plays out. It will be a true test as to just how popular NFL football really is compared to Baseball. I am fairly certain that history shows us that middle of the regular season NFL games easily beat World Series games in the ratings. If more people watch and attend this game, it will be a huge sign for just how much more popular the NFL really is.

  2. Foghorn The IKonoclast says: Oct 25, 2013 11:16 AM

    I actually see that as the game of the week.

  3. whodey08 says: Oct 25, 2013 11:17 AM

    Still better than watching baseball.

  4. don2074978 says: Oct 25, 2013 11:17 AM

    I think a lot of local military like Scott AFB Whiteman AFB, FT Leonard Wood might have something fun to do on Monday Night

  5. blowpackblow says: Oct 25, 2013 11:22 AM

    I would watch but there is a infomercial on the MALL network about “The World’s Best Blender”

  6. wwwmattcom says: Oct 25, 2013 11:23 AM

    Since you brought up scheduling and how monumental it is. Can we bring up how the Bills play 7 games vs. Teams with extra rest (bye week or coming off a Thursday game). The patriots play zero teams with extra rest.

    Monumental, maybe. Fair. Heck no. Like the NFL cares about the rams.

    Pfff

  7. benihanagt says: Oct 25, 2013 11:25 AM

    You could probably add Seattle to the list of cities that could host with no conflicts, considering our past success rate. Made the playoffs 4 times in 37 years and zero world series appearances.

  8. vmannj says: Oct 25, 2013 11:26 AM

    Let’s end this debate once and for all. Baseball is America’s favorite past time…emphasis on PAST. For almost 100 years (1880-1980) baseball was still America’s favorite sport. But football has long since passed baseball as America’s favorite weekend activity. Still confused?

  9. stonefish67 says: Oct 25, 2013 11:27 AM

    Do you blame the fans.
    Living near Tampa, we have the Lightning as our NHL team.
    Go Lightning and nuts to Schiano, and the Glazers

  10. pongonfl says: Oct 25, 2013 11:35 AM

    Seattle has become a very big draw, quite a compelling team that plays hard. I bet the ratings do ok.

  11. conormacleod says: Oct 25, 2013 11:35 AM

    This really isn’t a problem. NFL tickets were sold. The game will be played. The owners will make their $9 billion a year. What, exactly, is the problem?

  12. liddogg33 says: Oct 25, 2013 11:36 AM

    The football game will be over by the end of the first quarter!! Good news for rams fans is that should be just about time the cards take the field !! Russell will be in SWEATS at half time!!!! Seattle 42 Rams 10!

    GO HAWKS!!!

  13. sickoe47 says: Oct 25, 2013 11:37 AM

    LA will be monitoring the situation closely in st louis.

  14. chefbob52355 says: Oct 25, 2013 11:44 AM

    If the world series was at game 7, then maybe it out ranks the football game.

    Baseball needs some changes and fast! How about playing some games in London? NOT!!!

  15. iced107 says: Oct 25, 2013 11:50 AM

    stonefish67 says:
    Oct 25, 2013 11:27 AM
    Do you blame the fans.
    Living near Tampa, we have the Lightning as our NHL team.
    Go Lightning and nuts to Schiano, and the Glazers

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    LOL.. I live in Tampa area (Rams fan), I called into the Bucs Station (bored,driving to schoool). Had to come up with a sign if you were to go to a Bucs Game… I did:

    Begging
    U
    Cut
    Schiano

    To my surprise, I found out I won 30 minutes later…. I won LIGHTNING tickets… They can’t even give away Bucs tickets.. By the way, even the lightning game was bad (more Chicago Black hawks fans there than lightning), but atleast that game was crazy and the Tampa Won.

  16. Vim says: Oct 25, 2013 11:53 AM

    It does not matter whether it is Kellen Clemens or Sam Bradford starting for the Rams. This game has blowout written all over it.

    The big draw for the NFL crowd here is really Seattle. They could have been playing the poor sisters of Columbus, Ohio and they would still draw more viewers than even a Game 7 of the World Series.

  17. onehitiquit says: Oct 25, 2013 12:04 PM

    You can add Seattle to the list. The Mariners are teeerrrrrible.

  18. assuredmutualdestruction says: Oct 25, 2013 12:05 PM

    liddogg33 says:Oct 25, 2013 11:36 AM

    The football game will be over by the end of the first quarter!! Good news for rams fans is that should be just about time the cards take the field !! Russell will be in SWEATS at half time!!!! Seattle 42 Rams 10!

    GO HAWKS!!!
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    I see it more like Sea 45 Stl 6. Rams do not get into the endzone in this game.

  19. imeanwhatisay says: Oct 25, 2013 12:05 PM

    if they hire chad Johnson or T.O people would watch but the rams call brent farve.Like I said befor the NFL is bias on certain ppl.Farve has had more off the field stuff than chad but he can get a call .something’s not right with that

  20. joetoronto says: Oct 25, 2013 12:05 PM

    pongonfl says:
    Oct 25, 2013 11:35 AM
    Seattle has become a very big draw, quite a compelling team that plays hard. I bet the ratings do ok.
    ***********************************************
    The only people that care about the team in Alaska are the people in Alaska.

  21. trollhammer20 says: Oct 25, 2013 12:06 PM

    One ‘Hawk fan on reddit commented that he was able to get tickets and a flight to STL for less than what it would cost him to score tickets to the upcoming Monday Night home game versus the Saints.

    If the games were in Seattle (as if…Mariners, ha) there could have been some real problems, as the stadiums are right next to each other, and parking/transportation would have a nightmare.

  22. thestrategyexpert says: Oct 25, 2013 12:15 PM

    This issue is way too complicated for the NFL to deal with. Coming up with a good scheduling plan and working out all the little details en route to televising the games has never been their strong point.

  23. britishteeth says: Oct 25, 2013 12:18 PM

    geniusry says:
    Oct 25, 2013 11:15 AM
    I understand the logic here Mike but I cannot wait to see how this all plays out. It will be a true test as to just how popular NFL football really is compared to Baseball.

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    Actually, this isn’t a “true test”. Very small sample size in one city. St.Louis is much more of a baseball city, always has been. What can I say, St.Louis citizens have their priorities way out of whack.

  24. schmitty2 says: Oct 25, 2013 12:21 PM

    For all of you predicting blowout you need to pump the brakes. Anything can happen on any given day. Think back to 2 weeks ago when the Broncos were supposed to beat the Jags by 28. I’m not saying the Rams will win this game but it might….just might be closer than you think.

  25. jimmyt says: Oct 25, 2013 12:22 PM

    There will be plenty of football fans at the Rams/Hawks game. Only a few games into only Fisher’s second year rebuilding project of the worst team in the NFL, the starting QB goes down and people are seeing moving vans pulling up to Rams Park. Laughable. QB’s go down sometimes. Fans have seen the improvements in Fisher’s short reign and the fans look forward to many great years ahead. There are plenty enough sports fans in St. Louis to go around and what football fan wouldn’t want to see Russell Wilson play?

  26. dodohead418 says: Oct 25, 2013 12:23 PM

    With all the rule changes, I am unsure if the NFL will remain one of the world’s most popular sport!

  27. strongmackn says: Oct 25, 2013 12:33 PM

    They ShOULD do it in seattle! They could put them on the same station at once cuz the stadiums are right next to eachother.

    You could watch a Hawk game at the CLink, then see safeco field in the background. You wouldnt be able to see the world series actually happening… but who cares.

  28. assuredmutualdestruction says: Oct 25, 2013 12:36 PM

    schmitty2 says:Oct 25, 2013 12:21 PM

    For all of you predicting blowout you need to pump the brakes. Anything can happen on any given day. Think back to 2 weeks ago when the Broncos were supposed to beat the Jags by 28. I’m not saying the Rams will win this game but it might….just might be closer than you think.
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    Nahhhh…I’m adding a td just for that comment.
    Seattle now wins 52-6.

  29. awdlmd says: Oct 25, 2013 12:37 PM

    It’s 2013, nobody cares about baseball anymore.

  30. granadafan says: Oct 25, 2013 12:53 PM

    “dodohead418 says:
    Oct 25, 2013 12:23 PM
    With all the rule changes, I am unsure if the NFL will remain one of the world’s most popular sport!”
    ==============================================

    If American football is so popular around the world, then how come no other country plays the sport as its #1 sport? Canada plays football, but hockey is clear #1 for them.

    Footall/soccer/futbol is by far the #1 sport in the world. #2 is tennis.

  31. ampats says: Oct 25, 2013 12:59 PM

    Saying there are plenty of football fans in St.Louis that will show up is laughable. I will be surprised if there are more than 30,000 people show up to see the last season of the Rams in St. Louis.

    But nationally, the MNF game will outscore the World Series by a large margin.

  32. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 25, 2013 1:22 PM

    Seabags 41
    Rams 3
    FINAL.

  33. mianfr says: Oct 25, 2013 1:22 PM

    Didn’t Clemens start one other game for the Rams?

  34. 12is3times4 says: Oct 25, 2013 1:22 PM

    I would have suggested taking Green Bay out of your late-October rotation, as Milwaukee is the Packers’ de facto primary market. But the Brewers won’t be playing late Octobers for at least another decade; Lyin’ Fraud and his toxic long-term contract have seen to that.

  35. trollhammer20 says: Oct 25, 2013 1:41 PM

    I don’t think it’s going to be fortysomething to single-digit, but….

    The Rams do not run the ball well, and Seattle stops the run. This means the Rams backup QB will be throwing into the Seattle secondary. A lot.

    This is not a favorable matchup for STL.

    Maybe they can pull it out on defense, but, if so, their defense will need to score points themselves.

  36. dezno24 says: Oct 25, 2013 1:44 PM

    NFL still should have let Baltimore host its first game. You see how their season is going! lol Like some have said, the owners/NFL will still make their money, so what’s the issue?

  37. realitypolice says: Oct 25, 2013 1:46 PM

    jimmyt says:
    Oct 25, 2013 12:22 PM
    There will be plenty of football fans at the Rams/Hawks game. Only a few games into only Fisher’s second year rebuilding project of the worst team in the NFL, the starting QB goes down and people are seeing moving vans pulling up to Rams Park. Laughable. QB’s go down sometimes. Fans have seen the improvements in Fisher’s short reign and the fans look forward to many great years ahead. There are plenty enough sports fans in St. Louis to go around and what football fan wouldn’t want to see Russell Wilson play?
    =====

    Do you live in St. Louis? Because if you think fans are going to ignore a possible clinching World Series game featuring the team that is far and away the most popular in the city to watch a regular season Rams game featuring Russell Wilson, I have a hard time believing you’ve spent much time there.

    There are certainly “plenty of sports fans to go around” in St. Louis and every one of them will be watching or listening to the Cardinals on Monday night, even the ones sitting the Jones Dome.

    This has nothing to with what fans think of the Rams or Jeff Fisher. The Rams and the NFL are popular in St. Louis. But the Cardinals are the #1 franchise in town, always have been and they are playing a World Series game right down the street. Please be realistic.

  38. lokm88 says: Oct 25, 2013 1:47 PM

    Go Rams baby!!!! I’ll be ad the ED for MNF!!!

  39. cowboylover says: Oct 25, 2013 1:56 PM

    “if they hire chad Johnson or T.O people would watch but the rams call brent farve.Like I said befor the NFL is bias on certain ppl.Farve has had more off the field stuff than chad but he can get a call .something’s not right with that”

    ***************************************
    Thank you, Chad

  40. napavalleyshaun says: Oct 25, 2013 1:56 PM

    You’ll have more people than you think watching this contest. If only for the potential trainwreck scenario alone.

  41. gayvenator says: Oct 25, 2013 2:04 PM

    I’d rather watch pee wee football then any type of baseball.

  42. jlinatl says: Oct 25, 2013 2:27 PM

    I think it’s a good idea to take the baseball towns into consideration as much as possible.

    However, as an unintended consequence of baseball lengthening their season/postseason, they have put themselves into the position of defending ratings of lackluster NFL games vs. the Playoffs/World Series.

    As much as many people on this and the sister baseball sites will take a hardline either or stance, I think most people will actually be flipping back and forth between the 2 games. How the games unfold will likely have a big impact on how the ratings skew as the night wears on.

  43. immafubared says: Oct 25, 2013 2:30 PM

    Great idea, having games on Monday night in cities without baseball teams in Oct to avoid conflict.
    Ya and they should make NASCAR run on Friday nights against high school football and avoid clashing with the NFL and College Football.

  44. clssylssy says: Oct 25, 2013 2:52 PM

    Some towns still love their baseball and St.Louis is one of them along with New York. When it’s a choice between the World Series and watching a NFL game that’s most likely going to be dismall, it will be an easy choice! Since Seattle and St.Louis play twice in the season anyway, scheduling this as a St.Louis home game rather than visa versa was poor planning on the part of the NFL since St.Louis always is a contender for the World Series. For many older Americans baseball is still synonymous with patriotism, the American Way of life and regarded as “a thinking man’s game” whereas today’s football is like heavy mental music…catchy but???

  45. bugorfeature says: Oct 25, 2013 3:02 PM

    Seems like a real mismatch. Maybe not quite as much as last week’s MNF game but Seattle is clearly a top 5 NFL team and the Rams likely a bottom 10.

  46. tokyosandblaster says: Oct 25, 2013 3:33 PM

    Who wants to watch a game with two teams who aren’t going to do much this year?

    Not I.

  47. iced107 says: Oct 25, 2013 4:02 PM

    trollhammer20 says:
    Oct 25, 2013 1:41 PM
    I don’t think it’s going to be fortysomething to single-digit, but….

    The Rams do not run the ball well, and Seattle stops the run. This means the Rams backup QB will be throwing into the Seattle secondary. A lot.

    This is not a favorable matchup for STL.

    Maybe they can pull it out on defense, but, if so, their defense will need to score points themselves.

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    someone hasn’t watched the rams the last 3 weeks with zac stacy in the back field…. unlike Daryl Richardson or most of the other backs, he actually breaks tackles.

    Plus they stopped asking Jared cook to block ( THANK GOD! ) – Kendricks and Harkey have revved up that run game since Stacy started in the back field…

  48. sethandfalon says: Oct 25, 2013 4:54 PM

    I have money on it that the local fans will be much more into the World Series. The dome will probably have a lot of Seahawks fans and if the game goes their way early it will be LOUD for Seattle! The TV audience always favors the NFL, every night of every week, even when the World Series is on. Outside of Boston and St. Louis, TVs will be tuned to the NFL 2 to 1.

  49. scoobaj says: Oct 25, 2013 10:56 PM

    joetoronto says: Oct 25, 2013 12:05 PM

    pongonfl says:
    Oct 25, 2013 11:35 AM
    Seattle has become a very big draw, quite a compelling team that plays hard. I bet the ratings do ok.
    ***********************************************
    The only people that care about the team in Alaska are the people in Alaska.

    *************************************

    that’s an interesting take joe, is that why you post your ill informed drivel on EVERY seahawk post on PFT? because you don’t care… freakin trolls man

  50. pieromania says: Oct 25, 2013 11:55 PM

    sethandfalon says: Oct 25, 2013 4:54 PM

    I have money on it that the local fans will be much more into the World Series. The dome will probably have a lot of Seahawks fans and if the game goes their way early it will be LOUD for Seattle! The TV audience always favors the NFL, every night of every week, even when the World Series is on. Outside of Boston and St. Louis, TVs will be tuned to the NFL 2 to 1.
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    Agreed. This will be back to back weeks where the Hawks play a home game outside of Seattle essentially. The fans were out in force down in Arizona and with tickets being so incredibly cheap for this game, I know a few of my friends are flying out there for the game. Hell, they have tickets being sold for LESS than a beer at these games (says a lot about the ticket price AND the beer pricing).
    Anyway, a lot of things need to go the right way for the Rams to pull off a victory. Their front 7 is talented and the Hawks’ O-Line has been garbage in regard to the pass protection. They need to capitalize on that and contain Wilson (easier said than done). Their defense is going to have to score points. On offense, they need to utilize Jared Cook’s speed down the seam and move Austin around and get him lined up with Browner as much as possible. If the Hawks are dumb enough to leave Browner on another speedy receiver with no help over the top again, I’m going to flip out. If they put Thurmond on him, he won’t have as big of an impact.
    Sherman on their best receiver, Thurmond on their #2 (unless Austin comes in to play the slot, in which case Browner takes the #2) and either Browner or Malcolm Smith covering Jared Cook….maybe even Byron Maxwell.
    With all that said, I still don’t see this game being very close and the traveling Hawks fans giving the Rams Offense trouble hearing :-) If Seattle dials up the pressure and implements the NASCAR package a bit with Clemons/Avril/Bennett/Irvin, the secondary is going to get their turnovers and it might come in bulk this game.

    Prediction: The Rams will keep this game close in the beginning with a low scoring 1st Half as the Seahawks are known for starting slow and it’s a divisional game. Seattle will end up distancing themselves by the 4th Quarter and the Rams will score their only TD late in garbage time. Seahawks win 31-13.

  51. thebirdofprey2 says: Oct 26, 2013 11:09 AM

    As a huge Hawk fans I hope for a great display of defense and offense for Seattle. I really believe if Sam Bradford played it would have been competitive from start to finish because the Rams play NFC West pretty hard because they are built that way.

    Robert Quinn and Chris Long vs our backup tackles will be the reason this game is closer than people think. But if Seattle starts running the ball which is a St. Louis weakness this year watch out. In the end I think Hawks win by 17 points. Back up QB on prime time football is not an ideal situation.

  52. roknsoul says: Oct 26, 2013 6:08 PM

    Bring back the Los Angeles Rams!!!

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