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Ahmad Brooks: Football’s watered down these days

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There wasn’t a bigger penalty flag thrown in Week 11 than the one thrown after 49ers linebacker Ahmad Brooks hit Saints quarterback Drew Brees in the fourth quarter of Sunday’s game in New Orleans.

The officials ruled Brooks hit Brees in the neck on the play, which resulted in a fumble that the 49ers recovered for what briefly seemed like icing on the cake of a road win. The penalty gave the Saints a first down, which allowed them to tie the game with a field goal and helped set the stage for their eventual 23-20 win.

The 49ers protested the call vehemently on the field, which is understandable given how costly the penalty was and how many of us remember a time when a hit like that wasn’t a penalty. That was a different time, however, and Brooks protested those changes and other things after the game.

“I didn’t hit him with my hand or my helmet,” Brooks said, via the San Francisco Chronicle. “I basically bear-hugged him. That’s just how football is played. I think this s— is b——-. Football, the way they call stuff these days, it’s watered down. It ain’t real no more. … “It was at home. It was Drew Brees. And maybe the officials were for the New Orleans Saints a little bit more than the 49ers. I think it’s B.S., man.”

Brooks isn’t the only person who feels that way, but the rules governing hits on quarterbacks aren’t going to go anywhere.

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  1. skoobyfl says: Nov 18, 2013 7:51 AM

    If Brees wasn’t child size & acting like his whole head was taken off, this would be different.

  2. cardsfann1 says: Nov 18, 2013 7:53 AM

    As a Cardinals fan I was happy with the call. As a football fan tho, it was a terrible call. The refs and the league have gone overboard with protecting the qb. If it was my team that lost because of that play, I would be very upset today…

  3. wwwmattcom says: Nov 18, 2013 7:54 AM

    BOO HOO

    Can anyone ever ‘man up’ and say, “Hey I was wrong, my perception of the rules need to change, it will”.

    This sounds like crying.

    Frankly I would prefer to watch crying. At least it shows heart, this is pathetic.

    Football isn’t a divine institution, it can die, the rules are changing to preserve it’s life force, $, if players don’t help preserve it, rules will change further and it will become more watered down or 10% of the mothers of the US aren’t going to let their kids play and the sport will die.

    Get on board. Watered down football is better than no football.

  4. ickky says: Nov 18, 2013 7:59 AM

    you mean the Saints won a game on a bad call?
    I cant believe it

  5. TheRealLogicalVoice says: Nov 18, 2013 8:00 AM

    This was one of those calls that was technically right by the letter of the rule but shouldn’t have been called. There comes a point, much like late in close basketball games, where officials have to just let the guys play unless it’s a blatant foul. Again, technically this was the right call but it could’ve gone either way and it should’ve went the other way.

    He would have a point with the refs if they didn’t let the obvious Kaepernick intentional grounding call go.

  6. humptyfratz says: Nov 18, 2013 8:01 AM

    I’m pretty sure it was unintentional, but clotheslining has been illegal for about 40 years (around the time the head slap was outlawed).

    Good call by the refs; HORRIBLE explanation.

  7. dallascarboys says: Nov 18, 2013 8:04 AM

    I abhor the 49ers, but they were robbed last night with that call.

  8. florioinitalianmeansnonsense says: Nov 18, 2013 8:04 AM

    The NFL should just start playing the game “500″ since thats all it wants: scoring without hitting. Sad.

  9. 8man says: Nov 18, 2013 8:04 AM

    Crap rule or crappy application of it. If this continues, the league will be unwatchable.

    It’s a dangerous sport, you can’t remove all the peril without removing the physicality of the game.

  10. ilovefoolsball says: Nov 18, 2013 8:04 AM

    I can’t remember this much whining after a loss. I guess the head coach’s antics have really rubbed off on his players just like the Lions’ head coach.
    It makes that handshake incident a few years ago even more funny and ironic. You’d think that Schwartz and Harbaugh would be best of friends.
    They’re perfect for each other!

    But in all seriousness are the 9ers really going to whine about that one call? They had touchdowns handed to them on a silver platter due to the turnovers. The Saints dominated the statistics and time of possession.
    The saints had 3 turnovers to the 9ers 1 and San Fran still couldn’t seal the deal.

    Krapernick isn’t that good guys, get over it.

  11. doctorrustbelt says: Nov 18, 2013 8:04 AM

    Even if Ahmad Brooks is right…. agreeing with him equals agreeing with a harbaugh…. and…. once you do that…. you are living on the dark side.

  12. bullcharger says: Nov 18, 2013 8:04 AM

    He clothes lined him in the neck and then threw him to the ground by his head. That would have been a penalty 15 years ago.

  13. primenumber19 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:06 AM

    I guess that’s why he has to take out his extra aggression on his teammates heads with liquor bottles.

  14. breesynbigeasy says: Nov 18, 2013 8:08 AM

    Crying from SF? You don’t say…..

  15. titansbro says: Nov 18, 2013 8:09 AM

    Except I’m not sure there are any rules against bear hugging the QB. It looked clean to me. Time for Saints fans to hush with the conspiracy theories now.

  16. kaeptovernon says: Nov 18, 2013 8:14 AM

    “Brooks isn’t the only person who feels that way, but the rules governing hits on quarterbacks aren’t going to go anywhere.”

    He followed the rules. He hit Drew Brees in his shoulder pads PERIOD. If onle Brees wasn’t a midget, we wouldnt even have to have the DUMB conversation.

  17. bearssuck says: Nov 18, 2013 8:16 AM

    He’s Correct. This Game Is Being Killed.

  18. touchdownroddywhite says: Nov 18, 2013 8:16 AM

    “It was at home. It was Drew Brees. And maybe the officials were for the New Orleans Saints a little bit more than the 49ers. I think it’s B.S., man.”

    Somebody sounds like they’re going to pay for this, even if it’s not for the hit.

  19. tubaplayingprof says: Nov 18, 2013 8:16 AM

    Watching a recent interview with Tony Dorsett–about his chronic traumatic encephalopathy–I have to say that football needs to change. Throughout its history, football has adjusted rules for a number of reasons, and I think that giving players a chance to live healthy lives after they turn 60 years old is a change I’m good with.

  20. revfig says: Nov 18, 2013 8:16 AM

    The rules aren’t going anywhere, but the rules should be properly enforced. Hitting a QB on his chest/shoulder pads should NEVER be a penalty, especially when getting that call wrong changes the outcome of the game.

    If defenders start to get flagged too much for legal hits, then you weaken the disincentive to not go for the QB’s head. Brooks did everything right, everything the NFL begs pass-rushers to do, and was penalized for it anyways. That’s not a good lesson to learn.

  21. SeenThisB4 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:19 AM

    With all the gifts the Saints gave the 49ers, a muffed punt reception they score 7 on? A fumbled INT into the endzone they score 7 on? An INT they score 3 on? And they’re still whining? It was a good flag, a hit to the neck and head. A flag’s a flag. Deal with it.

  22. officialmiamidolphinsspokesperson says: Nov 18, 2013 8:19 AM

    Goodell should allow the challenging of penalties. I think thats more than fair biven how many blown calls there are…but wait..how will the refs be able to control the games then??

  23. steelfan1 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:19 AM

    I honestly don’t see anything with that hit.

    I would say, if the Football committee that makes these rules go back into session in the offseason, they need to make calls like that reviewable because they do affect the game, as it did in the saints game.

  24. pudgalvin says: Nov 18, 2013 8:20 AM

    No dog in this race, but the picture posted sums it up pretty well. That’s a tough pill to swallow if you’re a Niners fan. That was a really bad call.

  25. fatguystrangler says: Nov 18, 2013 8:20 AM

    I thought it looked more like he clotheslined Brees. But, I agree with him, otherwise.

  26. winsb31 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:20 AM

    Its time to be honest, lets break out the pink flags and start playing flag football!!!!

    that was a good hard NFL tackle but we all know how the crying and whinning that would have come out of N.O. if they didnt make that homer call.
    I hate the niners more than most, but that was pure and simple a BS call, just put pink panties on the cry baby brees and send him out there again…..pathetic.

  27. janvanflac says: Nov 18, 2013 8:21 AM

    Not a fan of either team…. He’s right. It was a clean hit, and the call changed the outcome of the game. It was BS.

  28. joetoronto says: Nov 18, 2013 8:22 AM

    “I didn’t hit him with my hand or my helmet,” Brooks said, via the San Francisco Chronicle. “I basically bear-hugged him.”

    No, you clotheslined him, Ahmad.

  29. gosfvr says: Nov 18, 2013 8:22 AM

    Ahmad Brooks hit him across the chest and Brees started sliding down and sort of got his neck in the way. Can’t blame Brooks for that.
    In any case, call was made and the game lost. Time to move on.
    If anything, this highlights the need for automatic review on such game changing decisions. Sad that this call had such a major outcome on the game.

  30. flmike says: Nov 18, 2013 8:22 AM

    The NFL is becoming wussyfied, that hit was clean, maybe Breesus needs to hit puberty and grow a few more inches.

  31. djachammer says: Nov 18, 2013 8:24 AM

    He is right , he did not hit him with his Helemet or his hand in the head.
    He Clothslined him . That has been out the game for a long time.
    Just watch the highlight of the hit.
    But people going to hate.

  32. sb44champs says: Nov 18, 2013 8:25 AM

    “It was at home. It was Drew Brees. And maybe the officials were for the New Orleans Saints a little bit more than the 49ers. I think it’s B.S., man.”
    ===========================
    Yeah, and every one of us Saints fans thought it was B.S. when the 9ers knocked Pierre Thomas out cold with a helmit-to-head hit in the 2011 playoffs with NO FLAG…………!!!!

  33. saintsfan1111 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:25 AM

    He closelined Brees. LOL…he hugged him! Give me a break. Brees had blood flowing from his mouth after the play.

  34. wininer says: Nov 18, 2013 8:25 AM

    He’s right. 100% right. Colin takes those kinds of hits on a regular, whether leaving the pocket or not, because he is known for running the ball, but QB’s like Brees who aren’t known for running the ball gets a flag. Put some platforms on that midget and it wouldn’t have been.

    Pretty damn obvious he wasn’t trying to hit him in the neck or head, and it wouldn’t have been had Brees not shrunk up prepping for the hit.

  35. tryingmybest2 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:26 AM

    Can we please have football back???

  36. spicymudbugs says: Nov 18, 2013 8:28 AM

    I would bet most people whining about this call were slurping up Goodells man juice last year. He’s ruining the game. It’s easy to see

  37. bishopbengals says: Nov 18, 2013 8:28 AM

    I know that it wasn’t a stretch for that to be a penalty but he’s right. Football is soft now and plays like that shouldn’t be penalties.

  38. raiderlyfe510 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:30 AM

    49er fans be proud of your team. They won that game. The outcome was a farce. It was amazing that the refs can be so decisive about that call and in the next play take 2 minutes to call an obvious intentional grounding call On Brees. Those refs were straight up Saints homers.

    Too bad you all don’t have the QB to overcome bad refs, like Matt McGloin.

  39. daknight93 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:31 AM

    Ahmad sounds like he is an 80′s football player..football is watered down, sorry bud but this isn’t wrestling either cause that was a clear “Clothes Line” wrestling move cause the neck is part of the head…it was the “right call” by the refs…let it go and move on Ahmad, whining won’t change outcome!

  40. keepingitrealdumb says: Nov 18, 2013 8:33 AM

    brees is short as it is and he ducked at last second .. clean hit

  41. dartwick says: Nov 18, 2013 8:34 AM

    Football rules make sense.

    I understand that you dont want people getting hurt – Im cool with changing the rules to make the game safer – but do not at all understand the rules.

    What exactly did he do wrong?
    First contact was to the shoulder pad. and his forarm clearly slid into the neck afterward.

    Heck I didnt even know the neck was off limits.

    A sport has an issue when long time fans cant understand the rules.

  42. blackdb says: Nov 18, 2013 8:34 AM

    Hard to see any team lose a game like that. It was a crap call and it is a sorry way to lose a game. The NFL has gone too far in its fear of lawsuits. There was no blow to the head, no targeting, he was fighting off a blocker and I guess he should just allow the QB to throw the ball. I am very close to giving up watching to National Flag Football League.

  43. frankyvito says: Nov 18, 2013 8:35 AM

    The ambiguity of these rules are what makes these ‘explanations’ so silly. If shoulder pad is ‘head and neck’ area, then so is sternum. Depending, of course, on how hard the hit looks. So the only legitimate sack is a form tackle to the ribs, then? That is, of course, until a star qb breaks his ribs. Ridiculous.

  44. pettytom says: Nov 18, 2013 8:39 AM

    That looked more like a wrestling clothesline than a tackle.

  45. shaggyjeff says: Nov 18, 2013 8:40 AM

    Early in the season,
    The bucs Adrain clayborn hit Bree’s caused a fumble and they through a flag , the league tried to fine clayborn and it was deteimed the hit was legal… So that’s 2 games the officials gave the saints …

  46. jagmankane says: Nov 18, 2013 8:42 AM

    I am totally with Brooks on this. Last week Brees was hit with a shoulder in his lower abdomen and there was a flag throw. If your hand rubs a helmet it’s a flag. If you tackle high, it’s a flag. If you tackle low, it’s a flag.
    Where exactly can you hit a QB these days? Two hand touch style push to the chest or stomach only?
    And the defenseless receiver? You can’t hit those guys unless you’re blowing out their knees or if you allow them to turn, hold the ball firmly, and begin their run toward scoring on you.
    Oh… yeah and it seems the QBs get called differently depending on their “status” as well.

  47. laserw says: Nov 18, 2013 8:43 AM

    I guess if you hit someone in the shoulder pads it is hitting him in the neck? This was a horrendous call that changed the game.

  48. hpeters77 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:45 AM

    Had a day to cry about it and your still complaining

  49. starderup says: Nov 18, 2013 8:45 AM

    Look at the picture. The only way Brees’ neck is involved is that it connects his head and body as it always does. Ridiculous penalty. Give them the game. Why don’t you just give it to them?

  50. nfl4days says: Nov 18, 2013 8:46 AM

    I bet he wouldn’t be saying anything if Colin was hit like that. Funny how these guys always seem to have a problem with a rule unless it going for them. His giant forearm his drew brees is the neck and chest and the refs called what they saw. The jets seemed to have no problem sacking drew brees without trying to decapitate him.

  51. iberiasaint says: Nov 18, 2013 8:46 AM

    Cloth line tackle = penalty, always has been, nothing new here.

  52. melikefootball says: Nov 18, 2013 8:46 AM

    Surprise surprise. Fans have know this since Gödel started his fine attacks. Certain players get much better treatment from the officials on the field, to many rules that have to be interpreted by different crews. The rules may not be going anywhere but there is a lot more empty seats as you watch the different teams Sunday.

  53. blakeden says: Nov 18, 2013 8:48 AM

    Put skirts on all QBs…At first I thought it was a bad hit but replay shows it was clean…The refs a going to flag any hit on a QB from the middle of the chest up….

  54. ninerfan81 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:49 AM

    Brees’ neck snapped back in a whip lash motion, thats what drew the flag. The problem is if Brooks hits that guy with the same force at the legs he ends Brees’ season. Its a lose lose scenario that they’ve created, the adjustment Ahmad made was visible, he got the head gear out of the way, he’s guilty of “hitting the QB too hard”. Sucks but give that Saints defense credit, they shut our O down, that was a pathetic performance by our Offense.

  55. frankyvito says: Nov 18, 2013 8:49 AM

    If contact to the ‘neck area’ is a penalty, why are horse collars allowed in the pocket? And how does making what Brooks did illegal in any way a preventive measure against concussions? He didn’t slam him either? Its a bailout to give refs more freedom to throw more game changing flags to get more points on the board. Why even spend money on defensive players?

  56. dexterismyhero says: Nov 18, 2013 8:49 AM

    Didn’t like that call.

  57. kuranda84 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:50 AM

    Lame call! It’s really too bad these weak rules are starting to change the outcome of games. 9ers most likely would have won that game…smh. Heart goes out to 9er nation.

    -Seahawks fan

  58. calicokiller49 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:53 AM

    Call was a joke, I hate blaming the refs too , but c mon, we win that game, if they don’t call that, a huge game that we needed. I mean that changed our season, not just that game. I’ve watched it over and over, and he clearly didn’t hit him in the neck. If that wasn’t Brees or Rodgers or Brady, possibly Peyton that doesn’t get called. Kap, Wilson, cam…pretty much any other QB, those refs wouldn’t have even blink. I mean look at the pic, you can see where he had him. Brees got rocked, they threw the flag. Ask Brees if he got his neck, I bet he dances around the question.

  59. packergator says: Nov 18, 2013 8:54 AM

    Think Hyman Roth from Godfather Part II: “This is the business we’ve chosen.” I’m sure Ahmad Brooks appreciates the money he’s making in this business.

  60. faulkana says: Nov 18, 2013 8:54 AM

    it all started when they removed the kickoff return…it has been all downhill from there.

  61. azvikefan says: Nov 18, 2013 8:54 AM

    He’s right. The NFL will be flag football or two hand touch before long. They are ruining the product.

  62. chalkruz1989 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:54 AM

    What else can Ahmad Brooks do on this play? I wasn’t watching live but I heard the uproar so I wanted to see what the hoopla was about.

    After watching the hit on Drew Brees I was wondering what other ways Brooks could have accomplished his task. And, I could not think of anything.

    The game is over and the New Orleans Saints won and it shouldn’t be hard for Saints fans to admit that the call was horribly wrong.

    This issue is going to be a weekly occurrence and until the NFL realizes the damages it’s causing, nothing will change.

    The game is in fact a shell of itself and down the road you will see a fading existence of the NFL.

  63. mattsffrd says: Nov 18, 2013 8:55 AM

    That was NOT a penalty. It was a clean hit. Heaven forbid you touch one of the golden boy QBs.

  64. swordfysh912 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:56 AM

    It’s Brooks’ fault Brees is a midget…smdh

  65. szwhtsup123 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:56 AM

    Whiners and their fans will always whine – but in this case he’s right, and not just about the call. Lawyers and the liberal media will continue to drown football – by the next CBA nobody will care about the game, as football will be comparable to watching soccer, golf or baseball. Enjoy it now folks…….

  66. packerman1968 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:57 AM

    I think waterer down is a good word. Saw the hit, thought the penalty was knee jerk by the officials.

    They are afraid not to call it. Its a shame, I find my self watch less and less football. Its become so boring. I do not want to see anyone get hurt. But I want to see them play.

  67. bennyb82 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:57 AM

    He did hit his neck but a couple years ago this probably would’ve been called a textbook tackle. Although a couple years before that, a textbook probably would have told you to make sure you hit part of the QB’s helmet too.

  68. deathonwings410 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:58 AM

    He’s right. It’s bordering on absurd–the number of stupid “personal fouls” that are called every week.

  69. burrito12 says: Nov 18, 2013 8:59 AM

    I could care less about the niners, but I agree , that was a bs call and the niners got robbed.

  70. Tyler says: Nov 18, 2013 9:01 AM

    He is right about it being watered down.

    RIP Jacked Up segments

  71. fafafuey says: Nov 18, 2013 9:01 AM

    Not a fan of either team. Not sure if the call was correct or not but in my opinion it shouldn’t have been a penalty.

  72. azarkhan says: Nov 18, 2013 9:02 AM

    Brooks is absolutely right. Football will begin to lose popularity when people begin to realize how phony it is.

  73. willkerns says: Nov 18, 2013 9:02 AM

    Maybe Brooks should get his gun out?

  74. finsupbtchs says: Nov 18, 2013 9:03 AM

    Not a niners or saints fan but I couldn’t agree more, the call was BS. Although Brooks should go back to elementary school to learn English.

  75. sf49ers4 says: Nov 18, 2013 9:05 AM

    Horrible call. Watch the replay and you can see all of Bree’d neck. It was never hit.

  76. hanifmiller says: Nov 18, 2013 9:08 AM

    I would hate to make these games longer or even more reliant on replay but the objective of replay is getting the call right and at some point some of these “penalties” have to be reviewable. This was a game changer.

  77. goodolebaghead says: Nov 18, 2013 9:09 AM

    It wasn’t the initial contact, it was how he slung him to the ground by his throat. That’s a clothesline, and if Lofton had done it to Kaep, the 49ers would be crying even harder.

  78. vikings1976 says: Nov 18, 2013 9:11 AM

    Ahmad…..you’re just figuring out the refs are for the Saints at home? Did you watch the 09 NFC championship game?

  79. woodworthbayoutiger says: Nov 18, 2013 9:12 AM

    There’s also no whining in football! Get the next two stops or make a first down and you win.

    Good thing that wasn’t a hit Gallette put on Kaepernick or we’d have heard all the Bounty hit whining from Niners fans.

  80. absolutsaints says: Nov 18, 2013 9:13 AM

    Sour Grapes? SAINTS WIN! WHO DAT?!!!

  81. bigassbiscuit says: Nov 18, 2013 9:15 AM

    “but the rules governing hits on quarterbacks aren’t going to go anywhere.”

    While this seems to be unfortunately true, the flip side to it is, the fans might/will decide to take their money and interest in the NFL “product” elsewhere.

    Safety of the players is very important, but so is the integrity of the game.

  82. frk49rs says: Nov 18, 2013 9:15 AM

    that call was b.S.it was clean it was just too close for the officials. Now I wish that they would have called all the pass interference as closely. the Saints DBs we’re mugging the wide receivers last night.With all the no calls and the penalty at the end the refs did affect the outcome of that game. I normally give the refs a bye when they screw up but last night was atrocious.
    but the Niners do need to play better.

  83. blackfootkiller says: Nov 18, 2013 9:16 AM

    Whiners…

  84. stoopidfool says: Nov 18, 2013 9:17 AM

    except that they would have thrown a flag for that 20 years ago

  85. rhamrhoddy says: Nov 18, 2013 9:21 AM

    That was a huge flag. I heard someone on a talkshow suggest automatic booth reviews on helmet to helmet type hits. Keep the review quick. Just make sure the call doesn’t end up being blatantly wrong because the penalty can have a major impact on the game.

    On this play, I don’t think there should’ve been a flag. It was a very hard tackle that looked dangerous but maybe in this day and age, if it’s close enough to the head, it will get a call. I don’t like football nearly as much in this day and age.

  86. aces79 says: Nov 18, 2013 9:23 AM

    100% Brooks is Right

  87. TheodoreJr says: Nov 18, 2013 9:24 AM

    Second time this year. Brees got his ball back too after the Bucs gave him a boo boo.

  88. dublindemonszfl says: Nov 18, 2013 9:24 AM

    Drew Breeze is flabbergasted and in need of an explanation. bad call!

  89. explosionsauce says: Nov 18, 2013 9:24 AM

    I don’t see how anyone seeing the replay can agree with that call. Just because Brees took such a shot it whipped his neck shouldn’t be grounds to give them the game. Replay clearly shows he hit him in the shoulder. Just a horribly blown call which PFT keeps defending. Clean hit.

  90. townbizz98 says: Nov 18, 2013 9:25 AM

    I agree the football these days match the generation where everything is relative and nothing is absolute; flimsy if you will…I remember watching JOE Montana and Steve Young, Jim Kelly getting blasted this is not football this is Moist wet and pink and starting to smell fishy…yeah I said it it’s Pus@y…bad Pus@y at that. I think football fans should boycott this shiznit…or if they wanna Keep calling hard hits personal fouls then it should be able to be reviewed e.g; After reviewing the play there was no personal foul the quarter back ducked at the last moment 49ers ball 1st down!!!!! …p.s FiZnuck Seattle fans…I hope your kids get bullied by 49er kid fans all across America…national whoop a Seahawk ass day Lol! Lets start the movement

  91. officialgame says: Nov 18, 2013 9:26 AM

    Brook’s is right and I am not a fan of either team. How was the hit against the rule?

  92. bkostela says: Nov 18, 2013 9:27 AM

    “i basically clotheslined him” is more accurate

  93. mrsteelcity says: Nov 18, 2013 9:28 AM

    They might as well put a rubber binky in brees mouth. You can’t hit his knees. Now you can’t hit a 5’9 qb in the shoulders. Pathetic.

  94. timmmah10 says: Nov 18, 2013 9:28 AM

    QBs are money makers for the NFL. But they get paid more also. They should be treated like any other player on the field. Brooks is going to be fined by the league for his comments most likely, but they need to be said.

  95. cappa662 says: Nov 18, 2013 9:28 AM

    I saw nothing wrong with that play at all. It was a big hit on a QB. He didn’t clothes line or even go at Brees’ neck. The NFL is too soft.

  96. nflrefsfix says: Nov 18, 2013 9:29 AM

    Now he will get fined but the crooked ref won’t!!!!

  97. kenstabler says: Nov 18, 2013 9:31 AM

    It’s only gonna get worse as long as the Competition Committee is inventing new rules to change the game on a monthly basis. You never know what critical play is going to get reversed from some stupid obscure rule. The Ref’s run the show now, and can control winners and losers in games, not the players.

  98. Lee Hernly says: Nov 18, 2013 9:31 AM

    Brees had blood dripping from his mouth after the hit.

  99. Dolphins Nation says: Nov 18, 2013 9:32 AM

    Thats the type of call is ruining the game of football.

  100. justintuckrule says: Nov 18, 2013 9:34 AM

    The league blows. Only a matter of time now before the hard core fan stops watching. Like all fads…fantasy will die off too

  101. mavajo says: Nov 18, 2013 9:34 AM

    Lol whatever. He nearly decapitated Brees. When I watched it in slo-mo, I just waited for Brees’ head to pop off.

    The problem is that these clowns still don’t understand the rules. He forcibly hit him in the head/neck area. End of story. Everything else is just noise.

  102. lionsdraftguy says: Nov 18, 2013 9:35 AM

    Though I hate the 49ers, the Saints are definitely one of the NFL’s most favored teams. Probably second to the Packers, who are by far the most favored.

    I remember reading an article on the Lions vs Saints game a couple years ago, and the main picture under the headline was the Saints left tackle CLEARLY holding Vanden Bosch. But of course, they dont call that on the Saints.

    The NFL is pathetic. Refs who look for guys to flag rather than just calling the game the way it should be called. QBs, like Rodgers especially, getting roughing the passer calls because hes from GB….etc…

    Pretty lame.

    Also, Jim Harbaugh is still a tool and UofM football sucks.

  103. gunn3r11 says: Nov 18, 2013 9:36 AM

    I agree with Brooks. The irony is that Brees was a beneficiary of so many illegal hits to the opposing team QBs throughout the Bounty-gate era.

    This is the new reality. We might as well put red mesh shirts on the QB. Or better yet, everyone should wear flags or make it two-hand touch. And let the girls play while we’re at it.

  104. crapsandviche says: Nov 18, 2013 9:36 AM

    If it was Brett Farve getting drilled in the knees and head after he threw the ball he wouldn’t get a penalty called for it in the Superdome. #FACT Saints get ‘special’ treatment because of Brees, and Hurricanes of course. #FACT

  105. jeffroid says: Nov 18, 2013 9:36 AM

    Niner fans and Saints haters are doing some serious crying about that call. There is a gif floating around the message boards that shows Brooks initial hit across the chest. What they DON’T show is what happens after that, where Brooks grabs Brees’ facemask and twists his head around sideways as they are going to the ground.

    That call didn’t cost the Niners the game anyway. As usual, it was one of many questionable calls.

    Check the stats. And anyone who watched the game will agree that the Saints were better and tried mightily to give that game away. If they are objective, that is.

  106. kgbdk says: Nov 18, 2013 9:38 AM

    Brooks was trying to helmet to helmet contact, didn’t launch himself using his shoulder, and basically grabbed Brees as high as he could. Let’s not forget that Brees could also still throw the ball, so it’s a linebackers’ instinct to put their hands up to tip or block a pass. What else was he supposed to do? He didn’t set out to hurt Brees. People are going to be watching whether or not the NFL fines Brooks. Well, let me tell ya, the NFL can’t afford not to fine Brooks because they would be quietly admitting that they made a mistake. So I would expect to see a fine just to save face, even though it was some serious BS.

  107. sbc85 says: Nov 18, 2013 9:39 AM

    The picture shows pretty clearly that it was a clothesline more than a bear hug. As for the refs, they inevitably suck for everyone. The 49ers got a gift when the refs didn’t call Corey White down by contact on the interception he stupidly fumbled out of the endzone. Mike Pereira said he would have called him down there. The teams or players who then go and whine about the refs that everyone has to deal with just sound like sore losers.

  108. conceptsbykjr says: Nov 18, 2013 9:40 AM

    He did hit him in the chest, he just whiplashed. And if we’re gonna call whiplash as unnecessary roughness then almost every tackle is penalty.

    I get the idea behind the rule changes but it wouldn’t be an issue if they weren’t so inconsistent.

  109. saintsly says: Nov 18, 2013 9:40 AM

    I don’t know the answer either but………………
    A win is a win is A WIN!!!!

  110. 49erstim says: Nov 18, 2013 9:41 AM

    After watching a ton of football yesterday I’ve come to the conclusion that if you hit one of the big 4 (Peyton, Brees, Rodgers, Brady) you’re very likely to be penalized and if you hit the younger mobile QBs (Kaep, Cam, RG3, Wilson) even on plays where they are obviously passing from the pocket you probably won’t be flagged. The problem with the referees is consistency. It has become obvious that they want to protect certain guys. Maybe the young guys I listed will make the other list someday. The problem is there should only be ONE list. Not that I even agree with the flag football nature of hitting QBs anyway.

  111. 208niner says: Nov 18, 2013 9:42 AM

    you’re right…the rules on hitting QBs aren’t going anywhere. ..but the hit WAS WITHIN THE RULES …his neck wasn’t touched and therefore a penalty should have NOT have been called…Brooks is right this is BS..would have never been called on a low profile QB

  112. packergator says: Nov 18, 2013 9:42 AM

    Like it or not, risking injury to QBs in a passing league isn’t good business. Period.

  113. redskins1961 says: Nov 18, 2013 9:43 AM

    NFL: Non Full Contact League. Goodell and whinny players are ruining it. Gotta be tough for guys like Ditka, Sam Huff, etc. watching it go soft.

  114. rikker12 says: Nov 18, 2013 9:48 AM

    Didn’t Clay Mathews hit kaepernick in the same place? I know the hit by Mathews was late out of bounds, but didn’t all the players and fans complain about where Mathews hit him? … It’s called football Karma.
    Also, I think Harbaugh needs a timeout.. He acts like a 12 year old kid that didn’t get what he wanted for christmas.
    Baby’s don’t win in the NFL. Show some class Harbaugh.

  115. mezanine10 says: Nov 18, 2013 9:49 AM

    This is what happens when lawyers get involved. Everyone is afraid of getting sued now so all these rules are in effect. 20 years from now, the ACL/MCL victims will sue the NFL when former players can’t walk right.

  116. breesynbigeasy says: Nov 18, 2013 9:50 AM

    Mike Pereira’s take…..

    “Clearly a foul in New Orleans – That was a blow to the neck”.

    What does this guy know about rules??

  117. jvibottomline says: Nov 18, 2013 9:51 AM

    The NFL is nothing more than a Passing Camp now trying to break records that were set when the game actually involved contact. NONE of these passing yardage, receiving yardage, touchdowns are impressive because of calls like that yesterday. The NFL can’t have defenses make plays to win games, oh my that doesn’t sell tickets.

  118. saints25 says: Nov 18, 2013 9:52 AM

    Here’s the official rule for Brooks-the-whiner. Rule 12 Player Conduct Section 2 Article 9 It is a foul if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture. (a) Players in a defenseless posture are: (7) A quarterback at any time after a change of possession(b) Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is: (1) Forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the defenseless player by encircling or grasping him.

  119. charleypattonsguitar says: Nov 18, 2013 9:53 AM

    crapsandviche says:
    Nov 18, 2013 9:36 AM
    If it was Brett Farve getting drilled in the knees and head after he threw the ball he wouldn’t get a penalty called for it in the Superdome. #FACT Saints get ‘special’ treatment because of Brees, and Hurricanes of course. #FACT

    It is sad that you have never moved on…and it is sad that Favre’s named continually gets misspelled…and it is sad that you still find humor in human tragedies like hurricanes. Oh, and you can hash-tag FACT on all the above (that’s so clever and witty).

  120. sonoco says: Nov 18, 2013 9:55 AM

    The call was so obvious and “absolutely correct” that it would have been “absolutely a non-story” had the ref kept the flag in his pocket.

  121. waxthat says: Nov 18, 2013 9:56 AM

    Robbed. Niners will be like the Packers, Giants and Ravens of recent years. Wait and see.

  122. officialgame says: Nov 18, 2013 9:58 AM

    Saints must have had a bounty on the ref.

  123. sbc85 says: Nov 18, 2013 9:58 AM

    I agree with Brooks. The irony is that Brees was a beneficiary of so many illegal hits to the opposing team QBs throughout the Bounty-gate era.
    ==========

    Seriously? LA Times already showed that Saints had less penalties for that than most of the teams in the league during the the time of “BountyGate.” Google it. Also, that 49ers game with the famous Gregg Williams speech? Not one penalty. The 49ers hurt more of our players in that game if anything (Pierre Thomas anyone?).

    Speaking of BountyGate, how anyone on here can still cry “Katrina!” and claim the league favors the Saints after all the punishment the team got last year for a pay for performance system that other teams have done is beyond me. Oh and also classless.

  124. flexx91 says: Nov 18, 2013 9:59 AM

    I remember reading an article on the Lions vs Saints game a couple years ago, and the main picture under the headline was the Saints left tackle CLEARLY holding Vanden Bosch. But of course, they dont call that on the Saints
    __________________________________

    I remember the Saints beating the Lions by 20 points. So what’s your point?

  125. kaeptovernon says: Nov 18, 2013 10:01 AM

    There are really humans with brains inside their heads saying this was a good penalty????

    HAHAHAHAHA

  126. flexx91 says: Nov 18, 2013 10:02 AM

    Whine your inept offense in the final seven minutes and getting three turnovers with two as unforced “gifts” which lead to 17 points and still losing.

  127. raiderlyfe510 says: Nov 18, 2013 10:06 AM

    It’s just terrible for the NFL. That could have been one of the great games and great plays of the 2013 season. Now, because of that call, the value of that game is diminished and the glory and greatness of that clash if titans is replace by infamy and the buffoonery of incompetent refs.

    Just like the Tuck Rule in 2001. Charles Woodson would have made one the greatest plays in playoff history, and that would have been one of the greatest games. But instead of the glory and greatness that should have been attributed to that game..it’s just surround by the infamy and buffoonery of a dumb old ref.

  128. ijon76 says: Nov 18, 2013 10:11 AM

    Quit whining 9er fans.

    It’s funny that the most aggressive fans are also the biggest whiners.

    Burgundy and gold poofters.

    Go Raiders

  129. cornerstone2001 says: Nov 18, 2013 10:15 AM

    You idiots dont know what a “clothesline” hit is. It is a hit to the NECK. Bress was clearly hit in the CHEST.

  130. 87hollywoodhorn says: Nov 18, 2013 10:18 AM

    crybaby culture permeates the 49ers organization from the coach down. theyre not going to get a superbowl

  131. Mikey says: Nov 18, 2013 10:19 AM

    Blame the Refs all you want, but it wont matter. Refs officiate and players play. Even as a Saints fan I thought the call was terrible, but there are terrible calls all the time (intentional grounding anyone?). All I know is this, the Refs didn’t tackle Darren Sproles AFTER he caught a fair catch to set up the Saints’ game-winning possession. The 9ers might feel they got robbed, but they made some horrible plays in that game.

  132. sbc85 says: Nov 18, 2013 10:21 AM

    cardsfann1 says:
    Nov 18, 2013 7:53 AM
    As a Cardinals fan I was happy with the call. As a football fan tho, it was a terrible call. The refs and the league have gone overboard with protecting the qb. If it was my team that lost because of that play, I would be very upset today…

    =====

    The 49ers did not lose just because of that play. The penalty happened on the Saints’ game-tying field goal drive. After they tied the game, the 49ers got the ball again – they could have gone down and got a field goal themselves to retake the lead, they could have gone and gotten a TD to make it really hard on the Saints to come back. They didn’t. They went three and out and gave the ball back to the Saints, and let them go down and get in field goal range with less than 2 minutes to go. This was one of several calls by the refs that could have gone either way, including the Corey White down by contact INT or the Brees/Kaepernick intentional (or non) grounding calls. This is only the story because the 49ers lost and they can’t take responsibility for the rest of the game, a game they shouldn’t even have been competitive in in the first place if not for the Saints making stupid, un-forced mistakes.

    This is just a sorry attitude from a team who was only tied after this call and had another opportunity to get the win themselves, or send the game to overtime. They didn’t do it. Deal with it.

  133. ripster65 says: Nov 18, 2013 10:25 AM

    sb44champs says:
    Nov 18, 2013 8:25 AM
    “It was at home. It was Drew Brees. And maybe the officials were for the New Orleans Saints a little bit more than the 49ers. I think it’s B.S., man.”
    ===========================
    Yeah, and every one of us Saints fans thought it was B.S. when the 9ers knocked Pierre Thomas out cold with a helmit-to-head hit in the 2011 playoffs with NO FLAG…………!!!!
    ————————————–
    ————————————–
    Sounds like the Saints don’t like being hit. They’re in the wrong game then. WAAAAA!!!!!!!

  134. tovar176 says: Nov 18, 2013 10:27 AM

    I believe I was watching a NFL Football game, they get paid to get hit, after they get hit they get up and ask the team if they need to do it again…no clothesline, no head shot, no neck shot, no blood flowing from his mouth…it is Bree’s fault for not getting rid if the ball, not knowing he was going to get hit in the NFL, and after it is all said and done Bree’s gets to go home to his million dollar home, overpaid docs, and think about his nice retirement in the future while smoking a fat cigar…nobody needs to feel sorry for these guys, nobody, cause they don’t care about us…and if anybody wants to sue the NFL for disability or wrong doing, they are stupid…it’s football Cowboy Up, you little girls….Go Cowboys…

  135. scchamil says: Nov 18, 2013 10:31 AM

    I understand protecting the QBs – they are the big $ stars of the NFL. They are almost every team’s prized investment. However, I’m not sure it’s fair to lean so heavily on the safety excuse for all these penalties. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that almost all the CTE cases so far have been Linebackers, running backs, OL and DL and even WRs who are taking contact on most plays. Even with the highly publicized QB concussion cases – Aikman and Young – those guys aren’t exactly struggling with life after football. I guess my point is – the QB is and always will be well taken care of by the rules for many reasons – most of them practical/financial. No need to expand the rules so far that we get garbage interpretations like this call… and no need to hide behind concussions as the reason for these QB rules (they’re the most protected non -specialist on the field). Especially not when we still invite LBs and running backs to square and rattle helmets most plays.

  136. sbc85 says: Nov 18, 2013 10:32 AM

    ripster65 says:
    Sounds like the Saints don’t like being hit. They’re in the wrong game then. WAAAAA!!!!!!!
    =====

    Oh the irony. The difference between the Saints and the 49ers as teams is that the Saints players and coach don’t whine to the media after a tough loss about the refs and those mean guys on the other team. Is Harbaugh still trying to pick a fight with Clay Matthews? I’d love to see it.

  137. hawkstradamus says: Nov 18, 2013 10:36 AM

    All this talk of the nfl turning into two hand touch or flag football is bs. I’ve seen people injured playing 2Ht, it’s just too dangerous. In the future all games will be simulated on madden. And no one will care about the final score as fantasy football is overtaking real football.

  138. Mr.Harper says: Nov 18, 2013 10:37 AM

    There must come a point where penalties are reviewed ….. Especially if it directly impacts the outcome of the game.

  139. sclement65 says: Nov 18, 2013 10:42 AM

    Ahmad…..you’re just figuring out the refs are for the Saints at home? Did you watch the 09 NFC championship game?

    Do you people think before you post. The league destroyed our season last year. Suspended our Coach, GM and players. If they favor us, I’d hate to see if the hated us. IDIOTS.

  140. glynners says: Nov 18, 2013 10:42 AM

    Wherever his arm is hitting, Brooks shoulder pad goes into Brees’ head. Thats a flag all day everyday. A finger tap on the head is a flag, its BS but all defenders know the rules. Brooks should have kept his cool and aimed lower to make sure there was no chance of a flag, the sack was there for the taking without the exaggerated leap

  141. seatownballers says: Nov 18, 2013 10:43 AM

    Clean hit

  142. dvdman123 says: Nov 18, 2013 10:44 AM

    I guess many of you crying Niner fans forgot about the the OBVIOUS intentional grounding call that was not made on Kapernick in his own end zone. Come on now, just get over it. The Niners had no business being in that game to begin with. The Saints were in the Christmas spirit yesterday and the Niners still couldn’t win.

  143. aljack88 says: Nov 18, 2013 10:51 AM

    The era of the +6′ 4″ QB is over. Too much target area from mid thigh to chest. A 5’10″ QB would have a target of about 30″; those giant QBs zones must be at least 12″ bigger. The smaller the target, the greater the potential for a free 1st down + 15 yards.

    Somewhere, Doug Flutie is saying he can still play.

  144. cursedvikings1998 says: Nov 18, 2013 11:03 AM

    1. Ahmad Brooks also dragged Brees down by the helmet, which no one apparently saw, except me.
    2. Brooks’ shoulder CLEARLY made contact with not only Brees’ neck, but also his head. It was clear.
    3. It was a clothesline tackle, which is forbidden.

    Jim Harbaugh has created a culture of whining in San Francisco. I’m an elementary school teacher and one of my biggest rules is No Whining!

  145. keylimelight says: Nov 18, 2013 11:06 AM

    Brooks had Drew on that play. Had he kept his right arm straight, and taken him down, we’d be talking about a key sack instead of a penalty.

    Techniques can change without sacrificing ferocity.

  146. neilnixon says: Nov 18, 2013 11:06 AM

    For those complaining about the call on Brooks’ sack, what exactly is that you DON’T understand about the rule that you can’t hit the quarterback in the head or neck???? You may not like the rule; you may think it’s all party of the sissyfication of pro football, but it’s patently obvious that Brooks hit the quarterback in the neck, whether it’s because Brees is short, ducked or whatever doesn’t matter. Are you arguing that you don’t like the rule??. ….fine. But are you really saying that he didn’t hit the quarterback in the neck? If so, get some glasses.

    Actually, Brooks “clotheslined” Brees and that has been outlawed in the NFL since the late 1970s after Darryl Stingley was leveled and paralyzed by Jack Tatum.

    For bitter 49ers fans who think this call cost them the game, consider that the Saints gift-wrapped and handed San Francisco 17 points on turnovers and gained twice as many yards in total offense in the game, and also had an interception returned for an apparent touchdown nullfied on a proper touchback call. In short, the better team won.

  147. 1rockyracoon says: Nov 18, 2013 11:11 AM

    Kaepernick is the only thing watered down. Do the 49′ers think there’s a rule against QBs throwing for over 175 yards? Talk about coming back down to Earth. He was sensational last season because teams were trying to figure him out. Looks like the league has him figured out. I guess Montana’s records are safe. He may turn out to be an ok QB, but that’s a far drop from what he showed last year. Kaepernick, meet mediocracy; mediocracy meet Kaepernick.

  148. akasaintsbaby says: Nov 18, 2013 11:14 AM

    9′ers DID NOT lose the game on this play. Saints still had to get into fg range to tie the game, they did. 9′ers got the ball back with the game tied and had a chance to drive into fg range to win. They did not make a first down and punted. Brees drove the field to win with a fg.

    Nobody is crying about the no call safety when Kapernick was NOT outside the right hash and threw it away to avoid the safety. I guess that no call was ok, lol.

  149. faninninerland says: Nov 18, 2013 11:16 AM

    whine on niner fan. clothes-lining hasn’t been legal in the nfl for some time.

  150. shiftyshellshocked says: Nov 18, 2013 11:24 AM

    Can’t even touch these cream puffs anymore. No wonder they throw for five thousand yards a year. Bree’s would have gotten killed in the eighty’s and ninety’s. I miss real football.

  151. djkeitse22 says: Nov 18, 2013 11:26 AM

    For all of the comments on here assuming the Saints won this game because of this call, your wrong. There were six minutes left in the game, the Saints down by 3. But WAIT! the 49ers got the ball back after the subsequent penalty followed by a tying field goal, and Kapernick couldn’t get a pass off, so even if the 49ers would have gotten the fumble the game wasn’t over. If anything, I believe the hit affected Brees more than anyone knew, and could have been used to the 49ers advantage. The 49ers had more than 4 minutes to go back down and kick a game winning field goal, but couldn’t. The close line penalty had nothing to do with this Kapernick’s SHORTCOMINGS! KAPERNICK STINKS!

  152. phx9erfan says: Nov 18, 2013 11:30 AM

    Saints fans since when is forcing turn overs a gift? Shut up already! It was a bad call watch the replay he NEVER touched his neck. If he would have hit him in the neck Brees would not have gotten up after the play. His mouth was bleeding from the force of the hit. Clothlined? please, Brook’s arm is across his chest just look at the picture posted on this article. his elbow is still below his neck.

    Stop crying about the non call on Kaep it wouldn’t have been a safety he wasn’t in the endzone. Do you people even watch the games or just hear about em and comment to sound like men.

  153. myeaglescantwin says: Nov 18, 2013 11:31 AM

    the game of football is being bastardized by individuals that control the league, but have never played a down of football in their life.

    I am all for players’ safety, but what we are seeing in the modern NFL is a joke.
    Deacon Jones, one of the games all time greats, wouldn’t be able to play this game. Not because of skill, but because the game is different from what it was.

    The fact is, Football used to be the most important thing in the NFL.. Now, money is the most important thing, and the NFL is just an avenue to get it.

  154. ratsfoiledagain says: Nov 18, 2013 11:35 AM

    Was it a bad call? Yes.

    Did the 9ers get a possession after that Saints possession? Yes

    Did the 9ers score on that possession? No.

    The 9ers could have a made a statement by scoring a TD, or at least FG on their last possession to put a little pressure on the Saints, but they didn’t.

    Still, it was a bad call.

  155. adderal says: Nov 18, 2013 11:38 AM

    The Saints still had to drive the field after that play and SF still had 2 mins to win the game after. Its a 50/50 call and may not have been called in playoffs but it is what it is. I was pretty confident NO would drive the field in that time allowed and had no faith SF would do the same in the 2 min drill and that sucks!

  156. kaeptovernon says: Nov 18, 2013 11:38 AM

    “Nobody is crying about the no call safety when Kapernick was NOT outside the right hash and threw it away to avoid the safety. I guess that no call was ok, lol”

    He doesn’t have to be outside the hash genius. He has to be outside where the tackle lines up and was.

  157. kingpel says: Nov 18, 2013 11:53 AM

    Crack down on HGH and you wouldn’t have to worry about player safety as much. No one wants to acknowledge this. Why?

  158. onebucplace says: Nov 18, 2013 11:58 AM

    Another terrible awful call by the piece of garbage in the zebra outfits that are protected by their union. Bring back the replacements, at least they can be fired.

  159. sportnorcal says: Nov 18, 2013 11:58 AM

    He’s right, it was a crappy call and is not a very good direction the NFL is headed.

    Also he doesn’t whine about it costing the game or anything so calm down, he is voicing his displeasure with the CALL and how hard it is to tackle a QB these days.

  160. shlort says: Nov 18, 2013 12:04 PM

    Brooks needs to learn how to make a clean hit on the QB. He said “I didn’t hit him with my hand or my helmet”, and the picture shows his hands on the helmet.

    The NFLcan’t let there be an open season on QBs. QBs are the most important part of football. If you say “Let them hit QBs, they are playing football”, you should realize that the games would suck if that all there was playing the QB position is guys that toss 3 or 4 picks a game and have completion percentages in the 30s.

    I don’t know why anyone would want QBs put in a position to be injured. it is ridiculous that some people can’t see there is already a shortage of talent at that position in the league, yet they want to see teams using 3 or 4 QBs per year as a new standard.

  161. nispikers says: Nov 18, 2013 12:09 PM

    All I have to say is this: If the hit would have been on Kapernick by the Saints, the 49ers would have been whining about it not being called. They would have demanded that the league look into it and fine the Saint defensive player.

  162. lionsdraftguy says: Nov 18, 2013 12:13 PM

    I dont know which is more overrated, Kaepernick or UofM football.

  163. uplate5301 says: Nov 18, 2013 12:14 PM

    It was a bad call. But the call that resulted in the interception being ruled a touchback when the ball went through the end zone was also a bad call (The defender was down by contact at the point of interception….. there just wasn’t enough visual evidence to overturn the ruling on the field). Bad calls happen…. sometimes you get them… sometimes the other team does.

    In the larger scheme of things, this loss probably didn’t make all that much difference. The Seahawks are clearly a better team than the Niners this year, and the Niners are going into the playoffs as a wild card. They played right with the Saints, who are one of the two best teams in the NFC, despite not having an offense to speak-of (ranked 29th overall). They have 6 games to pick that up, and once in the playoffs, anything can happen.

  164. sbc85 says: Nov 18, 2013 12:16 PM

    phx9erfan says:
    Nov 18, 2013 11:30 AM
    Saints fans since when is forcing turn overs a gift? Shut up already!
    ====

    No one caused Lance Moore or Corey White to fumble. They did it untouched. Don’t be delusional.

  165. uplate5301 says: Nov 18, 2013 12:20 PM

    Though I fully understand Brooks’ sentiments, he should have been more careful in how he expressed them. He can say it was a bad call, and he can say the league is getting too restrictive…. no sweat. But when he publicly implies the ref’s favored the home team, he is crossing a line the NFL has set up. It will probably cost him a ten thousand dollar fine. The NFL is exceedingly intolerant on that sort of thing.

    Political correctness is hard at work chewing into the NFL along with the rest of our society.

  166. raiderlyfe510 says: Nov 18, 2013 12:23 PM

    Bottom line….you don’t make that call at that point of the game. You don’t take away the sack , and you don’t give the Saints 15 yards. You let the great football play DECIDE THE GAME…and you fine Ahmad Brooks.

    The game should be decided by skill.. Not by legislation of a rule that’s designed to Protect the league from lawsuits. The Ref’s a idiot. Plain and simple.

  167. nowillrepeat says: Nov 18, 2013 12:25 PM

    If not for a muffed punt, and fumbled pick six (neither of which the niners had anything to do with), this game isnt even close.

    Saints dominated in every meaningful statistic other than turnovers.

  168. hor2012 says: Nov 18, 2013 12:31 PM

    I’m a life long Saints fan so all of you know where I stand. But, for a moment let’s say that the call wasn’t made and the niner’s got the ball. I think that there was still over 3:00 minutes to play in the game. So, the assumtion that we’re making is that the niner’s would have been able to run out the last 3:00 minutes of the clock. Under normal circumstances I would say that was possible. But, for whatever reason the niner’s running game wasn’t clicking last night. So, I don’t think they would have run out the last few minutes of the game anyway. Even if they got a field goal out of the turnover we would have just been down by six with a chance to win it at home. Also, the turn over just tied the game it didn’t give us the lead and the niner’s had a chance to go down and win it. They went three and out. Was it a bad call. I would say it was close but for all of you that say that it was just a horrific call- in all honesty you’re saying to me the blood on Breez chin got there because his head hit the turf hard. We won the game- would I have rathered us win without the call yes. But, I’m not going to say that the only reason we won was because of that call. In fact if we don’t turn the ball over three times that call would have been relevent because you would have been down by fourteen at least

  169. dasmol says: Nov 18, 2013 12:34 PM

    Horrible call. The connected at their right shoulder pads, before Brooks flung Brees down. The NFL is going overboard trying to protect the big money QBs. It’s getting ridiculous and openly changing games.

  170. allamericanahole says: Nov 18, 2013 12:38 PM

    The funniest thing about the niners fans crying about this play is that the quarterback safety rules are basically the way they are because of Steve young and the way his career ended…at the end of the day the Saints physically dominated the game that was the only significant hit they had on brees the whole game without the muffled punt and the fumbled interception it’s a 30-7 ball game I’ll give u the ahmad Brooks interception that’s the only play the niners made on their own the whole game…anyone who thinks the niners deserved that win doesn’t know football

  171. canedaddy says: Nov 18, 2013 12:48 PM

    I don’t know which was worse, this one or the call on Dumervil for what amounted to a two-hand-touch tap on McCown in the Bears-Ravens game. Very costly.

  172. allamericanahole says: Nov 18, 2013 12:51 PM

    And let’s not act like the game would have been over had they got the sack fumble it was still 4 minutes left and the niners offense was moving back wards the whole 4th quarter so most likely the Saints would have got the ball back tied it up because they moved the ball well the whole game and won it in overtime…niners fans should be more worried that they have Aaron Brooks at QB wearing a kapernot jersey lol

  173. paythevig says: Nov 18, 2013 12:52 PM

    After a night to stew about it, i think enough time has passed for me to muster up the following comments…

    Good Game, Saints. Looks like we’ve got a nice little rivalry going.

    There were bad calls and breaks for both teams, and both teams were able to take advantage of them. If this scenario played out in the first quarter, I don’t think this would be among PFT’s most highly commented article this morning/afternoon. It was a crazy game going right down to the wire.

    Both Defenses played great, and your offense made more plays than ours. I hate losing like anyone fan here, but there’s no shame in losing to the Saints on the road.

    Nothing we can do but look towards Washington on monday night. If our paths cross again – it should be another classic.

    Good win fellas.

    Fellow niner fans, heads up.

  174. accipiterq says: Nov 18, 2013 12:53 PM

    The rules may not be going anywhere but eventually the fan-base will. There was nothing wrong with that hit, and to have it swing a game is disheartening to see, and I have no particular opinion on either of the teams.

  175. calicowboysfan86 says: Nov 18, 2013 12:54 PM

    Robbed! Brooks is right, couldn’t agree more.

  176. pawpaw46 says: Nov 18, 2013 12:54 PM

    One more check of the scoreboard, and it still says…
    Saints 23 Whiners 20
    From the head coach all the way down to the waterboy….whiners gonna whine.
    Here’s a tissue Ahmad.

  177. pemory says: Nov 18, 2013 12:55 PM

    Yes, bad call. However, the refs. weren’t responsible for the 49ers pathetic offensive output. And I don’t recall any SF players getting upset with the lousy referring after they got away with PI against the Falcons late in the NFC Championship Game.

  178. dirtydrew says: Nov 18, 2013 12:56 PM

    He’s right. The league let refs decide games on judgement calls. Total b—s—.

  179. lucasblack12 says: Nov 18, 2013 12:57 PM

    49ers still had a chance to win the game AFTER the flag, don’t blame the game on that when you had another chance to go down and score, then another chance to stop the saints. Blame it on your piss poor Qb play.

  180. ilovefoolsball says: Nov 18, 2013 1:11 PM

    Good, GOOOOOD, FEEL THE BUTTHURT FLOW THROUGH YOU!!!

  181. eastcoastniner says: Nov 18, 2013 1:15 PM

    Lil baby Brees better be careful to not get an ouchy when his wife hugs him after the game. NO TIDE FOR YOU!

  182. bigassbiscuit says: Nov 18, 2013 1:17 PM

    “but the rules governing hits on quarterbacks aren’t going to go anywhere.”

    While this seems to be unfortunately true, the flip side to it is, the fans might/will decide to take their money and interest in the NFL “product” elsewhere.

    Safety of the players is very important, but so is the integrity of the game.

  183. snaxdsp says: Nov 18, 2013 1:28 PM

    Try actually tackling. That may work

  184. trollaikman8 says: Nov 18, 2013 1:30 PM

    I hate the 49ers but this was a horrible call. The Saints won this match similar to the way GSP beat Hendricks.

  185. spartacus74 says: Nov 18, 2013 1:34 PM

    The rule may not be going anywhere, but the fans will.

  186. xxwhodatxx says: Nov 18, 2013 1:35 PM

    The game would’ve been over anyway after the non call on Kaepernicks’ intentional grounding. Stop crying about the refs they screwed both of us but the Saints won.

  187. hopper15 says: Nov 18, 2013 1:49 PM

    Akiem hicks had his arms around Kaep’s neck on a sack. Where was the flag? No where to be found

    Brees got a superstar call at home, end of story.

  188. mancave001 says: Nov 18, 2013 1:56 PM

    humptyfratz says:
    Nov 18, 2013 8:01 AM
    I’m pretty sure it was unintentional, but clotheslining has been illegal for about 40 years (around the time the head slap was outlawed).

    Good call by the refs; HORRIBLE explanation.
    ————–

    He didn’t clothesline him. He tackled him, striking the shoulders and chest area first. His arm then slid up to his neck as Brees was going down.

    I don’t care what PFT and the NFL say…this call was TERRIBLE and likely cost the 49ers the game.

    –Eagles Fan

  189. castleanthrax says: Nov 18, 2013 1:59 PM

    Not just this call, but just think of the last few seasons…

    Do any of you sort of wait a few moments before celebrating or hanging your head in disgust upon the outcome of a big play?

    Seems like after every big play there’s yellow fabric on the field. Whether it works for your team at that given time, there’ll be another time it will go against.

    Too many judgement calls for the refs to make…

    Another good point already mentioned; when your longest tenured fans don’t even understand the rules anymore you’re tainting the product.

    Goodell is a politician that is looking to make a difference, any difference (good or bad, he doesn’t care) that he’ll be remembered for.

  190. bklion says: Nov 18, 2013 1:59 PM

    I can’t stand Har-bitch, the niners, or their absurdly overrated dope of a QB. However, that’s an awful, awful call. First contact was at the chest, the momentum of the play caused the arm to slide up to the neck. What are defensive players supposed to do? Pat the QB on the ass and tell him “great job”? And as several posters have pointed out, only those QB’s who are part of the sacred cows club–Brady, Brees, the Mannings, Rodgers, get these calls constantly. In that regard, the NFL is quickly mirroring the NBA, which is not a good thing.

  191. allamericanahole says: Nov 18, 2013 2:00 PM

    Niners fans are delusional outside of that call the Saints thoroughly whooped that a$$ don’t take my word for it just look at the numbers those things never lie I pray the Saints play u guys in the playoffs again it’ll be a much easier win the second time around problem is the niners most likely won’t make it unless they get favre to come out of retirement or something lol

  192. seattlelibtard says: Nov 18, 2013 2:03 PM

    Bad calls happen. Life goes on.

    If Brees weren’t so short, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Brooks should have taken that into account.

    Also, Kaep should have been called for intentional grounding late in the 4th, but didn’t.

  193. citynative says: Nov 18, 2013 2:13 PM

    @sbc 85

    “The difference between the Saints and the 49ers as teams is that the Saints players and coach don’t whine to the media after a tough loss about the refs and those mean guys on the other team.”

    – - – - – - – - – -

    Way to know your team. Search Drew Brees talking about Dashon Goldson.

  194. bullcharger says: Nov 18, 2013 2:18 PM

    kaeptovernon says:Nov 18, 2013 8:14 AM

    “Brooks isn’t the only person who feels that way, but the rules governing hits on quarterbacks aren’t going to go anywhere.”

    He followed the rules. He hit Drew Brees in his shoulder pads PERIOD. If onle Brees wasn’t a midget, we wouldnt even have to have the DUMB conversation.

    —————————————-

    His arm was directly across Brees’ neck PERIOD.

  195. mdd913 says: Nov 18, 2013 2:21 PM

    Don’t remember anybody standing up for the Saints in 1989 when Jerry Rice fumbled on the 3-yard line all the way all of the end zone and it got called a touchdown, or when in that very same game John Taylor got a touchdown that was very clearly a no-catch and both calls were so egregiously wrong that the officials were fired.

    I don’t recall anybody standing up for the Saints when Rice did almost the exact same thing diving for the pylon in 2000, fumbled in bounds before hitting the end zone and it was called a TD anyway and the Saints lost the game 31-27.

    Where was all the outrage then, huh?

    What goes around, comes around.

  196. charleypattonsguitar says: Nov 18, 2013 2:23 PM

    Be a man and accept responsibility for not doing your job within the guidelines of the rules. If you don’t want a flag, get your arm from anywhere close to the QB’s neck-level, eliminate all doubt of the legality of the hit, and make the freakin’ play. You make your team look like a bunch of high school kids who blame the refs and umps as the reason for losing. Your coach doesn’t help with that culture either, and I might just trade him from my Super Tecmo Bowl team now that I’ve thunk about it.

  197. theysone says: Nov 18, 2013 2:25 PM

    The following legendary players couldn’t exist in today’s NFL: Lawrence Taylor, Mean Joe Green, Ronnie Lott, Jack Tatum, Deacon Jones, Dick Butkus, among others.

    Sad day.

  198. johnmetfan says: Nov 18, 2013 2:43 PM

    Ah let’s just get it over with. No contact on Quarterback. Put a flag on his ass and that’s that.
    This message brought to you by the NFL National Flag league.

  199. lengai says: Nov 18, 2013 2:47 PM

    Why is the flase start by Graham on the last play before the kick not getting any attention?

  200. peymax1693 says: Nov 18, 2013 2:53 PM

    Wow, I can see why the Niners would be upset. That just looked like a good, hard hit to the upper body, not a clothesline. It’s not Brooks’ fault that Brees is one of the smallest quarterbacks in the league.

  201. railcarcowboy says: Nov 18, 2013 2:53 PM

    It’s a terrible product they’ve put out there. I don’t like Arena football and 100 yards of it isn’t any better. I love my team but I gave up my season tickets. I’m not giving the NFL any more money. No hats, no t-shirts, or merchandise of any kind. I checked out. I’m no longer interested but I do wish my team well and watch them when I can.

  202. dstep24 says: Nov 18, 2013 2:57 PM

    Hey…when are 49er fans going to express disdain for the no-call on the very obvious safety/grounding by Kaepernick on SF’s last drive?

    I KNOW!…..never.

    There are compensating factors and calls that take place, folks.

    Keep crying 9er fans. You’re still 6-4, and your Quarterback has plateau’ed in a major way.

    Write your thank you’s to Scott McCloughan while you still have a winning record with HIS players.

  203. sbc85 says: Nov 18, 2013 3:08 PM

    citynative says:
    Nov 18, 2013 2:13 PM
    @sbc 85

    “The difference between the Saints and the 49ers as teams is that the Saints players and coach don’t whine to the media after a tough loss about the refs and those mean guys on the other team.”

    – – – – – – – – – -

    Way to know your team. Search Drew Brees talking about Dashon Goldson.

    ========

    I do know my team. I said the Saints don’t cry to the media after a tough loss. The Saints WON the game vs. the Bucs where Dashon Goldson was penalized for one or two illegal hits. If the Saints had lost that game, Brees wouldn’t have mentioned it or blamed the loss on the refs.

  204. pmars64 says: Nov 18, 2013 3:18 PM

    After watching the replay many times, Brooks deserves blame for this hit. First, he had two free steps to get to Brees to decide how to hit him. If he’s aware enough to hit his shoulder pad, he’s aware enough that hitting him lower does the job just as well. And, second, once he hit Brees, he followed through by going through Brees’ neck and catching some facemask and helmet as well. If Brooks doesn’t want to risk a call, he shouldn’t hit him so high to begin with. He could have made a better decision and gotten the same result. And, watching that replay at regular speed from the ref’s angle, it looks pretty ugly and looks like Brooks was intentionally trying to take Brees’ head off. I really can’t blame the ref for throwing the flag. I think it would be hard not to throw a flag when you’re watching any QB’s head snap back like that in real time.

  205. allamericanahole says: Nov 18, 2013 3:35 PM

    Ok niners let’s say u get the call and somehow finally put together a good drive and run the clock out and win…everyone in the media would be talking about how the Saints gave the game away because the numbers show them dominating almost twice as many first downs 23 to 12 and twice as many yards 400 to 200 even beat u at your strongest suites rushing yards and sacks…so keep making excuses on how your team lost because of a bad call but the bigger picture you guys are missing is that kapernot just doesn’t have what it takes saints fans went through the same thing with Aaron Brooks he looked unstoppable the first half of a season he played but then the league figured him out…The niners have too much talent to be 6-4 the only weakness on the team is at QB the most important position…but keep living in denial and us saints fans will happily watch that talented team of yours fall apart lol

  206. killitandeatit says: Nov 18, 2013 3:41 PM

    Calling all NFL fans : If this call happened to your team you would be complaining…BIG TIME . So,at least admit that if that call was made and your team lost the game you wouldn’t be “whining”. You would do what fans get to do and question the game changing call and the new face of the NFL.

  207. alphabeta49er says: Nov 18, 2013 3:59 PM

    “and how many of us remember a time when a hit like that wasn’t a penalty. That was a different time, however”

    —————-
    You’re right, it was a different time in the NFL. And now we’re in a new time. And I don’t have to be a part of it.

  208. sbc85 says: Nov 18, 2013 4:05 PM

    I’ve seen several pictures of the hit, one in particular where Brees is almost to the ground, ball flying out, and Brooks’ hand is squarely under his chin, almost on the facemask. His other hand is behind the helmet. But 49ers fans will focus on the initial hit which started at the upper chest. The rule may be awful, but to say that *clearly* he never went above the chest is just wrong. There is no consoling football fans after a loss, though. I can’t say Saints fans were any different after the Patriots loss, except the media didn’t care about that like they do this apparently. Also no Saints players said a word about the bad reffing in that game. But in both cases, the W and L stay the same. Keep dwelling in your misery if you must, I’m out of this discussion.

  209. metalman5150 says: Nov 18, 2013 4:11 PM

    Not only has the NFL become watered-down, by design, it has also ruined my life.
    And if the NFL Illuminati does not lay off with the game-changing, season-altering, penalties, then in addition to NFL Head Coaches having heart problems on the field, game day, so to will owners.
    I already think, that is a player or team recognizes that hostile territory implies bad ball spots, minus penalties and no protection for the Away team’s QB, then the Away team may have to push a little harder for that first down, and in some cases that little extra push is the difference between a touchdown and an ACL.

  210. allamericanahole says: Nov 18, 2013 4:27 PM

    Killitandeatit I can’t speak for fans of other teams but I know for a fact saints fans have to be some of the most critical fans of their own team in the league we can’t even be fully pleased when we do win all year we’ve been complaining about how bad our oline is and how we would fall apart against physical teams like the niners…yes I maybe upset if that call went against us but I would also be able to admit we were thoroughly outplayed and didn’t deserve to win that game anyway outside of the muff and interception fumble we beat the niners in every phase of the game why is that so hard to admit

  211. jdfrox says: Nov 18, 2013 4:30 PM

    I agree 100% and I am not a 9ers fan. At this point, I would honestly rather see them give quarterbacks flags then continue watching games decided because of ridiculous penalties like this. These are game changing penalties.

  212. allamericanahole says: Nov 18, 2013 4:40 PM

    You guys and your conspiracy theories just show how horrible your fan base is…because the NFL definitely wants to see one of their long most unpopular franchises in the Saints go further than one of their most popular most successful franchises in the 49ers now u guys really sound like babies

  213. katra2logic says: Nov 18, 2013 4:46 PM

    “I didn’t hit him with my hand or my helmet,”

    And yet the accompanying photo clearly shows his hand(s) in contact with the QB’s neck / head.

    Personally, I would have liked him to man up and admit he screwed up. A legal hit would have finished off the game also, the player decided to give the QB a cheap shot instead.

  214. killitandeatit says: Nov 18, 2013 5:03 PM

    I thought this thread was about …”the call “. The call that decided the game. The stats don’t decide the game. The score and the clock does. There are many variables in any game but “the call” is getting attention because it it was the game and apparently, IS the new game.

  215. allamericanahole says: Nov 18, 2013 5:25 PM

    No the point is unless u see the world through rose gold colored niners goggles then u would cleary see that call didnt decide the game the niners were still ahead after the CALL they got outplayed after the CALL it’s really that simple if they were the better team they would have won despite the CALL whether it was right or wrong which is the referees job to interpret not the fans

  216. allamericanahole says: Nov 18, 2013 5:32 PM

    Sheesh you guys must be low on logic and very high on emotional thinking in niner land or very high on something lol

  217. bgibson8708 says: Nov 18, 2013 5:33 PM

    The worst part about modern “football” is you can never celebrate. Your team makes a big play, you can’t get excited about it, you have to think – did he get his feet in, did he really maintain possession all the way through, did the defender hit the qb in the head, etc. Too many rules, makes the game unwatchable almost. Pass interference and roughing are such huge penalties and they almost always favor the elite QBs. Nothing a team can do when they get multiple Pass Interference penalties against them in a game when there was minimal contact. Football would be the easiest game to fix since the refs have control over who wins and loses.

  218. jonny42671 says: Nov 18, 2013 5:43 PM

    But yet there were no calls against Favre in the same building? You can’t have it both ways. Just shows how phony Brees and Saints fans really are!!

  219. assuredmutualdestruction says: Nov 18, 2013 6:02 PM

    niners are trash…not even a top 5 team in this league, let alone a superbowl contender. They can’t win in Seattle and they probably can’t win in N.O. either. Quit crying about Brooks, too. He’s a dirty player, let’s just call it like it is. He’s not a smart person or player. In a close game like that, there’s no need to go to the upper chest/neck area. He could have still hit Brees and made a play. The game is what it is now…anything around the head/neck area is getting called. Quit your balling and whining niner nation.

  220. allamericanahole says: Nov 18, 2013 6:08 PM

    And there were no calls against yall in the ga dome against the Falcons who’s trying to have it both ways here??? Totally different game totally different circumstances the quarterback rules were different that season anyway the league changed the rules after that season because they were upset the Saints beat their beloved favre…

  221. nichochris says: Nov 18, 2013 6:51 PM

    Let’s go back to wearing leather helmets. They don’t hurt the opposing player or wussy QBs and the only person leading with the head to get hurt will be the tackler. those hard helmets are the culprit.

  222. jackmayhoffer says: Nov 18, 2013 6:53 PM

    assuredmutualdestruction says:

    basically the same moronic trash every time he opens pie hole. It suddenly stinks on this page

  223. xestenz says: Nov 18, 2013 6:54 PM

    ‘niners are trash…not even a top 5 team in this league, let alone a superbowl contender. They can’t win in Seattle and they probably can’t win in N.O. either. Quit crying about Brooks, too. He’s a dirty player, let’s just call it like it is. He’s not a smart person or player. In a close game like that, there’s no need to go to the upper chest/neck area. He could have still hit Brees and made a play. The game is what it is now…anything around the head/neck area is getting called. Quit your balling and whining niner nation.’
    ______________________________
    Brooks was trying — successfully — to knock the ball out of Breesus’ throwing hand, which Breesus was holding, as he always does, high by the side of his neck. Exactly what Brooks should have done…

  224. jackmayhoffer says: Nov 18, 2013 6:57 PM

    There 6-4, 2011 Giants were 6-6, lost every game in November and went on to beat 4 “elite teams” to win the title. I don’t know what will happen the rest of the way but despite what all these idiots say this is a good franchise with a bright future and will be for the foreseeable future.

  225. pmars64 says: Nov 18, 2013 7:20 PM

    @ xestenz,
    Sorry, but Brooks could have easily knocked the ball out of Brees’ hand by simply swiping it away or hitting him lower. Brees never saw him coming so it would have been easy. He didn’t have to go that high. And if he was trying to get to the ball, he missed that badly and got that close to Brees’ neck? Please. Watch the replay in real time and it looks like Brooks was trying to intentionally hurt Brees. He caught face mask and helmet while going through Brees neck as he was going through his tackle. In real time, it looks pretty ugly and I can see why the ref flew the flag.

    It was a bad decision by Brooks to go that high. He had several options to get the ball out of Brees’ hand and he chose one of the worst.

  226. yournuts says: Nov 18, 2013 7:50 PM

    Do you notice that every time the 49ers lose they always blame someone of something else? Why are they always crying?

  227. allamericanahole says: Nov 18, 2013 7:56 PM

    Niners fans are like the big brother who always bullied the little brother now they’re upset because lil bro is bigger stronger and better than them and now they don’t know how to accept it…anyway we’re wasting our breath on these niners fans you can lead them to water but can’t make them drink it…unless your name is kapernot they drink his bath water lol

  228. jonny42671 says: Nov 18, 2013 9:00 PM

    @allamericanahole…… Is that why the NFL apologized for the non calls against Favre? Your Super Bowl will always be tainted. Everyone knows, including yourself the Saints had NO business winning that game. Enjoy that Asterisk Win!!

  229. allamericanahole says: Nov 18, 2013 9:45 PM

    So if the NFL would apologize for bad calls in that game why would they give us favorable calls now you guys aren’t making any sense and I will enjoy that win we were the better team that game too without the 5 sloppy turnovers we had that game wouldn’t have been close either but everyone always focuses on how the NFL gave us the game but then they apologize for bad calls isn’t that a major contradiction lol I guess they gave us the game against the Colts too that we had no chance of winning just accept it we won fair and square and still haven’t seen any bounty gate evidence either I guess we have weapons of mass destruction too lmao

  230. pmars64 says: Nov 18, 2013 10:04 PM

    @ jonny42671
    Yes, we continue to enjoy the “asterisk win!” Why, because hypocrites like you would have enjoyed it just as much if your team had won in the very same way. Get real.

  231. pens5829 says: Nov 18, 2013 10:06 PM

    Ask Roethlisberger if that’s a penalty? Never. Why? Because it’s a BS rule that’s only called on the primadona’s of the league like Bree’s, Brady, and Manning (Peyton, not Eli). Brooks makes a very valid point. Offensive players are protected and don’t get penalized or fined for cutting knees but a bang-bang play like that results in an official’s BS judgement call.

    Soon it will be the WDFL (Watered Down Football League).

  232. allamericanahole says: Nov 18, 2013 10:07 PM

    If any fan base has a right to talk about conspiracy theories it’s the Saints fan base they changed the rules after we win the Super Bowl they fabricate bounty gate cause of that win with no evidence the last thing goodell wants is for us to be successful the season after but you don’t hear us b*tching about it that’s because we know we have a good team if anything we’re the new Raiders to the league why would they give us anything???

  233. allamericanahole says: Nov 18, 2013 10:23 PM

    Pens 5829 that’s a horrible example ask Seattle fans if roethlisberger got favorable calls when they played in the super bowl they still complain about that my friend…moving on

  234. hess97 says: Nov 18, 2013 11:26 PM

    anyone see the pic of Kaepernick getting sacked by his neck earlier in the game? Double bleeping Standard! and nobody batted an eye when Jedneck Collins dives with his knee like five minutes after the play to Tarell Brown’s now-broken back.

  235. truthserum4u says: Nov 19, 2013 1:09 AM

    TheRealLogicalVoice says: Nov 18, 2013 8:00 AM

    This was one of those calls that was technically right by the letter of the rule but shouldn’t have been called. .. Again, technically this was the right call but it could’ve gone either way and it should’ve went the other way.

    humptyfratz says: Nov 18, 2013 8:01 AM

    I’m pretty sure it was unintentional, but clotheslining has been illegal for about 40 years (around the time the head slap was outlawed).

    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

    And for everyone else out there saying it was a correct call or a clothesline – you are incorrect!

    A clothesline is described as “extending an arm away from his body and parallel to the playing field” and is determined to be a premeditated action. Brooks’ arm was never extended any more than a typical tackle.

    Based on the photo accompanying this story the play looks like Brooks hit Brees in the neck. However, the picture captures the follow-through and not the initial contact which was below the neck.

    A certain network that carries the AFC games (and starts with the third letter of the alphabet)has a website with an article that shows the play close up. (got to their NFL page and look for a story headline that starts with “49ers angry Brooks”) The clip clearly shows Brooks initial contact with Brees is below the neck. Clean hit!

    Although at real speed I could see how the refs thought it was in the neck.

  236. prezmtdewcamacho says: Nov 19, 2013 1:55 AM

    Players get hurt more often when they hesitate. These rules, the technicalities… it’s not good for a game based on high speed plays and collisions.

    I’m all for reducing unnecessary injuries, but at some point players and the league will be forced to acknowledge they are our gladiators, we pay to see them take these risks. Treating the NFL like a typical OSHA work place and not what it truly is, which is a sport comparable to a boxing, is a mistake with impacts beyond the players themselves. If parents are are coerced in to not understanding the true risks of the game, children are at risk.

    As long as the game includes high speed collisions, blocking and tackling there will be significant risks.

  237. sportfan2 says: Nov 19, 2013 6:54 AM

    IT WAS A BAD CALL. And it cost San Fran the game.

  238. sb44champs says: Nov 19, 2013 10:29 AM

    It was a GREAT CALL and the Saints deserved the win!!!!!!!!!! WHO DAT!!??!!

  239. sb44champs says: Nov 19, 2013 10:32 AM

    It wouldn’t have even been close if the Saints didn’t commit unforced turnovers and shoot themselves in the foot… 9ers have a horse shoe up their you-know-whats..

  240. saint970 says: Nov 20, 2013 10:32 AM

    Whiners? Take a look at hot air Harbaugh during a game. That’s whining.

    After reading all of this BS, I’m glad we will get benefit calls now.

    “Get to Brees’ level” Later chumps

  241. foothillfrank says: Nov 22, 2013 1:46 PM

    Here is the deal. The reason the hit eventually appeared to be illegal had nothing to do with how Brooks initially hit Brees, which was grabbing him by the shoulder pads. Brees is less than 6-feet tall and one of the least physical qbs in the NFL. When he was hit he immediately wilted, went down like he was shot….It was the way in which he could not absorb a strong hit that led to it appearing to be illegal. When he shrank under the power of the hit, THEN Brooks, however barely, contacted Brees above the neck level. So, it seems defenders will need to focus and gauge their hits not only on a “strike zone” but based on how tough the QB is. Same hit, even that high, might not even bring Big Ben down…for example. And even smaller, Russell Wilson is more stout and strong and may not have gone down in an immediate heap, thereby causing contact above the neck

  242. nagaswan says: Nov 24, 2013 1:01 PM

    You wear helmets, you are all sissies.

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