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Patriots secondary questionable at the wrong time

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The Patriots were at least moderately healthy against the Panthers.

But now that they’re playing a team more efficient at throwing the ball, they’re likely to be very shorthanded.

The Patriots listed four members of the secondary as questionable for Sunday night’s game against the Broncos — cornerbacks Aqib Talib, Alfonzo Dennard and Kyle Arrington, along with safety Steve Gregory. All were listed as participating on a limited basis Friday.

Of the group, Dennard (knee), isn’t expected to play, while Talib (hip) might still need to “Ice up, son,” after aggravating his hip injury last week.

With the Broncos getting Wes Welker back from a concussion, and plenty of other targets for Peyton Manning to choose from, it’s far from an ideal situation.

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49 Responses to “Patriots secondary questionable at the wrong time”
  1. thepftpoet says: Nov 22, 2013 5:11 PM

    Final score:

    Broncos – 106
    Patriots – 24

  2. thepftpoet says: Nov 22, 2013 5:17 PM

    Welker finally gets his reunion with Brady..

    How cute..

    Expect a long pre game hug

  3. ampats says: Nov 22, 2013 5:19 PM

    Reminds me back to 2003 when we played the Rams on MNF in St.Louis and we had Troy Brown and Earthwind Moreland at DB because of injuries.

    Pats won the game.

  4. 4thquartermagic says: Nov 22, 2013 5:25 PM

    ampats says:
    Nov 22, 2013 5:19 PM
    Reminds me back to 2003 when we played the Rams on MNF in St.Louis and we had Troy Brown and Earthwind Moreland at DB because of injuries.

    Pats won the game.
    __________________________________

    Pats didn’t play the Rams in 2003…

    Maybe your thinking of 2002. The year, you know the Pats cheated.

    Great trip down memory lane.

  5. azarkhan says: Nov 22, 2013 5:29 PM

    The Patriots are decimated on defense. If Peyton and the Broncos don’t win by 30+, then they suck.

  6. i, flounder says: Nov 22, 2013 5:42 PM

    thepftpoet says: Nov 22, 2013 5:17 PM

    Welker finally gets his reunion with Brady..

    How cute..

    Expect a long pre game hug

    keep going.

  7. taintedsaints2009 says: Nov 22, 2013 5:43 PM

    This game means nothing except who might get the home field game in the playoffs, and most likely the broncos have the locked up anyways. The playoff game is the only one that matters. This is like a warm up

  8. ampats says: Nov 22, 2013 5:45 PM

    4thquartermagic says,

    Pats didn’t play the Rams in 2003.

    Maybe your thinking 2002 The year ,you know the Pats cheated.

    You are partially right but it was not 2002 but 2004 the season the Patriots hoisted their third Lombardi and two years before Roger Goodell instituted a rule of what location a team can videotape the game.

    Great trip down memory lane !

  9. tedmurph says: Nov 22, 2013 5:45 PM

    Hard to say which of the last 4 Pats vs Rams gms ampats meant. Probably not the huge Super Bowl upset. Maybe the 40-22 blowout in St Louis, when the Pats scoresd on the fake FG? Or, the win in 2008, that could be it. Maybe the 2012 45-7 blowout in London. Wow, that had to be embarrassing. Memory lane is fun.

  10. ufanforreal says: Nov 22, 2013 5:47 PM

    Watch out……smoke screen.
    BB at work.

  11. Nofoolnodrool says: Nov 22, 2013 5:50 PM

    tedmurph | Nov 22, 2013, 5:45 PM EST
    Hard to say which of the last 4 Pats vs Rams gms ampats meant. Probably not the huge Super Bowl upset. Maybe the 40-22 blowout in St Louis, when the Pats scoresd on the fake FG? Or, the win in 2008, that could be it. Maybe the 2012 45-7 blowout in London. Wow, that had to be embarrassing. Memory lane is fun.

    Is this the same tedmurphy that calls steeler fans arrogant? Check your mirror dude…..pathetic.

  12. tedmurph says: Nov 22, 2013 5:56 PM

    Just the facts man, nothing arrogant about the truth. Especially to a disgruntled Rams fan that thinks walkthroughs were taped. Go take on Bobzilla, more of a fair fight.

  13. La Milicia Negra says: Nov 22, 2013 6:00 PM

    “Patriots secondary questionable at the wrong time”

    well, haven’t they been that all year?

  14. u4iadman says: Nov 22, 2013 6:01 PM

    U do know the Pats were caught cheating and will forever have the asterisk next to the “win”?

    Best of luck though.*

  15. grabgrabgrab says: Nov 22, 2013 6:04 PM

    Why are Patriot fans talking about a Rams game that happened nearly a decade ago (or more than a decade – depending on the actual game they’re talking about)? Insecure much?

    Either way, it has nothing to with the Patriots/Broncos game taking place this Sunday night, in the year 2013.

  16. tigerlilac says: Nov 22, 2013 6:07 PM

    One statistic stands out when looking at the dominance of the Patriots in the Belichick era. The Patriots have a winning record against every NFL team in the in the regular season since Bill Belichick became head coach in 2000 with one exception. That one exception is the Broncos, whom the Patriots have a 5-5 record against in the regular season under Belichick.

  17. tedmurph says: Nov 22, 2013 6:14 PM

    Pats fans brought up the Rams gm because it was an example of having to use a patchwork secondary to stop a high powered passing offense and they got it done. That’s all. The Rams fan was the sensitive one. Twelve yrs later and still can’t get over it. Waiting on the tuck rule apologists now.

    Asterisk guys: it’s a figment of your imagination. No asterisks appear in any NFL record book, as they shouldn’t and never will. You’re just gonna have to get on with your lives.

  18. 4thquartermagic says: Nov 22, 2013 6:17 PM

    ampats says:
    Nov 22, 2013 5:45 PM

    You are partially right but it was not 2002 but 2004 the season the Patriots hoisted their third Lombardi and two years before Roger Goodell instituted a rule of what location a team can videotape the game.
    ________________________________

    Ha so we’re making progress with Pats fans. Before you guys denied any wrong doing. Now you admit a technicality of rules bending occurred.

    Soon you’ll come around to admitting you cheated.

  19. tedmurph says: Nov 22, 2013 6:23 PM

    2/3/2002: Superbowl XXXVI: Patriots 20 Rams 17. Hurts, don’t it.

  20. Nofoolnodrool says: Nov 22, 2013 6:25 PM

    Asterisk guys: it’s a figment of your imagination. No asterisks appear in any NFL record book, as they shouldn’t and never will. You’re just gonna have to get on with your lives.

    Just like Ray Lewis no asterisk just homers defending the ghost “taping” in the Patriots case. Everyone views the Pats as tainted….except you…my hero

  21. tedmurph says: Nov 22, 2013 6:37 PM

    No, the people that view the Pats as tainted are the teams the Pats trampled over the yrs. Steelers lose two AFC Championship gms at home. Rams lose as big favs in the SBowl. Manning’s Colts couldn’t beat them(with one exception). Chargers couldn’t beat them. Raiders blame the tuck rule(the correct application of a bad rule). On and on. Can’t believe your teams got beat, there has to be an excuse. Most other fans(not all) in the league don’t view the Pats as tainted. Sad it ruined your lives.

  22. brobroski says: Nov 22, 2013 7:02 PM

    To all the spy gate window lickers.
    Wrote Cole: “The San Diego Chargers increased their security several years ago at a hill overlooking the practice field at the team facility during weeks when they played the Denver Broncos. Why? It turns out Broncos coach Mike Shanahan had been hiring spies to videotape the Chargers practices. The NFL had been aware of it for several years (at least one NFL official had seen one of the tapes), but didn’t step in because it was considered a team issue.”

    Such stories tend to support the rumor that Patriots coach Bill Belichick included with the materials surrendered to the league extensive evidence of cheating by other teams.

    Further bolstering the belief that the Pats weren’t the only team doing what they were caught doing are the comments of former Cowboys and Dolphins coach Jimmy Johnson. The Boston Herald has posted the transcript of a WFAN interview that we first mentioned on September 29, during which Johnson said that the videotaping of defensive coaching signals was a widespread practice.

    “I did it with video and so did a lot of other teams in the league,” Johnson said on September 28. “Just to make sure that you could study it and take your time, because you’re going to play the other team the second time around. But a lot of coaches did it, this was commonplace.”

  23. jimjets says: Nov 22, 2013 7:13 PM

    Hey armpits – you’re right. It’s the rest of us who’ve been wrong all these years. The pats never cheated. On behalf of football fans everywhere I apologize for insulting you and your teams impeccable and undeniable honesty and integrity.

  24. tedmurph says: Nov 22, 2013 7:18 PM

    Nice how ddrool boy mentions spygate and RLewis, but nothing about steroids in the 70′s, Roethlisberger indiscretions or the current scandal about the team doctor getting fired under questionable circumstances. You don’t see Pats fans bringing those things up, they’re not jealous of the steelers. I guess in a lost yr there’s nothing better to do.

  25. tedmurph says: Nov 22, 2013 7:22 PM

    Thanks jimjets, when I listed the teamd the pats had trampled over the yrs and their jealous fans, I forgot about the jets. Tampering with Parcells and CMartin was fine with you, I’ll bet. 1968 musta been awesome.

  26. 6ball says: Nov 22, 2013 7:29 PM

    .
    @jimmythejet

    “On behalf of football fans everywhere I apologize to the Patriots ”

    Well stated. On behalf of all New England I’ll accept your gracious apology.

    .

  27. jimjets says: Nov 22, 2013 7:34 PM

    I don’t have a horse on that race and I can’t stand the steelers nutlets face it, they’ve won more championships then anybody. They ate the best franchise in the history of this game and the pats will always be known as cheaters

  28. footballfilmroom says: Nov 22, 2013 7:34 PM

    This is all the more reason why the Patriots need to run the ball like they did on Monday night. That will help protect Brady against the Broncos pass rush and control the clock, keeping Manning off the field.

    The Pats have had success in the passing game lately because they’ve had two favorable matchups. Both the Steelers and Panthers played a lot of soft coverage, and this is a passing game that thrives on short quick throws. This played right into the Pats’ hands.

    The Broncos play a lot of press-man, something the Pats have struggled against all season. It will be interesting to see if they test Denver in the passing game or try to ram it down their throats with their power runs.

  29. tedmurph says: Nov 22, 2013 7:43 PM

    Pats have played the Broncos 3 times in the last two yrs and blew them out each time(Manning was only QB once). Point being, Denver couldn’t stop them. It’s gonna be freezing, that should help. Manning is awful and Brady, IMO, is the best bad weather QB of all time. Pats injuries on D may be too much to overcome, but it should be a fun gm.

  30. mikemaric says: Nov 22, 2013 8:02 PM

    As a hater of both teams this will be fun. We will either see some Bradying or the Manning sad horse face.

    The winner on the other hand will have that much more pressure on them for the playoffs, where they will inevitably choke.

    I love it.

  31. tedmurph says: Nov 22, 2013 8:18 PM

    One of those two teams are going to the Super Bowl. Choke on that.

  32. Nofoolnodrool says: Nov 22, 2013 8:20 PM

    Pats have played the Broncos 3 times in the last two yrs and blew them out each time(Manning was only QB once). Point being, Denver couldn’t stop them. It’s gonna be freezing, that should help. Manning is awful and Brady, IMO, is the best bad weather QB of all time. Pats injuries on D may be too much to overcome, but it should be a fun gm.

    Typical New England fan coyly inserting the injury card as a fall back…again my hero Stand up Ted.

  33. denverwally says: Nov 22, 2013 8:27 PM

    The Pats championships are legit. I just checked every record book. No asterisks.

    If your thought your D signals were being taped, change them idiot.

    Even Cowher came out and said the taping made no difference, they chanced their calls every quarter.

    Just jealous hater wishing their teams won as much as the Pats over the last 12 years.

    Bronco’s were fined and lost a draft choice for cheating on the salary cap to hang on to Elway and Davis. I don’t care, they can keep their trophies too.

    Maybe it was cheating to get Tom Brady with the 199th pick in the draft. Yea, thats it, thats why everyone is jealous. Their teams could have had a winning run like the Pats are on if only their teams had taken a flyer on Brady.

    Tough luck haters, choke on those three championship trophies in Foxboro.

  34. jetsmmt says: Nov 22, 2013 8:37 PM

    7-4.

  35. fearthehoody says: Nov 22, 2013 8:39 PM

    I feel bad for those haters that post on EVERY Pats article and cry spygate! Your words will never mean anything, there are no asterisks, and history will never change. Enjoy though!!

  36. tedmurph says: Nov 22, 2013 8:40 PM

    7-4, maybe. Either way, they’ll get the #2 seed and get to the AFC Championship game. Who’s gonna come in and beat them, Indy? Cincy ? Whoever the 9-7/8-8 6th seed is?

  37. tedmurph says: Nov 22, 2013 8:52 PM

    Typical New England fan coyly inserting the injury card as a fall back…again my hero Stand up Ted.
    ——————————————————-
    Really? That’s your best shot?

  38. 3taintedchampionships2biglosses says: Nov 22, 2013 9:07 PM

    The patriots regular season wins since 2004 is really impressive.

  39. kissbillsrings says: Nov 22, 2013 9:47 PM

    It’s gonna be really cold at the Razor….
    Manning will fold like a lawn chair..
    The Chiefs will win the following week & regain 1st place in the AFC West…& th Donkeys will become a wild card team…

  40. whysomanylosers says: Nov 22, 2013 10:01 PM

    Pats should be used to this, it’s questionable every week if Talib will make it on the field..

  41. lanman11 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:40 PM

    tigerlilac says:
    Nov 22, 2013 6:07 PM
    One statistic stands out when looking at the dominance of the Patriots in the Belichick era. The Patriots have a winning record against every NFL team in the in the regular season since Bill Belichick became head coach in 2000 with one exception. That one exception is the Broncos, whom the Patriots have a 5-5 record against in the regular season under Belichick.

    ***************************************
    7 of the 13 games were in Denver.

    Prior to this, 20 of 34 games were in Denver.

    Until Belichick came along, Denver was a bit of a problem for NE. Not lately though.

  42. bendoza says: Nov 22, 2013 11:58 PM

    “Manning is awful and Brady, IMO, is the best bad weather QB of all time. ”

    Wow. Just. Wow. I don’t think this even deserves a response.

  43. ranlgon says: Nov 23, 2013 12:05 AM

    Didn’t know there were so many Roger Goodell fans here that think all his decisions are so good that they should be retroactive and effect all games and records before he became commissioner. The memo
    that was sent to all 32 teams wasn’t sent out until September 2006.

    A wide spread practice as some posters have previously mentioned and perfectly okay under previous commissioner Paul Tagliabue.

    Yes, The Patriots were in violation of the rule as of Sept 2006 up to and including the first game in 2007 against the Jets. For this they were punished and rightly so. They were not in violation previous to that.

    Sorry to upset all you Roger Goodell butt kissers.

  44. RE LEE says: Nov 23, 2013 4:01 AM

    So what’s new? It’s more like the Patchriots now the way they plug players here, there and everywhere. It’s a wonder that they win games but this can’t go on. Their core is decimated. Between injuries and the referees their way to make it to the top is narrowing. But as long as TB and BB are in charge they will find ways to eke out a win. Go pats!!

  45. donmcg2012 says: Nov 23, 2013 7:11 AM

    “”Maybe your thinking of 2002. The year, you know the Pats cheated””

    Spygate was 2007

  46. cobo2112 says: Nov 23, 2013 8:06 AM

    Since “Spygate” where the pats cheated as well as most teams in the 90s and early 2000, they only went 16-0 the year after, appeared in multiple superbowls, and have the most regular and postseason wins. Unless you’re a Steelers or Giants fan , you’re team hasnt even come close to this success. All the haters love to pile on a team this dominant and would kill for their team to be this competitive year in and year out. But….but…but the tuck rule! Spygate!…Cheaters!!!!! Just get over it, man.

  47. tigerlilac says: Nov 23, 2013 11:31 AM

    Patriots chances of winning on Sunday have improved given the forecast: Colder with flurries,
    30°F to 20°F

  48. frostymugobeer says: Nov 23, 2013 8:09 PM

    Manning 34 TD’s so far this season

    Brady 14 TD’s

    Pats fans are veeeeeeeery nervous about sunday night

  49. RE LEE says: Nov 23, 2013 8:54 PM

    Hey frostybeer…We pats fan are always nervous. We are aware that the pats esp. this year are vulnerable. But we still win. If not for the refs pats could have been just like manning’s. But as BB say it is what it is. You can brag about manning’s touchdowns and he might even win this Sunday but the record still say that manning still is chasing brady… More rings and brady beat him more times. I bet you were not at all nervous when the colts beat the donkeys. LOL..

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