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Davis facemasked, RG3 kicked in the groin, refs see neither


In the third quarter on Monday night in Washington, the officials missed two personal fouls in rapid succession, one on each team.

First, 49ers tight end Vernon Davis lost a fumble — but only after his facemask was blatantly grabbed, which the officials didn’t see. Davis’s fumble was reminiscent of a play on Sunday, when Vikings running back Adrian Peterson fumbled after Packers linebacker A.J. Hawk grabbed his facemask. As I noted this morning, the NFL’s rules do not allow the referee to use instant replay to correct missed personal fouls.

Then, on the ensuing Washington possession, as Robert Griffin III threw a pass, he was kicked in the groin by 49ers linebacker Aldon Smith. The officials didn’t see that, either.

Smith’s groin kick left Griffin in pain, and it may leave Smith lighter in the wallet. Last year, when Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh kicked Texans quarterback Matt Schaub in the groin, it cost him a $30,000 fine. Smith may be fined a similar amount.

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69 Responses to “Davis facemasked, RG3 kicked in the groin, refs see neither”
  1. guitarmy204 says: Nov 25, 2013 10:32 PM

    Interesting to see the reaction to this since it looks way more intentional than Suh’s last year, and everyone lost their minds about Suh’s. Where are the people calling for a suspension?

  2. gdublud says: Nov 25, 2013 10:32 PM

    Niner fan her, that should have been called. Even if you kick a girl there.

  3. logicalvoicesays says: Nov 25, 2013 10:32 PM

    The NFL cheating vs the Redskins? No WAY. #NationalFixedLeague

  4. sc711 says: Nov 25, 2013 10:32 PM

    Hurry! Hurry! 0MAHA! ( Tiny Tim voice )

  5. thestrategyexpert says: Nov 25, 2013 10:33 PM

    It’s just not practical for them to see everything. You either have a system in place that monitors the game and adjudicates stuff that needs to be corrected, or you don’t. The NFL has no system in place or plan for one. It’s just the way it is.

  6. nfl4days says: Nov 25, 2013 10:33 PM


  7. f1restarter says: Nov 25, 2013 10:36 PM

    If anyone deserves a kick to the groin, it’s the guy who drafted Griffin #2 overall.

  8. kremis says: Nov 25, 2013 10:36 PM

    This will continue until we get rid of those dang replacement refs!
    What? You mean they are not replacement refs? Shoot, I couldn’t tell the difference!

  9. Kaz says: Nov 25, 2013 10:37 PM

    That was a kick right out of the Ric Flair playbook….

  10. brucetrimble says: Nov 25, 2013 10:38 PM

    Refs are so inconsistent this year it looks as though the replacement refs are back on the field.

  11. calizcowboyz says: Nov 25, 2013 10:38 PM

    And logicalvoicesays …….. “who who dat? whoo who dare”. hail to us and the knee.. ” LMAO
    I PROMISE you this boy is about 13 and trolls of all
    ages follow him like the bieb.
    hey new nick name the logiaclbibersays …. LOL
    HTTR = HailToTonyRomo THE END!

  12. frank booth says: Nov 25, 2013 10:39 PM

    guitarmy204 says: Nov 25, 2013 10:32 PM

    Interesting to see the reaction to this since it looks way more intentional than Suh’s last year, and everyone lost their minds about Suh’s. Where are the people calling for a suspension?
    It only happened like 10 minutes ago. Give it another 5 or 10 minutes. Seriously.

  13. fumblenuts says: Nov 25, 2013 10:40 PM

    This slow game is a friggin’ joke……..

  14. kd75 says: Nov 25, 2013 10:40 PM

    It isn’t RG3’s fault…He just has a very large groin!

  15. gdublud says: Nov 25, 2013 10:40 PM

    Gruden just nailed it, said this is where he earns his “C” on his jersey. Dead on.

  16. kd75 says: Nov 25, 2013 10:41 PM

    Shouldn’t he be wearing a cup?

  17. cocheese000 says: Nov 25, 2013 10:41 PM

    Never underestimate the kick to the groin.
    –bas ruten

  18. jucam1 says: Nov 25, 2013 10:42 PM

    RG3 is probably praying this this season ends now. He looks awful and the Shannahans don’t have s clue. At least the Washington professional team can regain their title as bottom dwellers of the NFC East. Make sure someone keeps Logical away from bridges and tall buildings

  19. sgtdiver says: Nov 25, 2013 10:43 PM

    but Suh did it on purpose while flipping over. I get it though, Aldon Smith is a good guy…

  20. janvanflac says: Nov 25, 2013 10:45 PM

    I almost feel sorry for the Indigenous Peoples. RGIII is taking a beating, he looks like a little kid getting tossed around by his older brothers. Tell you what, Shanahan isn’t long for this franchise.

  21. nj9er says: Nov 25, 2013 10:45 PM

    Suh kick was laying on the ground and extended his leg when he didn’t have to. Smith jumped up and was pushed back, a lot harder for it to be intentional with a big body in front of you. If it was intentional it was a 10 point shot.

  22. taintedsaints2009 says: Nov 25, 2013 10:49 PM

    Refs are screwing up this year…to the point of being not much better than the replacements

  23. cags777 says: Nov 25, 2013 10:50 PM

    And people are still complaining about the replacement refs from last year? Oy……

  24. johngaltwho says: Nov 25, 2013 10:57 PM

    I’ll admit it. Im a complainer about missed calls by the refs but even more annoying is the fact that after almost every play, some player is giving the “throw the flag sign” to the ref or openly complaining about the call they didnt get. Its getting really old. I think openly requesting a flag should be a 5 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty and only the head coach should be able to ask for clarification of a penalty flag (or its absence). Players should play and refs officiate. We dont see refs making suggestions to running backs about how to hold the ball in traffic; I see no reason for players to lobby the refs on when to call pass interference or holding.

  25. mykpfsu says: Nov 25, 2013 11:03 PM

    These are not the penalties you are looking for.

  26. gdublud says: Nov 25, 2013 11:04 PM

    you can spin it, but you cant spike it…

  27. donttrip22 says: Nov 25, 2013 11:07 PM

    Both QBs suck just kamp has a little bit better team around him RGIII will be gone in about two or three years hes definitely the worst QB of them two sad they wasted there picks on him glad im not a redskins fan dang im gald

  28. bigwayne75 says: Nov 25, 2013 11:08 PM

    Logical must not watch the game because if he did, he would see that Skins fix themselves. They are just so bad.

    Fixed, right, what cause Robbie Griffin to throw that pick and fumble, that’s not one else fault but his. #RGONEYEARWONDER

  29. The Shoeman says: Nov 25, 2013 11:10 PM

    Robert Griffin III , used to be a talented QB.

    Shameful . .how these HORRIBLE Washington coaches, ruined this guy for his career.

    Any other team / coach , could’ve progressed with R.G., and win alot of football games.

    the Shanahans destroyed any future ,this kid had.

    Only the “truly delusional Washington-fans”,(and you know who you are) thinks this horrible display of football is progress.

    and Snyder loves it . . all the way to the bank

  30. bigwayne75 says: Nov 25, 2013 11:12 PM

    The Skins are back to where they are used to before last season the Skin were in last place for straight seasons.

  31. ragingmouse says: Nov 25, 2013 11:15 PM

    The skins are just terrible…

    The OL is going to get Rg III killed !!!!

    Definitely not the best team in the league!

  32. seatownballers says: Nov 25, 2013 11:15 PM

    Refs aren’t negatively impacting the game, the skins oline is

  33. allidoiswin55 says: Nov 25, 2013 11:18 PM

    The redskins are just terrible, I mean they really have to be one of the worst 3 teams in football. How they beat anyone the rest of the season is beyond me. If you can’t get up for MNF and make a game of it at home you plain suck.

    Rg3 looks like a place with no confidence and his team has non in him. He’s not mentally strong enough yet to get through it, just needs time but bc he was such a darling last season I’m afraid they won’t allow it he will need a new team to rejuvenate his career if he doesn’t next season.

  34. chicagogiantsfan says: Nov 25, 2013 11:19 PM

    logicalvoicesays says:
    Nov 25, 2013 10:32 PM
    The NFL cheating vs the Redskins? No WAY. #NationalFixedLeague
    Logic is right! The refs shouldn’t be cheating to help the Skins opponents. The Skins can lose bad enough on their own, they don’t NEED help!

  35. tinbender2000 says: Nov 25, 2013 11:19 PM

    logicalvoicesays says: Nov 25, 2013 10:32 PM

    The NFL cheating vs the Redskins? No WAY. #NationalFixedLeague

    Right after Davis gets his facemask ripped, no call. What’s your point? At least RG No Knee won’t feel it and Smith will get fined for kicking a girl. LOL

  36. gerryf19 says: Nov 25, 2013 11:21 PM

    This just in, the nfl is fining Suh for setting a bad example for Smith

  37. philly4lyfe says: Nov 25, 2013 11:23 PM

    how bout them deadskins? rg3 looks like he’s completely given up. solid use of the #2 pick getting such a great team leader. even if it is because he wants shanahan gone, its still pathetic. especially coming from a guy with a military family background. its ok though. they got their one division title. now its back to the basement for the next two decades again.

  38. kelsoj1 says: Nov 25, 2013 11:28 PM

    Fine the referees too.

  39. inbillwetrust says: Nov 25, 2013 11:28 PM

    Hahaha logical voice says! Just like the pats “cheated” their way to victory last night the skins are being “cheated” tonight. It has nothing to do with tom brady and BB or the skins awful o line. Cant wait til they change their name cuz its coming! Haha this is gonna be a great week

  40. nflgiant says: Nov 25, 2013 11:28 PM

    he sucks and gets hit in the groin-sounds pretty gross.

  41. mrlaloosh says: Nov 25, 2013 11:29 PM

    Whiner fans complaining. What a concept. The Seahawks will end the Haibow season. NO PLAYOFFS FOR YOU!!

  42. punchymcgee says: Nov 25, 2013 11:30 PM

    Negative on the Suh comment. Suh was falling down backwards in an almost summersault. There was also an offensive lineman underneath him that he was engaged with prior to the kick. He also was facing away from the QB. I did not see the Aldon Smith kick to compare. But if Suh’s was intentional maybe he is actually Bruce Leroy (Sho ‘Nuff)

  43. hdahs143 says: Nov 25, 2013 11:32 PM

    RG3 was also pancaked out of bounds with no flag.

    While yesterday Cam Newton slipped and fell while stepping out of bounds, and Reshad Jones was flagged for a personal foul.

    Convoluted rules, and inept, inconsistent application of these rules, are really making the games almost unwatchable.

  44. thestrategyexpert says: Nov 25, 2013 11:35 PM

    Innocent kick to the groin = fair play
    Innocent throw of ball to the ground = RED ALERT!

  45. bigblackanvil says: Nov 25, 2013 11:38 PM

    If you gonna invest so much into RG3 why not protect him and get an o~line. He literally has no time to even blink before he gets hit. And please don’t start talking Cousins. He is awful. If anything bring in Rex and let RG3 get completely healthy. HTTR

  46. pgcubano says: Nov 25, 2013 11:38 PM

    skins o-line can’t pass protect to save their lives

  47. chunkderrrty says: Nov 25, 2013 11:38 PM

    The situation with the refs is similar to that of a player slacking off after he gets his big money contract, now that they’ve signed they’re cba they can slack off for a couple of years years.

  48. dodgerlakerfan1969 says: Nov 25, 2013 11:45 PM

    Refs are so inconsistent this year that it seems like they have an agenda and are fixing games. Hmmm. Why would they do that? Google the Fix Is In and you might just start believing.

  49. sleepsoncouches says: Nov 25, 2013 11:57 PM

    Am I the only person with a DVR? The kick was absolutely not intentional. He got pushed up and the natural bodily reaction is to try to regain balance. That’s exactly what the leg whip was. No ill will here…

  50. kanemoney says: Nov 26, 2013 12:00 AM

    You should get ejected for kicking a dude in the nuts.

  51. veence69 says: Nov 26, 2013 12:12 AM

    The NFL does NOT want to deal with media circus that would come along with a team with a racist-ass mascot playing in the Superbowl. Face it. And as long as RG3 starts while Cousins rots on the bench, they’re going to helped out along the way.

  52. gammynomnom says: Nov 26, 2013 12:16 AM

    Hey Washington, remember when you guys called a ref the N word and got HIM suspended?

    LOL, those guys won’t be seeing any kicks to your groins for a while. Enjoy!

  53. calininerfan says: Nov 26, 2013 12:46 AM

    Not sure if Smith did it on purpose, either way a fine I guess. Face mask was on purpose. I can see both players getting fined.

  54. chinahand11 says: Nov 26, 2013 1:05 AM

    I bet it hurt.

  55. oreo51 says: Nov 26, 2013 1:16 AM

    St Louis is doing back flips. They traded the #2 which became RG3 for three firsts and a second and one of those is going to be a top five pick. What a deal! The NFC West just keeps getting stronger.

  56. genoinabottlenyj says: Nov 26, 2013 2:12 AM

    Yet they saw the ball spike by Kap. Probably flagged him cause he made the ref walk another 10 feet…

  57. chrisernst82 says: Nov 26, 2013 2:17 AM

    I don’t think that was intentional or was Suh’s. He was engaged with a lineman at the time and wasn’t even looking that way. The NFL sure has some straight ninja’s because Suh was going to the ground face first impossible to kick in the nutz on purpose. Aldon was being engaged by a lineman and being lifted up while looking the other way. Thanks to the internet and hack reporting this stuff is common place. What websites wont do for a couple extra hits.

  58. slammincamnewton says: Nov 26, 2013 2:46 AM

    So what you’re saying is that the NFL has indeed turned into the WWE. REF AIN’T LOOKIN!!!

  59. mclovin07 says: Nov 26, 2013 3:17 AM

    The facemask, I could see them missing. They miss those types every week in the NFL.

    Now the kick to the groin, how they missed that is incredible.

    I hope we don’t ever reach this point but at some point you gotta ask if coaches shud be able to review stuff like this…problem is games would go 4 hours…every week.

  60. maniakalol says: Nov 26, 2013 4:25 AM

    People literally think that was intentional?

    How did we ever land on the moon…

  61. 1bigtex says: Nov 26, 2013 6:00 AM

    BTW, wasn’t Fred Davis supposed to be a “top 5 TE” and a “matchup nightmare”. I thought I saw him out there, but I can’t find his name in the stat sheet.

    Oh well, I’m sure the Skins will still figure out how to go 14-2. I read that they are God’s team so it must be true.

  62. gregmorris78 says: Nov 26, 2013 8:04 AM

    I wish the refs would penalize me and take my remaining game tickets away. Then I wouldn’t be concerned with going the rest of this season. Just an awful performance, embarrassing really.

    I don’t think I care that griff got kicked in the snatch. We been getting kicked every game. Thought we turned a corner last year. Looks like the naysayers were right.

  63. 63deuceman says: Nov 26, 2013 8:04 AM

    I dunno, just watched the Smith/RG3 play. This looks more intentional to me than the Suh kick. Why does Smith lift his leg simultaneously with being pushed back into Griffin?

    With that said, you can see Smith immediately felt bad about it – you can see him try to pick Griffin up off the ground afterward… Kind of a “my bad bro” moment.

  64. bigjd says: Nov 26, 2013 8:05 AM

    If you complain about the refs they won’t give you the calls. Joe Gibbs used to always complain to the league and then the refs would always miss calls against them. Trent Williams got a ref suspended now all sudden the refs don’t see obvious calls. The league should monitor this and suspend more refs for missing calls.

  65. mt3chn1k says: Nov 26, 2013 8:05 AM

    What about the play where Aldon Smith runs around Trent Williams and gets a free clean shot at RG3’s knee? I understand it’s okay if you’re blocked into someone, but he was scott free.

  66. johnelwayishorsefaced says: Nov 26, 2013 9:25 AM

    I can’t imagine what you people would be saying if Suh did this. The difference between the two is that last nights kick by Smith was blatantly intentional.
    Smith has already proven himself to have a questionable character so where are all the people calling him dirty and saying he shouldn’t get the benefit of the doubt? Hypocrites.

  67. l0glcalv0icesays says: Nov 26, 2013 9:36 AM

    I bet Roger Goodell paid Aldon Smith to do that. #GoodellHatesTheRedskins #Unfair

  68. william1939 says: Nov 26, 2013 3:08 PM

    1st it wasn’t a kick; a kick is with the foot, it was a knee. 2nd it wasn’t intentional Smith was engaged with a lineman and his attention was on him; not RGIII. It was an unintentional knee that hit RGIII’s groin.

  69. balzer41 says: Nov 26, 2013 4:48 PM

    f1restarter says:
    Nov 25, 2013 10:36 PM
    If anyone deserves a kick to the groin, it’s the guy who drafted Griffin #2 overall.


    One of the best comments ever posted here!

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