No Week Nine quarterback decision for Vikings yet

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The Vikings went down to their sixth defeat in seven games with Christian Ponder leading the offense against the Packers on Sunday night, but they’re not sure who will be trying to get their second win when they travel to Dallas next Sunday.

Coach Leslie Frazier said Monday that he would take a couple of days to ruminate on things before deciding about who will get the start in Week Nine. The only thing we know for sure is that it will not be Matt Cassel, who started Minnesota’s only victory of the season, returning to the lineup as Chip Scoggins of the Minneapolis Star Tribune reports that Frazier said Ponder and Josh Freeman are the only two players under consideration.

Freeman has been cleared after suffering a concussion in his Vikings debut last Monday night against the Giants, so the Vikings aren’t waiting for a green light on that front before going ahead with their choice. It’s hard to imagine why Freeman is in Minnesota if not to replace Ponder, especially since Ponder failed to impress against the Packers beyond not turning the ball over.

75 responses to “No Week Nine quarterback decision for Vikings yet

  1. First time watching a full game of the Vikes all season, but i am sorry to say the problem may not entirely be on the QB, that D is garbage.. oh boy. They couldnt stop anything. I mean the Pack went for it on almost ever 4th down attempt, that just shows that hey your D is garbage.

  2. It’s too bad a three- headed coin hasn’t been designed for this issue. How about Rock, Paper, Scissors?

  3. Al Michaels was disgusted with how often he had to mention that the Packers were owning the Vikings on 3rd and 4th. He actually mentioned that he doesn’t want to read that stat any more.

    Vikings defense should be the topic of this conversation for sure. Yeah, there QBs can’t get anything going. But, if you defense can’t STOP anything then you NEED a Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady. You don’t need a franchise quarterback.. You need a hall of famer at that point!

  4. To beat the Packers, all the Vikings needed was a QB who could generate 46 points. I mean, how difficult is that?
    This “all the Vikings need is a QB” debate laughable.

  5. It’ll be interesting to see what sort of fake injury Speilman and Frazier invent to explain the benching of Ponder this week.

    My money is on blood loss from getting eye-stabbed by Greg Jennings.

  6. The Vikes would be better off not playing a QB and just snapping it to Peterson in the wildcat. If Peterson does need to throw here and there, I’m sure he throws a much better ball than Ponder does anyway.

  7. This makes me wonder if Frazier has been given any private assurances about his job security by Spielman. Frazier has to know that Cassel gives him the best chance to win now, and he shouldn’t care about finding the QB of the future because he isn’t going to be part of the future if he doesn’t win now. Could Frazier get another year, obviously with the stipulation that both coordinators would be replaced, if he starts the guy Spielman wants to evaluate?

  8. You can’t really blame last nights loss on the QB. The defense was not able to get off the field on 3rd down… that is demoralizing for the whole team.

  9. doe22us says:
    Oct 28, 2013 2:14 PM

    I mean the Pack went for it on almost ever 4th down attempt, that just shows that hey your D is garbage.

    ———————————————————-

    If the D were truly garbage, you’d never get to 4th down! 🙂

    (Packers punter was the Maytag repair man on Sunday — the loneliest man in town. Never got on the field!)

  10. Pregame- have cassel, ponder and the new guy get in sausage costumes and race.

    Have the viking on motorcycle chase them- have Jared Allen try to lasso them.

    After one them crosses the finish line, he takes off the sausage head and the crowd roars no matter who it is. Frazier can give them a trophy. Have some fun with it!

  11. Rick Spielman is a Magician says:
    Oct 28, 2013 2:31 PM
    This makes me wonder if Frazier has been given any private assurances about his job security by Spielman. Frazier has to know that Cassel gives him the best chance to win now, and he shouldn’t care about finding the QB of the future because he isn’t going to be part of the future if he doesn’t win now. Could Frazier get another year, obviously with the stipulation that both coordinators would be replaced, if he starts the guy Spielman wants to evaluate?
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    I disagree. Not with your thought process but that you think Frazier may not Cassell gives them their best chance to win. LOL. I may know it. You may know it. Frazier??? Not so much.

  12. We know the defence is really bad, so here are some other things…

    They need to re-evaluate the offensive line too. Am I the only one who still cannot believe they gave Phil Loadholt that contract extension?

    The whole offensive line has been atrocious for run blocking. I have never seen AP hit in the backfield and tackled before he even gets to the line of scrimmage as many times as I’ve seen it this year. AP can blame himself all he wants, but running behind that line is near impossible.

    Another issue I have is the coaching. When your offensive coordinator has a playcard the size of a postcard, there is something really wrong. When teams know that when Cordarrell Patterson is on the field it is going to be a simple bubble screen, you know there is a problem. I don’t understand Musgraves reasoning, but having the same 6 plays for each game isn’t going to make things competitive.

    Fraiser needs to go, great guy, obviously well liked as a person, but he needs to take charge of his team and show emotion and passion on the sideline. He doesn’t get after his players or praise them during game time. Same dull, expressionless face every Sunday. Fire up your team, chew them out, something!

    It is amazing that there is even one team (Jaguars) that are worse than the Vikings, but heck, I’m sure the Jags could beat the Vikes.

  13. Cassell already laughing his way to the bank, and Freeman knows he’s in a win-win situation: lose the game and still start the following game AND get paid

    or

    win the game, still start the following game AND get paid.

  14. A couple of other stats from the game:
    Jennings= 1 catch 9 yds., 1 run over by teammate,
    and a long apology to Rodgers after the game wishing he was still in GB !

    Allen = 0 as in 0 sacks and 0 tackles ! OVERRATED

    SCOREBOARD

  15. Vikings panicked after missing out on Newton, Locker, and Gabbert. They could of had Kapernick or Dalton. Woulda, shoulda, coulda.

  16. The Vikings aren’t naming their starter because they are waiting for the Bills to cut Flynn and give them their chance to overpay him, too.

  17. “The Vikes would be better off not playing a QB and just snapping it to Peterson in the wildcat.”

    ^^ This is actually not a terrible idea. Peterson to Gerhart in the flat to set up the run. LOL!

  18. Mark Dayton just announced that Freeman will be the starter by executive order. It’s very important to make sure that Minnesota is viewed as a multicultural, advanced society, and this is the only way anyone notices Minnesota.

    He, as well as Al Franken and Amy Klobuchar, would also like to point out that they don’t condone the behavior of Packer fans at the dome yesterday. They appeared to be drinking , laughing, having fun, and none of them had their jersey tucked into their ultra cool Girbaud jeans. This is unacceptable behavior, as it shows no sophistication or snobbery whatsoever.

  19. I’m a Packer fan, but the Vikes D really misses their 2 safeties. Harrison Smith is the type of guy who covers up some of the defensive deficiencies. He can take on a runner who is about to hit the second level, and make up for bad coverage with help. When you lose a guy like him, you are going to have some issues.

  20. They have to start Freeman the rest of the year just to see if they can get a return on their investment. What’s to lose? He wass thrown into a horrible situation right off the bat, so I discount that first game.

    Ponder is who he is………an average QB, nothing more. Trade him to Cleveland for Josh Gordon.

  21. Judsonjr—so how are the Packers doing it? Matthews, Perry, Heyward, Jones, etc are all starters that have been out during the 4 game winning streak. The answer is the Packers organization is just far superior—in every way. Injuries just aren’t an excuse in the NFL—should Packer nation still be bitching about Nick Collins HOF career ending 6 years early?

  22. If they start Christian, he’ll be lying in the corner in the fetal position midway through the 2nd quarter…

  23. Rick Spielman is a Magician says:Oct 28, 2013 2:31 PM

    This makes me wonder if Frazier has been given any private assurances about his job security by Spielman. Frazier has to know that Cassel gives him the best chance to win now, and he shouldn’t care about finding the QB of the future because he isn’t going to be part of the future if he doesn’t win now. Could Frazier get another year, obviously with the stipulation that both coordinators would be replaced, if he starts the guy Spielman wants to evaluate?

    ——-

    I don’t think so. I think Leslie and his staff are gone no matter what. The only reason Spielman doesn’t get canned is that the Wilfs don’t want to take the time to find a new GM and completely overhaul the coaching staff. Not with a new stadium to build. They’ll tell Rick to go get a new coaching staff and turn the franchise around or be fired. So, I think we’re stuck with this for the next 3-5 years. Unless Gruden comes in to save the day….unfortunately, we’ll probably need the #1 overall pick to make that happen.

  24. Lets see Freeman scores 0 points against a o-6 team … Ponders scores 24 points against a first place team … hmmmmmm …. decisions decisions.
    It really does not matter who the QB is fix the defence first.

  25. canadianvikingfaniii says:Oct 28, 2013 2:47 PM

    Fraiser needs to go, great guy, obviously well liked as a person, but he needs to take charge of his team and show emotion and passion on the sideline. He doesn’t get after his players or praise them during game time. Same dull, expressionless face every Sunday. Fire up your team, chew them out, something!
    ________

    I just hate this bit about Frazier being a bad coach because he doesn’t flip out on the sideline. I suppose Tom Landry, Bud Grant, and Tony Dungy were bad coaches too? Sideline demeanor has nothing to do with coaching acumen.

  26. mvp43 says:Oct 28, 2013 3:16 PM

    Ponder is who he is………an average QB, nothing more. Trade him to Cleveland for Josh Gordon.
    ________

    That’s a good idea, but I was thinking we should try to trade Ponder for Calvin Johnson or A.J. Green. Let’s see what those teams say first and then we can fall back on that Josh Gordon sure thing if we have to.

  27. In the last game of the season I expect “Frazier” to laugh evilly, peel off the amazing life-like mask, and reveal… Les Steckel!

  28. My beautiful 2009 television set is “TAINTED” merely because it showed the football-team* from MN.

  29. YES the defense sucks- but if the offense could sustain a drive they wouldn’t be on the field for most of the game.
    We GET IT that not all coaches are fiery guys- but to compare Frazier to Landry, Grant & Dungy is ridiculous-they were proven winners. The Vikings as a team lack enthusiasm while playing- that falls on the coach. I have been to the home games this year- they seem flat every week. We don’t need a spaz as a coach but we need someone who can motivate better than Frazier has done to this point.
    We made the playoffs last year on the back of a running back who had an epic season. We also lost Winfield who was the quarterback of that defense.
    We NEED to continue to lose to create the change that is necessary- no more band-aids, it’s time to clean house starting with Spielman.

  30. raideralex99 says: Oct 28, 2013 3:41 PM

    Lets see Freeman scores 0 points against a o-6 team … Ponders scores 24 points against a first place team … hmmmmmm …. decisions decisions.
    It really does not matter who the QB is fix the defence first.
    ———————————————————-

    The Vikings were down 41-17 before they pulled their starters- 7 of those were from a kickoff return and the other 7 came from AP who refused to get tackled.
    PLEASE omit the garbage drives at the end of the game when you are analyzing Ponder’s performance

  31. The problem is not their QB. The problem is their defense. Packers converted 3rd downs easily and even 4th downs. They had no respect for the Vikings D and they were probably laughing on the sidelines and in the locker room, even the flight home!

  32. And the other thing not mentioned is that the run defense actually played pretty well. Other than the one TD run, they held the Packer running game under control.
    They just have ABSOLUTELY no Secondary at all. The Packer offense just executed every PASS at will. Every time the D-line and Linebackers stopped the run for a 3rd and short or 4th and Short – the Pack converted via a pass EASILY.

    And BTW, it was not an insult to the Offense as some have suggested. That’s an insult to the defense. As in, we can move the ball at will, no reason to worry we’ll be stopped on 4th down.

  33. Again, we knew the QBs were going to suck this year — we didn’t expect the D to be this bad. As a result, all this manufactured QB controversy malarkey is really secondary.

    And it’s good to see the cheesers posting on this article are capable of winning with class (now where is that sarcasm font).

  34. Another reason to fire Frazier – the DC and OC are incompetent. The Pack has one receiver to double cover last night – Jordy Nelson. Not only don’t they double him, they have Josh Robinson covering half the time. I never once saw Nelson bumped off the line. On the long TD they blitzed a corner and left Nelson covered by a linebacker. Unbelievable.

  35. Maybe the Vikings should consider adjusting the defense before worrying about who the QB is.

    For starters, they might want to consider either benching Josh Robinson, or moving him to free safety with Harrison Smith out. Yeah, the guy is fast, but he can’t cover man-to-man to save his life.

  36. why did i make this my user name !

    Minnesota Vikings Draft Needs

    NEW COACHING STAFF to bad we cant draft that 🙂
    QB
    WR
    OL
    FB
    DL
    LB
    CB
    S (Harrison Smith is the best player on the defense but sanford is not getting it done)
    P (locke this guy cant pin any team inside the 5)

  37. I don’t think the Vikings have a franchise QB on their roster, regardless of who you pick. But, Freeman has at least looked like he might have potential in previous seasons, so it makes sense to give him a try. But, with how bad the OL is playing this season, how can you get any kind of read on any of the QBs? When the defense is in the backfield immediately every other play either hitting AP or hurrying any of the QBs, how can you evaluate any offense?

    Also, as others have mentioned, the defense is playing terrible. Winfield was the only CB in the last 10 years or more that could even be called decent or better. You need at least 2, and really 3, competent CBs to be able to compete in the NFL.

  38. Rick Spielman is a Magician says:
    Oct 28, 2013 3:43 PM________

    I just hate this bit about Frazier being a bad coach because he doesn’t flip out on the sideline. I suppose Tom Landry, Bud Grant, and Tony Dungy were bad coaches too? Sideline demeanor has nothing to do with coaching acumen.
    ———————————————–
    The first two played in completely different eras, and the last one had Peyton Manning. Sure, I’ll take Leslie as a statue coach doing nothing all game long while Peyton runs the show! BTW: Leslie also hand picked his asst coaches. You still want to defend him?

  39. Joe Webb needs to play QB AND CB. Both ways! (I’m only slightly joking).

    FYI: Greg Jennings isn’t wishing he still played for the Packers (Packers fans need to realize none of their players care about that town. Does Favre live there? You think Rodgers won’t go back to CA when he retires?). Jennings just wishes the Vikings were winning more. He took the money. Jared will to at the end of the season. They all do. And so would you.

  40. markj71 says:
    Oct 28, 2013 3:56 PM
    raideralex99 says: Oct 28, 2013 3:41 PM

    Lets see Freeman scores 0 points against a o-6 team … Ponders scores 24 points against a first place team … hmmmmmm …. decisions decisions.
    It really does not matter who the QB is fix the defence first.
    ———————————————————-

    The Vikings were down 41-17 before they pulled their starters- 7 of those were from a kickoff return and the other 7 came from AP who refused to get tackled.
    PLEASE omit the garbage drives at the end of the game when you are analyzing Ponder’s performance

    ————————————————————————
    How bad is Freeman if he can’t even get points in garbage drives.

  41. No Need to panic Viking fans ! Changes can happen FAST(Chiefs)….really, the best thing for us is to keep sucking. Get some more good draft picks, they will start to accumulate. This CRAP Tampa D has to get put to sleep. Too many soft spots for the opposition to get easy 3-5 yard plays with our dbacks out in left field! Thus our 3rd down nightmares. Get a good LB,another CB. Add a couple linemen. Some will call me nuts, but I have been watching Johnny Football every game. He CAN be ours. He can make all the throws,is very elusive and has b@lls the size of Favre. Closest style to Favre I ever seen. Bull on his size, he handles monsters every Saturday. He will be good and I want the Vikes to bring his circus to town!! After all, we are very used to the circus….

  42. vikeshave0titles says:
    Oct 28, 2013 3:24 PM
    Judsonjr—so how are the Packers doing it? Matthews, Perry, Heyward, Jones, etc are all starters that have been out during the 4 game winning streak. The answer is the Packers organization is just far superior—in every way. Injuries just aren’t an excuse in the NFL—should Packer nation still be bitching about Nick Collins HOF career ending 6 years early?
    ………..
    Take it easy man….he was just pointing out the Vikes miss Harrison Smith back there. All teams have injuries. Keep on thinking the team you chose to cheer for is FAR superior……I suppose you think you are a better, more knowledgeable football fan because you chose to cheer for the Pack too? OH THE ARROGANCE!!!!

  43. If Freeman is cleared from concussion why does Frazier continue to play these games? Freeman will start, just like we knew he would 2 weeks ago and we all knew Cassel would get the start in London? It’s this sort of useless mystery that will get Frazier fired.

  44. conormacleod says:Oct 28, 2013 5:07 PM

    Rick Spielman is a Magician says:
    Oct 28, 2013 3:43 PM________

    I just hate this bit about Frazier being a bad coach because he doesn’t flip out on the sideline. I suppose Tom Landry, Bud Grant, and Tony Dungy were bad coaches too? Sideline demeanor has nothing to do with coaching acumen.
    ———————————————–
    The first two played in completely different eras, and the last one had Peyton Manning. Sure, I’ll take Leslie as a statue coach doing nothing all game long while Peyton runs the show! BTW: Leslie also hand picked his asst coaches. You still want to defend him?
    __________

    All I’m defending is how he conducts himself on the sideline. There are successful coaches with all kinds of personalities. If you think the amount of emotion a coach shows during a game is the primary determinant of how successful the coach is, then you, sir, are an idiot.

  45. Regarding the headline;
    No QB decision = no clue (on the coaches part).
    But the DB’s, how can you even give them a fair evaluation when they’re forced to play cover 2 – how is Dallas doing with cover 2?

    They may well stink, but have we seen their best or just the worst of the most horrible DC in the entire league.

    Regarding Packer Trolls: The thing is Packer fans

    NEED

    absolutely everyone to approve of their team.

    Why?
    Good question.

    All I can tell you is if you live in WI and aren’t a Packer fan, you will defy Packer fans’ comprehension and challenge their imaginations.
    You might as well tell them a cow’s primary function is not being tipped.

  46. well i finaly found something that changes faster than the Minnesota weather”VIKINGS QB’s “. Hmm….. we are supposed to get snow tommorrow A QB WITH WHITE HAIR ?

  47. 2ruefan says: Oct 28, 2013 4:19 PM

    And the other thing not mentioned is that the run defense actually played pretty well. Other than the one TD run, they held the Packer running game under control.
    ====================================

    Under control? Did you even watch the game??? Packers rushed for 182 yards and two td’s. That’s why it’s not mentioned, it wasn’t there, lol.

  48. usdcoyotesfan says: Oct 28, 2013 3:01 PM

    Classless, hapless organization.

    ###############

    Don’t fall under the spell (or stench) of FilthyMcLoser. He’s not as great as he thinks he is.

  49. packerenglishmajor says: Oct 28, 2013 6:08 PM

    Regarding the headline;
    No QB decision = no clue (on the coaches part).
    But the DB’s, how can you even give them a fair evaluation when they’re forced to play cover 2 – how is Dallas doing with cover 2?

    They may well stink, but have we seen their best or just the worst of the most horrible DC in the entire league.

    Regarding Packer Trolls: The thing is Packer fans

    NEED

    absolutely everyone to approve of their team.

    Why?
    Good question.

    All I can tell you is if you live in WI and aren’t a Packer fan, you will defy Packer fans’ comprehension and challenge their imaginations.
    You might as well tell them a cow’s primary function is not being tipped.

    ##############

    I actually live in Green Bay and the Packer fans live up to the nicknames of “Rubes.”

    What’s interesting is when the Packers win, everyone is happy. But, when they lose, the whole town skulks around and most people pout. It’s beautiful, especially because we all know they will have a good regular season record, then get embarrassed in the playoffs again. We all know it’s coming again this year.

    There are many people who advertise on their cars that they are “owners.” They might as well put a bumper sticker on there that says “Rube.”

  50. It’s a good thing I have all 3 of them on my FFL roster. Can you believe they were all available? Jennings too.

  51. Why don’t they just ask Greg Jenning’s sister? She seems to have an opinion about everything else.

    After hearing from the Viking trolls all spring about how this was the season that Noodle Arm Ponder would finally shine, it is amazing how wrong the Viking trolls really were. Ponder is terrible, Freeman is a hot mess and Cassel is a career back up, how hard could the decision really be?

  52. Well the Dome was a total disaster, so why shouldn’t the last season there be as well.

    Fix the helmets, they don’t match. And fire everyone, the can’t coach.

    We have no starting quarterback, but we also have NO middle linebacker! Erin Henderson can’t call or recognize anything the offense is doing to save his life or help the rest of the idiots on D outside of Robison. 1-15. There is not a game left on the schedule we can win. We have no quarterback on offense or defense.

    Bye #69, Bye #93. Shoulda coulda but didn’t get that ring in ’09.

  53. Fire everyone then bring in Bill Parcells or Bill Polian as GM and then maybe they can decide who will be starting at QB.

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