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Report (sort of): Shanahan wanted to stay put for Tannehill

Mike Shanahan, Robert Griffin III, Rex Grossman AP

My Friday morning four-city ISDN radio tour, via a connection so clear that people like Rob Gronkowski may think I own a time machine, goes from Houston to Miami to Buffalo to Dallas.

Today’s final stop, with Shan and RJ of 105.3 The Fan in Dallas, included a mention from the hosts of a recent tweet suggesting that Washington coach Mike Shanahan wanted to draft quarterback Ryan Tannehill, not Robert Griffin III.

After my time machine brought me back to West Virginia, I started researching the issue.  As it turns out, Bomani Jones of ESPN and elsewhere said Monday on Twitter that Stephen A. Smith of ESPN “says he has sources who say shanahan wanted tannehill, rather than trade up for griffin.”

The Redskins held the sixth pick in the 2012 draft.  They sent that pick, a second-round pick, and two future first-round picks to St. Louis for the ability to move up to No.2.

While Smith doesn’t specifically cover the NFL, he’s in a sufficiently prominent position to be privy to things that the average person wouldn’t know.  So if Smith is indeed hearing now from a reliable source that Shanahan wanted Tannehill in April 2012, what does it possibly mean?

It means that Shanahan could be trying either to save his job in D.C., or to lay the foundation for his next job elsewhere.

Though many believe that Shanahan hand-picked G.M. Bruce Allen and that Shanahan both cooks the meal and buys the groceries, Allen was actually hired first.  It’s possible (but highly unlikely) that Allen made the call to trade up for Griffin over the objection of Shanahan, who wanted to take Tannehill and keep the extra picks.

It’s also possible (and less highly unlikely) that owner Daniel Snyder forced Griffin onto both Shanahan and Allen.

Under the Shanahan-wanted-Tannehill theory, if there’s any truth to it, the decision to take quarterback Kirk Cousins in round four of the 2012 draft becomes even more intriguing.  Perhaps Shanahan insisted on having a Gus Frerotte ready to go in the event Griffin ended up being another Heath Shuler.

The more likely explanation is that Shanahan now knows the bell will soon be tolling for him, and that he needs to craft a narrative that will help get him the Andy Reid treatment in January, with an owner of a downtrodden franchise concluding that a consistently successful coach like Shanahan is the guy to come in and instantly turn things around.

Shanahan possibly has begun this process by publicly pointing on Monday to the $36 million in cap penalties.  Though he mentioned that dynamic as reason to expect improvement in 2014, it’s not a stretch to see it as the identification of an excuse for poor performance in 2013.

The absence of a second-round pick in 2012, a first-round pick in 2013, and a first-round pick in 2014, coupled with the need to use a fourth-round pick not on other positions but on a potentially capable backup to a potential bust, makes it even harder for Shanahan to thrive in Washington.

Even if Shanahan didn’t want Tannehill, floating the notion that he did could help Shanahan find a suitor for 2014.  Reid’s instant success in Kansas City will make certain members of the FFCA even more attractive.  With plenty of teams destined to be looking for coaches soon — and with Daniel Snyder possibly one of them — it’s never too early for Shanahan to start getting the attention of billionaires who tend to know who they want to hire well before they decide to fire the guys who are currently coaching their teams.

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118 Responses to “Report (sort of): Shanahan wanted to stay put for Tannehill”
  1. hughjassisback says: Nov 22, 2013 10:21 AM

    Washington = Train Wreck

  2. n0hopeleft says: Nov 22, 2013 10:21 AM

    RG3 = the complete destruction of the Redskins already pathetic franchise.

  3. steelersaregodsteam says: Nov 22, 2013 10:22 AM

    Lose-lose.

  4. sportnorcal says: Nov 22, 2013 10:24 AM

    Shanahan should have asked Elway to come out of retirement instead.

    It’s obvious he is only a ‘great coach’ with #7 behind center.

  5. 8to80texansblog says: Nov 22, 2013 10:25 AM

    Man I thought my Texans were a dumpster fire this year……

    Guess I should be thankful….

  6. ProDolphinsTalk says: Nov 22, 2013 10:27 AM

    Tannehill is going to have the better career he just needs an O-Line that can get along well enough to block somebody!!

  7. taintedlombardis says: Nov 22, 2013 10:28 AM

    Screamin’ A. Smith says a lot of things.

    The Redskins problem is the interior O-Line. Particularly the center and RG Chester. These guys cannot form a pocket and look like they are on roller skates. Shanahan’s undersized O-line stinks. Shanahan and his son are the problem. Has their ever been a successful father-son coaching tandem?

  8. steelersaregodsteam says: Nov 22, 2013 10:28 AM

    Bomani Jones of ESPN and elsewhere said Monday on Twitter that Stephen A. Smith of ESPN “says he has sources who say…
    ___________________________________

    Credibility fail

  9. ProDolphinsTalk says: Nov 22, 2013 10:29 AM

    And we thought Mike Vick was the king of mobile QB coach killers…. Well done RG3, well done.

  10. raiderlyfe510 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:30 AM

    Redskins fans do not believe it. I remember them saying they are TWO QBs that they really like in the draft they needed the 2nd pick to get one of them. The two QBs were basically graded the same by them and they didn’t care who was taken #1. The Tannehill story is laughable. Bruce Allen doesn’t have the cache to override Shanahan.

  11. jetsjetsjetsnow says: Nov 22, 2013 10:31 AM

    ‘Self inflicted wounds’.

    I’m looking at you LV…

  12. fm31970 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:31 AM

    Nepotism never works.

  13. iced107 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:32 AM

    RG3 = Redskins Go 3′n out

  14. Bmorelikeray52 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:34 AM

    Man, the Redskins are such a train wreck of a francise with their over-rated head coach and their over-rated one year wonder QB, IRG3. The Baltimore Ravens are a first class orginization that wins championships. The Ravens are Maryland’s team. Always were and always will be.

    #I’mdoingmybestlogicalvoicessaysimpersonation

  15. nfl4days says: Nov 22, 2013 10:34 AM

    You know, maybe they will change the name. Sounds more like they should be called RG3s. btw, where are all the people saying RG3 is better and more mature than Cam? Cam has never thrown anyone under the bus, while RG3 does it every week. Cam saved his coaches job while king griffin is gonna get shanahan booted.

  16. themage78 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:34 AM

    How have they not won more? Granted RG3 isn’t healthy because of the injury, they still have an ok defense and enough playmakers on offense to win some of these games.

    The final INT of that Eagles game was just a bad throw RG3 should’ve never thrown.

  17. savocabol1 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:36 AM

    The media creates their own witch hunts so they can have stuff to talk about. None of this is fact and none of this can be proven.

  18. 106reasons says: Nov 22, 2013 10:36 AM

    This report (from Dallas…*ahem*) is incorrect with a seed of truth.

    The truth (and it’s pretty well-known in Washington) is that Shanahan preferred Luck initially, but knew he couldn’t get him. I doubt anyone is surprised at that.

    He then set about going after his #2 QB — Robert Griffin III. When it became clear he was in a bidding war with Cleveland and the cost of moving to #2 overall kept rising, he let management know that he was perfectly fine staying put and getting Tannehill, who he felt was raw but athletic enough to do many of the same things they have done with Robert.

    I have no idea if Robert is “hurt” by this, but if he is, he shouldn’t be. Mike still preferred him and was fine with moving up to 2 to get him. He just let Bruce Allen know that Plan B (Tannehill) was acceptable to him as well.

  19. Stockburn says: Nov 22, 2013 10:37 AM

    ( source ) Shannyleaks is the mastermind behind this bunch of garbage. It’s a last ditch effort from a failing coach to save his derriere. It won’t work.

    You’re screwed Skin Fan.

  20. larondontlikeugly says: Nov 22, 2013 10:38 AM

    This article (and ‘sort of’ report) a joke from top to bottom. Shanahan chose to come to Washington under the full-agreement that he would have total control over player personnel. Bruce Allen handles contract structure/salary cap. Does anyone remember that the Browns actually offered more picks for Griffin– but that Shanny’s close relationship with Fisher sealed the deal for Washington?

  21. 106reasons says: Nov 22, 2013 10:38 AM

    I forgot to mention above that Plan C was draft OLine and pick up R Wilson in 2nd.

  22. reppster says: Nov 22, 2013 10:41 AM

    I’ve been waiting for this implosion since the day this guy got drafted. Hope the guy makes a career of it still but let’s be honest RG3 type QBs don’t ever live to to the hype.

  23. zonedogz says: Nov 22, 2013 10:41 AM

    After the debacle of the Dick Jauron era in Buffalo, Bills fans were salivating for Shanahan when he was considering retuning to the NFL and toyed with the Bills. Today, even after 3 years of Chan Gailey , I’d bet Bills fans are glad he didn’t end up in Buffalo.

  24. annes22 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:41 AM

    RG111 is overated. He needs to interview better too, he’s horrible at speaking.

  25. wryly1 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:42 AM

    … and then there’s the Kyle issue.

  26. taintedlombardis says: Nov 22, 2013 10:42 AM

    Ok defense? Playmakers on offense? This defense is going to be the worst in Redskins history when it’s all said and done. On pace to allow over 500 points for the season. 300 yards in the first half to the Eagles.

    And who are these playmakers on offense? Leonard Hankerson? Josh Morgan? Aldrick Robinson? Garcon can make some plays, and Alfred Morris is a beast, but that’s it.

  27. raiderlyfe510 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:43 AM

    sportnorcal says:
    Nov 22, 2013 10:24 AM
    Shanahan should have asked Elway to come out of retirement instead.

    It’s obvious he is only a ‘great coach’ with #7 behind center.
    —————————————
    When Shanahan had #8 Steve Young under center his offenses were literally poetry in motion. If it wasn’t perfection it was pretty close to it. Defensive coordinators would break down the film to see where they went wrong after getting torched…and after watching the film they would just give the 49ers offense a thumbs up for great execution and throw the film away.

    Shanahan is one of the great coaches. Redskins you all are almost there….be patient.

  28. dirtychazz says: Nov 22, 2013 10:44 AM

    What if this is all a ploy to get Shanny in Miami next season…being that everyone in Miami will be fired…

  29. FinFan68 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:45 AM

    Before the trade for RG3 it was thought Tannehill would go to the Redskins. There were discussions on Miami sites about a possible trade up to get in front of Washington. Why is this story so hard to believe or why is it presented like Shanny’s escape plan?

  30. coltzfan166 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:46 AM

    Lol at the people that said my Colts should’ve drafted RG3 and not Luck

  31. taintedlombardis says: Nov 22, 2013 10:47 AM

    @raiderlyfe510

    Shanahan used to be “one of the great coaches”. But I think ultimately he should be a coordinator as his defenses always stink and his inability to correct that is why Denver canned him.

    His past accomplishments can only propel him for so long.

    Now, the $36 million cap penalty was a mother…

  32. hughjassisback says: Nov 22, 2013 10:50 AM

    The dumpster fire comment was awesome!

  33. terrellblowens says: Nov 22, 2013 10:50 AM

    This report isn’t fooling anyone. No way did Shanahan not have control over which QB would be be forever associated with his tenure as coach.

  34. taintedlombardis says: Nov 22, 2013 10:51 AM

    Luck doesn’t look that stellar. He’s more Alex Smith than Peyton Manning at this point. Plus, playing in the worst division in football also helps. Team game.

  35. kevpft says: Nov 22, 2013 10:52 AM

    Those cap penalties should not be forgotten. Mara’s personal vendetta has ruined this division the last couple years, and hobbled its development into the future. He kept the pack from running away from his Giants, but in the process he’s made football worse by hamstringing his two division rivals.

    I’m a long-suffering Cowboys fan (sorry, being redundant there), but I like to see a strong and competitive division. These cap-penalty shenanigans have hurt the quality of the game, and it’s annoying to think that one owner’s ego is taking away from what could be some classic, meaningful football play.

  36. jamaltimore says: Nov 22, 2013 10:52 AM

    If shanny wouldn’t spend so much time on his tan maybe he could figure out what’s going on with the team.

  37. kimmycho233 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:53 AM

    I don’t really doubt this report.. Tannehill seems likely more like Shanahan’s ideal Qb (a pocket passer).

  38. conormacleod says: Nov 22, 2013 10:55 AM

    I hope people can now stop complaining about the Vikings winning that game and not getting a chance at drafting RGIII. The kid was awesome in college, when 95% of the opposing defenses go to work in the real world after college. In the NFL? Well, he’s just one more injury away from also going to work in the real world.

  39. JMClarkent says: Nov 22, 2013 10:56 AM

    Kyle Shanahan is an overmatched offensive co-ordinator. Shanny could still be a decent coach, but he is tethered to his mediocre kid (which will cost him his job).

  40. thatstinks says: Nov 22, 2013 10:57 AM

    LOL . I can’t stand Shannahan but I really think that this Shannahan wanted Tannehill over RGIII thing is highly misleading . He just didn’t want to give up all the picks that were needed to move up to get RGIII . If you look at the glaring weakness Washington has on D I can see his point .

  41. rdrs68 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:57 AM

    Oh the burden of being a self appointed genius-don’t know who to blame or fire or what excuses to use next. Does that make him an ex genius?

  42. richiebburg says: Nov 22, 2013 10:59 AM

    Here’s the thing. I hate the Redskins but this is a little overblown. RG3 needs to work on some things but he isn’t terrible and is better than Ryan Tannehil.. Lets get real on that one… They stole Alfred Morris in that draft. If there was a re draft Morris is a 1st rounder. They have a solid foundation on offense to build on (RG3, Garcon, Alfred Morris, Trent Williams, Jordan Reed) Their defense is swiss cheese minus Kerrigan and Orakpo and if they can add a few pieces and get some late round draft steals on defense they will be fine.

  43. janvanflac says: Nov 22, 2013 10:59 AM

    Shanahan is toast.

    Not sure who would want to take over though for a franchise with a controversial name, a horrible owner, cap problems and no draft picks.

  44. ultimatenflfan says: Nov 22, 2013 11:02 AM

    @themage78

    ok defense????

    Problem is their Defense and Special Teams STINK!!!

  45. duece5 says: Nov 22, 2013 11:04 AM

    8to80texansblog says: Nov 22, 2013 10:25 AM

    Man I thought my Texans were a dumpster fire this year……

    Guess I should be thankful….

    duece5 says:

    Well, I believe you right the first time, but actually, both, and throw my Vikes in there, that all 3 are dumpster fires.

    Both Houston and the Vikes will have a new QB and the Vikes will get a new HC and an offensive coordinator that has more than 2 pages in our playbook!!!!

  46. 1rockyracoon says: Nov 22, 2013 11:05 AM

    Reid had a lot of success with the Eagles, it’s just that it was time for him to start over somewhere else. Shanahan hasn’t proven in Washington that he can build a young team in today’s NFL. If I was picking a coach I definitly wouldn’t hire him. His successes came over a generation ago. I do give him credit for getting the current story out. Can’t be mad at him for trying to secure another job.

  47. what did you do to my tio says: Nov 22, 2013 11:05 AM

    What a trainwreck circus thi shas become. Washington apparently envies the Jets and wants to compete with them for the title of most pathetic franchise in sports.

  48. wannabear says: Nov 22, 2013 11:05 AM

    Does injury play any role in his set back? up for yes, down for no. Thanks

  49. Kaz says: Nov 22, 2013 11:06 AM

    IRGIII, RGKnee, RGME, RG3-7…….classics.

  50. ma5terbla5t3r says: Nov 22, 2013 11:12 AM

    The front office just doesn’t get it. They pay Garcon as a top flight receiver They have no secondary. In fact, they have two or three (at the most) solid defensive players. They have no interior O-Line and a repeat drug offender at LT. They have a below average TE and two middle of the road RBs. They STILL overpay for washed out or about to be washed out FAs.

    So the solution is obviously to trade up to get an undersized, running QB. Those types of guys always end up getting hurt…and then where are you?

    Tannehill stinks. RG3 is already busted up. This just goes to show you that this front office has no eye for talent whatsoever and no idea how to draft. Shanahan is an average coach who benefitted from Elway and Terrell Davis. And you put this guy in charge of the draft? Even hiring him was a mistake…he’s proven himself as a loser who does an excellent job of grabbing coat tails.

    And on top of all that, the DC “fan base” goes ballistic when the Skins make the playoffs and lost in the first round.

    Disaster all around. If Snyder weren’t such an awful human being, then I might actually feel sorry for this franchise.

  51. sc711 says: Nov 22, 2013 11:12 AM

    Mr Snyder…..line 2 is “Karma”…..would you like to take the call?

  52. ma5terbla5t3r says: Nov 22, 2013 11:16 AM

    richiebburg says:Nov 22, 2013 10:59 AM

    Here’s the thing. I hate the Redskins but this is a little overblown. RG3 needs to work on some things but he isn’t terrible and is better than Ryan Tannehil.. Lets get real on that one… They stole Alfred Morris in that draft. If there was a re draft Morris is a 1st rounder. They have a solid foundation on offense to build on (RG3, Garcon, Alfred Morris, Trent Williams, Jordan Reed) Their defense is swiss cheese minus Kerrigan and Orakpo and if they can add a few pieces and get some late round draft steals on defense they will be fine.
    __________________________________

    This is a joke, right? Garcon is someone to build on? Trent Williams is not going to get suspended again? Morris is a number on RB? Please tell me you’re joking. And you think this front office is capable of getting draft steals? One, they have proven themselves to be completely clueless in the draft. Two, how are they going to do this WHEN SNYDER KEEPS TRADING AWAY DRAFT PICKS???

  53. bigdon76 says: Nov 22, 2013 11:16 AM

    Well when the likes of Steven A Smith start talking football I change the channel. Nba analyist. Please stick to what you know which aint football.

  54. crewdawg says: Nov 22, 2013 11:18 AM

    At least RG3 loses games in a more entertaining fashion. What’s Jake the snake up to these days?

  55. ravenswhat says: Nov 22, 2013 11:21 AM

    I love how everyone is bagging o RG3 here when Shanny has been a shot horse ever since Denver ran him out of town.

    Oh and RG3 is WORLDS better than Tannehill. Give me a break.

  56. scmems07 says: Nov 22, 2013 11:21 AM

    not hard to believe, tanne fits the mold of a shanahan qb more than griffin, strong arm pocket qb like elway.

    rg3 drafted #2 while giving up their future over the next 3 drafts or stay there, keep the draft picks and get tannehill who is a better pocket qb and seems to be picking up the game faster than rg3 and will no doubt not be injured as much. i’d go after tannehill too.

    tannehill has shown more accuracy, better pocket presence and stays calm while being rushed, rg3′s throws are all over the place, even last year during his breakout season his recievers had to make unbelievable catches and contort their bodies to make up for the bad placement of the throw, and he makes terrible decisions with the ball.

  57. jfmod says: Nov 22, 2013 11:26 AM

    Since the Redskins are imploding, perhaps its time to re-brand anyways.

    Jerry Jones is standing by to assist you, Mr. Snyder.

  58. joetoronto says: Nov 22, 2013 11:28 AM

    Stockburn says:
    Nov 22, 2013 10:37 AM
    ( source ) Shannyleaks is the mastermind behind this bunch of garbage. It’s a last ditch effort from a failing coach to save his derriere. It won’t work.

    You’re screwed Skin Fan.
    **********************************************
    Right on, this would be VERY Shanahan like, he’s done this before.

    Anything to deflect blame from himself.

    That’s why he’s known as “The Rat.”

  59. jdbaker01 says: Nov 22, 2013 11:32 AM

    The good news for Shannahan is Miami might be looking for a HC soon so he could get the opportunity to coach Tannehill after all.

  60. blackqbwhiterb says: Nov 22, 2013 11:33 AM

    Isn’t it the least bit suspicious to anyone that the first time anyone has heard this notion is a year and a half after the draft day in question? If there was a debate over which qb was to be taken, we’d have heard about it long before now…. What’s next? Change the name, Griffin’s not getting along, now they never really wanted him…. Next week the media will make up another story.

  61. realfootballfan says: Nov 22, 2013 11:36 AM

    Sure he did. No one gushed over Griffin leading up to that draft more than he did, even over Luck. Who do people exactly think has been running that organization since he came to Washington. This is one of the main reasons people don’t like Mike, he’s not accountable for his actions (see the annual under the bus throwing of Denver defensive coordinators as his post Elway career didn’t go so hot). Own it, Mike, because it’s not going to make a difference in a month and a half anyway; you’re getting fired along with your son.

  62. meetthegrouch says: Nov 22, 2013 11:38 AM

    8to80texansblog says: Nov 22, 2013 10:25 AM

    Man I thought my Texans were a dumpster fire this year……

    Guess I should be thankful….

    duece5 says:

    Well, I believe you right the first time, but actually, both, and throw my Vikes in there, that all 3 are dumpster fires.

    Both Houston and the Vikes will have a new QB and the Vikes will get a new HC and an offensive coordinator that has more than 2 pages in our playbook!!!!

    At least they both have 1st round picks.

  63. getyourownname says: Nov 22, 2013 11:43 AM

    When the ship is sinking, the rats will scurry out as best they can. So, whether or not he really thought this back then, under the current circumstances Shanny (like anyone else) can be expected to keep his powder as dry as possble.

    The real joke are those Skins fans who used to chortle at how much better they came out of this deal than the Rams. StL still has to draft properly to achieve the full trade value, but the table has been set.

  64. 21stnprime says: Nov 22, 2013 11:46 AM

    he is lobbying for the upcoming opening in miami.

  65. sandersmarcus10 says: Nov 22, 2013 11:47 AM

    All this is so funny, because when the guy helped saved last season with his play NOBODY even mentioned half the crap that is being said but all of a sudden he’s a bust and he’s the problem some of yall need to wake up and get your minds right!

  66. crush22 says: Nov 22, 2013 11:49 AM

    raiderlyfe510 says:

    Redskins fans do not believe it. I remember them saying they are TWO QBs that they really like in the draft they needed the 2nd pick to get one of them. The two QBs were basically graded the same by them and they didn’t care who was taken #1
    ________________________________

    Those people who did the grading should be fired.
    Luck >>IRG knee

  67. whatjusthapped says: Nov 22, 2013 11:52 AM

    The famous Walker trade from Dallas to the Vikings still stands as the worse ever but this one came close

  68. gward90 says: Nov 22, 2013 12:00 PM

    Ugh good riddance! This team is talked about way to much ( coming from a fan ). Robert isnt the problem, Shanny isn’t the problem. Snyder is big part of the problem. Write an article about how terrible the O line is or something. Or Kyle Shannhans terrible play calling, or how Jim Haslett has brought doom everywhere he has gone in the NFL. Robert is not the issue he’ll bounce back and be fine. Keep Shannahan for consistency purposes, then sell/buy the farm.

  69. elvis2013 says: Nov 22, 2013 12:03 PM

    “Shanahan possibly has begun this process by publicly pointing on Monday to the $36 million in cap penalties. ”

    Not a Skins fan, but what Mara did to the skins and the Cowboys was a foul, putrid act. I personally hope to have front seat rows when karma and the football gods pay him back in spades…

  70. blu4l1fe says: Nov 22, 2013 12:04 PM

    It is actually interesting news, if there is any truth behind it. One can argue that Shanahan may, more than likely, saw something in Tannehill that he thought Griffin didn’t have or wasn’t totally sold on the latter to be the franchise QB that the team was looking to draft. In any case, hindsight is 20/20, as always, but who knows, maybe Griffin would have worked with another team and Tannehill may have done the same for the skins.

  71. mizzousooner says: Nov 22, 2013 12:09 PM

    No way to know for sure unless one of 3 people fess up. But I’ve thought since I first heard of the trade between Washington and St Louis, that it was most likely Dan Snyder that was the driving force behind the colossal move to acquire Griffin.

    I gotta think Shanaratfink is toast! He and Bob are now sparring against one another in the media and the team is a dismal suckfest.

    This trade will go down as a dismal failure. It will hold the Skins back for years to come. It should be placed on the pages between “the new Coke” and “the new and improved Schlitz”.

  72. wisconsinhillfolk says: Nov 22, 2013 12:10 PM

    Any owner who would be fool enough to hire the Shanahans or even one of them is… uh… a damn fool.

  73. waussau says: Nov 22, 2013 12:20 PM

    Everyone is way off. I’m a Skins fan so hear me out for a second.

    This franchise is all about making a buck. The only reason Danny wants to win is because it would bring in more money. Griffin was purely a way to get people into the seats after a year of having the Grossman vs John Beck show. If Daniel Snyder thought he could make more money by changing the name of the team he would.

    It is unfortunate for the real Redskins fans like myself that call this place home.

  74. taintedlombardis says: Nov 22, 2013 12:21 PM

    What could Stephen A.’s source possibly be? He can be entertaining, but this reeks of ESPN taking something and running with it on a whim…

  75. therealsmiley says: Nov 22, 2013 12:22 PM

    If Mike Shanahan wanted Tannehill he would have drafted him….he makes all football decisions. So all this conjecture is BS. Hail!

  76. djstat says: Nov 22, 2013 12:32 PM

    RG 3 continues to get off the hook. He is a selfish player who has bought into his own hype.

  77. zoxitic says: Nov 22, 2013 12:33 PM

    The “end games” have begun.

  78. chawk12thman says: Nov 22, 2013 12:35 PM

    Every team has multiple plans, wishes and “what-ifs” during prep for the draft. What is done is what they did/wanted based on what was available and agreed too. Not really more to read into this.

  79. chuckchillout says: Nov 22, 2013 12:41 PM

    This is fantastic!

    Those “trade away a boatload of picks for the right to draft him” players almost never pan out. Not with the team that drafted them, anyway; a lot of times they have to move on to have success.

    And really not even then. It’s like it messes them up psychologically.

    I believe this report, and I think it’s Shanahan simultaneously sticking it to RGIII and Snyder, as well as auditioning for another hc job.

    Which he will definitely get.

    Also, Shanahan’s got a history of being right about these things (McNabb).

  80. heman1132 says: Nov 22, 2013 12:42 PM

    I agree the trade is tough to swallow at this point. Bruce Allen who has a relationship with Fisher in ST.Louis was the person who wanted the trade. I still think this will be worth it in the end. Rg3 despite having a tight buthole and playing stupid and wreckless isnt why the skins suck. Its there defense. It makes me sick. The Skins offense is actully pretty decent,,but the d stinks. They need to fire hasslet and rebuild the D. We need Safteys and Corners.. -EF

  81. dirtydrynn27 says: Nov 22, 2013 12:44 PM

    Richieburg,your comment is by far the most intelligent one on here

  82. raaz227httr says: Nov 22, 2013 12:48 PM

    Stephen A Smith has NO cred!

  83. jagmankane says: Nov 22, 2013 12:51 PM

    “I wanted Tannehill” = “I want that soon to be vacant Miami job”

  84. chiadam says: Nov 22, 2013 12:51 PM

    Because making Ryan Tannehill the 6th pick in the draft is supposed to make him look smart? Don’t get me wrong, the trade was stupid. Everyone knew it was stupid when they did it. But Tannehill is not a franchise cornerstone, and you better get yourself a cornerstone with the 6th pick.

  85. hehateme2 says: Nov 22, 2013 12:54 PM

    Tannehill> RGkneeIII

  86. @Cereal_22 says: Nov 22, 2013 12:57 PM

    If RG3 smartness up & stops getting himself wacked I think Wash. will be fine. He’s not back to 100%, last year he showed that he’s pretty good. Washington will be a coveted head coaching job because of RG3 if Shanny gets canned as he should.

  87. skinsfan91 says: Nov 22, 2013 1:20 PM

    Anything having to do with RGIII is gold. As evidenced by the amount of replies anything with his name receives.

  88. zerole00 says: Nov 22, 2013 1:22 PM

    Can you blame Shanahan? I wouldn’t mind Mrs. Tannehill showing up to watch practice either.

  89. skinsfan91 says: Nov 22, 2013 1:24 PM

    Yeah, everyone thought the RGIII trade was stupid when RGIII was having the best rookie year of all time. You 20/20 experts are hilarious.

  90. SmashMouthFootball says: Nov 22, 2013 1:32 PM

    Even Redskins have to be asking if he’s really worth 3 first rounds and a 2nd round pick

  91. chisox35 says: Nov 22, 2013 1:32 PM

    Wrong Stephen A. Mike and Kyle actually wanted Foles BAD. I vividly remember them spending the most 1 on 1 time with Foles than the other QB’s. I now think they didn’t want to pick him with the first pick for fear of looking stupid. Now people should better understand the Kirk Cousins pick. Intriguingly Foles was actually Philly’s second choice behind Wilson. Dumbass Cleveland picked Weeden and it caused teams to hold off on QB needs till the third round.
    Anyway If I was running the team I would trade Griffin in the off season and start over. Not that Griffin is a bad player it just how the media portrays him. NOW he seems overhyped. NOW the way he acts on the sidelines and the way he celebrates TD’s is an issue. If he stays he might cause the GM, Shanahans, and Haslett to loose their jobs.

  92. realfootballfan says: Nov 22, 2013 1:36 PM

    chiadam,

    This is the icing on the cake that makes this story even more silly if it was true. Tannehill was a reach at 8 to begin with and has shown nothing to the contrary except Dolphin fans are so used to horrible quarterbacking, they actually think he is good.

  93. jeffbye says: Nov 22, 2013 1:38 PM

    They would probably have had the same record both last year and this year had they just stuck with Cousins, who they drafted in the 4th.

  94. essentialsausage says: Nov 22, 2013 1:50 PM

    The Redskins gave up way too much to get RG3, but he has played well. People are acting like Griffin is a total bum, but he’s actually having an okay season for someone coming off the major injury Griffin had. It’s not Griffin’s fault that the Redskins mortgaged their future to get him.

  95. goodjudgementprevails says: Nov 22, 2013 1:51 PM

    Shanahan and Jr. Shanahan are both a joke. Senior should be out of the league for mismanaging players and leaving RGIII in during the Seahawks game to only blow out his injured knee. I don’t understand how anyone can point the finger in regards to Washington at anyone else, you lead and set an example from the top down. The only example Shanahan sets is a bad one.

  96. rufustfireflyjr says: Nov 22, 2013 1:56 PM

    Fact no. 1 (which the Shanny haters never fail to mention)- Shanahan has never gotten to, or won, a Super Bowl as a head coach without Elway as his QB.

    Fact no. 2. (which NO ONE ever mentions) – Elway never won so much as a playoff game without Shanahan as either his head coach, O-coordinator or QB coach.

    Fact no. 3 – Shanny’s success in Denver should be credited to BOTH of them (and Shannon Sharpe, Terrell Davis and others). Football is the ultimate team sport and success or failure is a team effort.

  97. dbfan4ever says: Nov 22, 2013 2:07 PM

    payback for the RG3 comment about having problems with the predictability of the play calling

  98. bleedgreen33 says: Nov 22, 2013 2:09 PM

    Hahahahaha! Hahahahaha! Hahahahaha! Too funny!

  99. harrisonhits2 says: Nov 22, 2013 2:10 PM

    rufustfireflyjr says:

    Fact no. 1 – Shanahan has never gotten to, or won, a Super Bowl as a head coach without Elway

    Fact no. 2 – Elway never won so much as a playoff game without Shanahan as either his head coach, O-coordinator or QB coach.

    Fact no. 3 – Shanny’s success in Denver should be credited to BOTH of them
    ____________________

    Fact 4 – Number of Shanahan coached teams to reach the Super Bowl without salary cap cheating = 0

    Fact 5 – Number of Shanahan coached teams to win the Super Bowl without salary cap cheating = 0

    Fact 6 – Shanahan goes to DC and immediately commits salary cap cheating costing the Washington millions in cap space

    Shanahan- 20+ years of salary cap cheating and counting

  100. macjacmccoy says: Nov 22, 2013 2:15 PM

    Did you seriously just call Shanahan consistently successful? Did you know that the NFL kept playing after the new millennium started? Yea a shocker I know.

    Shanahan more often than not has been at the helm of under performing or just plain bad teams since Elway retired.

    There’s a reason why everyone in Denver tried to run him out of town 3 years before they were able to accomplish the feat.

  101. bigmarv77 says: Nov 22, 2013 2:45 PM

    In what world is Tannehill better than RGIII? Even with the offseason surgery Griffen statistically is better across the board….I won’t even mention last year. Tannehill has not averaged 7 yards per completion yet in his career….RGIII is at 7.73. Even with the down season RGIII’s QB rating is 93.2 and with the “down” year is 83.6 while Tannehill is at 81.5. Tannehill is a 59% career completion while RGIII is at 62.7……what are we really talking about here? If the draft were today and you knew what you knew now and you took Tannehill instead of Griffin you’d be an idiot…..the fact is all the deficiencies that people claim Tannehill has, RGIII has also with bad O-line, no offensive talent etc….

  102. nitzenbaum - not yer momma's 'skins fan says: Nov 22, 2013 2:50 PM

    Do the ‘skins look horrible at times – yes.
    Have they lost a couple of close games – yes.
    Are they 2 games (minus tie breaker) out of 1st place – yes.
    Does their team have areas to improve – yes.

    If you want to look for a dumpster fire, look over there at Atlanta. Playoff team that has won 2 games for no real reason other than losing their WR. I’d much rather be the Redskins than Atlanta.

    Saying Shanahan couldn’t win a Super Bowl without Elway is ridiculous. You do know that, right? He did win 2. Can your coach say that? Doubtful, unless his name starts with a B or C.

  103. therealsmiley says: Nov 22, 2013 2:51 PM

    The Redskins are ranked 6th in total offense….hmmmm….regret drafting RGIII…I don’t think so. Hail!

  104. toonloonboon says: Nov 22, 2013 2:55 PM

    rufustfireflyjr says:

    Fact no. 1 – Shanahan has never gotten to, or won, a Super Bowl as a head coach without Elway

    ——-

    either has:
    Vince Lombardi without Bart Starr
    Chuck Noll without Terry Bradshaw
    Bill Walsh without Joe Montana
    Bill Belichick without Tom Brady

    whats your garbage point??

  105. tavisteelersfan says: Nov 22, 2013 3:03 PM

    In the dark years, I really enjoyed Riggins and the Redskins, and still carry a softspot for them.

    I have been certain that the Father/Son team in DC is the worst structure in football … a true QB killer.

    Now this. RGIII is an amazing young talent … smart, athletic, committed. But young … and probably playing when he shouldn’t be (and probably talking when he shouldn’t be). It would be nice to think his coaches would help and or protect him here.

    Its very sad, a different kind of sad watching the Father Son team destroy the reputation of McNabb. But not that different.

  106. praetorian12 says: Nov 22, 2013 3:06 PM

    “I’m only hanging on to watch you go down…”

    –U2, “So cruel” It seems apropos….

  107. wizrduvodz says: Nov 22, 2013 3:17 PM

    Wow. Say RGIII and the worms come out like it just rained. He is a good QB. He’s not worth what they gave up, at least short term. Every one forgets how bad most of these great qb’s teams were in the beginning. And he’s still just a kid. I have no doubt he’ll eventually see how narcissistic he presents himself. As for hisistakes this year, he went an entire year without practicing football.
    No one will succeed. Look out NFL. The Redskins will be a team to be reckoned with, just not this year. HTTR!!!!

  108. rasta028 says: Nov 22, 2013 3:41 PM

    Tanny frickin sucks RGIII is head over heels better then thar scrub, anyone who thinks different is clueless.
    Fire no defense Shanahan Now please!

  109. jjackwagon says: Nov 22, 2013 4:03 PM

    Shanarat is now setting up he excuses for his eventual firing. But his biggest mistake was hiring Shanarat Jr to run the offense.

  110. bigblackanvil says: Nov 22, 2013 5:31 PM

    Please explain how our trade with the Rams is building a Ram’s dynasty? As far as I can see they haven’t accomplished jack poo with the two 1st rd picks so far. HTTR

  111. scmems07 says: Nov 22, 2013 5:33 PM

    “the fact is all the deficiencies that people claim Tannehill has, RGIII has also with bad O-line, no offensive talent etc….”

    last time i checked williams is a pretty good LT, morris is a very good rb and has HUGE holes to run through with a good o line clearing the way, and even though there is no “star” at wr, there are good players there. rg3 has much more talent to work with on his team, the fact that tannehill has led his team to 5 wins with the worst o line situation in history makes me vote for him over rg3 who basically has the same team as last year, upgraded TE and still can’t win.

    and nobody has it worse than the dolphins at the o line.

  112. davereckon says: Nov 22, 2013 6:34 PM

    rufustfireflyjr | Nov 22, 2013, 1:56 PM EST
    Fact no. 1 (which the Shanny haters never fail to mention)- Shanahan has never gotten to, or won, a Super Bowl as a head coach without Elway as his QB.

    Fact no. 2. (which NO ONE ever mentions) – Elway never won so much as a playoff game without Shanahan as either his head coach, O-coordinator or QB coach.

    Fact no. 3 – Shanny’s success in Denver should be credited to BOTH of them (and Shannon Sharpe, Terrell Davis and others). Football is the ultimate team sport and success or failure is a team effort.

    ——————————-

    The probable reason that no one ever mentions number 2? Elways playoff record prior to 1995 was 7-6. Dont let the facts get in the way though.

  113. skins1970 says: Nov 22, 2013 6:39 PM

    The only sources Stephen A Smith has is the voices he hears in his head.

  114. rasta028 says: Nov 22, 2013 7:36 PM

    LOL at all you RGIII haters.
    dude’s coming off major surgery in only his 2nd season as a pro.

    Morons!

  115. rmcnulty234 says: Nov 22, 2013 8:44 PM

    with an owner of a downtrodden franchise concluding that a consistently successful coach like Shanahan is the guy to come in and instantly turn things around. Is this a typo??

  116. doe22us says: Nov 23, 2013 12:17 AM

    All of a sudden Tannenhill has better arm strength and a better fit than RG 3 lmao, yall are crazy men. Tannenhill cant even hit Wallace deep. When RG 3 was lighting it up last season this comparison is ridiculous at best even on a recovering ACL, no way Tannenhill should be mentioned in the same breath.

  117. skins1970 says: Nov 23, 2013 1:17 AM

    Why is everyone ignoring the fact RG3 is coming back from a knee inury? There has never been a QB who has not struggled after a ACL injury. Also Shanahan is not to blame for this Dr Andrews is, he is the one who should have told Mike to get him out of the playoff game when he saw RG3 limping badly in the 2nd quarter of that game.

  118. ratboygl says: Nov 23, 2013 8:51 PM

    My vote for most idiotic comment on this article:

    “RG3 = Redskins Go 3′n out”

    Redskins Rankings:

    Points per Game: 13th in NFL
    Yards per Game: 6th in NFL
    3rd Down %: 4th in NFL

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