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Lions take issue with Marshall’s comments about Detroit

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Bears receiver Brandon Marshall had some strong comments about the Lions and the city of Detroit.  Predictably, multiple Lions had some strong comments about Marshall.

“If you want to go after somebody, we standing right here,” guard Rob Sims said, via Michael Rothstein of ESPN.com.  “We ain’t running from nobody.  The city and what it’s going through, there’s no reason to attack that.  That’s a different situation.  A lot of people are hurting off that, so there’s no reason for him to come at that.”

Center Dominic Raiola laughed it off.

“I think the writing’s on the wall right there,” Raiola said.  “So who’s the big brother, who’s the little brother?  It’s .500 [since Marshall joined the Bears], it’s 50-50.”

Running back Reggie Bush, who played with Marshall in Miami and considers him a friend, was pragmatic.

“You know what’s funny is that I have a little brother and growing up, I was always like the older brother, pushing him around a little bit, and now he’s 6-foot-7,” Bush said.  “There’s no more pushing him around anymore.  He can hang with me.  At some point in time, the little brother always grows up and ends up being the bigger brother.”

For now, the Lions are indeed the bigger brother.  And the Bears won’t get another crack at their little/big brother until the postseason — if that soon.

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78 Responses to “Lions take issue with Marshall’s comments about Detroit”
  1. ravenswhat says: Nov 12, 2013 9:52 PM

    They will implode like always. Wait for it.

  2. thestrategyexpert says: Nov 12, 2013 9:52 PM

    The PFT Power Rankings had enough dialogue that I thought the discussion was over about what is what.

  3. vikescry1 says: Nov 12, 2013 9:58 PM

    lions maybe in first place but they aren’t the best team in the nfc north when all teams are healthy. i mean even if they win the division and make the playoff’s, would they be able to beat a healthy packers team led by rodgers?? i don’t believe so, until they do people are gonna say yeah but you didn’t beat out a healthy packers team. imo i only use the packers because they have been dominating the division the last few years.

  4. daaabears says: Nov 12, 2013 10:00 PM

    Look Brandon…I’m really glad you have got you stuff together, but it does not make you an authority on every damn thing. How ’bout some humble, and a lot less talk?

  5. staffordsbigoljohnson says: Nov 12, 2013 10:07 PM

    Brandon Marshall is a solid player, and a solid team mate. However, in this case, take a shot at an struggling American society is tasteless. Especially because he’s just butt hurt he lost.

  6. warhammer420 says: Nov 12, 2013 10:17 PM

    Sore loser.

  7. handsofsteelhartofstone says: Nov 12, 2013 10:19 PM

    This guy has talent. There’s no doubting it, but eventually he will expose himself to the organization and the city of Chicago as the cancer that he is.

  8. whitecastleisafoodgroup says: Nov 12, 2013 10:21 PM

    As a Bears fan that was a worthless comment from Marshall. Lions swept us. No excuses. Move on. Shut up and focus on the one NFC spot left as a wildcard.

  9. jbeagles23 says: Nov 12, 2013 10:21 PM

    No way bears make the post season

  10. lks311 says: Nov 12, 2013 10:32 PM

    Picking on Detroit is too easy—and actually not very clever, because it’s so easy. I thought Marshall had more class—obviously not.

  11. liontuss says: Nov 12, 2013 10:41 PM

    Preach on, Reggie.

    11-5 NFC North Champions.

    Go Lions!

  12. dlions18 says: Nov 12, 2013 10:46 PM

    Brandon, nobody likes a sore loser
    -Mrs. Marshall

  13. lionsdraftguy says: Nov 12, 2013 10:46 PM

    Classless. Perfect fit for the Bears.

  14. beachsidejames says: Nov 12, 2013 10:53 PM

    Marshall has always had something to say about someone else’s buissiness. Quite easy to get away with when you have that multible personality disorder he claims to have. The only time he didn’t have much to say was when the police wanted to talk with him after that wife beat down when he got stabbed over it. Other than that he’s a real chatter-box.

  15. beachsidejames says: Nov 12, 2013 10:55 PM

    Thats ok though as long it wasn’t in a text message.

  16. eaglesnoles05 says: Nov 12, 2013 10:59 PM

    Marshall acting just like the big brother after the little brother beats him down- irrelavent putdowns and low blows to the public, then maybe some feeling sorry and mad in a room alone later on the top bunk…

  17. mydogsnameisvick says: Nov 12, 2013 11:14 PM

    Let’s talk records since Raiola joined the Lions, that’s the truly fun one to talk about.

    Everybody knows they’ll lose in the playoffs thanks to some dumb personal foul penalty that changes the game.

  18. eightandeightlions says: Nov 12, 2013 11:14 PM

    How can Detroit be the little brother to Chicago after accompishing so much NFL history? I mean, we made the playoffs a couple years back, didn’t we? And this season is already over isn’t it? How did we do?

    More like the family cat.

  19. ambitoos says: Nov 12, 2013 11:21 PM

    Can’t we all just get along?

  20. matthewmegabush says: Nov 12, 2013 11:24 PM

    I truly hope the Lions organization remembers this the rest of the year. I hope it’s used as motivation not only for the team to have continued success, but helps the people of Detroit enjoy some sunlight on otherwise very gloomy days. I truly love my team even though I’m not from Michigan, I have been a loyal fan for 26 years. I’m not asking that we win the Super Bowl this year, (though that would be awesome). I would really just like to see them get there. God bless the Lions. The Roar has been restored to the Pride.

  21. donnymacjack says: Nov 12, 2013 11:24 PM

    Marshall’s comments are just part of the on-going head games played between players and teams in this league. They mean very little and mean even less about Marshall the person.

    After watching his interview comment on the Miami situation (NFL network last week) I went from really disliking him to really liking the guy and having a bunch of respect for him as a person.

  22. shoobiedoobin says: Nov 12, 2013 11:39 PM

    The mistakes of the few are hurting the many. People’s lives are suffering badly and all this multimillionaire can do is insult it, like the Lions players have anything to do with the city’s situation.

    I’ve seen some areas in Chicago that aren’t exactly gems either, Brandon. Lose with some brains you fool. This is obviously just ignorant emotion-he didn’t do it after they beat Detroit.

    Then again that hasn’t happened in almost 12 months.

  23. khmer379 says: Nov 12, 2013 11:43 PM

    Sore loser = Brandon Marshall

  24. norcalmafia says: Nov 12, 2013 11:53 PM

    Hmm I know the feeling as far as a city and a franchise Seattle has always been Friscos little brother…Just a small market team from a small tv market in the corner of the country who no one could care less about..Theres marquee franchises then second rate ones..I dont need to name them off for you anyone with a brain knows who they are..Seattle woukd have to go on one of the craziest runs in NFL history to be considered relevent..Theres just some cities that will never be taken seriously in sports..Allthough the Lions are a historic franchise unlike Seattle who is just and has always been irrelevent same as their city..

  25. dino2997 says: Nov 13, 2013 12:21 AM

    The Lions will always be the Lions and everyone knows that isn’t a compliment. If you want to be known for more than that then go out on to the field and prove it.

  26. dino2997 says: Nov 13, 2013 12:22 AM

    If QB injuries hadn’t derailed the season for the Packers and Bears the Lions would be irrelevant. Just like two years ago when the Lions made it into the playoffs it was only because Cutler was lost for the season.

  27. 25robrown says: Nov 13, 2013 12:52 AM

    Not a Bear fan nor a Lion fan. But I have to say this. You got beat Marshall. Whining about it like you are makes you seem butt hurt. Quit talking.

  28. zeeman911 says: Nov 13, 2013 12:54 AM

    That’s about the class level I would expect from Titus youngs big brother….

  29. dwntwnbadboy19 says: Nov 13, 2013 1:05 AM

    Good to see the rivalry back! My buddy a die hard lion fan and would love to see them play Chicago in playoffs. Too bad Bears not making playoffs though. I am sure Lions would make short work of them anyway. AGAIN

  30. ziggystheansah says: Nov 13, 2013 1:13 AM

    Stay classy Marshall… Oh who am I kidding? I’m expecting class from a guy who beats women?
    Calvin johnson (AKA the best Wide Receiver ever) is a perfect example of class.

    U should’ve taken notes from Dez: do not anger the lions. If we do meet in the playoffs expect Calvin to get 500 yards receiving. Clown.

  31. jamezz23 says: Nov 13, 2013 1:25 AM

    If it wasn’t for football Brandon Marshall would be a bum somewhere, he hasn’t proven otherwise

  32. dontcensormebro says: Nov 13, 2013 3:04 AM

    As a Bears fan, I’m kinda happy to see Detroit step up as a hated rival. Used to be I’d check the schedule for the upcoming season and just peg those games as wins for Chicago. Certainly more interesting now and a post-season run in with the Lions would be one for the ages!

  33. theneedforspeeed says: Nov 13, 2013 3:27 AM

    Detroit may be broke, but they own the Chicago Bears!

  34. nathanbetz91 says: Nov 13, 2013 4:04 AM

    What is Reggie bush talking about? Does that make sense to anyone?

  35. GenXJay says: Nov 13, 2013 4:15 AM

    & cheese bay is like the cousin that plays with dolls.

  36. maddbearfan says: Nov 13, 2013 4:28 AM

    That’s right..long ways to the playoffs yet, lot of football to be played yet.

  37. cobaltdriver says: Nov 13, 2013 5:46 AM

    If the Lions r the little bro, the Packers are the ornery uncle and the Vikes are the little skanky girl on the corner..I like that

  38. rockbottom37 says: Nov 13, 2013 6:20 AM

    Bears and their organization is classless …I hope we do see them in the playoffs so we can pound them and their inspector gadget looking coach again

  39. dw2084 says: Nov 13, 2013 6:50 AM

    Are we bringing history into this now? I don’t think Brandon Marshall wants to talk about what happened in the past. His is pretty checkered.

    I hope we get a home game in the playoffs with them. That would be great.

  40. bluepike says: Nov 13, 2013 6:58 AM

    Worse than his remarks about the citizens of Detroit and their plight is that the people who were present when he uttered these stupid words all laughed at his remarks and then applauded. Chicago, the murder capitol of the U. S., should be ashamed of itself. Also, I don’t think Marshall would want his personal life dragged into the spotlight on a repeated basis. Trash talking the other team is one thing – what he did reveals just how ignorant and small of a person he is.

  41. cruzer1996 says: Nov 13, 2013 7:11 AM

    See ya next year, Bears!

  42. doubleentandre says: Nov 13, 2013 7:28 AM

    First off, the whole Big Brother-Little Brother thing has been played out. Especially in this state. Secondly, Marshall is not the first idiot to bring up Detroit’s financial situation. What does that accomplish? Do they think that it will make the players feel bad that the “leaders” in Detroit the last 20 or so years ran it into the ground? I went to the Lions game @ Cleveland this year and once the game was put away some fans chanted “Detroit’s Bankrupt”.

    Just don’t get it.

  43. dabeardown says: Nov 13, 2013 7:32 AM

    If anyone actually listened to the audio you would know this was a lead in question from Tom Waddle on a local radio show. Waddle led him right into this comment and Marshall was just playing to the crowd (as it was a live show at a bar). It looks a lot worse on paper than it sounds in the actual audio. Taken way out of context here.

  44. spacincasen says: Nov 13, 2013 7:52 AM

    The Lions do not “own” the Bears. Going into the season, the Bears had beat the Lions 9 out of the last 10 games. 13 of the last 16. THAT’S owning a team. Squeaking by on two single-digit wins is not owning anything. Sure, you guys did look like the better team out there, but that’s not saying much considering how decimated the Bears roster is.

    Congrats on the sweep but the Lions are still over 20 years away from their last playoff victory. In this age of football parity, it’s amazing how consistently bad that franchise has been. As a Bear fan, I’m actually happy to see them relevant for once, but I can’t believe the hubris being displayed by their fans just because they are over .500 at the mid-point of the season for once.

    And quit getting all butthurt over something said in jest. Marshall is poking fun at a rival on an hour-long radio appearance at a bar in Chicago surrounded by Chicago fans. Know the context. Obviously hard times aren’t isolated to Detroit in this country… Detroit is just an easy target to make fun of because your city sucks.

  45. mialto says: Nov 13, 2013 7:55 AM

    What’s wrong with stating facts? Remember a short time ago Ford said something as well. Detroit don’t get all sensitive, man up and grow a pair!

  46. tundratommy says: Nov 13, 2013 7:58 AM

    It doesn’t sound like Marshall has analyzed the city of Chicago’s financial statements recently.

  47. threatlevelxmidnight says: Nov 13, 2013 8:12 AM

    I was more surprised that he thought both the lions and bears would make the playoffs.

  48. m2karateman says: Nov 13, 2013 8:17 AM

    So, Brandon Marshall thinks the Bears will make the playoffs? Don’t think so. Your team got beat twice by the Lions. That’s right, the Lions beatdown the Bears like one of Brandon’s ex-girlfriends.

    Amazing that the Lions’ players weren’t gloating over the win, or talking smack about the Bears. But rather, this classless, clueless clown decides he’s gonna say something, and decides to pick on the city rather than pick on the team. That’s right Brandon, you can’t pick on the team, because they handed you your ass, TWICE.

    Good luck Bears. See you next season, because you aren’t going to the playoffs.

  49. ivanpavlov0000 says: Nov 13, 2013 8:30 AM

    The Bears won’t be making the playoffs this year. Bears fans can thank George McCaskey for turning the defense into a weakness as well as turning both the offensive and defensive lines into a joke.

  50. sullijo1 says: Nov 13, 2013 8:43 AM

    Marshall’s best friend is Jay Cutler. That’s all you need to know about this clown.

  51. sullijo1 says: Nov 13, 2013 8:44 AM

    Remember when all the talking heads thought the Cutler – Marshall reunion guaranteed a Super Bowl for Chicago???

    When do the talking heads get held accountable for idiot things said like this????

  52. otis52gsh says: Nov 13, 2013 8:45 AM

    The funny thing about the Lions, it the fact that they haven’t won ANYTHING yet. I love how this has their heads so big. Bears are not done this season, and nobody is running away with the North. Get a grip people.

  53. coachkilla6 says: Nov 13, 2013 8:52 AM

    When Marshall compared Detroit to their little brothers, it didn’t bother me. Brandon has shown no propensity to be a threat to his brothers. Had he compared Detroit to his girlfriend or mother, well, I can’t imagine the beatdown the Lions may have coming… #headcase

  54. TheRealLogicalVoice says: Nov 13, 2013 9:07 AM

    Detroit is a dump but it’s from years and years of democratic leadership not the Lions.

  55. thesconnienation says: Nov 13, 2013 9:16 AM

    GenXJay says:
    Nov 13, 2013 4:15 AM
    & cheese bay is like the cousin that plays with dolls.

    __________________________

    Haha! Green Bay is more like the brother who drives a nice car and dates the prom queen. You wish you could be him and try to bring him down, but no matter how hard you try you are still the failure.

    4 Super Bowl rings for GB compared to 1 combined from the rest of the division.

    You girls are just too funny!

  56. kabasaman says: Nov 13, 2013 9:31 AM

    As a Bears fan. I agree Marshall should shut up. But, the Lions have done nothing yet. Sure, their leading the division, and it’s about time. They’ve had how many draft picks in the first 5 for how many years now… Suh, Johnson, Stafford, Fairly just to name a few. If they had better coaching they should have been a playoff team for years.

  57. nflfan1326 says: Nov 13, 2013 9:33 AM

    Marshall needs to remember he plays in Chicago, which ain’t doing much better. How’s that pension fund doing in Chicago? Chicago is next on bankruptcy block.

  58. kontious says: Nov 13, 2013 9:39 AM

    YOU LOST. It wasn’t because Cutler is hurt. You were trailing, and it would have taken a clutch game-winning play to win. Injuries are a part of the game. Which is why we haven’t been relevant, our QB was injured his first two years. We are here now and we aren’t going away. Aaron Rodgers being injured isn’t an excuse either. Its a part of the game. I guess Chicago isn’t as hard as they say, all I hear is a lot of whining and excuses. Deal with it. We are the L.O.T.N.S “Leaders of the New School” class is in session. #Lionblood

  59. ahs2 says: Nov 13, 2013 9:50 AM

    Comparing history is the last defense for fans that just got swept. This years Lions roster beat this years Bears roster twice. I don’t care what the teams of the past did, it’s irrelevant. And injuries?! We’re out 5 starters and had a 3d string safety playing CB for the last half of the game. Then you have bears fans screaming about Cutler being hurt and at the same time screaming that they had a better chance to win with McCown…the back-up QB to John Kitna!

  60. kontious says: Nov 13, 2013 9:50 AM

    We have won something, 2 games this year against a whiny Bears team. As long as Jay Cutler is your QB, you will always be a low class team.

  61. ocdn says: Nov 13, 2013 9:59 AM

    If the Bears had won on Sunday, do you think he would be saying the things he did? I don’t. This shows his lack of sportsmanship and now my lack of respect for him as a man.

  62. jglion says: Nov 13, 2013 10:16 AM

    What really bothers Marshall is that he’s Calvin Johnson’s little brother.

  63. timmmah10 says: Nov 13, 2013 10:42 AM

    For those thinking Marshall is just “stating facts” and that people of Detroit shouldn’t get all “butthurt”, let’s keep it in perspective. Chicago is in crisis mode, as well as many large Midwest cities. But we’re not here to talk about that. We’re hear to talk about football…

    As for winning by only 2 points… uh… NFL is a pass/fail league. This isn’t college where blowing out a team is worth more than just squeaking by. A win is a win, and in this case, for Detroit, Chicago represents 2 wins on their schedule.

    Marshall should be talking about his coach who didn’t see after the first drive that Marshall was a mis-match all day, that Forte wasn’t getting any running room up the middle (Suh and Fairley didn’t over-pursue, bottling up running lanes). Then with the game on the line, they line up in a big package (with redzone monsters Marshall and Alshon on the sideline) for an ineffective pass, but get bailed out on an undisciplined play, only to use their mulligan by running Forte into the teeth of the defense. All this after playing a clearly hobbled Cutler over a decent backup, taking on more injuries to the defense, and miserable play calling all game.

    The Bears, when healthy, are a good NFL team. What’s left of this team will not make the playoffs, Brandon knows that, and he’s going to be the Diva Receiver that he is by flapping his gums. No shock. Raiola is handling it the right way. Laugh it off, because right now, the Bears are just an old joke.

    Someone want to let me know how the Bears make the playoffs missing:
    Peanut Tillman
    Lance BRiggs
    Jeremy Ratliff
    Jay Cutler
    DJ Williams
    Henry Melton
    Nate Collins
    Kelvin Hayden

    Most of their starting defense is on IR… DT is a huge problem for them. If you can’t stop the run, you’re going to continue losing games. Enjoy the extended time off this offseason, Brandon.

  64. crownofthehelmet says: Nov 13, 2013 10:44 AM

    If they trot out that thin skin on Sunday it’ll be a massacre. You’re
    not playing the nfcn this week ladies.

  65. madhouseonmadison says: Nov 13, 2013 10:47 AM

    lionsdraftguy says: Nov 12, 2013 10:46 PM

    Classless. Perfect fit for the Bears.

    __________________
    I don’t know that I’ve ever seen anything more humorous on this board EVER. A Lions fan speaking about another team being “classless”.

    This is PRICELESS!

  66. madhouseonmadison says: Nov 13, 2013 10:49 AM

    kontious says: Nov 13, 2013 9:50 AM

    We have won something, 2 games this year against a whiny Bears team. As long as Jay Cutler is your QB, you will always be a low class team.

    _____________________

    As a Lions fan you should NEVER call another team “low class”. You look foolish doing so. Seriously. Just don’t do it.

  67. madhouseonmadison says: Nov 13, 2013 10:52 AM

    ivanpavlov0000 says: Nov 13, 2013 8:30 AM

    The Bears won’t be making the playoffs this year. Bears fans can thank George McCaskey for turning the defense into a weakness as well as turning both the offensive and defensive lines into a joke.

    __________________

    Just a hunch…. losing your:

    All Pro defensive tackle
    All Pro linebacker
    Very productive middle linebacker
    #1 corner
    #3 corner
    #3 defensive tackle
    #4 defensive tackle

    … for the season or substantial periods of the season…

    That MIGHT hurt most team’s defensive performance. Just a hunch on my part thought. Don’t let rationale thought processes get in the way.

  68. madhouseonmadison says: Nov 13, 2013 10:55 AM

    mydogsnameisvick says: Nov 12, 2013 11:14 PM

    Let’s talk records since Raiola joined the Lions, that’s the truly fun one to talk about.

    Everybody knows they’ll lose in the playoffs thanks to some dumb personal foul penalty that changes the game.
    _____________________

    Game.
    Set.
    Match.

    IF the Lions make the playoffs their coach perpetuates this culture of classness and idiotic penalties. It will end up killing this team at some point this year. It should have (if not for brutal play calling by Trestman on Sunday) this past Sunday.

  69. bearsfan4life says: Nov 13, 2013 11:00 AM

    So how about some context?

    Was he talking in a press conference or was he filling in for his teammate on his teammate’s radio show?

    If he was filling in for Jay Cutler on his hour long segment on Waddle and weasel, what was the context of him saying what he said?

    Was he intentionally demeaning them or were they joking back and forth?

    Context is important.

  70. ronniemack323 says: Nov 13, 2013 12:15 PM

    The problem isn’t the sports hatred. The big vs little brother. I get it. The Bears have clearly been the better franchise historically, with the wins and the ONE superbowl victory to prove it. Two great midwestern towns that have contributed much to our nation. The problem is, taking out losses on a struggling city, and not keeping it in football context. When people are losing jobs, homes, filing bankruptcy and dealing with historical levels of violence and corruption, they look for something to give them hope. Sports, for the most part, gives cities (especially struggling ones) a bit of a reprieve. Talk about the “Same Ole Lions”. Bring up the past (Though Bears fans are trying to get back to ’85 like Back to The Future), but don’t take shots at a dying city. I love Detroit, but I also love Chicago, the Midwest, and my entire Country…

  71. madhouseonmadison says: Nov 13, 2013 12:29 PM

    ronniemack323 says: Nov 13, 2013 12:15 PM

    The problem isn’t the sports hatred. The big vs little brother. I get it. The Bears have clearly been the better franchise historically, with the wins and the ONE superbowl victory to prove it.

    ________________

    Detroit in existence since 1930 = (4) championships

    Chicago in existence since 1919 = (9) championships

    People can belittle championships all they wish – they still happened.

  72. khenien says: Nov 13, 2013 12:42 PM

    “Look Brandon…I’m really glad you have got you stuff together, but it does not make you an authority on every damn thing. How ’bout some humble, and a lot less talk?”

    Pretty low bar for having your stuff together. Attacking an entire city with people barely making it while you get paid millions to play a game. This guy just pretends he has his stuff together but all I see is trash.

  73. bcar1023 says: Nov 13, 2013 12:50 PM

    LOL Madhouse…. how many of those championships were you alive for? What’s really comical is that people think that their sports teams winning anything makes a difference in their lives. How many championships have changed your life? I’ve lived through 4 Stanley Cups, a World Series Title, 3 NBA Titles, countless league and conference championships etc… Every single one has the same result…. a couple more t-shirts to wash and about a week of a euphoric feeling. Maybe a parade. Otherwise, I’m back at work on Monday and trying to be the best husband and Dad that I can be. I understand being a fan. I’ve got a sports team or two inked on skin but to think that sports changes anything is pathetic. Enjoy those championships. I’m sure da Fridge was thinking of you when he broke through the goal line.

  74. rickrock6661982 says: Nov 13, 2013 2:38 PM

    It’s not 1985 anymore. Stop embarrassing my city.

    - Barack Obama

  75. madhouseonmadison says: Nov 13, 2013 4:09 PM

    LOL Madhouse…. how many of those championships were you alive for? What’s really comical is that people think that their sports teams winning anything makes a difference in their lives. How many championships have changed your life? I’ve lived through 4 Stanley Cups, a World Series Title, 3 NBA Titles, countless league and conference championships etc… Every single one has the same result…. a couple more t-shirts to wash and about a week of a euphoric feeling. Maybe a parade. Otherwise, I’m back at work on Monday and trying to be the best husband and Dad that I can be. I understand being a fan. I’ve got a sports team or two inked on skin but to think that sports changes anything is pathetic. Enjoy those championships. I’m sure da Fridge was thinking of you when he broke through the goal line.

    ___________

    Where did I ever remotely argue otherwise?

    My point was to the poster who highlighted ONE championship. It’s actually 9 to 5 – that’s all.

    Belittle them all you wish if I wasn’t alive.. it really doesn’t matter (as you so aptly pointed out).

  76. mackcarrington says: Nov 13, 2013 4:43 PM

    Sticks and stones, Detroit… Sticks and stones.

  77. zo121179 says: Nov 13, 2013 5:33 PM

    Why are there so many Detroit fans talking big time all of the sudden?

    Oh, I see. The weather has become fair.

  78. comeonnowguys says: Nov 15, 2013 1:57 PM

    Seriously. Win a playoff game in the age of the internet. Then talk.

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