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Martin’s high school coach not surprised he was targeted

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While there’s plenty of chapter-and-verse to quote regarding the background of Dolphins guard and alleged bully Richie Incognito, less has been discussed about the qualities of Jonathan Martin, the bullied.

But Martin’s high school coach said that based on the player he coached, he’s not surprised another player zeroed in on Martin.

“Bullies usually go after people like him,” Harvard-Westlake School coach Vic Eumont told Andrew Abramson of the Palm Beach Post. “With his background, he’s a perfect target.”

After attending an upscale private high school, and then attending Stanford, there was a certain element Martin wasn’t exposed to along the way, and Eumont said that was going to be an adjustment.

“Before he wasn’t around Nebraska, LSU kind of guys,”Eumont said. “He’s always been around Stanford, Duke, Rice kind of players. . . .

“In locker rooms full of Nebraska, LSU, Southern Cal players, Miami players, they’ll look at this as a weakness. If he makes it through all this, and if he was encouraged to come back, he’d come back with a vengeance.”

Eumont described Martin as polite and popular among teammates and teachers, and that rather than lashing out at Incognito, he walked away.

“I can see where somebody that’s a bully will take advantage of him, and rather than him say anything would just hold it inside,” Eumont said of Martin. “I can see where if somebody was bullying him he would take that to heart, and be concerned and think it was his fault. . . .

“I think he’s a guy the Dolphins should work to get back in the fold. I think he can be an excellent player. He’s a great kid. He’s worth saving. If ever there’s a kid worth saving, he’s one of them.”

Eumont’s remarks point directly to the perception in some circles that Martin will be labeled as soft. But while Stanford is insulated academically, Martin was coached there by Jim Harbaugh, who isn’t exactly running a daisy farm.

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  1. tavisteelersfan says: Nov 5, 2013 2:01 PM

    Sounds like a good guy.

  2. Foghorn The IKonoclast says: Nov 5, 2013 2:03 PM

    Interesting article this time.

  3. theformtackle says: Nov 5, 2013 2:03 PM

    But that’s what you’re taught to do nowadays. You can get in as much if not more trouble for retaliating at a bully. We’ve created a society of victims instead of strong people who are allowed to take care of themselves.

  4. Kaz says: Nov 5, 2013 2:05 PM

    Bullies always know who to target. That’s why it’s always refreshing to see a target finally stand up and take on the Bully. Too bad Martin wasn’t that target to do so, no offense to him (more don’t than do), but many wish he would have. If he couldn’t do it with straight hands, then he could have at least taken that lunch tray upside his head (repeatedly). Nobody would have minded. Everyone likes to see a good Bully go down. Most of the time it’s well deserved.

  5. jmikeh73 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:05 PM

    This was obviously all a plan hatched by Harbaugh to convince the Dolphins to release the guy so he could bolster the 49ers O-Line. Genius at work, because nobody would ever believe it.

  6. farvite says: Nov 5, 2013 2:07 PM

    At least with a Stanford education he shouldn’t fail at life the way other football players do.

  7. gbpackersfan12 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:08 PM

    It’s a shame that the NFL locker room “tough guy” mentality is being used as an excuse by some of the Dolphin players and other players around the league. The thought that this kind of behavior is somehow acceptable and should be kept “in-house” is disgusting. Being tough is one thing, being a jerk nobody wants to be around is another.

  8. Shinnbone says: Nov 5, 2013 2:08 PM

    Martin sounds like that he is just what Richie Incognito is not…..a decent human being with class.

  9. dcviking says: Nov 5, 2013 2:09 PM

    Wow — I’m surprised that his coach actually called out guys from certain colleges.

  10. dalcow4 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:10 PM

    No man who is 6’5″ and 310 lbs should allow anyone to bully him. If you don’t know how to fight– learn.

    There’s only one way to stop an idiot like Incognito– the old fashioned way.

  11. wallskol86 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:10 PM

    This whole situation is beyond sad.

  12. heyguru1969 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:10 PM

    I’m guessing Nebraska and LSU alums are not going to be particularly thrilled with this coaches labeling. Oh well, if the poo fits….wear it.

  13. dannyreneau says: Nov 5, 2013 2:10 PM

    Being a tough football player has nothing to do with being verbally abusive or threatening. I wish people would learn to distinguish between the two and stop referring to Martin as a “soft” player.

  14. butterstone84 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:11 PM

    this just in:
    Martins kindergarten says she understands why people would target Martin.
    Media today is just crazy, they think they’re out there getting us the up-to-the-minuet stories and different perspectives when the average fan really just doesn’t care. Really, someone sought out his high school coach just to get that much more headway on this story.

  15. beardinals says: Nov 5, 2013 2:11 PM

    I’m fascinated to see if he goes back with the Dolphins or can even find a home somewhere else?

  16. dolphindubs says: Nov 5, 2013 2:11 PM

    No player in the NFL is soft. They are all tough as nails to be able to make it there. Anyone who can’t see that is an idiot.

    Hold your head high Martin. There are plenty of us that support you and your strength in dealing with this without resorting to violence.

  17. sammcdonald88 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:11 PM

    Martin sounds like a respectable guy, but I have no respect for Incognito

  18. dcviking says: Nov 5, 2013 2:11 PM

    But while Stanford is insulated academically, Martin was coached there by Jim Harbaugh, who isn’t exactly running a daisy farm.

    ——————————

    Really — comparing Richie and Harbaugh —- I realize that many people don’t like Harbaugh, but come on.

    Can someone get a count on how many Harbaugh said he was going to kill the guy’s family?

  19. radrntn says: Nov 5, 2013 2:11 PM

    not sure why, but makes me think of Kwame Harris

  20. thompsonway says: Nov 5, 2013 2:11 PM

    I have been around guys like Martin. Sometimes a little inverted, but worth taking under your wing. Guys like this, “genuine”, always make great friends.
    Why didn’t anyone notice, and stand up for the kid?
    Nutz…

  21. stoytashaan says: Nov 5, 2013 2:12 PM

    I’m sure it was a bit shocking for Martin to be thrust into a world with guys who barely got through “Green Eggs & Ham” during their college days, yet the NFL has never advertised the scholastic and emotional stability achievements of its players.

  22. geniusry says: Nov 5, 2013 2:12 PM

    A co-worker floated an idea that he might be gay which led to the harassment (it isn’t bullying when it happens to an adult.) I wonder if that is the case? If it is then the NFL has a whole lot more egg on their face and any player that harassed him needs to be banned for life.

  23. stafford825 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:13 PM

    “Before he wasn’t around Nebraska, LSU kind of guys,”Eumont said. “He’s always been around Stanford, Duke, Rice kind of players. . . .

    ….

    This is a pretty elitist way of looking at it. It’s almost like he’s saying that because Martin went to schools with privileged kids, he was immune to this sort of thing?

    Sorry, I don’t buy it. A-holes go to all schools, come from different backgrounds, different socio-economic classes, different intelligence levels, etc.

  24. jrmbadger says: Nov 5, 2013 2:13 PM

    “Martin was coached there by Jim Harbaugh, who isn’t exactly running a daisy farm”

    You’re right. It was Jim Harbaugh. He was running a w(h)inery.

  25. keepingitrealdumb says: Nov 5, 2013 2:14 PM

    “gentle folk” .. that is what martin is .. the kind of people you want living in your neighborhood and your community.

  26. j0esixpack says: Nov 5, 2013 2:16 PM

    Martin seems to be in the role of Private Santiago in this adaptation of “A Few Good Men”

    It’s unclear if Incognito is Lt. Kendrick or Col. Jessup (and if he’s not Jessup – who is?)

  27. dirtydrew says: Nov 5, 2013 2:16 PM

    No one should have to deal with racism and death threats at work.

  28. zoxitic says: Nov 5, 2013 2:16 PM

    I cant believe the video of Incognito in a bar acting crazy hasnt made headlines on PFT yet.

  29. ivanpavlov0000 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:17 PM

    Also, there’s a difference between hearing this kind of stuff from your opponents and hearing it day after day from your linemates on your own team. We’re halfway into the season, and the o-line should be a unified wolf pack – an attack against one is an attack against all.

    The 35 sacks the o-line has given up this season shows that the Dolphins coaching staff weren’t doing their job.

    It’s possible the Dolphins were hoping Incognito would push Martin to a violent outburst, in hopes of getting Martin to become more violent on the field. But the poor play of the o-line shows that whatever the Dolphins were attempting was a massive failure.

  30. helix828 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:17 PM

    Remember when Dez Bryant refused to carry Roy Williams’s pads? The whole world jumped on him.
    What do you think would have happened if Martin had went after Incognito?

  31. ivanpavlov0000 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:19 PM

    dalcow4 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:10 PM

    No man who is 6’5″ and 310 lbs should allow anyone to bully him. If you don’t know how to fight– learn.

    There’s only one way to stop an idiot like Incognito– the old fashioned way.
    ————————-
    The problem with that logic is that bullies are frequently the first ones to go running to the coach/teacher crying, “No fair he hit me.”

  32. joshm5683 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:19 PM

    Kaz – I agree! No one minds when a known big bully gets knocked around.

    As a Trojans fan I do kinda laugh at the schools he named off, USC being 1 of them………sort of the known football factories.

    Jonathan Martin sounds like a good guy and I hope he makes it back. Being bullied is no fun, no matter who you are and what you do for a living.

  33. coltzfan166 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:20 PM

    Well the word from all of Jim Harbaugh’s players is that they love the guy.

  34. djohnson11882 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:23 PM

    dalcow4 | Nov 5, 2013, 1:10 PM CST
    No man who is 6’5″ and 310 lbs should allow anyone to bully him. If you don’t know how to fight– learn.

    There’s only one way to stop an idiot like Incognito– the old fashioned way.
    ——————————————-
    You aren’t the first person I’ve heard say this, but people need to realize that this isn’t some pocket protector wearing accountant that is doing the bullying, it is another, or several other, very large, strong, men, so to say he is too big to get bullied is just ridiculous.

  35. gromgrimfist says: Nov 5, 2013 2:25 PM

    Put a skirt on the kid you can tell by him laughing he was just kidding it is called hazing I got a lot worse then that as a freshman in college and pledging

  36. 5ohhh says: Nov 5, 2013 2:26 PM

    Targeted because he’s smart, educated young man with a bright future perhaps even after football.

    Harassment usually stems from jealousy, sounds like it applies in this case.

  37. thegreatgabbert says: Nov 5, 2013 2:31 PM

    Point that’s being missed is that Martin doesn’t want to play football (and probably doesn’t have to), Incognito does. So it’s a situation where everyone loses.

    Whatever the reasons for the situation, you don’t cut the guy who wants to play and coddle the guy who doesn’t.

    Sorry.

  38. sarcasm says: Nov 5, 2013 2:31 PM

    Maybe I’m old school, but the only way to stop the Richie’s of the world immediately is to just punch him in the mouth. At that point it stops and he respects you for standing up for yourself.

    So to me it’s clear Richie is a jerk(being clean and polite), and Jonathan is soft as sherbert(again, being clean and polite).

  39. xpensivewinos says: Nov 5, 2013 2:35 PM

    So we’re 5+ years down the road into the Ireland era (actually, ERROR) and these are the types of stories that surround the Dolphins.

    This organization is doomed until the right person takes over.

    At the end of the day, this all rests at the feet of the owner. It’s his teflon employee, now it’s his mess……

  40. whodeybacker says: Nov 5, 2013 2:40 PM

    2 things come to mind and maybe I missed them. Why hasnt Harbaugh or Andrew Luck spoken up about this kid? Or DeCastro?

  41. theroc5156 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:41 PM

    Richard Sherman went to Stanford too.

  42. sophandros says: Nov 5, 2013 2:41 PM

    if a rookie stands up to a team captain and (as some have suggested) fight him, that rookie is labeled a prima donna at best or a bad locker room guy at worst. his best option is the actions he took.

    regarding the comments from posters about the alleged downfall of our society, I’ll ask you this: is it a bad thing that we as a society demand that we treat each other with respect and dignity?

    and finally, regarding Vic’s calling out of certain schools… he chose those schools carefully based on their relevance (Nebraska), reputation (all of them), and his personal experience with them (LSU).

  43. seachicken64 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:42 PM

    I think Richie is going to have a difficult post-football life. Seems as if he never learned to play well with others.

  44. harrisonhits2 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:43 PM

    theformtackle says:

    But that’s what you’re taught to do nowadays. You can get in as much if not more trouble for retaliating at a bully. We’ve created a society of victims instead of strong people who are allowed to take care of themselves.
    ______________________

    Agree totally. I was bullied a lot as a kid. I think it was in the 8th or 9th grade I’d finally had enough and one day when one of the bullies got on my bus to follow me home and beat me up, I got off the bus, turned around and hit him with years of built up rage giving him a huge black eye that got him laughed at at school for days.

    I think if I did that now I’d probably be arrested for assault. Kid never bothered me again though and sometimes our zero tolerance society needs to let people protect themselves. Other kids who’d bullied me also dropped their level of bullying as well.

    Not that I think that was the greatest solution but if other things fail and the crap keeps coming, protect yourself is all I can say.

  45. phin4life says: Nov 5, 2013 2:43 PM

    I never thought there’d be a time when I was tired of hearing Dolphin news. All the times in offseason that I begged for something to read seems silly now with so many articles and comments. This season and all the uncertainties can’t be over quick enough. Will we have a winning record, will we once again start over with new coaches and staff, what really happened with Martin and Ingotnito, will Sherman build on last week or go back to abandoning the run, can the secondary stay healthy, will FAs still come to Miami or will we go back to 2012, will we have a winning record? The great Lamar Miller run then fumble against the Bengals was a prime example of what it’s like to be a dedicated fan, moments of extreme happiness immediately followed by extreme disappointment. As a Phin fan Im used to the roller coaster of emotions, but this is getting out of hand. Seems I’m getting to the same conclusion year after year…maybe next year. Those first three games were the worst thing that could have happened, I had faith in the team, was proud to say I was a Dolphins fan, and I thought we were finally there after 20 + years. I was at the New Orleans game and the only thing worse than the Who Dat chants and being harassed after the game, was the realization that we were still the same dolphins of the last 20 years…hoping for next year. All the talent, the new regime, winning 3 tough games in a row, finally pride and hope and now we’re back in a very familiar place that we can’t seem to get out of. Oh how I miss the days of no news and…hope.

  46. bookofelisha10 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:44 PM

    and in tommorrows headlines

    the lunch room lady at his middle school gets interviewed about martin sat quietly

    followed directly by the kid who lent martin a pencil for the SATs in highschool details how politely martin said thank you.

  47. xpensivewinos says: Nov 5, 2013 2:45 PM

    Incognito is a mental case. His brain is obviously not wired right and he always seems to be part of the problem and not part of the solution wherever he’s been.

    This is not John Hannah or Gene Upshaw in their prime we’re talking about here. He’s just a guy and you will never win with a jag-off like Incognito on your team whose ridiculous behavior on and off the field far outweighs his skill level. He’s not that good. He’s only better than most of the crap offensive linemen the Dolphins have so that’s not saying much. He is nothing more than a cancer to any organization (his track record speaks for itself). Nebraska, the Rams, Bills and Dolphins are worse organizations when he’s a part of it. Leave it to Schmuck Ireland to have him on his team longer than anyone else.

    The Dolphins line played their best game of the year this past week with both Incognito and Martin out. And even if it was just a fluke, the Dolphins can have the worst offensive line with or without that idiot.

  48. costaki21 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:45 PM

    Incognito is lucky he didn’t try this with Aaron Hernandez

  49. justintuckrule says: Nov 5, 2013 2:47 PM

    This type of behavior is different than the schoolyard “bullying” or “guys being guys bullying” that we are accustom to.

    As an offensive lineman, Martin gets paid to stave off bullies! He willfully signed up to engage other men many of which, get ready for this, probably told him once or twice that they’re gonna “kill him”. Does nobody get that? You’re 6/5, 320 and paid to tangle with bullies. The guy “bullying” you was elected to the team’s leadership council and nobody on the team, coaches or otherwise, thought what Incognito did was that big a deal. Grow a pair already will ya!

  50. franklamar says: Nov 5, 2013 2:49 PM

    I think that was a pretty good article about why martin would let another man treat him in suck a way.But I still have a hard time when I look at martin being 6’5 330 and the other guy around the same size I could see if this was the kicker or punter but a big guy like that.Im not saying that the other is right for what he did but martin has to be the softest guy this side of the Mississippi I know we have to be politically correct but as a man martin is not passing the test….

  51. nirvana504 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:49 PM

    Geaux Tigers!

  52. xpensivewinos says: Nov 5, 2013 2:52 PM

    phin4life -

    These aren’t the same old Dolphins.

    This is a brand new stink never before seen. These the Stephen Ross Miami Dolphins. Take a nice deep whiff.

    The old Dolphins were fun to watch, sort of lovable in a “well, they’re still my team kinda way” even when they were lousy and Marino made it interesting even though a monkey throwing darts at a draft board for 20 years could have built a better defense during those years.

    This is a level of pathetic that is almost incomprehensible. Ross/Ireland/Philbin/Aponte have finally destroyed the team. It’s been years in the making, but these four a**holes finally did it. The only thing left from the “old days” when this team was on top was the logo…………..and these rat bastards changed that too.

  53. laphinfan says: Nov 5, 2013 2:57 PM

    Why are we treating a grown MAN as if he is 10 years old?

  54. orivar says: Nov 5, 2013 2:58 PM

    So what I’m getting from this is that he’s very sheltered. So now it all makes sense. No excuse for those messing with him but at the same time when you’re a sheltered individual, there is a time when you have to stand up for yourself and be a man. If not then people are going to mess with him for the rest of his life.

  55. barbeaux says: Nov 5, 2013 3:02 PM

    Has this coach personally been around or in the locker rooms of these implied low brow schools? No. He has not. Therefore, this is a stupid article. This wasn’t necessarily a group of low brow teammates ganging up on the rich kid (which seems opposite of what generally happens…it’s usually the other way around in our materialistic society, right?). It was a case of one stupid bigot targeting someone different than him. Simple as that.

  56. neilpountney says: Nov 5, 2013 3:04 PM

    I will be really interested to see if his parents pursue legal action on their sons behalf here.

  57. metintodd says: Nov 5, 2013 3:09 PM

    The Dolphins locker room sounds like my high school and almost every high school where the jocks go after and bully the smart kids and the band people. The jocks are treated like Gods in high school while the smart people are looked upon as nerds. The problem for the Dolphins is that this isn’t high school. These are supposed to be mature adults in a professional environment. Apparently, Incognito still has a lot of growing up to do. The locker room is no place for him right now. He belongs in some halfway house for people with mental issues.

  58. mylionsroaring says: Nov 5, 2013 3:17 PM

    And you guys thought Suh was a bad guy

  59. kindbass says: Nov 5, 2013 3:24 PM

    Definitely on Martin’s side here, but: there are a million things you can do before resorting to violence, but I’m not sure “doing nothing for a year-and-a-half until one day you quit your job” was the best way to deal with this.

  60. asimonetti88 says: Nov 5, 2013 3:26 PM

    Some of these comments make me wonder if the commenters have ever actually ventured into the real world.

  61. bigalhebdman says: Nov 5, 2013 3:28 PM

    Is this the next evolution to the Manti T’eo story?What I mean is that we will be bombarded constantly with story after story by multitudes of “experts” dissecting every element during the middle of the season. Hopefully, it works itself out.

  62. igotgamenj says: Nov 5, 2013 3:47 PM

    Sun Senttinel reports Dolphins players like Martin, but love Incognito
    Players voice more support for the veteran guard than the young tackle …Two sides to every story people.

  63. MostlyRight says: Nov 5, 2013 3:52 PM

    Why doesn’t anyone seem to realize he did not allow Richie to bully him. Most people seem to think standing up to him would mean fighting him physically. Martin was smarter than that. He in one week made the bully a household name…made him look like a fat, blubbering fool through the media, in the eyes of even those who never watch NFL football. He ruined the guy without ever having to lay a finger on him. From this week on, no one with a clue will associate their organization with Richie, and if Richie ever gets in any sort of trouble, he’ll instantly be seen as the guilty party.

  64. conormacleod says: Nov 5, 2013 3:52 PM

    sarcasm says:
    Nov 5, 2013 2:31 PM
    Maybe I’m old school, but the only way to stop the Richie’s of the world immediately is to just punch him in the mouth.
    ——————————————
    Maybe that’s what a few guys did to Aaron Hernandez. Stood up to the bully. Maybe your idea isn’t such a good idea when dealing with maniacs.

  65. conormacleod says: Nov 5, 2013 3:55 PM

    laphinfan says:
    Nov 5, 2013 2:57 PM
    Why are we treating a grown MAN as if he is 10 years old?
    ———————————-
    Grown men can’t be threatened with violence, or threatened with violence against their families? Grown men have never been victims of violence?

  66. slickwilliam says: Nov 5, 2013 3:58 PM

    He’s not soft, he’s the bigger man

  67. condor75 says: Nov 5, 2013 3:59 PM

    dalcow4 says:
    Nov 5, 2013 2:10 PM
    No man who is 6’5″ and 310 lbs should allow anyone to bully him. If you don’t know how to fight– learn.

    There’s only one way to stop an idiot like Incognito– the old fashioned way.
    He is fighting, but he is using his head, try it, you might be amazed

  68. trollhammer20 says: Nov 5, 2013 4:04 PM

    When loud and obnoxious meets quiet and reserved, loud and obnoxious usually gets the upper hand and wins out. At least, at first.

    Think of two neighbors in an apartment, one quiet, and one loud. The loud neighbor cannot possibly see anything wrong with their behavior – after all, it’s not bothering them, right? – and may refuse to even acknowledge a problem exists at all. In fact, it becomes the quiet person’s problem because they are the only one who seems to have a problem with it.

    Meanwhile, night after night, one of the neighbors is going sleepless, and their quality of life is suffering. And you know damn well it’s not the quiet one who keeps to himself.

  69. jjackwagon says: Nov 5, 2013 4:04 PM

    Okay so the takeaway is…Incognito is an A-hole that took his hazing of a rookie too far. No surprise.
    Martin is a silver spoon that couldn’t handle it and rather than lash out/get violent, he bolted for the door. Got it.

    Now that neither is currently “in the game”, I have no desire to hear any of the pyscho-babble. Can we get back to talking football any time in the near future? Or should we all have a collective PFT group hug and sing Kum-By-Ya first?

  70. blacktoothgrinn says: Nov 5, 2013 4:11 PM

    I’m gonna take a wild guess, none of you keyboard tough guys have tangled with a maniac like Incognito. While Martin is a big football player, that doesn’t mean he can fight. And what happens when he punches Incognito and then Pouncy jumps on Martin and they take turns curb stomping him? Or Incognito can take a punch and destroys Martin in front of everyone. Everyone seems to assume that Incognito will just wilt like a little flower, he’s a pretty big boy himself and seems to be a bit unstable and has probably taken a few too many shots to the head. We don’t know how much crap Martin took before he finally had to walk away, it wasn’t just once phone call and one lunch room incident, when all the facts come out I’m sure it will open some eyes.

  71. laphinfan says: Nov 5, 2013 4:24 PM

    So the bigger man slams his tray down and runs home. Doesn’t surprise me that someone from Harvard westlake high is acting like a kid

  72. overratedsteelerhater says: Nov 5, 2013 4:24 PM

    John all ready gave Jim Boldin,Jim owes Ravens so he’ll talk him into going to Ravens if Dolphins let him walk……

  73. fnf417 says: Nov 5, 2013 4:26 PM

    I think he did it to get outta Miami

  74. azwildcats96 says: Nov 5, 2013 4:37 PM

    When you’re a kid, the only way to deal with a bully and not get called a snitch is to kick his ass. However, in the real adult world, you can’t always resort to violence as you will often be the one that ends up getting blamed. Ask yourself this: Which is a better punishment A) Incognito getting his ass kicked by Martin or B) Incognito losing his job and, potentially, millions of dollars while being publicly shamed and humiliated? Martin handled things correctly.

  75. luckyarmpit says: Nov 5, 2013 4:42 PM

    While I applaud Martin for walking away from the situation, I have to say that if he beat Incognito senseless with a baseball bat, I’d applaud equally. I encourage taking the high road as much as I encourage watching a bully, who has probably spent most of his life bullying other people too – get what they deserve.

  76. laphinfan says: Nov 5, 2013 4:56 PM

    Martin would of been the bigger man if he went to the other leaders on the team. Instead he ran home to mom and dad

  77. sarcasm says: Nov 5, 2013 4:59 PM

    @conormacleod We are talking about a lockeroom not the streets.

    If he popped him in the mouth, he might have got his but whipped in the process, but he wouldn’t be taking that crap every day. If he stood up for himself, he would still have the respect of his teammates.

  78. souldogdave says: Nov 5, 2013 5:12 PM

    Well, I have to say I am amazed at a lot of these comments pointing the finger of fault at Martin. This one’s just too easy, but a significant number of morons responded with opinions denegrating Martin, calling him soft and insinuating he is gay. Some even question his mental stability. Because he didn’t punch a pro-bowler veteran . He took it for an abnormal amount of time, and the trigger was the lunchroom incident.Incognito left an indefensible trail of abuse. The league should kick him to the curb.

  79. blindzebras says: Nov 5, 2013 5:15 PM

    Who ordered the Code Red?

  80. laphinfan says: Nov 5, 2013 5:16 PM

    Richie=racist jerk. Martin=soft teammate

  81. tmkelley1 says: Nov 5, 2013 5:31 PM

    With a name like Incognito, I guess the guy had to do something to get past that, huh? At least in his own alleged mind.

    And, more to the point, the NFL should kick his butt out of the league. He’s earned it with the “Dirtiest Player in the NFL” designation.

  82. gammynomnom says: Nov 5, 2013 5:31 PM

    I understand exactly what coach is saying.

    I have a friend, strong , stout guy who is of such a nice nature prople pick on him. He could obliterate these people with one punch, but he won’t because its not his nature.

    Can’t count the times I have fought battles for him and I will always. People say he should stick up for himself. I say there are enough hotheads and fighters in the world like myself, so I hope he stays a kind, gentle person forever. I got his back.

    Someone should have had martins.

  83. crapdrawers says: Nov 5, 2013 5:39 PM

    to clowns saying Martin should “stand up” to the bully. He did. He documented Incognito’s harassment, it was reported that he spoke to management about it. They obviously did nothing. He got a lawyer and took care of sh!t on his own. Punching Incognito would have been tougher? No, resorting to violence is easy, stupid and pointless. Richie is going to lose millions of dollars and likely never play again. That’s not standing up to a bully and “taking him down”? This time next year Martin will be on a better team than the dolphins, Icognito will be checking ID’s at the door of his local strip club.

  84. donnymacjack says: Nov 5, 2013 5:54 PM

    Richie Incognito has been a mental midget at least since his days on the Rams. You could alsways count on him making one or more stupid personal foul type penalties from either dirty play or retaliation.

    That said, this whole case is really sad. Making a rookie carry your pads and sign his college fight song is one thing. Continually picking on him day-to-day is something else altogether, and it points to a mental deficiency in the bully.

  85. pugsley927 says: Nov 5, 2013 6:00 PM

    This coach is a D-bag….why is he calling out Nebraska, USC, and LSU players ?

    Incognito is a fool and i hope his career is over, but Martin’s got to man up a little bit here and fend for himself.

    While it isn’t fair, dude is going to have a tough time in any locker room right now.

  86. laphinfan says: Nov 5, 2013 6:05 PM

    Martin is SOFT making the whole team suffer cause of one jerk

  87. officialgame says: Nov 5, 2013 6:08 PM

    The only thing Icognito here are the roids disguised as vitamins in Richie’s locker.

  88. dalcow4 says: Nov 5, 2013 6:17 PM

    I’m gonna take a wild guess, none of you keyboard tough guys have tangled with a maniac like Incognito. While Martin is a big football player, that doesn’t mean he can fight. And what happens when he punches Incognito and then Pouncy jumps on Martin and they take turns curb stomping him? Or Incognito can take a punch and destroys Martin in front of everyone. Everyone seems to assume that Incognito will just wilt like a little flower, he’s a pretty big boy himself and seems to be a bit unstable and has probably taken a few too many shots to the head. We don’t know how much crap Martin took before he finally had to walk away, it wasn’t just once phone call and one lunch room incident, when all the facts come out I’m sure it will open some eyes.

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    If Martin wasn’t confident in his abilities and this has been going on since day one– he should have quietly learned how to fight while complaining to his coaches and informing them of Incognito’s actions. He’s had a year and half to deal with this and he’s plenty big enough and talented enough physically to defend himself.

  89. footballfanatic666 says: Nov 5, 2013 6:17 PM

    This is all non sense… an adult can’t be bullied… he can be assaulted but he can’t be bullied… only a child not knowing what to do can be bullied… if he was so offended and felt so threatened then why did he do nothing back in March when the incident occurred… clearly he wasn’t… this is going to end up with attorney’s trying to make money over a non issue that happens everyday in profession atheletes locker room… it is an opportunity for political correctness nuts to take bully one step too far…

  90. jsm08 says: Nov 5, 2013 6:55 PM

    He’s a grown man. He wasn’t bullied. He was harassed at his workplace.

    Kids get bullied.

    Why do you media type latch onto that label the first chance you get?

    Surprised the president hasn’t chimed in and/or called martin personally yet.

  91. tonyc920 says: Nov 5, 2013 7:15 PM

    @footballfanatic666

    WOW ! You’re a piece of work. Adults can’t be bullied ?? They can and it most likely happens way more often than people think because the victim is too embarrassed to reveal it. Martin did show he was threatened in March, he didn’t show up for OTA’s after the text from Incognito, but the coaching staff never asked why he missed. Joe Philbin is a great man. but he and his staff are on the hot seat over this and may not survive with jobs when all the facts are revealed. Someone knew what was going on and they are trying to cover up. Mark my words. And Incognito needs a shrink.

  92. stoicpaisano says: Nov 6, 2013 12:24 AM

    I read these stories and all I can think about is Randy Wagstaff’s money being stolen…he decides to throw hands at one of the dudes and gets mushed out as a result.

    With the way the dolphins players are talking about their relationship with incognito, Martin very well could’ve been physically facing off against multiple goons at once.

  93. dcgonzfr says: Nov 6, 2013 2:19 AM

    Coach Eumont! Wow really! Do you teach your other players to stand up & fight like most low lifes would do. It takes more courage to walk away. As far as the college comparisons, weak Sir! Yeah most Stanford players think college first, but does that mean they are soft. You are clueless like the rest of them. You’re basically giving the turd Incognito a pass. Mr. Eumont, I think Martin did stand up for himself but more in cerebral way and one that will be more effective in the long run. Martin will surely suffer for handling this situation in this manner but I think he will do fine without football. Now, the affect on Mr. Incognito, that will different. He’ll be fighting for his football career, the only career he knows. This will change the NFL forever. This type of behavior will hopefully disappear from all locker rooms. Incognito now becomes the poster child for “bullying”.

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