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Lions linemen tell Bucs to bring it on victory formation

Dominic Raiola AP

The Buccaneers aren’t blitzing victory formations as often as they have in the past — though that doesn’t mean they’re winning more.

But a couple of Lions offensive linemen welcome the opportunity for the Bucs to try to blow up the middle of their line while sealing a win.

Get in shotgun and cut them,” center Dominic Raiola said, via Dave Birkett of the Detroit Free Press. “Seriously. I mean, I think about it. I thought about that when they did it the first time. You get in shotgun and you just, as low that they go, really all you got to do is get the snap back.”

The Bucs have seen the victory formation in five of their eight losses, but haven’t attacked it vigorously every time. They did it against the Cardinals, knocking Carson Palmer down in a 13-10 loss in September. Kicker Jay Feely tweeted after that game that Bucs linemen apologized for the tactic.

Since the Eagles and Falcons went to the shotgun in those situations, the Bucs didn’t blitz.

Raiola was pragmatic about the function of the play, saying “If you’re in the game, why not do it?” And left guard Rob Sims was likewise ambivalent about the ethics, after the Lions won a game on a fake spike against the Cowboys.

“It’s going to be what it is,” Sims said. “I’ve been saying people are going to start keying that kind of stuff. When we’re supposed to just down it and do all that kind of stuff, people are going to take advantage of that now that they’ve seen us play like that, and so be it.

“Hopefully, we do get in victory and that’s one play, and they come up and do what they do, and we walk out of that locker room [with a win]. . . . I’ll take it all day. Victory formation? Yeah, come on, knock me down.”

Others haven’t been as magnanimous, but at least the Lions are putting out word that they’re prepared to fight fire with fire.

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29 Responses to “Lions linemen tell Bucs to bring it on victory formation”
  1. sbc85 says: Nov 20, 2013 12:42 PM

    Lions just now getting to respond to year-old news, I guess. Wouldn’t be surprised if the Bucs win.

  2. cajunaise says: Nov 20, 2013 12:42 PM

    There is only one proper response to the Bucs’ victory formation antics: “That’s the best pass rush you guys had all day.”

  3. tdubdizzle says: Nov 20, 2013 12:48 PM

    Plays like that make Schiano look so petty.

  4. pillowporkers says: Nov 20, 2013 12:54 PM

    Two days after they lose to the Steelers, the Lions are talking about a play that only happens if you are up and have the ball at the end. I would focus more on getting to the victory formation first.

  5. notaslappy says: Nov 20, 2013 12:57 PM

    I hope this DOES happen…it means the Lions are near certain victory!

    After last weekend, I’ll take any and all victories any way we can get them! The Bucs won’t just roll over and I appreciate that…

    Lions 31-Bucs 23

  6. 6ball says: Nov 20, 2013 12:59 PM

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    Confidence : n , when you’re game planning your victory formation plays on Wednesday.

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  7. trollhammer20 says: Nov 20, 2013 1:01 PM

    Anyone else notice that now Freeman is out of town, the Bucs are doing things like taking 21-0 leads in Seattle (couldn’t close out, though) and winning games? Two no-name running backs are suddenly piling up 150 yard rushing efforts, and that Glennon kid looks like he might be a keeper.

    Detroit should be careful lest they find themselves the ones lining up on the wrong side of victory formation this weekend.

  8. PriorKnowledge says: Nov 20, 2013 1:02 PM

    The game is not over until the clock reads zero-zero-zero. As long as they line up, they should make an effort to win the game. It is not unethical to try to win on every play. If the NFL wants to stop this, they can just declare the game over, but since they don’t, the defense should try to get the ball back. The only unethical thing would be if there was any hitting after downing the ball.

    There are lots of things that the Bucs do that is ridiculous. This is not one of them.

  9. cajunaise says: Nov 20, 2013 1:05 PM

    PriorKnowledge: does this mean that, if a team is up 38-0 and on the opponent’s 5-yard line with 20 seconds left, they should always try to drive it into the end zone? Same logic…

  10. vicnocal says: Nov 20, 2013 1:06 PM

    I’m not a Bucs fan, but what part of “The game is not over yet” do morons not understand? If the lead is 9 points or more, then yeah. If not, then keep playing ball. Anything can happen, specifically a fumbled snap.

    Sure, very convenient for the team that’s leading to say “Hey, we have the lead here, let us comfortably run out the clock so we can get the win.” Absolutely absurd. That’s like if a basketball team has a 3-pt lead with 18 seconds left and they expect the other team to just allow them to comfortably dribble the ball until the clock runs out.

  11. nickster31 says: Nov 20, 2013 1:06 PM

    An offensive linemans FIRST job is to protect his QB. If I played O-Line and they tried that? I would take out his knee. Just being honest.

    When Schiano loses one of his D-Linemen because of this? It will end.

    What I dont understand is, why the NFL or the NFLPA hasent said anything about this? You REALLY want to protect players? Start here.

  12. whitecastleisafoodgroup says: Nov 20, 2013 1:08 PM

    Okay Lions fans, while I agree that you certainly should win vs. the Bucs you do understand the ridicule you are going to get if the Bucs are winning and are in a position to run thier victory formation?

    If the Bucs do win and run it I personally can’t wait to see the post game hand shake between the head coaches!!!

  13. liner1900 says: Nov 20, 2013 1:20 PM

    Fearing retaliation after the first time they tried to blow up the victory formation, the Bucs showed the world how to do it. Freeman took the snap in the pistol. No revelation here.

  14. tennesseeoilers says: Nov 20, 2013 1:20 PM

    If I was an NFL head coach, I’d create a special victory formation just for the Buccaneers. It’d be a three tight end goal line formation with my biggest back (imagine the Panthers’ Mike Tolbert) in at QB. Snap it on one and blow up that defensive line with a mad-bull QB “sneak.”

  15. tennesseeoilers says: Nov 20, 2013 1:21 PM

    P.S. Three consecutive times if possible.

  16. liner1900 says: Nov 20, 2013 1:23 PM

    If a team on defense has time to get the ball back, score, and win the game, then go right ahead and blow up that victory formation. The game is NOT over.

    However, when Schiano first did it against the Giants that was not the case. The Bucs were down by too much with not enough time left. Victory was impossible and the man is classless.

  17. heisthejuan says: Nov 20, 2013 1:31 PM

    Raiola is basically Incognito without the fanfare.

  18. whereslelie says: Nov 20, 2013 1:43 PM

    Rob Sims should be fined for saying that. After all, this is the N.F.L.

  19. craigkintexas says: Nov 20, 2013 1:47 PM

    Schiano really needs to go back to coaching prep school.

  20. benrob99 says: Nov 20, 2013 1:54 PM

    It does seem kinda silly that 330 lb. linemen are complaining about getting hit too hard… no matter what the situation is. Game is 60 minutes son, be prepared to play (and be hit) for all of them.

  21. bunjy96 says: Nov 20, 2013 2:25 PM

    Where does it say a football game is less than 60 minutes?

    If so, thre would have been a lot of games, just this year, that would have finished differently.

    If the victory formation is used and are ahead by 8 points or less, the defense has every right to try and get the ball.

    Has absolutely zero to do with ethics-who was the dummy that dreamed that response up.

    Well said earlier:
    Sure, very convenient for the team that’s leading to say “Hey, we have the lead here, let us comfortably run out the clock so we can get the win.” Absolutely absurd. That’s like if a basketball team has a 3-pt lead with 18 seconds left and they expect the other team to just allow them to comfortably dribble the ball until the clock runs out.

  22. newlydead says: Nov 20, 2013 2:29 PM

    nickster31 says:
    Nov 20, 2013 1:06 PM

    What I dont understand is, why the NFL or the NFLPA hasent said anything about this? You REALLY want to protect players? Start here.

    ———————
    ok, i’m ready, what do you suppose they should say/do about it? give me your rule that would make sense in that situation?

    something like ….
    rule 128 …. a game shall last 60 minutes, divided into 4 equal 15 minutes quarters unless after 58 minutes one team is ahead, in that case the game will end at that point

  23. newlydead says: Nov 20, 2013 2:32 PM

    tennesseeoilers says:
    Nov 20, 2013 1:20 PM
    If I was an NFL head coach, I’d create a special victory formation just for the Buccaneers. It’d be a three tight end goal line formation with my biggest back (imagine the Panthers’ Mike Tolbert) in at QB. Snap it on one and blow up that defensive line with a mad-bull QB “sneak.”
    —————–
    i am sure every opposing coach would take that deal. i would think the probability of a fumble/mishandled snap goes up quite a bit with “the biggest back” under center rather than the QB who has taken snaps just about his entire life. good strategy there.

  24. newlydead says: Nov 20, 2013 2:34 PM

    liner1900 says:
    Nov 20, 2013 1:23 PM
    If a team on defense has time to get the ball back, score, and win the game, then go right ahead and blow up that victory formation. The game is NOT over.

    However, when Schiano first did it against the Giants that was not the case. The Bucs were down by too much with not enough time left. Victory was impossible and the man is classless.
    ———————-

    the Giants beat the Bucs by 7 in that game. Last i checked a TD / extra point = 7

    Nice try, next

  25. chris31954 says: Nov 20, 2013 3:26 PM

    liner1900 says:
    Nov 20, 2013 1:23 PM
    If a team on defense has time to get the ball back, score, and win the game, then go right ahead and blow up that victory formation. The game is NOT over.

    However, when Schiano first did it against the Giants that was not the case. The Bucs were down by too much with not enough time left. Victory was impossible and the man is classless.

    ———————————————————————–

    You know you defend the tactic but go on to call Schiano classless, because they were down by more than one score. You need to get your facts straight the Bucs lost to the Giants 41-34, which by the math we do here on planet earth is 7 pts. Also the game of football awards a team 6 pts for a TD and 1pt for PAT. So, the man may rub some the wrong way but the team does not run this play of a win is unachievable.

  26. blabbaboo says: Nov 20, 2013 5:49 PM

    The Bucs have never once attacked the victory formation unless the score was close enough to win or tie if they got the ball. Schiano is doing what every coach should do, and gets called classless because of it. In that case, I guess Dungy was a real classy guy, he hated to hurt the other team’s feelings by winning by too many points, and often gave away games by playing not to lose. Now going after players’ knees because they’re playing to the end? That’s classless!

  27. Ferdinand says: Nov 20, 2013 6:54 PM

    Can we just label this game “The Unprofessional Bowl” now?

  28. chrisco4bucs says: Nov 21, 2013 12:19 AM

    Gonna go to Motown and smack the cats around, Revis will blanket CJ all day, Gerald and Lavonte will have huge days, Leonard Johnson will have a pick 6, Rainey will run for a buc fifty, Glennon throws for 275 and 3 scores, one to Vincent, and Tiquan and Tim Wright

  29. 63deuceman says: Nov 22, 2013 11:56 AM

    I think the Bucs only have attempted to blow up the victory formation when down by only one score. In this case, it’s justified.

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