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Allen dances around trade talk

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On Sunday, Jay Glazer of FOX Sports reported that the Vikings would listen to trade offers for defensive end Jared Allen.

On Sunday night, Allen tried to avoid questions on the topic.
“Honestly, I’m not even going to address it,” Allen said after the 44-31 loss to the Packers, via Tim Yotter of VikingUpdate.com.  “I’m not going to speculate on something that I haven’t had a conversation about and I’m not going to speculate on something that hasn’t happened.  I cross all bridges when I get to them and right now I’m trying figure out a way to make this defense better.”

While Allen didn’t say he wants to be traded, he also didn’t say he doesn’t.

“You know what?  It’s not even something I’ve got to worry about right now,” Allen said.  “I got no control over that stuff.  It is what it is.  I understand the league.  I understand how it works.  I’m not an idiot.  But my goal is to play football.  My goal is to go out and play and win.  I go out every Sunday and I just give it everything I’ve got.  Sometimes it’s spectacular, sometimes you get double-teamed and sometimes you just can’t get there on time.  And then sometimes you lose.  But losing in this kind of fashion, I don’t know how to explain it.”

In the final year of the contract signed when the Vikings traded for him in 2008, Allen remains owed $7.5 million over the next nine weeks.  With the Vikings circling the drain at 1-6, a trade could give them draft-pick compensation that would help them improve in 2014.  Allen, destined to be gone via free agency, would do nothing to make the team better next year.

While the remaining base salary could make it hard for a team to fit him under the cap, the money could be converted to part of a signing bonus for a new contract with a new team, reducing the cap hit for the balance of the current season.

With the Broncos still trying to pump up their defense after the loss of Elvis Dumervil in the offseason, it would make sense to offer Allen whatever they were willing to pay Dumervil — and to offer the Vikings a second-round pick that, if this trade goes down, quite possibly would be one pick before the start of round three.

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  1. 4sacroc says: Oct 28, 2013 8:28 AM

    “Embrace the suck.”

  2. GenXJay says: Oct 28, 2013 8:28 AM

    embrace the suck.

  3. Rick Spielman is a Mountebank says: Oct 28, 2013 8:34 AM

    They have no choice but to trade Allen and Peterson. This team is going nowhere anytime soon. It’s time to rebuild and hope to be able to field a competitive team when the new stadium opens in 2015. The Packers didn’t even punt one time yesterday. Are you kidding me? Keep Allen? Keep Peterson? What’s the point? Let them go play where they might have a chance to actually win something.

  4. TBaySlim says: Oct 28, 2013 8:39 AM

    I’d only trade Allen if it was a 2nd round pick or better, the vikes get a compensitory 3rd round pick for him if he leave the vikes after the season. Also for the money they are paying him this year, he really hasnt done alot, let E. Griffin play more and save the money moving forward

  5. fwippel says: Oct 28, 2013 8:41 AM

    As much as I hate to say this (as a Viking fan), the Vikings would be better off trading him. The season is lost; Jaren Allen is on the wrong side of 30, and he’s not going to the playoffs in his final year as a Viking. The Vikings are likely to have an entirely new coaching staff and front office next season, which means more “rebuilding”.

    At this point, if the Broncos offered a second round pick, the Vikings would be wise to take it. The only other alternative is to let him walk way after the season and get nothing in return. The Vikings needs draft picks (as well as a new front office making the selections). Make the trade.

  6. filthymcnasty1 says: Oct 28, 2013 8:45 AM

    Allen said. “I’m not an idiot.”

    ****************************************

    Don’t sell yourself short, Jared. You’re a tremendous idiot.

  7. skolvikesskol says: Oct 28, 2013 9:00 AM

    2 1sts. Maybe 1st/2nd. Or a first and a couple players.

  8. packerbackernj says: Oct 28, 2013 9:09 AM

    Lucky to get a third for him.

  9. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Oct 28, 2013 9:10 AM

    Seriously? Nobody would offer a second-round pick for Allen. If Rick Spielman could get a second-round pick for Jared Allen, he really is a magician. And I’m having my doubts about that right now.

  10. jimmysee says: Oct 28, 2013 9:11 AM

    No one is going to give you a second round pick for rent-a-player Allen.

    And no one, except maybe the Redskins who don’t know any better, are going to want to give Allen a long term deal for more buck$$ after this season.

    After this season, he’ll find a home and play a few more years for vet’s minimum.

    That’s just the way it goes in the NFL.

    Over in Chicago, Julius Peppers is in the same boat.

  11. coachkilla6 says: Oct 28, 2013 9:12 AM

    1st round pick(s) for Jared Allen??? You can’t trade this guy for what he used to be. He’s older and on the decline. A third or fourth round pick is the best they’ll get for him and they ought to jump on that and make it happen.

  12. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Oct 28, 2013 9:13 AM

    TBaySlim says:Oct 28, 2013 8:39 AM

    I’d only trade Allen if it was a 2nd round pick or better, the vikes get a compensitory 3rd round pick for him if he leave the vikes after the season. Also for the money they are paying him this year, he really hasnt done alot, let E. Griffin play more and save the money moving forward
    _____

    There is no guarantee of a 3rd-round pick if Allen leaves via free agency. The compensatory pick formula depends on what free agents you lost and what free agents you brought in. Considering the Vikings’ defense has made the other team’s punter irrelevant, I think they might want to explore bringing in some big-time free agents. I like building through the draft, but who are you going to draft that’s going to make any difference on this defense?

  13. conormacleod says: Oct 28, 2013 9:14 AM

    How about a 2nd and any cornerback?

  14. sprtsfan1 says: Oct 28, 2013 9:14 AM

    The Bears could sure use his help on their D-line. Get this man in Chicago ASAP!!! Just not sure the Bears have the cap room. But a signing like this would surely go a long way to getting the Bears back to the Monsters of the Midway rather than being a shell of what their defense used to be.

  15. harrisonhits2 says: Oct 28, 2013 9:14 AM

    Go get him Pats!

  16. conormacleod says: Oct 28, 2013 9:15 AM

    Can we trade Leslie Frasier? Someone check him for a pulse first.

  17. suns11111 says: Oct 28, 2013 9:16 AM

    Peterson is going nowhere, face of the new stadium. Jared………. would take a 2nd or 3rd rounder, hope he gets a sniff of the playoffs again. Oh Bronco’s / Pats????

  18. ickky says: Oct 28, 2013 9:18 AM

    Wont be much difference between the Vikes third, and the Broncos second.
    Broncos would have to sweeten the pot to get Allen

  19. cpo187 says: Oct 28, 2013 9:19 AM

    Straight up for Larry Fitzgerald. This would instantly make the Offense a force for next year (after they draft a good QB with their top 5 pick. AP would go crazy if teams had to deal with Fitz and Jennings (once again, as long as they get a QB who can throw). Right now teams are playing 8 or 9 guys in the box daring the Vikings to beat them through the air.

  20. felcus says: Oct 28, 2013 9:21 AM

    Not trading Allen will give the Vikes a end-of-3rd-round compensatory pick after he leaves in free agency, so anything short of a 2nd round pick in a trade for him is pointless.

    Anyone saying “trade Peterson” is a short-sighted idiot that knows nothing about football. It’s a business, and that would simply be bad for business. Sure, the idea of sending him somewhere to win a championship sounds like the MN nice-guy thing to do, but get real. He’s the only bright spot on the team. Besides, no team close to winning a championship is going to pay his contract, whether by choice or by lack of cap space.

  21. brintfatre says: Oct 28, 2013 9:30 AM

    Vikings should trade Peterson to the Cowboys for Romo…. instant improvement for both teams.

  22. fground says: Oct 28, 2013 9:35 AM

    if Spielman is in charge the Vikings will be one of the league’s weakest teams. Any GM who has has years to come up with a decent QB and has this list to show for it:

    AJ Feeley
    Sage Rosenfels
    Christian Ponder
    Matt Cassel
    Josh Freeman

    has zero chance of building a good team.

    What has also become abundantly clear is that he can’t evaluate defensive players either. He has spent a bunch of high picks on defensive players and none of them are any good (well maybe the safety Smith is OK).

    Three years in control and he now has one of the worst teams in the league. Last years playoff qualification was built on the backs of players others had a large hand in bringing in (Peterson, Harvin, Greenway, Williams, Winfield). Now those guys are older or gone and the team Spielman has built around them is awful.

  23. dietrich43 says: Oct 28, 2013 9:40 AM

    They might get a 3rd compensatory pick, in 2015. They won’t get it in next year’s draft. So, getting a third this year, which would have to be a higher pick since the comppcks are all at the end of round, would be better than just letting him walk.

  24. packerbackernj says: Oct 28, 2013 9:42 AM

    cpo187 says:
    Straight up for Larry Fitzgerald. This would instantly make the Offense a force for next year (after they draft a good QB with their top 5 pick. AP would go crazy if teams had to deal with Fitz and Jennings (once again, as long as they get a QB who can throw). Right now teams are playing 8 or 9 guys in the box daring the Vikings to beat them through the air.

    Why don’t you just throw in a unicorn in a deal that would -never- happen … -ever-.

  25. realitypolice says: Oct 28, 2013 9:44 AM

    cpo187 says:
    Oct 28, 2013 9:19 AM
    Straight up for Larry Fitzgerald. This would instantly make the Offense a force for next year (after they draft a good QB with their top 5 pick. AP would go crazy if teams had to deal with Fitz and Jennings (once again, as long as they get a QB who can throw). Right now teams are playing 8 or 9 guys in the box daring the Vikings to beat them through the air.
    =====

    Or why not to the Colts for Andrew Luck? Or Denver for Peyton Manning? Or if your heart is set on a reciever, how about to Detroit for Megatron?

    Because that’s what over 30 defensive ends with huge cap numbers who are about to become free agents are typically traded for.

    SMH. The Cardinals wouldn’t trade Larry Fitzgerald to the Vikings for their entire defense, let alone “straight up” for Jared Allen.

  26. ejmat2 says: Oct 28, 2013 9:48 AM

    For the people stating they would only trade Allen or AP if they were to get this pick or that pick, just stop! The fact is the Vikings are in a bad position. I would rather get something than nothing. If someone wants Allen, get decent value but you can’t demand a 1 or a 2. You take the best offer at this point. For AP it’s different because he’s under contract past this year.

    I agree with those who believe they should trade one, if not both Allen or AP. This team is in a bad way right now and it is the worst I’ve ever seen. The defense absolutely stinks. The offense isn’t much better. The OLine has stunk for years even when Favre was there. The need to build through the draft. They have a good start with last year’s draft class and a couple from the year prior. Take that and build on it. It sucks but it is what it is.

    Last year was simply a fluke. If it weren’t for AP, the team was 3-13 or 4-12 at best. He took the team on his back. This year he isn’t and you see what’s happening.

  27. thesconnienation says: Oct 28, 2013 9:48 AM

    skolvikesskol says:
    Oct 28, 2013 9:00 AM
    2 1sts. Maybe 1st/2nd. Or a first and a couple players.

    cpo187 says:
    Oct 28, 2013 9:19 AM
    Straight up for Larry Fitzgerald.

    ___________________________________

    Vikings’ fans have straight lost it. Holy over-inflated sense of worth.

  28. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Oct 28, 2013 9:52 AM

    On the plus side, you can now get a jump start on analyzing which QB your GM will take in the draft. You know, the same GM who thought Cassell, Ponder, and Freeman were all viable options at QB. Enjoy next season, too!

  29. nflpoker says: Oct 28, 2013 9:53 AM

    Actually, they should trade AD as well.

    1) He could possibly get on a team that has championship potential. No repeat of what happened to Barry Sanders.

    2) At this point in his career and his level of play the Vikings would get more in return, rather than wait to the point when he is in decline and the Vikings won’t get as much.

    3) This is a business, not an exercise in sentimentality for a player.

    4) Vikings should go young and build through the draft and not through FA and trades. Youth. The Vikings are going nowhere now. It will take a while.

  30. floratiotime says: Oct 28, 2013 9:54 AM

    One of the most ungrateful players ever to pull on a uniform.

  31. voiceofrealism says: Oct 28, 2013 10:04 AM

    C’mon now Jared, don’t sell yourself short. You’re a tremendous idiot.

  32. ialwayswantedtobeabanker says: Oct 28, 2013 10:09 AM

    I absolutely agree with the PFT take that Denver would be an ideal fit. It sure as heck would.

    No Denver homer either — that’s just a move that would make a lot of sense though.

  33. xlvbonanzai says: Oct 28, 2013 10:13 AM

    He’s 31 and the team has to assume his contract and extend. Anyone that thinks they will get anything more than a 4th is high.

  34. nflpoker says: Oct 28, 2013 10:13 AM

    Denver would be a good and best match for Allen and the Broncos. Denver is rated 30th in pass defense. Allen would improve that. Besides, getting on a really good team like the Broncos would be great for him.

    Let us not forget back in 1998, the Vikings set the record for most points scored for a season up to that point. The problem was, was that their defense was rated in the the high 20′s or 30′s. All they needed was just an average defense and they would have gone to the SB. The only reason they got to the NFC championship game was because of their offense.

  35. abcdjcrews says: Oct 28, 2013 10:14 AM

    Remember when Seattle took a tremendous amount of heat for not hiring Frasier? Crickets… I hear nothing but crickets… Embrace your collective suck, no pass rush, no pass defense, no wins… The only sucking sound is the vacuum of players trying to leave Minnesota. Peterson is next…

  36. bringbackthetriangleofauthority says: Oct 28, 2013 10:19 AM

    We can easily get a first and two second rounders for him. – Fran Foley, Brad Childress, and Zygi Wilf

  37. immafubared says: Oct 28, 2013 10:23 AM

    Spielman is a genius at drafting and the Vikes every year out draft everyone else and have deals and draft picks in the first and second rounds. The reason, is they get rid of good players while the getting is good and cash in on draft picks.

    Allen will be the exception. They should have traded him last year. This year he is showing his age and is not the dominant player he once was. His star is tarnished. They may be lucky to get a 3rd round pick but not a two. Not after last nights play.

    I would guess they already decided to just keep him and let him go free agent and get a three for him.

  38. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Oct 28, 2013 10:25 AM

    nflpoker says:Oct 28, 2013 10:13 AM

    Let us not forget back in 1998, the Vikings set the record for most points scored for a season up to that point. The problem was, was that their defense was rated in the the high 20′s or 30′s. All they needed was just an average defense and they would have gone to the SB. The only reason they got to the NFC championship game was because of their offense.
    _______

    They were 13th in the league in yards allowed and sixth in points allowed. It wasn’t a great defense, but it was good enough to get to the Super Bowl if they hadn’t choked in that game. Just goes to show that the best defense is a good offense.

  39. immafubared says: Oct 28, 2013 10:26 AM

    I would expect Pederson would come out today and tell us just how sore his hamstring, ankle, leg, or whatever is. You take away a lot of those 60,70,80 yard breakaway runs and this guy is just better than average.

    He is one guy I’m not impressed with on or off the field. I hope he is supporting all those knocked up women of his. Real class.

  40. purplehaze28 says: Oct 28, 2013 10:30 AM

    Sorry boys, if he goes anywhere, it will be Seattle…

  41. nflpoker says: Oct 28, 2013 10:32 AM

    There is no way, NO WAY, that Allen will command a 1st round draft pick. It will probably be a 2nd or a reasonable number of draft picks which are not in the lower, lower rounds. The Vikings would already get a 3rd round compensatory pick if he leaves due to FA.

    So what’s left???? a 2nd or a multiple of draft picks. Trading for another player just WON’T happen.

    Process of elimination, people. Think clearly.

  42. tokyosandblaster says: Oct 28, 2013 10:48 AM

    4sacroc says:
    Oct 28, 2013 8:28 AM
    “Embrace the suck.”

    108 5
    Report comment
    GenXJay says:
    Oct 28, 2013 8:28 AM
    embrace the suck.

    51 6

    —–

    Uh oh.

    Contra is going to think you’re the same person!

    Where is she, btw?

  43. nbarber2013 says: Oct 28, 2013 11:01 AM

    I am neither a Vikings fan nor Vikings hater. The team needs to rebuild starting now, and I think Jared should go get a SB with a contender. I would love to see him get one. Hopefully he can go get one with Seattle this year! Hell Send AP to Seattle along with him!

  44. seals1 says: Oct 28, 2013 11:12 AM

    Maybe a 5 or 6 unless more than one team really want him and they battle for him. He can still play but the vikings hold no cards. 7 Games in and the season is over. Wow, impressive show.

  45. truvikingfan says: Oct 28, 2013 11:14 AM

    This ain’t madden folks……

    ….and it won’t matter until the Wilfs decide to clean house, from the GM down.

  46. fground says: Oct 28, 2013 11:27 AM

    Reality Police says:

    “SMH. The Cardinals wouldn’t trade Larry Fitzgerald to the Vikings for their entire defense, let alone “straight up” for Jared Allen.”

    That’s actually a good point. I wonder what a GM would take – a 1st rounder or the entire Viking defence? If it’s the Vikings first rounder I would take the pick.

  47. dougy1970 says: Oct 28, 2013 11:32 AM

    Uhhh, this talk of eliminated teams dumping their players for next season is way out of hand. It just doesn’t happen that often in the NFL. This ain’t baseball where teams can trade for prospects. NFL teams never hack-up draft picks anymore. This Richardson trade has spawned a lot of absurd theories.

  48. atthemurph says: Oct 28, 2013 11:36 AM

    The Vikings aren’t getting a 1st, they aren’t getting a 2nd, they aren’t even getting a 3rd round compensatory pick for Allen.

    He’s done. He’s old and he can’t beat a 4th round rookie LT from Colorado. MN would be lucky to get a contingent 5th rounder for him next year.

    He’s not locked into a contract, he’s going to ask for huge money (he won’t get it). He’s got 4.5 sacks this season, all against PITT, NYG and CHI. He couldn’t muster one v. Cleve, Carolina or GB….

    He isn’t good v. the run either. And he’s getting worse, not better. MN would be smart to just let him walk unless some stupid team would give them anything in return.

  49. filthymcnasty1 says: Oct 28, 2013 11:42 AM

    Once again the ridiculous Viking homers have grossly overvalued Allen.

  50. overratedsteelerhater says: Oct 28, 2013 11:48 AM

    looks like Denver has the cap room to do it.this would make them very tough to beatbut as we know anything can happen in 1 game your out playoffs

  51. aclerok says: Oct 28, 2013 11:48 AM

    skolvikesskol says:
    Oct 28, 2013 9:00 AM
    2 1sts. Maybe 1st/2nd. Or a first and a couple players.

    ================================

    For a half season rental of Allen before he hits FA?

    Something funny in the air over there in MN. Thanks for breathing it up before it blows East to Green Bay.

  52. allday28mvpmvp says: Oct 28, 2013 11:56 AM

    fwippel says: Oct 28, 2013 8:41 AM

    As much as I hate to say this (as a Viking fan), the Vikings would be better off trading him. The season is lost; Jaren Allen is on the wrong side of 30, and he’s not going to the playoffs in his final year as a Viking. The Vikings are likely to have an entirely new coaching staff and front office next season, which means more “rebuilding”.

    ——-

    Entire new coaching staff AND front office?
    If you think Rick Spielman is getting fired then you are BONKERS! Fraizer could and should be gone but firing Spielman is not something the Wilf’s are prepared to do. Theres no way.

  53. sfsugator says: Oct 28, 2013 11:57 AM

    Did anyone else notice last night when the players get introduced individually that Jared Allen and I quote
    “Jared Allen, Culinary Academy” lol

    So classic

  54. allday28mvpmvp says: Oct 28, 2013 12:00 PM

    atthemurph says: Oct 28, 2013 11:36 AM

    The Vikings aren’t getting a 1st, they aren’t getting a 2nd, they aren’t even getting a 3rd round compensatory pick for Allen.

    —–

    I realize you are just trolling but the only way the Vikings don’t get a 3rd compensatory pick is if Allen doesn’t sign anywhere next year. That wont happen to a player that is only 32 and has more sacks than any other player the past 6 years. I mean the guy has averaged a sack per game for almost 7 years. Get real.

    And as for saying he “isn’t good against the run” ummmm… He’s a DE. They are not signed to be run stoppers.

  55. thesconnienation says: Oct 28, 2013 12:01 PM

    immafubared says:
    Oct 28, 2013 10:23 AM
    Spielman is a genius at drafting and the Vikes every year out draft everyone else

    ___________________________

    Hahahaha! I really hope this was a joke.

  56. allday28mvpmvp says: Oct 28, 2013 12:04 PM

    immafubared says: Oct 28, 2013 10:26 AM

    I would expect Pederson would come out today and tell us just how sore his hamstring, ankle, leg, or whatever is. You take away a lot of those 60,70,80 yard breakaway runs and this guy is just better than average.

    —–

    Wow. Can’t believe I read this.

    Adrian has more yards after contact than any other back in the NFL since he was a rookie.
    Unfortunately those 60, 70, 80 yard runs cant be just “taken away”. Those runs are what makes him the biggest offensive threat in the NFL.

  57. allday28mvpmvp says: Oct 28, 2013 12:10 PM

    floratiotime says: Oct 28, 2013 9:54 AM

    One of the most ungrateful players ever to pull on a uniform.

    ——-

    What is ungrateful about Jared Allen?

    This guy started the non-profit “Wounded Warriors” and has raised a lot of money to build brand new homes with handicap accessibility for wounded American soldiers. If that is what you consider “ungrateful” then you might want to re-think your position.

  58. rufustfireflyjr says: Oct 28, 2013 12:18 PM

    jimmysee says: Oct 28, 2013 9:11 AM
    No one is going to give you a second round pick for rent-a-player Allen.

    And no one, except maybe the Redskins who don’t know any better, are going to want to give Allen a long term deal for more buck$$ after this season.

    Stop living in the past. The Redskins haven’t overpaid aging free agents in the four years since Bruce Allen and Shanahan took over. The team still stinks, but at least they’ve followed the more sensible strategy of signing younger free agents with some upside.

  59. conormacleod says: Oct 28, 2013 12:20 PM

    immafubared says:
    Oct 28, 2013 10:26 AM
    I would expect Pederson would come out today and tell us just how sore his hamstring, ankle, leg, or whatever is. You take away a lot of those 60,70,80 yard breakaway runs and this guy is just better than average.
    —————————————
    You’re right. And if you take away all the great plays that Rodgers, Manning, Brees, and Brady make, they are just average QB’s.

  60. fwippel says: Oct 28, 2013 12:21 PM

    While I can understand all the anti-Speilman sentiment expressed here (and to some extent, I agree with it), I really think the bigger problem in Minnesota is with the coaching staff.

    The OL has the same five starters from last season, and yet the difference is like night and day. This year, the run blocking has been sub-par, and the pass blocking has gone from average to poor. What is the coaching staff doing to try to fix this?

    Last season, the defense played well enough to help win games. This year, they haven’t held a team to less than 27 points. The only personnel loses on defense from last year to this year were Jasper Brinkley at MLB and Antoine Winfield, who was fading and often injured.

    Viking coaches are not getting results from their gameplans or the players implementing them. The Vikings have drafted five players in the first round the last two seasons. None of those five players were considered reaches, and every one of them has talent to produce at a high level for a long time. If that doesn’t happen, I blame the coaches.

    This team has talent. They need coaches who can use that talent to get results. The Wilfs need to talk Bill Polian out of retirement, and let him run the team.

  61. stuartscottslazyeyeball says: Oct 28, 2013 12:39 PM

    At least Sam Steele Ponder is hot.

  62. ajlafrance says: Oct 28, 2013 12:50 PM

    OK.

    Ansah, Fairley, Suh and Allen.

    Sigh. A Lions fan can wish!!!

  63. bigpoppa5501 says: Oct 28, 2013 12:59 PM

    Texans Fan here…although always watched a lot of Packers, Vikings Bears games growing up. I really thought Allen would have a huge game last night going against a rookie Left Tackle but I didn’t see a whole lot from him. I don’t know how much was the Pack’s new found running game, Rodgers just moving around so well or maybe the young kid Baktiari just played his arse off?

    Either way it wasn’t the same Jared Allen I have enjoyed watching all these years.

    I think if Spielman could get a 2nd or 3rd for him he would be extremely fortunate.

  64. sdakota says: Oct 28, 2013 1:09 PM

    great idea on allen… except broncos have no room under salary cap. i love all these hypothetical trade sports writers make up with out any thought to the salary cap

  65. crookfactory says: Oct 28, 2013 1:30 PM

    7.9 million, wow thats a lot of bearskin rugs

  66. 6kingswest says: Oct 28, 2013 1:41 PM

    filthymcnasty1 says:
    Oct 28, 2013 8:45 AM
    Allen said. “I’m not an idiot.”

    ****************************************

    Don’t sell yourself short, Jared. You’re a tremendous idiot.

    ______________

    For once, I agree with filthy.

  67. NoHomeTeam says: Oct 28, 2013 1:49 PM

    cpo187 says:
    1) Straight up for Larry Fitzgerald. This would instantly make the Offense a force for next year

    ***** Yeah, and the Cardinals would jump at the chance to trade away their only offensive weapon

    2) (after they draft a good QB with their top 5 pick. AP would go crazy if teams had to deal with Fitz and Jennings (once again, as long as they get a QB who can throw).

    ***** This implies that you believe that the Vikings are capable of drafting a good QB. Nothing we have seen in this century backs up that impression.

  68. 2ruefan says: Oct 28, 2013 2:21 PM

    I’m sorry, but I just cannot fathom the kind of thinking that says “You have no choice but to trade your best players”.

    What kind of sense does that make.. and what kind of UNIVERSE?

    How does trading Adrian Peterson for draft picks (which would likely NEVER be used on anybody NEARLY as good as him, and then having to replace him somehow) make ANY SENSE at all?

    Allen is a bit different. Free agent who might leave and they get nothing, so get something now.

    But the idea of thinking that “the team is bad, so trade everyone away and start over” is just so idiotic I can’t believe people say it.

    Have you seen how LONG it takes an expansion team to get good? Year and Years. Remember just two years ago this team was just as bad and people were saying the SAME thing. What happened? Next year.. 10-6 and in the playoffs.

    Put down the crack-pipe people….

  69. hwkeycubronco says: Oct 28, 2013 2:27 PM

    If I’m John Elway I trade my entire 2014 Draft for both AP Jared Allen….is this not the madden game. ..lol

  70. 2ruefan says: Oct 28, 2013 2:28 PM

    ***** This implies that you believe that the Vikings are capable of drafting a good QB. Nothing we have seen in this century backs up that impression.

    ***********************************************
    Century?
    I beg to differ:
    Fran Tarkenton
    Tommy Kramer
    Duante Culpepper

    After that however.. it’ has been pretty scan.

  71. strongmackn says: Oct 28, 2013 2:38 PM

    This story is ridiculous. Who wants a DE whos in the back 40 of his career, obviously is gonna cost alot to resign, and throwing in a draft pick?

    Why would a team do that when they could save some cap space and let him hit free agency? Where the money grubbing allen wouldnt hold the leverage.

    Then you save cap space and a draft pick.

  72. rufustfireflyjr says: Oct 28, 2013 2:39 PM

    All the guys you list were drafted in the LAST century (the 20th century). Reading comprehension is our friend.

  73. tiggerblood says: Oct 28, 2013 2:43 PM

    Bengals have the cap room for a rent a player. C’mon Mike make the move!

  74. myeaglescantwin says: Oct 28, 2013 2:45 PM

    for the life of me,, i can’t understand how Allen is so damn skinny yet weighs 270 and makes the plays he does.

    but a 2nd round pick is absurd

  75. thesconnienation says: Oct 28, 2013 2:52 PM

    2ruefan says:
    Oct 28, 2013 2:28 PM
    ***** This implies that you believe that the Vikings are capable of drafting a good QB. Nothing we have seen in this century backs up that impression.

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    Century?
    I beg to differ:
    Fran Tarkenton
    Tommy Kramer
    Duante Culpepper

    After that however.. it’ has been pretty scan.

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    Culpepper was not good. He just threw the ball up to Moss and let him make the play. Moss made him much better, not the other way around. Big and strong? Yes. Good? Nope.

  76. thesconnienation says: Oct 28, 2013 2:54 PM

    2ruefan says:
    Oct 28, 2013 2:21 PM
    I’m sorry, but I just cannot fathom the kind of thinking that says “You have no choice but to trade your best players”.

    What kind of sense does that make.. and what kind of UNIVERSE?

    How does trading Adrian Peterson for draft picks (which would likely NEVER be used on anybody NEARLY as good as him, and then having to replace him somehow) make ANY SENSE at all?

    __________________________________

    You must be young. Trading away your best player on a bad team for draft picks worked pretty good for the Cowboys. Who was that sucker team who gave up so much for a certain RB???

  77. ponder7vikings says: Oct 28, 2013 2:57 PM

    trade him to new england for aqib talib or to denver for oswiler

  78. NoHomeTeam says: Oct 28, 2013 3:04 PM

    2ruefan says:
    Oct 28, 2013 2:28 PM
    ***** This implies that you believe that the Vikings are capable of drafting a good QB. Nothing we have seen in this century backs up that impression.

    ***********************************************
    Century?
    I beg to differ:
    Fran Tarkenton
    Tommy Kramer
    Duante Culpepper

    After that however.. it’ has been pretty scan.

    *******************
    Might want to glance at calendar, Rip. All of the guys you reference were drafted in the latter half of the 20th century.

  79. 2ruefan says: Oct 28, 2013 3:23 PM

    thesconnienation says:

    No I’m not young. Probably older than you. Been a fan of the Vikings since about 1968.

    But I’m also aware of the economics of the NFL today versus 25 years ago.

    Do you think that anybody in today’s day and age would give up all their draft choices, plus a few next year and a bunch of players for AP like Mike Lynn did for Walker?

    Not a chance my friend.

    Again.. Makes NO SENSE, so stop suggesting it.
    They have to get better via draft, and can do it without dismantling the team.

  80. katopete16 says: Oct 28, 2013 3:55 PM

    I think a trade with New Englad sounds feasible. Ryan Mallet and a draft pick perhaps???

  81. justintuckrule says: Oct 28, 2013 3:58 PM

    Time for the Vikings to get even on the Herschel Walker trade and trade Petersen to the Cowboys for their next 15 drafts.

  82. justintuckrule says: Oct 28, 2013 4:10 PM

    Jerry Jones is ripe for a fleecing after watching his team blow two wins and having to start Phillip Tanner at RB (wasn’t he the dad in Full House?). I think he can be taken to the cleaners on an A.P./Allen trade (Cowboys need both). Two firsts a second and a third is not out of the question.

  83. punkthepack says: Oct 28, 2013 6:15 PM

    filthymcnasty1 says: Oct 28, 2013 8:45 AM

    Allen said. “I’m not an idiot.”

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    Don’t sell yourself short, Jared. You’re a tremendous idiot.

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    Being you are a part Packers owner, you will have access to the Vikings when they come to GB. Go ahead tough guy, tell him that yourself.

  84. johnnytarr says: Oct 28, 2013 9:59 PM

    Toby is the RB they should trade. He doesn’t play much any more, good blocker, decent hands & he won’t be back next year, Might not get much but it’s better than nothing. I could see him thrive in NE.

  85. tokyosandblaster says: Oct 28, 2013 10:27 PM

    Alright, I’m not being a “hater” here, this is a real question.

    You wonder who we think the misses are, but I’m wondering who you hit on? If you have a solid base and add that many first round picks, who are all supposedly “hits,” then you aren’t 1-5 right now.

    Unfortunately, I don’t think you have as many hits as you think you do.

    The way I see it, is you have a bunch of C+, B- players in the draft since Spielman took over. Harvin was an A, but he’s gone. Patterson looks like a possible A in the future, but not yet.

  86. thesconnienation says: Oct 29, 2013 9:43 AM

    2ruefan says:
    Oct 28, 2013 3:23 PM

    No I’m not young. Probably older than you. Been a fan of the Vikings since about 1968.

    Have you seen how LONG it takes an expansion team to get good? Year and Years. Remember just two years ago this team was just as bad and people were saying the SAME thing. What happened? Next year.. 10-6 and in the playoffs.

    ___________________

    If you’ve been around that long, then what is your excuse for the comment above? You do realize that both the Panthers and Jaguars made it to their respective conference championship games in their second year.

  87. thesconnienation says: Oct 29, 2013 9:47 AM

    2ruefan says:
    Oct 28, 2013 3:23 PM
    thesconnienation says:

    No I’m not young. Probably older than you. Been a fan of the Vikings since about 1968.

    But I’m also aware of the economics of the NFL today versus 25 years ago.

    Do you think that anybody in today’s day and age would give up all their draft choices, plus a few next year and a bunch of players for AP like Mike Lynn did for Walker?

    Not a chance my friend.

    ___________________________________

    And again you fail to remember your history. Not only did the Vikes do, but the Saints followed the same path 10 years later.

    While the economics have changed, the thinking has not. There will always be a GM willing to take that risk if he thinks it will help. It is a win now league.

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