Skip to content

Poll of players suggests most wouldn’t want Incognito as a teammate

Richie Incognito AP

Several players on the Dolphins have spoken out in support of their suspended teammate Richie Incognito, but around the league he is not viewed favorably.

An ESPN poll of players suggests that the majority would prefer not to play for Incognito: ESPN asked 72 players (three per team on 24 teams) whom they would rather have as a teammate, Incognito or Jonathan Martin. Only 15 said Incognito, while 34 said Martin and 23 said they wouldn’t want either one of them as a teammate.

Most of the players asked said they had never been hazed in the NFL, and that they had never provided money as a result of being hazed. However, 28 of the 72 players surveyed said they had spent their own money because of pressure from teammates, with amounts ranging from $40 to bring donuts to a team meeting to thousands of dollars for expensive dinners. The most any player said he had been required to spend by teammates was $18,000.

The lack of support for Incognito (who in other surveys of NFL players has been voted one of the dirtiest players in the league) suggests that there are a lot of locker rooms where he wouldn’t be welcome. If the reports that the Dolphins have already decided to move on from Incognito are true, this poll could be bad news for Incognito’s chances of catching on elsewhere.

But the lack of support for Martin also suggests that part of the culture of the NFL is that players are supposed to keep these things in house, and not make waves.

Permalink 44 Comments Feed for comments Latest Stories in: Miami Dolphins, Rumor Mill, Top Stories
44 Responses to “Poll of players suggests most wouldn’t want Incognito as a teammate”
  1. larryboodry says: Nov 8, 2013 3:56 PM

    None of the above.

  2. jgater1981 says: Nov 8, 2013 3:57 PM

    Would prefer not to play “for” Incognito? Yeah, that sounds like a terrible work environment if he’s your boss. Now, what about “with” Incognito?

  3. cuda1234 says: Nov 8, 2013 4:03 PM

    He’s the kind of guy everyone wants to play with but no one wants to play against. (Think Bill Romanowski) Maybe that’s why the guys in his lockerroom love him and guys in other lockerrooms don’t.

  4. sg419 says: Nov 8, 2013 4:05 PM

    God forbid we should ever question a poll. Unless of course it comes from Fox News or is a daily approval rating of the President. Then it must be investigated or ignored or both.

  5. dieselguy19 says: Nov 8, 2013 4:07 PM

    First of all who cares? Secondly i’m a die hard Dolphin fan and watch 95% of their games. This guy was a very very bad man back in the day with the Rams. Like most of us when we were young, we were immature. He attended counseling and several classes and he’s a much different person now. Enough that he was elected to the Dolphins leadership team and is highly respected by everyone on and off the team. I haven’t seen him do anything “dirty” in a long long time. He’s paying the price here reputation when he was younger. Don’t really think that is fair myself. He is the scape goat…..plain and simple.

  6. bengalskuta82 says: Nov 8, 2013 4:10 PM

    Duh! Who would want him?
    Even the Dolphins players don’t want him. They are just not being completely honest.

  7. lightcleric says: Nov 8, 2013 4:11 PM

    The NFL 100 is also a poll of a small sample of players.

    Yeah, not really putting much stock in this…

  8. waldoampere says: Nov 8, 2013 4:12 PM

    At some point, NFL players, former players, and front office personnel are going to have to realize that just because they’re athletically gifted doesn’t mean that they get to live outside the law. I’m tired of hearing former players who are now commentators say that “Most people would be appalled as to what goes on inside the locker room.” Perhaps it’s time to start acting like adults.

  9. mykpfsu says: Nov 8, 2013 4:15 PM

    “But the lack of support for Martin also suggests that part of the culture of the NFL is that players are supposed to keep these things in house, and not make waves.”

    Or that they know Martin is full of it and is as soft as advertised.

  10. cjnunes426 says: Nov 8, 2013 4:17 PM

    So players from incognitos team love him…. But players on opposing teams don’t because of his style of play….

    Hmm…. Would I expect a poll of nfl players, most of which aren’t his teammate, to want him on their team?

    Interesting. Hmm

  11. racistredskins says: Nov 8, 2013 4:18 PM

    The NFL is a prison culture with many of the same inmates.

  12. universalseeder305 says: Nov 8, 2013 4:19 PM

    You gotta go with the guy who won’t quit on you in the middle of the season. Don’t you?!?

  13. jaydm84 says: Nov 8, 2013 4:20 PM

    Surveys are a terrible form of evidence and are far reaching when trying to describe an entire population. We’re offensive or defensive players surveyed, what was the average age of the players, did you exclude rookies? Also, were the parameters of hazing defined? I think a lot of people may view hazing differently. Is buying donuts hazing or is paying for Vegas hazing, or shaving your head or dying your hair? Stupid survey.

  14. chiadam says: Nov 8, 2013 4:22 PM

    When in doubt, pick C.

  15. dirtysoufsavage says: Nov 8, 2013 4:24 PM

    I’m going to dismiss this as Murtha’s article was dismissed yesterday for lack of the surveyed having first hand knowledge. Survey their actual teammates, then we’ll talk.

  16. racistredskins says: Nov 8, 2013 4:27 PM

    The Dolphins locker room quit on Martin.

  17. nucredit says: Nov 8, 2013 4:27 PM

    Is this really what NFP and other media outlets are paying their “reporters” to do?

    I have no idea how this is going to play out but check out all of the sports media headlines about the Incognito/Martin debacle.

    The sports media (Mr. Smith in this article included) are circling the wagons to cover their own a**es.

    They have to go so far as to do a stupid frickin’ survey (really?) like this to keep the narrative going that 1) Incognito is a mysoginistic, neanderthal tyrant and 2) Martin is a terrified bully-victim.

    This trick is getting OLD fellas.

    Why doesn’t somebody do some real reporting instead of trying to fit their story into their own prejudiced (as in -they’ve already prejudged and decided what the story outcome will be) narrative.

  18. pjrhc says: Nov 8, 2013 4:33 PM

    When you publish this kind of info with this kind of headline, and NO conclusive evidence from the investigation that just started that you are NOT doing – are you not bullying Incognito, and pronouncing him guilty already?

  19. phinatic29 says: Nov 8, 2013 4:48 PM

    why wouldn’t you want to be Incognito’s teammate?
    fork out $15K and let him be the caboose of the train on your sister and I am sure everything will be cool.

    sounds reasonable.

  20. dontcensormebro says: Nov 8, 2013 4:57 PM

    “O’Doyle rules”

  21. granadafan says: Nov 8, 2013 5:00 PM

    Players are “supportive” of Incognito because they don’t like outsiders butting in on the locker room dynamics and the threat of consequences over their actions against Martin and other rookies. Incognito is not the only guilty party here. Other vets are sweating it out.

  22. solsunsevivary says: Nov 8, 2013 5:01 PM

    So how many people in the world , are forgetting that Martin is not a rookie ??? He was drafted in 2012 same year as Luck !!! And football is a job just like the ones we all work to survive . If I have a problem with someone at work , I just dont react with violence , that would be foolish … Just because Martin is a Big guy doesn’t mean he is a tuff guy who wants to fight … Big Richie is a savage on the field, who would want to fight him mano y mano !!! not Martin …

  23. doggeatdogg says: Nov 8, 2013 5:21 PM

    At this point, both players would be deemed toxic in any locker room if weighing in the information as known today. We know what Incognito is. He can sink your locker room.

    Martin on the other hand is your modern day whistle blower. I don’t believe in retaliation and some changes are clearly needed. Assuming he gets back, any information discussed amongst the players will potentially land with his lawyer parents who will spin it to their son’s interest.

    If you have any doubts about that, read the headlines where Martin is spilling his guts about what has been said to him. The derogatory comments will stop, but rest assure, his team mates won’t talk to him about anything except the weather, a rudimentary hello and good bye, and for that they might ask him if he is wearing a wire.

    As far as the players are concerned, he would be the eyes and ears for the NFL regarding their subculture where compliance is non existent but needed to bring the team together. Hopefully this subculture will get some cleansing but in the end, he is no longer one of them.

  24. newjerseygiants says: Nov 8, 2013 5:25 PM

    I wouldn’t mind having Incognito as a buddy walking through the streets of Newark NJ from my car to the Devils game however.

  25. 1rockyracoon says: Nov 8, 2013 5:38 PM

    The fact that rookies are pressured to spend thousands of dollars because veterans make them is obscene. Just because its “tradition” and “that’s the way it’s always been” doesn’t make it right. The league and teams have symposiums for rookies so they can be careful with their money and then the league and teams turn a blind eye to young players paying for things they would rather not pay for. The NFL needs to get rid of the knuckle dragging traditions that demean younger players.

  26. scmems07 says: Nov 8, 2013 5:42 PM

    martin has singlehandedly managed to ruin the dolphins season with this instead of just confronting the situation, not physically but standing up for himself. i fully believe this was a situation where it was not just martin getting picked on, it was an ongoing thing in the locker room for fun so nobody thought anything of it, but martin had a problem and went and told the media (basically). i believe if he had a problem and came out with it in front of the team in a meeting with the the coaches there it would be fixed and done. unfortunatly this did not happen. add the dolphins to the spygate, bountygate and buttfumble conversations.

  27. bsizemore68 says: Nov 8, 2013 5:45 PM

    How about listing the teams and who said what, and there position they play, then when Richie ends up on there team he will deal with them. Bill p.s. this poll is no more then a rumor, or the usually from a source, name names or shut up fool.

  28. jrs45 says: Nov 8, 2013 5:46 PM

    Steelers would take him with open arms!

  29. harrisonhits2 says: Nov 8, 2013 6:15 PM

    cuda1234 says:

    He’s the kind of guy everyone wants to play with but no one wants to play against. (Think Bill Romanowski)
    ________________

    Yeah, use a mega steroid using dirty playing scumbag as an example.

    Like Romanowski, Incognito is one of the dirtiest players out there. People don’t want to play against him because he intentionally tries to injure people, not because he’s a really good player.

  30. harrisonhits2 says: Nov 8, 2013 6:17 PM

    scmems07 says:

    martin has singlehandedly managed to ruin the dolphins season with this instead of just confronting the situation
    ________________________

    The Dolphins sucked before the bullying accusations blew up.

    And if that’s all it takes to “ruin a season” that’s laughable and a sign of a poorly coached and managed team.

    Which given the players have been ignoring coaching orders not to discuss the incident there’s another indication of a poorly coached team.

  31. officialgame says: Nov 8, 2013 6:26 PM

    Most normal teams prefer not to have a psychopath in their locker room.

  32. zeke2517 says: Nov 8, 2013 6:35 PM

    Arm tattoos are trashy.

  33. FinFan68 says: Nov 8, 2013 6:44 PM

    Horrible sampling. I would bet that an anonymous poll (one where they can’t be singled out for scrutiny in the future) might show different results.

  34. FinFan68 says: Nov 8, 2013 7:44 PM

    solsunsevivary says:
    Nov 8, 2013 5:01 PM
    And football is a job just like the ones we all work to survive . If I have a problem with someone at work , I just dont react with violence , that would be foolish … Just because Martin is a Big guy doesn’t mean he is a tuff guy who wants to fight …
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Fair enough. The question isn’t if you would react with violence; the question is would you say something to that person or your boss–or would you just leave (I would say quit but that implies letting your employer know) and start a calculated series of actions (including releasing half-truths to the press) to set up a law-suit? That is what Martin did. He never said a word to anybody associated with the team until AFTER he left. Actually he still hasn’t said anything to anybody of authority on the team, his “people” have. Martin himself has sent text messages to teammates saying he doesn’t have a problem with anybody.

  35. FinFan68 says: Nov 8, 2013 7:48 PM

    Why hasn’t a single reporter tried to ask Martin a question? They followed Incognito to an appointment and at least got an amicable “no comment” as he was leaving but it does not even seem like anybody has TRIED to talk to Martin at all.

  36. steves11 says: Nov 8, 2013 7:59 PM

    While not downplaying the seriousness of rookie hazing, you have to look at it in the proper perspective. To these guys, having just received a huge rookie contract with signing bonuses, workout bonuses, bonuses for taking a crap, etc…..even $18,000 is like $180 for most of the rest of us. In other words, I don’t think any of these rookies were forced to pay money that they couldn’t afford.

  37. annes22 says: Nov 8, 2013 8:07 PM

    Martin is hiding out, he’s a “baby”. Oh sorry no he’s in the office of his attorney look for him there. He isn’t going to speak because he might put his foot in his mouth.

  38. rodge1 says: Nov 8, 2013 8:11 PM

    @FinFan68

    Martin is lawyered-up, he won’t be saying a word to anyone but his lawyer & lawyer-parents.

  39. FinFan68 says: Nov 8, 2013 8:59 PM

    rodge1 says:
    Nov 8, 2013 8:11 PM
    @FinFan68

    Martin is lawyered-up, he won’t be saying a word to anyone but his lawyer & lawyer-parents.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I realize that but he hired the lawyer yesterday (at least that was what the report said)

    Aren’t most people who “lawyer up” charged with some sort of crime. Martin is the accuser here. Using surrogates and the lawyers to gradually leak portions of his complaints gives the impression that there may be something out there that he may be culpable for.

    I am not saying he needs to subject himself to a lengthy public interrogation but there are a couple questions that he ought to answer–the main one being: Who did he bring these problems up to when they happened? (If he never brought it up to anybody, why the need for all this drama?

  40. ratsfoiledagain says: Nov 8, 2013 9:05 PM

    steves11 says:
    Nov 8, 2013 7:59 PM
    While not downplaying the seriousness of rookie hazing, you have to look at it in the proper perspective. To these guys, having just received a huge rookie contract with signing bonuses, workout bonuses, bonuses for taking a crap, etc…..even $18,000 is like $180 for most of the rest of us. In other words, I don’t think any of these rookies were forced to pay money that they couldn’t afford.
    ***********
    From the article above:

    “However, 28 of the 72 players surveyed said they had spent their own money because of pressure from teammates.”

    “The most any player said he had been required to spend by teammates was $18,000.”
    ————————–
    W0rds like ‘pressure’ and ‘required’ may not be the same as forced, as you stated. However; if you want to be in good standing, and have the other players welcome you as part of the team, you better shell out the cash.

    It’s unfortunate that these ‘vets’ are looking for a free ride. Especially those vets that were drafted in the later rounds because they didn’t make as much.

  41. loumannheim says: Nov 8, 2013 9:07 PM

    Martin will be playing for the Colts next year.

  42. dt58 says: Nov 8, 2013 9:22 PM

    I wonder what the results would be if they polled the players on how many of them would want Martin in their locker room right now. I would think that he’d be as good for team chemistry as T.O. just with less talent

  43. scmems07 says: Nov 8, 2013 9:52 PM

    Harrisonhits2
    “The Dolphins sucked before the bullying accusations blew up”

    Wins against the division leading Colts and Bengals and still in the playoff hunt with the worst o line in history. Your smart, good job guy.

  44. stratus5ss says: Nov 8, 2013 10:30 PM

    This mess stinks of a lack of control by the Dolphin’s organization. Dolphin fans and football fans everywhere deserve better than this. This team needs to get their house in order fast. This nonsense needs to stop in Miami and the whole NFL for that matter. There are no excuses for a team this out of control. If current management can’t handle the responsibility, they need to find people that can.

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to leave a comment. Not a member? Register now!