Jonathan Martin speaks, sort of, after meeting with Wells

AP

Jonathan Martin made his first statement since he became the most talked-about player in the NFL.

But it was not a long one.

I do not intend to discuss this matter publicly at this time, . . .” Martin said, via Mike Garafolo of FOX Sports. “This is the right way to handle this matter.”

The Dolphins tackle met for more than seven hours league investigator Ted Wells in his New York office, emerging moments ago. Wells is heading the league’s investigation into reports of bullying by Martin’s teammate Richie Incognito.

Martin did not take any questions, making it a long and unproductive day for reporters staked out on the sidewalk. He did say he looked forward to “resuming my career in the National Football League.”

And while his relative silence on the matter isn’t surprising, it won’t make the weeks of speculation subside, while Wells investigates the Dolphins and their role in Incognito’s behavior.

63 responses to “Jonathan Martin speaks, sort of, after meeting with Wells

  1. Mr. Martin I only have one thing to tell you. Snitches get stitches.

    When you get your next job as a ditch digger, nobody is going to trust you there either.

    You’ve painted yourself into this corner, shame you never learned how to work smart.

  2. meeting with Wells”
    chargerdillon says:
    Nov 15, 2013 5:15 PM
    Mr. Martin I only have one thing to tell you. Snitches get stitches.

    When you get your next job as a ditch digger, nobody is going to trust you there either.

    You’ve painted yourself into this corner, shame you never learned how to work smart.

    —————–

    Your right, maybe people who get bullied shouldn’t do anything about it and just be depressed for the rest of their life…

  3. It’s to bad it went this far. This whole thing should have been dealt with internally. Now that the league is involved nothing good can come of it. I blame all involved. Richie Incognito for taking a rookie hazing into the second year, and going to far, I blame the locker room as a whole for not seeing the problem, or if they did, doing nothing to stop it. I blame Martin for going outside the organization, it was obvious that if it was this serious he could have gone as far as the president to get it fixed before it went this far. My guess is if he had went just to his head coach and told him what he was thinking of doing it would have been addressed in a private manner and nothing would have come of it.

    There is enough blame to go around. The issue I have with it is this will some how affect the Lions locker room that is just now coming together. When the league gets involved it hurts every team. Martin should have known this.

  4. 7 hours….

    First 6 spent making sure Martin felt good about himself and wasn’t being “bullied” into answering questions.

    Then 2 questions on the Dolphins/Incognito situation followed by 45 minutes of cry therapy and hugs.

  5. Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.

    In the pre-PC / Glee era that is what they taught they taught kids. Now if someone doesn’t get a trophy it’s emotional abuse. What a generation of wimps.

  6. Man now that was one genuine, heartfelt statement.

    The fact that teammates of both have come out talking how Martin was laughing while passing around a text, which he is now using as evidence, shows you that he’s got unclean hands.

    This is awful for the NFL and for the Dolphins. Regular people aren’t supposed to understand the locker room. Everyone talking about the on-field hits taking the NFL into sissy territory? Change the overall culture of these men’s quarters and you’ll gut the game.

  7. Everyone get’s Bullied in some form or another. You need to handle it yourself not snitch. That means you have no pride or self respect. Martin will never make in the NFL or anything else he try’s to do in life.

  8. None of this is bullying. Just men being men. For those who have grown up in this pc world of feminism you are not aware that men behave this way when they get together. They make fun of each other, this is how men act.

    This guy has no business being around men. He needs a job with women and other scared men.

    His Dad should be ashamed of himself for his sons behavior. When the going gets tough…. Just run home to mommy

  9. This “Man” lost my sympathy upon hearing about the thousand or so texts him and Incognito exchanged AFTER the voicemail. In one of his many texts, congratulating Incognito and the team on the win, etc etc. Now he is lawyered up, and positioning himself for a Lawsuit. That is more of a guy you can’t trust, and someone you certainly do not want to be in a “foxhole” with. Outsiders who have never played football or have never been in a locker room will never understand that the environment is not the same as your cubicle environment at the office. Not everyone is created equally, I hate to break it to some of you. Tough guys generally play football, and as far as i’m concerned this guy is mentally a weenie, and 2 faced. Incognito may be a DB, but if he has a problem with you he will atleast tell you to your face. Nobody trusts a person that fronts like everything is good, and then talks about you behind your back. Freaking Fugazi

  10. His Dad should be ashamed of himself for his sons behavior. When the going gets tough…. Just run home to mommy

    ——————————–

    And since mommy is a workplace lawyer who extorts money from corporations, mommy will show him how to sue.

    This whole thing has been a setup for a lawsuit from the beginning

  11. Martin was texting the same $hit that Incognito was, and freaking laughing about it according to the team. How is it that you can mess with a guy then he can turn around and take that crap and turn it into bullying then sit out and get paid to do nothing. Now that’s what you call a real POS individual, and anyone actually still believing that it was bullying that caused this ex-player to walk is kidding themselves. He wasn’t playing because the FINS brought a better player in and sat martin down. He’s the conniver that took what was teammates messing with each other, and turned it into, bullying so he could sit and collect. It’s just a matter of time before we all get to see the whole story

  12. The real victim here is Tanneyhill when Martin was blocking for him. Talk about getting bullied he had guys hitting him all day long because martin was so bad. Knowing the QB could lose his life IF he stayed with the team Martin chose the safe route to keep his money and framed his teammate for some ridiculous charge.

    FREE ICOGNITO!

  13. There’s not one nfl team that’ll touch him especially once the lawsuit comes out. He did all this after losing his starting position. He couldn’t handle being picked on. Just imagine what the first defense is going to say to him. Is he going to be miked up to sue them too. He’s done never to play again.

  14. Tannehill’s sacks had a lot to do with Martin. He couldn’t block anyone. He can’t talk either for goodness sake. Please just go away. Nice suit he had on!!

  15. You guys clearly don’t understand anything about the pathology of abuse and bullying. It’s extremely common for bullying victims to stay close to the bully and try to earn their way into his or her good graces so that the bullying stops. It’s pretty common in abuse situations, especially when that situation requires close contact.

    To sit here and rag on his mom for being a lawyer and making assumptions about her just shows a childishness and a foolish adherence to stereotypes.

    And to rag on him, calling him all sorts of names and coming up with all of these silly conspiracy theories just shows a severe lack of mental capacity.

    This board is quickly becoming Meathead Central.

    For those that want to see the bully mentality, look no further than this thread.

  16. Wow all this because Martin wants to be a left tackle in the NFL but does not have the skills. Moreover he therefore wants to become a free agent. So he claims racism and bullying as his weapon to get what he wants…..Welcome to the new era of the selfish and self centered NFL football player.

  17. Onebucplace is right
    This guy is a grown man …grown men don’t get bullied
    Has anyone thought that this wimp is sueing based on what his lawyer parents …..he got moved to right tackle ,then benched , he realized he could make more money sueing than he could playing football.
    We r acting like this guy is 12 yrs old……kids get bullied not grown men……

  18. it can’t be a surprise that Martin isn’t saying anything…. that’s the smart thing to do….

    also, we don’t know squat yet about what really happened so it’s really premature to be calling people crybaby or racist…

    a few things are almost sure to happen now:
    – Martin is not likely to ever play another snap but he’ll get a big check
    – Incognito is not likely to ever play another snap but he’ll get a big check
    – the Phins are going to be wrecked
    – a bunch of stupid NFL rules will come out
    – Ireland will almost certainly get fired, finally…

  19. If you drooling NFL fans seriously believe this story is really about “bullying” you’re stupider than you sound. Martin bailed because some of his teammates were into far worse stuff than pranks and insults. He sinply didn’t wish to be implicated in whatever they’re into. Pouncey and Incognito are up to FAR worse things than “saying bad words”.

  20. I usually avoid posting on this but this has got me thinking a lot more than it usually does. I feel like a great deal of these comments are insensitive. I feel like people either judge Martin or Incognito. I realize Richie doesn’t exactly come off as sympathetic; but I doubt it’s as easy as simple as Incognito terrorizing him just for the hell of it.

    Incognito’s teammates backed him and I really don’t think that everyone in the Dolphins locker room is a terrible bully. I feel like the more plausible situation in all of this is that Incognito, was joking and went WAY too far with it. I know I’ve said some things in jest around friends that if an outsider heard them they’d think I was a terrible person too.

    Martin already has some emotional issues going on, I feel like it very well could be that Incognito meant it as a joke and Martin didn’t take it as that. By all accounts Incognito is an intense guy who doesn’t know when to stop. That makes him insensitive for sure, but I really don’t think his teammates would have his back if he’s the second coming of Hitler like he’s being portrayed.

    That’s just my 2 cents.

  21. this is a no win situation for all involved unless you sit down and really watch Martin’s play this season, kinda makes you wonder if his play was going to get him benched or cut and this is his way of making some money.

  22. “I do not intend to discuss this matter publicly at this time, . . .” Martin said

    Right, you prefer to let your lawyer release hand-picked portions of evidence with no context or clarification in an effort to smear your teammates and coaches, who, by the way, you walked out on.

  23. Let’s face it, Bullying is wrong and has no place in society, but this is pure BS! 330lb Linemen being bullied? Really? Martin is bigger than Incognito. This is just pure money grab, Lawyer fun and save face for a guy who lacks normal mental process. His Legal Team is taking full advantage of the soft PC, reality TV loving, drama addicted American media and the sad, but vast admiring audience.

    @promickey nailed it! Martin sucks… Any team that signs him gets a 68th ranked Tackle with woosy syndrome. I wish I was a Defensive Lineman across from… I would have him beat verbally before the first snap! Mark my words, this is the beginning of an all out, every team investigation. Thanks J. Martin for ruining the Dolphins, possibly the NFL and good luck getting a job in the NFL.

  24. You don’t need to punch someone in the face to get peoples respect. I truly believe the locker room didn’t know there was an issue because Martin seems like the type of person to hold in his feelings. Every person has their own line that you need to respect but if they don’t know where that line is and if you don’t tell them, they are never going to know when they cross it.

  25. randomguy9999 says:
    Nov 15, 2013 6:17 PM
    it can’t be a surprise that Martin isn’t saying anything…. that’s the smart thing to do….

    also, we don’t know squat yet about what really happened so it’s really premature to be calling people crybaby or racist…

    a few things are almost sure to happen now:
    – Martin is not likely to ever play another snap but he’ll get a big check
    – Incognito is not likely to ever play another snap but he’ll get a big check
    – the Phins are going to be wrecked
    – a bunch of stupid NFL rules will come out
    – Ireland will almost certainly get fired, finally…
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    You missed just one thing:
    -lawyers for all parties involved will get a big check

  26. frank booth says:
    Nov 15, 2013 6:07 PM
    You guys clearly don’t understand anything about the pathology of abuse and bullying. It’s extremely common for bullying victims to stay close to the bully and try to earn their way into his or her good graces so that the bullying stops. It’s pretty common in abuse situations, especially when that situation requires close contact.

    To sit here and rag on his mom for being a lawyer and making assumptions about her just shows a childishness and a foolish adherence to stereotypes.

    And to rag on him, calling him all sorts of names and coming up with all of these silly conspiracy theories just shows a severe lack of mental capacity.

    This board is quickly becoming Meathead Central.

    For those that want to see the bully mentality, look no further than this thread.

  27. frank booth says:
    Nov 15, 2013 6:07 PM
    You guys clearly don’t understand anything about the pathology of abuse and bullying. It’s extremely common for bullying victims to stay close to the bully and try to earn their way into his or her good graces so that the bullying stops. It’s pretty common in abuse situations, especially when that situation requires close contact.

    To sit here and rag on his mom for being a lawyer and making assumptions about her just shows a childishness and a foolish adherence to stereotypes.

    And to rag on him, calling him all sorts of names and coming up with all of these silly conspiracy theories just shows a severe lack of mental capacity.

    This board is quickly becoming Meathead Central.

    For those that want to see the bully mentality, look no further than this thread.

    ______________________

    This is the best comment on here. And absolutely right.

  28. Jonathan Martin doesn’t belong in the NFL because he’s too mentally soft. Just like many other players don’t belong because of other deficiencies. He’s trying this issue in the courts outside of the NFL world and gaining traction because if you or I acted in the workplace the way NFLers act in the locker room we’d be written up and fired before we could say GFY. J-Mart is running a diabolical neurotic scam. Free Incognito!

  29. Don’t know any NFL line would want Martin at this point, opposing defense would tee off on him on the field.
    Basically that is what happened where he lost his job at 3 spots on the o-line.

    His value as a 2nd year offensive lineman was incompetence and endangered the Dolphins 2nd year QB.

    There is a chance he could toughen up, work hard and succeed on an O-line somewhere, small chance any time soon.

    Could be the razzing had the opposite effect and made his play worse instead of better, Pittsburg says they have a locker room of paternal love, might be a good environment for him there.

    Movie scenario he switches to defense and channels some bobby boo-SHAY waterboy emotional issues into something that would EARN him an NFL paycheck.

  30. Let’s look at the two men and imagine their lives 10 years after they retire from the NFL. I think it’s safe to predict that Martin will have a successful life–Stanford educated and raised by 2 Harvard grads. Incognito hasn’t done much change since his younger days when he was kicked off of two college teams. I can see the police, lawyers, and courtrooms in his future.

  31. fyreandnice says:
    Nov 15, 2013 5:20 PM
    7 hours??? Good grief, what could possibly take that long? Is Ted Wells getting paid a grand per hour or something?
    _______________________________

    Probably more. I was very peripherally involved in a case in which Ted Wells was counsel of record. The fees were between $1200 and $1500 an hour.

  32. Why doesn’t he just come out and tell the truth. He is trying to collect on a huge lawsuit and this has turned into a dog and pony show. The guy is a disgrace. I hope no NFL team even looks at this farce.

  33. I’m sorry, but there are just certain situations where the rules don’t apply.

    If you’re a porn star, you can’t sue for sexual harassment.

    If you’re a boxer, you can’t sue for assault.

    If you’re an NFL player – where your job is literally to push people around – you can’t sue for being pushed around.

  34. bonniebengal says:
    Nov 15, 2013 7:31 PM

    For those that want to see the bully mentality, look no further than this thread.

    __________________________________

    Look at the government … USA is viewed as the biggest bully of the all.

  35. I do not buy into this “keep your mouth shut” mentality, and frankly, it is appalling that so many here do.

    All that does is empower the bullies and bad guys.

    Casting a little sunlight on bad behavior is always a good thing.

    As for Martin’s mom and dad, their education and careers — they made something of their lives. In my book, that’s another good thing — not something to ridicule.

  36. We dont have all the facts yet however i find it ridiculous.that Maftin said “this is the right way to handle this matter” WRONG For.starters try to.sort it out with the.man bothering you nobody knew includinv incognito u were a out to go off the deep end. Secondly u go in house and work yur way up until it is.sorted. if.that desnt work then u go the legal route. U handled this like a child jonathan martin.

  37. The Dolphin’s, not Martin, are the wimps here. Martin stood up. The Dolphin’s let Junior High testosterone run rampant in a pro locker room. Like In Tampa Bay, that does not make champions.

  38. The Frank Booth & Bonnie Bengal comments are dead on. I grew up with a bully all through high school. His best friend was someone he bullied and basically was so scared of him all he tried to do was get closer to him. It was depressing to watch. Most of all the parents.
    I won’t call people ignorant on this board, just lack of experience in this scenario because if I didn’t witness it first hand I would just assume these grown men who could work it out.

    All the texts after the racist text are showing is him communicating saying I’m your friend so please leave me alone. That is a text book scenario.
    Do you think this guy quit football to hopefully win a lawsuit? The chances of winning a lawsuit and getting a lot of money are not nearly as easy as him signing a new contract with “guaranteed” money.

    Richie has a history of not being a good person.

    People don’t change, they just get older.

  39. This whole thing is nothing more than attempted justification for flipping out and going AWOL after being twice demoted.

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