NFLN keeps driving wedge between Steelers, Roethlisberger

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The Steelers may want to sell their 1/32nd interest in NFL Network.  Then again, they may want to double down.

For the second time in four days, NFL Network has published a report that could drive a wedge between the Steelers and quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.  And it could be playing out exactly how the Steelers want it.

On Thursday night, Mike Silver of NFL Network shared this observation from one or more unnamed Steelers sources: “When he is away from the facility, he is no Peyton Manning. That is the biggest obstacle to him staying.”  Silver also said that the Steelers believe Roethlisberger “is more engaged this year, doing a better job of preparation when he is at the facility.”

Possible message, sent via the network the Steelers partially own?  When it’s time to extend Ben’s contract after the season, Ben shouldn’t expect to get paid like Peyton Manning.  And Roethlisberger should expect to make a bigger commitment to his profession.

On Sunday, Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reported, citing unnamed “Steelers sources,” that the Steelers believe Roethlisberger may ask for a trade in the offseason.  All parties denied any intention to part ways, with Roethlisberger coming out so strongly and zealously against being traded that he has essentially backed himself into a corner.  If the Steelers don’t offer him what he wants, it’s now impossible for him to ask to be traded.

But the phone definitely will be ringing, in the event a new deal can’t be worked out.  Which will give the Steelers a viable Plan B if Ben wants to be paid like Peyton Manning and if the Steelers want to pay him like, well, Ben Roethlisberger.

Although Ben clumsily has claimed ignorance of contractual matters, the signs already are emerging that he wants more than $20 million per year.  There’s no way the Steelers will pay him that much.

And so the game will continue, with the Steelers playing chess via the network they partially own — and Roethlisberger saying, “Hey, what’s that horse thing?”

110 responses to “NFLN keeps driving wedge between Steelers, Roethlisberger

  1. Who knows what’s really going on, but to all outside appearances, it looks as tough Big Ben is just going thru the motions this year.

  2. First they get rid of all his wr’s: P.Burress, S.Holmes, N.Washington, M.Wallace, etc.

    Then they get rid of good buddy and blind-side protector Max Starks.

    Then the get rid of good buddy and mentor OC Bruce Arians.

    Heath Miller is probably next.

    Looks like they’ve been trying to make Roethlisberger uncomfortable for a while.

  3. He wants 20 and he can’t stay healthy or be relevant when it matters. That coupled with a deep draft at the QB position and a tanking season is enough to conclude that they will be parting ways.

  4. .

    The Steelers have the leverage here. They currently own the 7th overall pick in next year’s draft which would give them the ability to draft a top shelf QB if they so desired.

    .

  5. It’s interesting he gets labeled that he’s ‘no Peyton Manning’, now. He’s never been ‘Peyton Manning’! But that doesn’t mean anything, anyway. His performance has declined ever since Todd Haley was brought in. I think he can’t stand Haley and Haley’s offense and he’s ready to move on or be moved on if the Steelers choose Haley over him.

    Either way the Steelers have a choice to make since their cap situation is near implosion. Trade him and get something of value in return or dump Haley and try to get him at a good price with the promise of an offense he likes.

    It’s all kind of sad in a way. I think the bigger part of blame can go to poor cap management. If they can get it straightened out over the next season or two maybe they’ll be able to look back and know what not to do next time.

  6. “the signs already are emerging that he wants more than $20 million per year. There’s no way the Steelers will pay him that much.”

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    That’s what a starting qb in the NFL costs. The Steelers don’t have a choice. They’ll pay him $20 mil/year, or they’ll pay it to the next true #1 qb.

    Unless they believe Ben’s not as good as Flacco, which clearly is not the case. Ben has repeatedly beaten and outplayed Flacco, even in some of their recent, down years.

    But as I’ve said, if someone wants to give the Steelers 2 number one draft picks for Ben, I’m all for it. Especially if they could get any picks at all for Polamalu, Woodley, and Ike Taylor. Then they could fire Colbert and get a decent GM and do a complete rebuild next year, ala Indianapolis.

  7. He isn’t worth 5 million a year, no player is. That’s why attendance is down and watching at home has gotten to be the better option. Fans are tired of paying the salaries that are getting out of control. Stay home, much better experience.

  8. He and Steelers fans may not want to hear it, but Big Ben to Arizona makes too much sense not to happen.

  9. I can see why Pittsburgh doesn’t want this unsavory character… maybe the whiners can swap QB’s? Rothlesberger can hang with the whiners unsavory characters… (not that the other 30 teams don’t have some bad seeds). I would love to see Rothlesberger get whacked 2x a year by the hawks.

  10. The Steelers have no leverage, Ben is in control. That is why it is more likely that he made the play or rather somebody did indirectly for him. PIT is in a weak negotiating position to begin with, and this variable is more in favor of Ben’s hand than theirs. They don’t have as good of a motive to implant the hint or the tip this early into the process, but it definitely could serve as a fascinating way to disrupt the flow of that negotiation process from Ben’s perspective, and then to get out in front and make a stump speech.

    The tables are now tilted in favor of Ben more than they were a week ago. So if PIT leaked the rumor, then that’s their business to determine if that check size was worth whatever their vision is.

  11. I can understand Ben wanting to get paid 20 million but I also understand the steelers not wanting to pay an aging qb that has took an absolute beating throughout his career.

  12. 1) With their cap problems and aging roster, I see the “R” word in their near future.

    2) I can’t See Ben making anywhere near $20m unless it’s tied to outstanding performance. in his contract.

    3) Name me a better landing place than the Cardinals. O-line improving, but still need a QB that can move. Pretty much every other piece of the roster is in place. Papa Bruce. Fitz has a few years left (just like Ben). Stellar defense.

  13. apkyletexas says:
    Nov 14, 2013 8:02 PM
    That’s what a starting qb in the NFL costs. The Steelers don’t have a choice. They’ll pay him $20 mil/year, or they’ll pay it to the next true #1 qb.
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    Rookies don’t cost anywhere near that much and they would be on the team for a while before it comes time to pay them that much.

  14. I’m 52, I used to love coming to this site to read about sports, however now it’s just a joke. First of all, about 75% of the stories now are just bait material to attract trolls to trash on rival teams. People come on here and make hateful racial jokes about each other, the articles are just full of speculation, and unnamed sources. They are written in such a way as to just attract the most mean and hateful people. A journalist who I used to respect , yes you mike Florio, has recently just decided to go down to the gutter and report the worst possible garbage and report it as news. I’m sick of it. Just once I’d like to see some news where it’s not just bait material to attract the trolls. Every time I tried to post an analytical argument to this swill you call news, you never post it. Your so called reporters, are so thin skinned, they refuse to post anything that is the opposite of their opinion, or in any way point out their innacura it’s. What is so hard about emailing us posters back to explain why you don’t post our comments? Is it possible you don’t have a reason?

  15. I also think Ben is a better actor than Incognito. I have a sci-fi script I am working on that I’m going to try and cast him in about 15 years ago as long as he doesn’t have a Fantex contract in play.

  16. What are you talking about? This article makes no sense and is completely fabricated with nothing but speculation. You’re the one making up rumors and creating assumptions. This is only an issue because the media (YOU) keep making outrageous reports. Give it a rest.

  17. Sounds like the NFL network as predicted feels it is bigger than it is. The quality of the networks shows continue to go down and yet they still feel they know all. I find this as many things the network and any media outlet does is very questionable. They also are great in picking and choosing what they go after,

  18. 3) Name me a better landing place than the Cardinals. O-line improving, but still need a QB that can move. Pretty much every other piece of the roster is in place. Papa Bruce. Fitz has a few years left (just like Ben). Stellar defense.

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    It’s Jacksonville. I’m pretty sure the Steelers wouldn’t mind the first or second pick in the draft. The Jaguars would be so nervous about missing on another QB in the draft that they could bring Ben in, and build a team around that. QB is definitely their biggest problem, and Ben isn’t all that old. They’d automatically improve by five or six wins. It’s better than selling their fanbase on another one or two win season.

  19. He’s good as gone! Look for ben to be wearing a Vikings or Jags jersey next season. 5x of course.

  20. Why do I have this ominous feeling as a Lions fan that the Steelers will come out this week and play way, way better this week because of all this crapulation (crap + speculation!)

  21. Makes sense to ship him out. Steeler cap situation is aweful. They need a rookie qb contract to get their house in order. It sucks to rebuild but that’s what they are doing will be 2-3 years till their relevant again. Makes sense for Tomlin and Haley to get their guy. And Arians and others would pay for him.

  22. Who benefits from a poisoning of the relationship between Big Ben and the Steelers (other than PFT stirring up page views)? What unnamed Steeler “source” would be offensive enough to coordinate bad blood between the two? Whose job would be on the line if the Steelers gave Big Ben the capstone contract he has earned? If Big Ben isn’t worth top money then why are so many teams being mentioned as landing places? Does the Lone Ranger know that Tonto has disguised himself?

  23. Steelers need OL help nothing wrong with the QB. Like the above poster states 20m is the going rate for top tier QBs.

    Steelers need to get younger on defense.

  24. NFLN Thursday night football.
    Ryan Fitzpatrick dives forward (head-first) with no contact and upon hitting the ground, fumbles the football. (RG3 did the same thing and it resulted in a fumble / subsequent turnover). Of course in this titans case, on Thursday night football, no official ‘sees’ pagano’s challenge flag and a couple of plays later, Fitzpatrick slides, feet first.
    Just saying NFLN has every interest in making sure *wink* that the home crowd walks away happily. It may even boast subscriptions next year.

  25. Big Ben looks like McNair did at the end of his run as a game changer. If I had to put money down id say he moves on to Arizona with Arians and tries to help Fitz win a ring, Carson has not look the same since the curtain literally fell down on him.

  26. In the future, can you please label any stories involving Mike Silver in the headlines. That way I can avoid reading his garbage. That media hack must want to make up for being picked on by jocks because all he does is stir up to poo poo. Can’t stand that POS

  27. thestrategyexpert says: Nov 14, 2013 7:56 PM

    Or Ben could have tipped the lead to make PIT look guilty to add one layer of gamesmanship for them to trip over and miscalculate? Just trying to find the extra dollar.
    ___________
    This guy may be on to something. It’s all about the dollar. And I could definitely see the CIA and Haliburton putting Ben up to this as part of a master plan to secure the massive oil reserves hidden under Heinz Field.

    Then they could use the ensuing quarterback controversy as the perfect venue to cover up the Kennedy assassination with a fake moon landing (filmed by John Mara, of course).

  28. freethinker65 says: Nov 14, 2013 8:44 PM

    Who benefits from a poisoning of the relationship between Big Ben and the Steelers (other than PFT stirring up page views)?
    ______________
    My first thought too. This why this site is virtually unusable by Redskins fans. Polarizing teams don;t get actual stories, just controversial speculations that we might be speculating about more controversial speculations in the future.

  29. Perect time for my Vikes to pass on a future franchise draftee and bring in one more old vet, although I think Ben has a ton of football left, bad o line , no running game, average receivers ….. He is still a stud

  30. NFLN doesn’t need a source within the team to tell them Roethlisberger isn’t Manninglike in his prep. Anyone who’s followed the team more than five minutes knows the guy isn’t a student of the game and doesn’t work up to the level of the game’s best QBs. NFLN doesn’t need a secret source to tell them Ben’s hinting that he should be paid top QB money. He’s made that clear on his radio show.

    The only interesting thing I took from the pregame conversation on NFLN is, despite all the denials, Rapoport’s sticking to his story that Ben’s looking to be traded. I don’t see the Steelers playing media games to send messages to Ben. But I could see him playing games to send messages to them.

  31. jakec4 says: Nov 14, 2013 8:30 PM

    3) Name me a better landing place than the Cardinals. O-line improving, but still need a QB that can move. Pretty much every other piece of the roster is in place. Papa Bruce. Fitz has a few years left (just like Ben). Stellar defense.

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    It’s Jacksonville. I’m pretty sure the Steelers wouldn’t mind the first or second pick in the draft. The Jaguars would be so nervous about missing on another QB in the draft that they could bring Ben in, and build a team around that. QB is definitely their biggest problem, and Ben isn’t all that old.
    __________

    I don’t really buy this story in the first place, but have you seen this year’s QB class? If the Jaguars can’t find a starter this year they should be forcibly relocated to London.

    Moreover, Ben is “all that old”. Because he’s big, he’s taking more of a beating in his career than any other QB in the league. Super Bowl winning 24-year-old “Big Ben” is now 31-year old “Big, Banged-Up Ben” He’s still capable, but has at most three or four good years left, if that. In other words, he’s not a player to build a team around at this stage in his career: especially for a long-struggling franchise like Jacksonville.

  32. donmcg2012,

    you are aware that NFL attendance is actually booming and that tickets account for less than 8% of team revenue right?

    staying home and watching the game, based on the figures currently paid by networks and advertisers is more profitable for teams than tailgating in parking lots.

    but hey, let’s not allow fact, reality, or common sense to mess up a great story!!!

    you probably think that lower player salaries would result in lower ticket prices too right?

    todays lesson is “supply and demand”. read chapters 1-6 and then think before posting again.

    wise man once said….. its better to be quiet and thought the fool than open ones mouf and remove all doubt.

    google it.

  33. Too much smoke for no fire. Steelers (Steelers fan here) are putting out feelers, trying to build up the market.

    If a team like Jacksonville were to be willing to give up their 1st? It would make Arizona and Minnesota have to pay more. Pittsburgh WOULD NOT trade Ben to a team that has no chance. In AZ, Ben would have Bruce, Fitz and even Mendenhall. In Minnesota, he will be playing in a dome AND with AP in the backfield. Either COULD become a threat with Ben at QB.
    If we can get a 1 & 3 for him? Jump on it.

  34. This story, and comments, are a joke! If you are a Steeler fan, you follow the local writers that follow the team daily. There are no legs to this story, as much as these hacks want you to believe. They have websites, blogs, to sell, to get your attention, and their names to sell. It’s amusing to read the comments, of uneducated fools, and dreamers of the Steeler demise, and Ben will be the quarterback, of your team, because you don’t have one, that’s won multiple Super Bowls. There is a reason they have 6 Lombardi’s, 3 head coaches in 5 decades, and that is the Rooney family…..Ben will retire a Steeler….mark it down.

  35. The problem is that rapoport has ZERO reliable steelers sources. If it was Aditi (sp?), that’d be another story. But it’s not…

  36. I don’t care how tough of a year it is in Pittsburgh, you don’t get rid of a 31 year old QB who has played in 3 of the past 8 Super Bowls…winning 2…including leading one of the most epic game winning TD drives in Super Bowl history.

    – signed, Patriots fan

  37. Pittsburgh sucks. Steeler Nation has been in denial that the team even existed for forty years before they won a championship.

    They’re just looking to move up in the draft, then give Tomlin another opportunity to rebuild the team. #washedupbigben

  38. Of course Ben wants out of Pittsburgh. He has already harassed, molested, and assaulted every female in Western Pennsylvania. There’s nothing left for him to accomplish there. He needs to move on in search of new deviant adventures.

  39. Ok lets trade the old guys for draft picks. Not sure how thats going to solve any problems. Its not like tomlin has had a great track record at drafting. Just look at the last eight years.

  40. Lame story with no legs. I laugh at the comments here! There is a reason the Steelers have 6 Lombardi’s…3 coaches in 5 decades, 2 franchise QB’s, Bradshaw, and Roethlisberger….the Rooney family knows how to win…Ben will retire a Steeler…mark it down!

  41. Been saying for some time – – Ben is lazy.

    It’s obvious now that:
    1 – he’s older
    2 – he doesn’t have the running game

    He’s not an elite QB.

    He will not get much in trade other than cap relief.

  42. nickster31 says: Nov 14, 2013 9:46 PM

    Too much smoke for no fire. Steelers (Steelers fan here) are putting out feelers, trying to build up the market.

    If a team like Jacksonville were to be willing to give up their 1st? It would make Arizona and Minnesota have to pay more. Pittsburgh WOULD NOT trade Ben to a team that has no chance. In AZ, Ben would have Bruce, Fitz and even Mendenhall. In Minnesota, he will be playing in a dome AND with AP in the backfield. Either COULD become a threat with Ben at QB.
    If we can get a 1 & 3 for him? Jump on it.
    ==============================

    Nick, pour water on your face. You’re apparently sleeping.

    So let’s see, you’re the GM of Jacksonville. Would you give a first, one of the top couple picks in the draft, for an old, heavy, immobile QB who was never that good and is now much worse, when your team sucks everywhere?

    NO ONE is giving a 1 for Roth. GUARANTEE.

    Much less a 1 and a 3.

    You’ll get a 2 and a 4.

    Possibly a 2 and a conditional 3.

    AT MOST.

    And I’m being GENEROUS.

  43. There’s some dreamers in Pittsburgh man. There’s no way anyone’s giving up a number 1 for this guy, especially number 1 in the entire draft. He’s over 30 and he’s not good enough at this point to warrant a #1. Everyone knows the cap situation the Steelers are in. If they’re looking to unload Ben, they really don’t have the upper hand in negotiations.

  44. I haven’t seen this much discord on the team since the pre-Chuck Noll days. The Colbert/Tomlin duo has not drafted well and have mismanaged the salary cap. The only way for the Rooney’s to get back to respectability is to clean house, which means getting as high a draft choice as they can for Ben and ridding themselves of, but not limited to, Clark, Keisel, Worilds, Gay, Hood, Dwyer and Sanders.

  45. At first I couldn’t imagine Big Ben being traded but the more I read ppls comments the more the possibility of him leaving seems real. So what if he goes to AZ to reunite with all the former Steelers will Clark follow? What if Johnny Manziel is available? Would that be a good fit for Pittsburgh? Todd Haley is gone. Period. The GM also. We fix the o-line by drafting better guys. Get a power running back. Emmanuel sanders leaves also. Our defensive coordinator retires. And we hit the restart button. Yes it sounds scary to see so many ppl go but they way we are headed 0-16 may be next years record then what?

  46. chuke43 says:
    Nov 14, 2013 9:51 PM
    This story, and comments, are a joke! If you are a Steeler fan, you follow the local writers that follow the team daily. There are no legs to this story, as much as these hacks want you to believe.

    ========================

    On the contrary, Gerry Dulac with the Pittsburgh Post Gazette newspaper said yesterday in his online chat that Rapaport has good sources and that Dulac himself has heard similar things from his Steeler sources.

    Ed Bouchette with the Post Gazette on his chat said he trusted Rapaport.

  47. Steelers Fans must be delusional because there is no way the top 5 teams will trade away their pick for Ben. He’s one of the most overrated QB’s in the history of pro football. Even when he was the Super Bowl champ years, he was barely worth a middle-late first.. His value has to be in the 3rd or 4th at this point of his career.

  48. IMO he’s a 8-10M a year player and personally, I don’t want him on my team as I could see him going downhill rather fast and OUT of the NFL in 3 years easy….if he thinks ANYONE is paying him 20M, he’s suffering from concussion symptoms from the motorcycle crash years ago…

  49. He ought to change his name to Big Been! It’s time for him to go. The Steelers missed the playoffs last season as an 8-8 team and are struggling this season also. It’s time to move on. Trade him while he still has value. He has turned into a human QB sack., turnover machine. He is not a leader and it is not a coincidence that when the team loses its leaders it falls apart. The guy is a phony.

  50. nobody is “manning like” in their preparation for game time. so comparing him and manning is apples and oranges. ben isn’t going anywhere. there is no way that will happen. if you ever watched the steelers for 5 seconds you would know that it took 30 plus years to find a franchise QB. they wont gamble on the draft landing them 1. the draft is a crapshoot! look how many teams thought they were getting a franchise QB through the years only to end up with a dud. ben has been to 3 super bowls. and he is a 1st ballot hall of famer! ohhh yaaa I said it!

  51. You continue to ramp up the media blitz on Roethlisberger — yet, demean Roethlisberger for talking about it, when he’s responding to the “crisis” you’re fanning the flames of.

  52. Listening to Rappaport and Silver on
    NFL.com you get the image of the mean girl tweeners spreading gossip and innuendo against the girl not in the room . . . “Hey did you guys here . . .”. Sad to see LT sucked into it.

    Can’t wait to seeBen and Troy on Sunday. Hard to imaging this kind’ve money to go to Pittsburgh and not have their stars o! The field. But why would the Rooney’s care if our crowd of four decided to stay home if the best Steelers are gone next year?

    Reporters, ask the question of who draws fans with dollars?

  53. Long shot here;

    We’ll take him! Come on home, Ben (Browns). Put him on the Browns and we all of a sudden are a real contender in the AFC. Plus our O line is better so he won’t get killed every week. People in Cleveland are so starved, we don’t care what he would do “away from the facility”!

  54. For the Patriots fan that said you don’t get rid of a Super Bowl q.b. Ever hear of a guy named Joe Montana?

  55. we already have an old qb in palmer we don’t need an over the hill high priced bookend to go with him. az won’t do it. they won’t give up a #1 draft choice for him , hell not even a#6. we don’t need any more pitt castoffs, that crew who did all that are gone, wiz , graves are both gone. yea!!!!

  56. Ben is 31, he will get upwards of 20 million per season from the Steelers. They went too long with Bubby Brister and his ilk. NFL network is crazy

    The Steelers have sold out every game since the merger, they have 15000 on their wait list.

    Pay the man Shirley

  57. Didn’t we all kind of figure out Big Ben wasn’t anything like Manning outside the facility when he was partying like a frat boy raping women in bathroom stalls? O.o

  58. Everyone sing along:

    By the time he gets to Phoenix we’ll be rising
    we’ll find the note he left hangin’ on his locker door
    We’ll laugh when we read the part that says he’s leavin’
    ‘Cause that’s exactly what we were looking for.

  59. I’ll laugh big time if any team is dumb enough to pay him over 20 mil a year. I have no doubt the Ravens regret their idiotic contract for Flacco as they see he is not the elite guy that type of salary represents. Ben isn’t elite either.

  60. When you think of HOF type QBs that have retired in exile it was either injury (Peyton, not EXACTLY in exile) or a young guy pressing him (Steve Young for Joe Montana and Aaron Rodgers for Brett Favre) that were big time contributing elements. Neither seems to exist in Pittsburgh although I hope Ben survives a Boy Named Suh Sunday.

    I don’t remember how Johnny U ended up in San Diego but is wasn’t pretty.

    Ben re-signs for another $100,000,000 maybe the first to sign two nine figure deal but then it plays out some years from now…but not now!

  61. If the Vikings took Aaron barr/clowney in the first, traded our high second like the chiefs and 49ers and the steelers were willing, I’d definitely want to do it.

  62. Using Peyton Manning as a comparison to Big Ben is a bit short sighted. For starters, Roethlisberger has played six fewer seasons than Manning, but has led the Steelers to a 2-1 record in Super Bowls.

    So in other words, he’s got one more ring than Peyton. The Steelers might want to find another avenue on which to state their case.

    On the other hand, if the Steelers want to trade him, they’ll find plently of suitors.

  63. Personally, I hope they pay him to stay. It would be a juggernaut contract. But given how cash strapped they already are, I doubt I’m that lucky.

  64. And I’m being GENEROUS

    You have to be generous as the steelers led by a Fat Old Ben beat your sorry assed Ravens. Be thankful you are not taxed on your bs or you would be broke Joe Montana Flacco

  65. They can call it whatever they want. I heard Tomlinson make the best comment about Ben yet last night. Basically, he reinforced something I already suspected and that is Ben is disinterested in his job. Trading him isn’t going to make him interested in being an NFL player.

    Ben has always had a lazy streak in him going back to his early days and getting criticized in the media by his teammates for being the last one in the locker room every day. Take a lazy guy and make him disinterested and there is a huge problem.

  66. Nofoolnodrool says: Nov 15, 2013 10:03 AM

    And I’m being GENEROUS

    You have to be generous as the steelers led by a Fat Old Ben beat your sorry assed Ravens. Be thankful you are not taxed on your bs or you would be broke Joe Montana Flacco
    =======================

    Why assume I’m a Flacco fan?

    Flacco is as irrelevant as Pig Pen.

    It’s just that Flacco won a SB within the last many years.

    Hope you’re young.

    Otherwise you’ll never see another SB.

  67. While Ben’s best days might be behind him, anyone that doesn’t think he is a top tier QB isn’t paying attention. Ben has had a sub-par OL since Alan Faneca left in 2008. He took to Steelers to two Super Bowls with patchwork protection. While he might look like Dick Van Dyke falling over an ottoman out there, his size and strength, along with his ability to read defenses on the run while putting the ball where it needs to be (usually) is what makes him so valuable. While other teams are looking for the next RGIII or Cam Newton to do the run option, no one is looking for someone like Ben because his skills are unique to him. The Steelers are lucky to have him, and if for some reason the Steelers and/or Ben decided that they should part company, the team that ends up with him will be lucky as well.

  68. northsidesteel,
    Ben may be strong, but he looks like he is falling over an ottoman because his body is shot and there is little coordination. Ben can’t read defenses and is incapable of throwing the ball on a quick slant. His accuracy is terrible this year and anyone watching can see that.

    Are the Steelers lucky to have him. Probably not at this point. They were, at one point, lucky to have him but the luck seems to have run out.

    Ben is killing the Steelers with turnovers. There are nine QBs in the nfl with interceptions equal to or more than Ben. Six of those teams have losing records. Two of the winning teams are one loss from being .500. The only decent one in the bunch is Cincinnati. Let’s not pretend Ben isn’t a huge problem for the Steelers. A QB with poor accuracy is an interception waiting to happen and Ben’s accuracy is poor.

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