Redskins leaning on last year’s streak for hope

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When the Giants talk about being firmly in the race (and everyone in the NFC East is), it seems more reasonable.

But the Redskins, owners of an identical 3-6 record, are leaning on their own recent history as they try to cling to hope for the rest of the year, a game and a half out of the division lead.

They had the same record at this point last year, when coach Mike Shanahan started “evaluating” players for the future and ripped off seven straight wins.

We know we’re capable of it because we’ve done it before,” linebacker Ryan Kerrigan said, via Mark Maske of the Washington Post. “But at the same time, . . . every week at this point in the season is a one-week season. You’ve got to treat it like that.”

Of course, the road is much tougher this year. With four division games to go, they also have to face the Chiefs and 49ers (along with a less-daunting trip to play the Falcons).

But the the six teams they play (the Giants are up twice) have a .536 winning percentage, while last year they finished against teams who were .478 at the time and .450 by the end of the season.

“Obviously to have an opportunity to still be in the conversation as far as the division is concerned is a bonus,” defensive lineman Kedric Golston said. “But at the end of the day, we’ve got to take care of our own business and start winning football games around here and stop relying on other people’s failures.”

Of course, the Redskins have plenty of self-inflicted wounds. Other than the specific awfulness of their special teams, the problems have been more diverse this year, without being able to pin the reasons for 3-6 on one side of the ball.

44 responses to “Redskins leaning on last year’s streak for hope

  1. Can’t pin it on one side of the ball?

    5th ranked offense.

    30th ranked defense.

    What am I missing?

  2. I actually think the Redskins have some talent, but the coaching has been consistently bad. Special teams, defense, offensive playcalling — all unacceptable. Shanahan needs to clean house or be cleaned out himself.

  3. I’m not sure they can count on the same kind of luck as last year, when every fumble they committed bounced right back up into their arms.

  4. All the haters wish that they could have RG3, the greatest QB in the NFL, as their quarterback. Redskins have got this as long as Goodell doesn’t conspire against the Redskins like he always does. HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. The odds are heavily against the Washington team. 3-6 teams rarely make the playoffs and even 1 more loss should knock them out of contention.

    The choke prone Cowboys are still better than Washington, and the Eagles seem to be settling in to Kelly’s way of doing things and if any of the NFCE teams is going to make a playoff run I think it will be them.

  6. I was at the game last Thursday and watched a defense that made Christian Ponder look good — so the Skins can keep dreaming.

  7. Wash Post had an interesting stat today. Of all Skins coaches (including Norv Turner) entering their 5th year as coach, Shanahan’s record is the worst.

  8. With the 5th ranked offense, I thought it was pretty clear that Jim Haslett was the problem. No need to evaluate players, it’s the scheme that needs help. Go back to a 4-3 and run Jim Haslett the heck outta town. Be sure to throw rocks at his bus as well.

  9. Last year is just what it is….last year!!! with that said this defense cant hold anybody and those special teams gaffs are monumental! Did you see the fake punt attempt? It was very Pop Warnerish.

    I have a distinct feeling that Shanny will not be fired at the end of the season,If so he would be nuts to keep Jim Haslett and that God awful special teams guy!!!!

    If they can get that defense fixed(overhauled secondary) and a new special teams coach this team could roll in 14!!!

  10. @kcroyal

    Anyone who watches football could tell you that Roger Goodell has an agenda against the Washington Redskins, who are GOD’S CHOSEN TEAM. If Goodell didn’t have that agenda against them, they could easily go 14-2. HAIL TO THE REDSKINS, GOD SMILES UPON THEM!

  11. They will lose to Philly this Sunday and all playoff hopes will be over. They got lucky last year. You can’t catch lightning in a bottle twice. The best part is they gave away the farm for RG3 and will be terrible for a long time because of the high draft picks they gave away. Philly got Foles in the 3rd who is looking much better than RG3 and it didn’t cost them anything. That’s called good scouting Deadskins fans.

  12. @l0glcalv0icesays

    Stop making excuses for your poor team. Goodell isn’t making your team bad, your owner, GM, coaches, and players are making you bad. If anything it would be in the best interest of the NFL and Goodell to have the Skins win. RG3 sells jerseys and the more he looses the less people will want to buy his merchandise. This is why your team will always be bad, you always want to point the finger rather than look in the mirror.

  13. No Worries . . All is fine.
    Skin’s-fans, always think last-place is going somewhere.

    drink some kool-aid

    purchase more merchandise . . too many ” wait till next year “. . shirts left for sale.

    I’m laughing all the way to the Bank

    I am Daniel Snyder , and I approved this message !

  14. if they would just put Shanahan’s profile on the side of their helmets the Redskin controversy would go away.

  15. It took the Redskins one half to figure out the Eagles. Teams game plan for Vick and Foles has one good week. Do not expect that to keep up. Shoeman you should keep your nose in yoru work.

  16. I love it. Someone has a good couple weeks and he’s the “best ever”. Someone has a bad couple weeks and they’re the “worst ever”. You clowns are hilarious. Look at Eli Manning. He has the most picks in the NFL but he has two Super Bowl rings. It’s all about playing well at the right time.

  17. perkjctc says: Nov 12, 2013 11:23 AM

    @l0glcalv0icesays

    Stop making excuses for your poor team. Goodell isn’t making your team bad, your owner, GM, coaches, and players are making you bad. If anything it would be in the best interest of the NFL and Goodell to have the Skins win. RG3 sells jerseys and the more he looses the less people will want to buy his merchandise. This is why your team will always be bad, you always want to point the finger rather than look in the mirror.
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    I find it shocking that people still think the actual logic dude is an actual redskins fan. Moreover, this isn’t even the actual guy, just some kind of copycat loser (hence the “l” instead of an “i”, “0” instead of an “o”).

    As a die hard Redskins fan, I’ve been in a deep depression since Thursday, but honestly this is really sweet of you guys. We are playing like garbage this year and it’s really exciting that people still care enough about the team to create fake accounts in order to embarrass our fan base, and then other people take time out of their lives to respond to the fake fan’s idiocy.

  18. 2005-won 6 games to get to playoffs.
    2007-won 5 games to get to playoffs
    2012-won 7 games and a Division Title plus playoffs.
    If you root for the other 3 pathetic teams in our division I would not bet against The Redskins Period. This Sunday The Run Begins Again. O you sorry egirls fans theirs now plenty film on your sorry team now.

  19. l0glcalv0icesays says

    Anyone who watches football could tell you that Roger Goodell has an agenda against the Washington Redskins, who are GOD’S CHOSEN TEAM. If Goodell didn’t have that agenda against them, they could easily go 14-2. HAIL TO THE REDSKINS, GOD SMILES UPON THEM!
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    I’ve actually come to feel sorry for poor delusional logical, his existence seems very pathetic

    So logical, if the Washington team is “god’s team” and Goodell is able to derail their efforts, you seem to be saying Goodell is more powerful than god.

    Lol

    Not to mention that with all the wars, disasters, starvation etc around the world it’s a very offensive statement that the “higher power” cares at all about a sporting event or team

  20. jimmyt says: Nov 12, 2013 9:49 AM

    “Of course, the Redskins have plenty of self-inflicted wounds.” – Like one of the worst trades in NFL history?
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    Can’t believe this myth is still going. Let’s just stop and think about it. With the 1 and 2 they would have retained they would have taken Mark Barron and a tackle like Mitchell Schwartz; in 2013 they would probably have gone with the best DB on the board, Xavier Rhodes; and this next draft would probably deliver a solid ILB like CJ Moseley. Barron will be a stellar player for a long time, Schwartz is a solid RT, and both Rhodes and Moseley have plenty of potential.

    However, if you think that those four guys would help this team on their way to being a perennial contender more than Robert Griffin, you just don’t know football. There is no price too steep for a franchise guy. If you’re in a position to get the leader of your team for the next decade, you go get him, no questions asked. This trade worked out really well for the Rams and the Redskins– which is how trades are supposed to work, end of story.

  21. skinsfanwill says: Nov 12, 2013 10:45 AM

    With the 5th ranked offense, I thought it was pretty clear that Jim Haslett was the problem. No need to evaluate players, it’s the scheme that needs help. Go back to a 4-3 and run Jim Haslett the heck outta town. Be sure to throw rocks at his bus as well.
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    The Redskins have nearly twice as many missed tackles as every other team in the NFL- true facts. Keep in mind, we all said the same thing last year, but then the defense started actually showing up and actually executing Haslett’s scheme, propping up a seven game win streak, during which the Redskins were the 7th best defense in the NFL.

    Secondly, With all respect to Monte Kiffin, the 3-4 is the way of the future in the NFL, and the team could not possibly make a worse mistake than a complete personnel changeover on defense. You also have to keep in mind that the last time the Redskins had normal cap room, the defense improved from 31st to 13th.

    And while a changeover on defense would be a massive mistake, however I’m absolutely in favor of firing Keith Burns and installing my 4 year old daughter at special teams coach, effective tomorrow- it would be an instant upgrade, not to mention freakin adorable (plus I’d get tickets).

  22. My take on the NFC East:

    WAS may not win the NFC East, but neither will the Giants. The Giants have to still play GB (yes they’re without Aaron Rodgers, but I don’t see them willingly losing three games in a row), CHI, DET, SD, WAS twice, and SEA. The Giants will lose at least two of those games. I don’t see them beating the Seahawks. At most that leaves them at 8-8. But more likely, assuming a split against WAS and maybe a win against GB, that gets them to 5-11. May they take one of the four games between CHI, DET, DAL, and SD. That gets them to 6-10. If they take both WAS games that gets them to 7-9. Eli Manning leads the NFL in interceptions; and, given that the only three Giant wins came against MIN, PHL, and OAK, I don’t see them finishing any better than 6-10 or 7-9. The Giants have a very touch schedule, probably almost as brutal as the Redskins; and, while they’ve won three games in a row, I don’t see them pulling the equivalent of an inside straight and going 6-1 or 5-2. The best I see them finishing is 8-8 and that would require EVERYTHING–and I do mean EVERYTHING–to go their way.

    Dallas is at .500, which they have been since 1996. And their problem remains Jerry Jones. They still have to play all three NFC East Teams once, GB (and they should have Aaron Rodgers back by then), OAK, and CHI. Their defense may be just as bad as the Redskins. I say they beat OAK, but lose to GB. That gets them to their sixth loss. I could see them going anywhere from 1-2 to 2-1 with their final three division games. The CHI game could go either way. So at best I see them ending 9-7. But 8-8 seems more likely. And if they crater in the remaining three divisional games they could even finish as bad as 6-10. At best they finish 9-7.

    PHL still has to play WAS and DAL in the NFC East. They still have to play DET, CHI, AZ, and MIN. I think they will go 1-1 with their remaining NFC East opponents. Either WAS or DAL will beat them. The games against CHI and DET could go either way, but I’ll assume a 1-1 split. They beat MIN. AZ is a pure tossup because, with their win last weekend, they have quietly gone 5-4. AZ could give PHL a run for their money and that game is a pure tossup. Assuming a win against WAS and a DAL loss, a loss to either CHI or DET, and a win against MIN, that gets them to 8-7. The AZ game could go either way. But then that leaves them at 8-8. Now if both CHI and DET beat them that makes them 7-9. I think the Eagles lose at least two more games, maybe three. So that leaves them at around 8-8.

    Which brings me to WAS, which has the hardest schedule of them all. WAS plays PHL, then SF, then NYG, then ATL, KC, DAL, and NYG. Their biggest roadblocks are KC and SF. The PHL game could go either way because, while PHL won the first matchup, WAS knows what they are going to do now. And I want to believe that the Redskins won’t willingly let their season die on Sunday without a fight. But I must tilt that game toward PHL. They lose to SF unless coming to the East Coast proves too much for the 49ers or something weird happens. I think they beat NYG twice and DAL at home to preserve some level of dignity. I think they beat ATL. That leaves them at 7-9. But if they surprise everyone and take one against SF and KC that gets them to 8-8. But the tiebreakers ensure that they don’t win the division unless they sweep their remaining games against PHL, DAL, and NYG. The math for them is simple: win all four remaining division games and go 2-1 against SF, KC, and ATL. I could see them hypothetically wining the final four divisional games and beating a severely injured and demoralized ATL team. But I don’t see them beating the Chiefs or the 49ers. The best WAS can finish is 8-8. But they could end up as bad as 6-10.

    Looking at the schedules one of these two games will determine who wins the division.

    Either the DAL at WAS game in Week 16 or the PHL at DAL game in Week 17.

    So I think that the NFC East is probably going to come down to the Cowboys and Eagles.

  23. “I have a distinct feeling that Shanny will not be fired at the end of the season,If so he would be nuts to keep Jim Haslett and that God awful special teams guy!!!!”
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    Snyder can’t fire Shanahan because he fired coaches way too early into their tenure. I think that, from the perspective of not wanting to dissuade other would-be coaches from coming here, Snyder has to let Shanahan finish out his contract. I don’t think that Snyder fires Shanahan this year absent a 3-13 or 4-12 finish.

    I do think, though, that Haslett gets fired if the defense doesn’t improve–or, at the very least, they should fire him. I don’t see how they keep him on if the defense continues to cost them wins.

  24. Nick Foles had a very good game against the Raiders. But the Raiders–let’s be honest–are still a work in progress. Pryor and McFadden have promise, but they are probably 1-2 years away from being anywhere close to competitive.

    But last week I would say that Green Bay lost the game more than Philadelphia won it. Green Bay was in the red zone four times. They missed three field goals, threw an INT to PHL, and couldn’t convert on 4th down. Even without Aaron Rodges they had plenty of opportunities to be in position to win that game. But when you miss three FGs, don’t convert on 4th down, and turnover the ball deep in the redzone, you lose.

    The Eagles have beaten the Giants, Redskins, Packers, Raiders, and Buccaneers. I would say that only the Green Bay win was a “quality win” per se. It will be interesting to see how the Eagles stand up to the Bears and Lions. They still haven’t won at home all year. They are in strong position to win the division, but they aren’t out of the woods either.

  25. harrisonhits2 says: Nov 12, 2013 7:52 PM
    Not to mention that with all the wars, disasters, starvation etc around the world it’s a very offensive statement that the “higher power” cares at all about a sporting event or team
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    It’s funny you care at all about what “Logicalvoicesays” especially when this dude is “l0glcalv0icesays ” God, you people who take this guy and his various parodies serious are dumb.

  26. WATCH OUT FOR THE GIANTS.. THERE DEFENSE IS LOOKING GOOD. IF ELI N NICKS GET ON TRACK THE EAST IS THERES FOR THE TAKEN
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    Giants still have to play Green Bay, Seattle, Washington twice, Dallas, San Diego, and Detroit. Their schedule is almost as hard as Washington.

    I don’t see them finishing 5-2 or 6-1. The only teams they’ve beaten so far are the Vikings, Eagles, and Raiders. And Eli Manning leads the NFL in interceptions this year. At the very, very best, I see them finishing 8-8.

  27. “They just lost to the Vikings…..all playoff talk ends with that statement.”

    This is typical Redskin football. For whatever reason they tend to not show up against the worst teams in the NFL. Even in losing efforts they usually are in most of the games against good teams, the Denver and Green Bay games aside. But they just always seem to give away the wins that, on paper, should be easy. They’ve been doing it since the 2000s.

  28. The offense is one that still needs to be respected even if you refuse to check the stats.. The D doesn’t have to be SF-like but clutch stops, and the fact that it can force turnovers and is the top 10 in takeaways could help this team down the stretch…

  29. getyourownname says:
    Nov 12, 2013 10:40 AM
    Wash Post had an interesting stat today. Of all Skins coaches (including Norv Turner) entering their 5th year as coach, Shanahan’s record is the worst.
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    That isn’t what it said. They were showing coaches who had four years as a Redskins HC and Shanny’s winning % was the worst. This is bad use of stats for two reasons because it doesn’t compare apples to apples; it is an apples to oranges comparison.
    First, reason is Shanny hasn’t completed four seasons but his winning % right now is .429. Second, it doesn’t look at coaches with more than four seasons after their fourth season. Case in point, Norv after four seasons had a winning % of .406 (worse than Shanny).

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