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It didn’t take long for Haden’s Ravens remarks to spread

Joe Haden, Torrey Smith AP

It was safe to surmise this morning that when Browns cornerback Joe Haden said “the Ravens aren’t the Ravens of old,” that word would get around.

And even though it’s hard to argue at some level, the Ravens were careful to file it away from motivation.

According to Aaron Wilson of the Baltimore Sun, Ravens right tackle Michael Oher said players got an e-mail this morning with Haden’s comments.

Everybody saw it,” Oher said. “I trust in the guys upstairs. We’ve got great guys upstairs. If you’re in this organization as a player, you’re a great player and we’re here for a reason. I’m looking for great things in the future for this team the next nine weeks.”

To be fair, Haden wasn’t so much taunting the team that had beaten his 11 straight meetings, so much as noting the extreme difference in personality, as the Ravens turned over a lot of old guys who were central to that streak.

“I mean, I think it’s safe to say,” wide receiver Torrey Smith said of Haden’s remark. “It’s not the same team. It’s not like I’m going to take anything to him. We’re still built the same, but it’s not the same guys. That’s just fact to it.

“It’s not like we’re going to take it like, ‘He said this, they’re not the same team,’ because anybody can go out there and get beat any week. At the same time, we play the way we’re capable of playing, we’re still the Ravens and we’ll get to that point and other teams will know it.”

Of course, the reality is that the game could be largely decided by the sides of the ball that Haden and Smith don’t play for, as it has in the past.

Jason Campbell will be the sixth quarterback to start for the Browns during the 11-game streak, while the Ravens have had Joe Flacco throughout.

Smith talked about their need to close games out, and many other things, with Florio on PFT Live yesterday.

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28 Responses to “It didn’t take long for Haden’s Ravens remarks to spread”
  1. lovefootball4life says: Nov 1, 2013 3:08 PM

    Somehow I think we are trying to manufacture excitement for what will otherwise be a pretty dull game. The players aren’t buying into it. Don’t think too many fans are either.

  2. kevo126 says: Nov 1, 2013 3:11 PM

    more importantly: the browns are still the browns.

  3. doctorrustbelt says: Nov 1, 2013 3:12 PM

    “ELITE” Joe Flacco

    8 td — 8 int — 4 fumbles

    22nd in the NFL in QB Rating

    22nd in the NFL in Completion Percentage

    18th in the NFL in QBR

    17th in the NFL in Yard Per Attempt

  4. thegrigga49 says: Nov 1, 2013 3:20 PM

    I like The Ravens style, top notch organization -Niners fan-

  5. takemytalentstosoutheuclid says: Nov 1, 2013 3:26 PM

    “ELITE” Joe Flacco

    8 td — 8 int — 4 fumbles

    22nd in the NFL in QB Rating

    22nd in the NFL in Completion Percentage

    18th in the NFL in QBR

    17th in the NFL in Yard Per Attempt

    ************************************

    You forgot 3rd in average annual salary amongst QB’s. Yep, those guys upstairs know what they’re doing….

  6. crownofthehelmet says: Nov 1, 2013 3:29 PM

    Yesterday I had to talk to my 7-yr old about hurtful words, how to ignore them and just go about your business. Maybe I should go to Bal for a similar pep-talk, as it seems the Ravens have a locker room full of 2nd graders.

  7. mswravens says: Nov 1, 2013 3:32 PM

    Doctor Rust – you didn’t mention his won-loss record, not to mention his post-season record & Super Bowl MVP. How many of those you got in rust town?

    You can live in a fantasy football world and talk about stats all season long…meanwhile Flacco keeps winning playoff games. I prefer the real world where the W’s count. For goodness sakes, at least GET a starting QB before criticizing ours!!! (& enjoy the race to the bottom with the Squealers!)

  8. brianjoates says: Nov 1, 2013 3:36 PM

    Don’t leave out super bowl champ and super bowl mvp.

  9. 2ringraven says: Nov 1, 2013 3:42 PM

    takemytalentstosoutheuclid says: Nov 1, 2013 3:26 PM

    “ELITE” Joe Flacco

    8 td — 8 int — 4 fumbles

    22nd in the NFL in QB Rating

    22nd in the NFL in Completion Percentage

    18th in the NFL in QBR

    17th in the NFL in Yard Per Attempt

    ************************************

    You forgot 3rd in average annual salary amongst QB’s. Yep, those guys upstairs know what they’re doing….

    You forgot:
    Super Bowl Champion
    Super Bowl MVP
    Something you’re QB is not

  10. jakec4 says: Nov 1, 2013 3:43 PM

    You really need a win when even a Browns player starts talking about you.

  11. ballboy48 says: Nov 1, 2013 3:47 PM

    Haden meant no disrespect about the Ravens. He’s right about the Ravens of the past, compared to this years team. They have to rebuild, and it’ll take some time. But, this is far from Haden disrespecting them.

  12. j0esixpack says: Nov 1, 2013 3:48 PM

    Kindof ironic to have a player for the Browns say that the Ravens aren’t the Ravens of old

    Technically the Ravens of old ARE the Browns!

  13. southpaw2k says: Nov 1, 2013 3:57 PM

    doctorrustbelt says:
    Nov 1, 2013 3:12 PM
    “ELITE” Joe Flacco

    8 td — 8 int — 4 fumbles

    22nd in the NFL in QB Rating

    22nd in the NFL in Completion Percentage

    18th in the NFL in QBR

    17th in the NFL in Yard Per Attempt

    ————————————————-

    No wait, let me guess….you’re a Steelers fan, right?

    Let’s take a look at “Elite” Ben this season….

    8 TD’s

    7 INT’s

    26 sacks

    5 fumbles

    So why exactly does Flacco suck but Ben doesn’t? I didn’t even get into the fact that he hasn’t started all 16 games in a season since 2008.

  14. vincentbojackson says: Nov 1, 2013 4:10 PM

    The fact that the Browns are able to get under their skin speaks volumes on how far the Ravens have fallen in only a few short months.

    The Browns have never won anything and the Ravens are clinging desperately to last season as they watch this season go in the dumpster.

  15. howsmyrash says: Nov 1, 2013 4:12 PM

    mswravens –

    Doesn’t Roethlisberger have 2 rings to Flacco’s 1? I don’t really have a dog in this fight, but if you are going to try to defend your QB with one ring and then dog on the Steelers QB who has two you might need to pick a better argument… Not that I really care about the Ravens/Steelers rivalry. It’s boring.

    Oh, and Flacco is overrated. Enjoy that cap eating contract for the next 5 years.

  16. Deb says: Nov 1, 2013 4:13 PM

    Haden was just making a truthful observation about the difference between this year’s team and the Super Bowl champs of 2012. But when will players learn not to make any observation opponents can use as bulletin-board material? It doesn’t matter that he meant no disrespect. It only matters that the Ravens can use his comment to rev themselves up for the game. It’s called “competitive edge”–and teams should know better than to give one to the other side.

    The best thing to say about an opponent prior to a game … is nothing.

  17. loyalraven says: Nov 1, 2013 4:27 PM

    First of all, ur name is The Browns. What a crappy name. 2nd, ur uniforms are crap stained Brown. 3rd, ur team plays like crap. Are u starting to notice a pattern here? Ur team is literally poop in pads. U have the crappiest logo, the crappiest name, a crap owner, the crappiest uniforms, crappy players, a crappy front office who make crap shoot drag picks, a crappy coaching staff who calls crappy plays that don’t do crap, ur fans are the crappiest fans in the league. Cleveland even smells like crap.. Your team is LITERALLY a piece of crap. You’d be better off taking pride in a big ol wet pile of cow poop then the Cleveland Browns. Seriously, ur team is a stain on the NFL. A big brown stain. Do you remember that one time when Cleveland didn’t suck at EVERY SINGLE THING? Yeah, nobody does… That’s why LeBron left you. He was embarrassed of you and your culture of losing!

  18. savocabol1 says: Nov 1, 2013 4:35 PM

    Mountain out of a mole hill

  19. ravensterps says: Nov 1, 2013 4:50 PM

    Flacco – Super Bowl MVP.

  20. jmblosser82 says: Nov 1, 2013 6:13 PM

    First off wins and losses are a team stat. It’s possible for a QB to lose a game himself(O’Donald can speak for that)but he can not win by himself. Boldin or Jones most likely should’ve been MVP, but Flacco walked out with it. Ben could’ve been MVP in the Arizona SB but his bad press was still very fresh. Also Ben and his team had made 4 AFC title games, 3 SB in Ben’s in his first 7 years. So if people want to insist of giving wins to a QB the argument is not even close to who’s better.

  21. Deb says: Nov 1, 2013 7:47 PM

    @jmblosser82 …

    Ben’s “bad press” didn’t occur until after SBXLIII. He wasn’t named the MVP of that Super Bowl because of the mistakes he had in that game prior to the game-winning drive in the closing seconds. The real MVP of SBXLIII was James Harrison, who single-handedly accounted for a 14-point swing in the score after Roethlisberger threw an interception that had the Cardinals going in for a TD just prior to the half. By picking off Warner and running the pick back for a TD, he saved the game.

  22. jmblosser82 says: Nov 1, 2013 8:38 PM

    My mistake, got dates mixed up. I said Ben could’ve, not should’ve, been the MVP. I know he was mediocre the rest if the game but he was clutch on the clinching drive.

  23. Deb says: Nov 1, 2013 9:55 PM

    @jmblosser82 …

    Yes, he was. I barely survived that drive :)

  24. lovefootball4life says: Nov 2, 2013 7:55 AM

    “Boldin or Jones most likely should’ve been MVP, but Flacco walked out with it”

    jmb I just don’t understand why you can’t give credit for where it is due. In The SB he was 3td, 0 int, for almost 300 yards. He played well and theses stats don’t meausure game management. Each TD was a different receiver. Jones had one catch and one ST TD which all you guys say he shouldn’t have because of a missed penalty. Boldin had a little over 100 yards and a TD. The game got close because the defense allowed points in the second half. Flacco had an MVP game and coincidence you bring it up now because he just received his 2014 Corvette for being selected MVP.

    That was last year. This year his stats aren’t there but that’s not all on him like Ben’s stats are not all on him either.

  25. jesushatesthesteelers says: Nov 2, 2013 8:49 AM

    The only thing Ben did in his first Super Bowl was hand off to the bus and he had a 22.6 quarterback rating!

  26. ampatsisahypocrite says: Nov 2, 2013 2:52 PM

    Whine all you want, Ravens and fans, but Haden is only stating the obvious. What he’s really saying is that this is now Flacco’s team… and considering how Joe has always just tried to “blend in and just not screw up” that kind of leaves a leadership void.

    Nice job front office dumping all that money on Average Joe. No wonder you all think Oz is so awesome!

  27. ampatsisahypocrite says: Nov 3, 2013 10:04 PM

    Wow that Haden sure looks bad now for making those comments huh? Just goes to show you NEVER mess with the Ravens!

    P.S. Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!

  28. bostonbias says: Nov 7, 2013 2:25 AM

    The Ravens are who Dennis Green thought they were….

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