Flacco doesn’t seem enthused about lining up at wide receiver

AP

Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco lined up at wide receiver on a few plays on Sunday when Baltimore brought in the more mobile backup quarterback Tyrod Taylor to try to give the offense a spark. Flacco didn’t sound too happy about that after the game.

Asked after the game if he liked lining up at wide receiver, Flacco answered, “I want to line up behind center.”

Flacco also made clear that he doesn’t want this to become a common occurrence, saying that playing wide receiver, is “fun for a little bit, but that’s it.”

It’s unsurprising that Flacco would feel that way. Not many quarterbacks voluntarily give up time under center. And Taylor’s performance was uneven: He did run for 17 yards the first time he touched the ball, and he also picked up three yards on a third-and-2 run, but the Jets seemed to figure him out quickly, as his other two runs went for a loss of six and a loss of seven. Taylor’s only pass was incomplete.

Of course, if the Ravens think they need Taylor to provide a spark, Flacco deserves a lot of the blame. His production this year has looked more like what you’d expect from a quarterback on the verge of being benched than a quarterback worthy of the $120 million contract Flacco signed in the offseason. The easiest way for Flacco to ensure that he doesn’t line up at wide receiver is to play better when he’s lined up behind center.

98 responses to “Flacco doesn’t seem enthused about lining up at wide receiver

  1. With that FAT contract, you will do what they ASK you to do!

    You understand? Now go line up in the slot!

  2. What did people expect? Joe Flacco is an average quarterback that went on a hot streak last year, and was the beneficiary of some very lucky plays.

    Not to mention that he lost binky wide receiver in Anquan Boldin, who bailed him out so many times last year.

  3. You sound like a little brat; for $120 million you ought to be happy to line up anywhere to help the team win.

  4. well that’s what Baltimore gets,, in no way shape or form did he resemble a $120 million QB..

    He is clutch, but you need to rely on the other pieces on the team in order for him to shine and for the Ravens to have a chance..

    They let all those pieces go,, and now look at the product..

  5. At the salary they’re paying him, he should be lining up under center, in the slot, and at LT all at the same time.

  6. Since the Ravens realised that Flacco’s “throw it deep and pray my receiver makes a play or the safety is picking his nose or the refs throw a flag” style of offense might not be the answer long term, they need to start seeing if Taylor can play.

    I found it interesting watching the Ravens/Jets game the stat that they put up about Flacco throwing beyond 15 yards. Last season he had 16 TDs and 2 picks, this year was something horrid like 5 Tds and 10 picks. Flacco has incredible arm strength, arguably the strongest in the league. But this is the argument that was made against Flacco last year, by everyone who doesnt slurp the Ravens. His receivers were the difference. Flacco threw prayers in Boldon’s direction last year and Boldon made plays, but now Boldon is gone, and Flacco is no longer so mighty. Just saying

  7. I love Ozzie but after Flacco turned down the type of contract even a good QB shouldn’t turn down last year, I would have franchised Flacco this season to see how he would do with lesser weapons and a defense in transition (that I fully expected to be better than last year’s Ravens D by this year’s end, and it is). The great QBs (the ones “worth”120 million contracts) may struggle a bit, but they even out. He hasn’t. Better to overpay him for one year to find out which he was than to give him a giant contract.

  8. “ELITE” joe flacco:

    29th in QB Rating in NFL
    24th in completion percentage in NFL
    5th most interceptions in NFL
    17th in touchdowns in NFL
    15th in yards per game in NFL
    13th in passing yards in NFL

  9. And here come the cincy and Steelers fans.

    drrustbelt, when’t the last time you guys sniffed success? At least Steelers fans can talk about the glory days. It gets old and boring but they do have that.

  10. He followed up with the offhand comment, “I mean, really, who would want to play receiver for the Ravens? Have you seen their QB?”

  11. I know it is easy to say this now…but maybe it would have been a better idea to see what another team offered Flacco and either match it or let him go. Yes, he won a super bowl but how is this team going to have a chance to go back when they have tied their hands behind their back for years to come?

  12. Right.

    And if the Broncos asked Peyton Manning to line up at wide receiver to run a wildcat play, I’m sure he’d do it no questions asked.

    Same goes for Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc.

    Just because Flacco wants to line up under center versus run a wildcat offense for 5-10 plays a game doesn’t translate to “not a team player.”

    The Ravens hardly ever used the wild cat this entire season up until yesterday. Why they suddenly decided to do so is beyond me. And it’s not like the wild cat offense resulted in big gains or results for the offense yesterday anyway.

    And yet again, the comments here show that almost no one here knows that the dollar value of an NFL contract means diddly squat. You need to pay attention to guaranteed money and salary cap hits, and nothing else.

  13. CKL says:
    Nov 25, 2013 12:22 PM
    I love Ozzie but after Flacco turned down the type of contract even a good QB shouldn’t turn down last year, I would have franchised Flacco this season to see how he would do with lesser weapons and a defense in transition (that I fully expected to be better than last year’s Ravens D by this year’s end, and it is). The great QBs (the ones “worth”120 million contracts) may struggle a bit, but they even out. He hasn’t. Better to overpay him for one year to find out which he was than to give him a giant contract.

    But if you franchise him you’re still paying him 20 mill because it’s the avg of the top 3 qb salaries and then the next year if you franchise him you’re on the hook for another 25 mill. so essentially, you are asking the Ravens to find another guy that can take them to 5 straight playoffs including a SB win…within a year of that franchise tag. Unless you’re planning to draft Russell Wilson again,that just doesn’t happen.

    People harp on his contract so much but his granteed mony is less than Romo and they will prob restructure in a few years. You can’t expect to keep a SB winning QB and pay them on the cheap after a SB win. It’s not reality. He chose to take a chance by not signing for decent money and he told the owner he was going to gamble before last year. He won. Dude has big balls. How can you not respect that?

  14. What’s dumber than paying Flacco 120 mil? Lining your 120 mil investment up at receiver where he can get hurt.

  15. tsk tsk all you haters. and especially you drrustbelt. win something before you comment. and im sure steelersnation would be very receptive to having ben going out to catch passes

  16. For all the Joe’s terrible comments I suggest you all go back, sit down, and then think about your own teams QB? Joe wins more than any of them ,how’s Arod doing for the packers?, what about Kap and RGknee.

    Look at the body of work or just look at the wins and there’s not many guys who can post what joe has done. They’ll beat Pittsburgh Thursday night and be right back in the Playoff hunt. You think NE wants the Ravens in the playoffs? I doubt it because Joe owns BRADY!!

    Sometimes he looks lost and asleep but overall he’s earned every penny he’s made from the Ravens and I bet they would give him the same contract today that they did last year.

  17. The PFT Flacco haters are always changing their narrative:

    First it was “Flacco is nothing, he only throws checkdowns to Ray Rice, he sucks!”

    Now with an ineffective Ray Rice (who is usually ineffective in the playoffs except against NE in 2010 and against Denver in 2013): “Flacco sucks, he just throws up jumpballs! His receivers bail him out more than ne Qb EvAr!!!!”

    Yet, these same people would have you believing Matt Stafford and Andy Dalton with Calvin Johnson and AJ Green (the defintions of a jumpball receivers)are first ballot HOFers at QB.

    My oh my, fantasy football has destroyed peoples brains when it comes to football.

  18. Jump ball Joe wants to stick to what he’s good at. Wing it up there are far as you can throw it and hope for the PI call.

  19. I have a question for all of you arm chair GMs- what would you have done if you were the Raven’s GM???

    lets say the ravens don’t pay that contract, now they have tyrod tailor as the only QB on the roster, and the 32nd pick in an already QB weak draft.

    so before you spout off about how bad it was to pay him all that money, at least come up with what you would have done differently

    and BTW matt ryan is tied for the worst record in the entire NFL despite having a much better supporting cast on offense and got paid almost as much as Joe did and nobody has any problems with that?????

  20. @ravenswhat
    That’s what I’d say, too, if my team’s season was doing the porcelain swirl. You’ve obviously forgotten just how obnoxious your fellow fans got over the off-season. They earned what they are getting now.

  21. O Mighty Joe, you “earned” a huge payday and now you are mailing it in. Blame Ozzie for the lack of passing options, insane to think Torrey and some other no names could work out.

    BUT now Joe isn’t happy because the team wants to shake things up. Dood, a little perspective would go a long way. You are suckin worse than you have ever sucked before. What did you expect?

  22. This guy is a bum, thank god they took those terrible McDonalds commercials off tv of slacco and keaperdick..

  23. Flacco is worth every penny of what he’s being paid. That’s what it costs to have a QB who has a strong arm, is durable and is clutch in the playoffs. After watching that game I’m sure the Jets would pay many tens of millions to have Joe. Geno made Tebow and Sanchez look like solid QBs.

  24. I’m still in shock over the 120 million dollar contract.

    Shock.

    Flacco complaining just adds to the shock.

    He should be cleaning the toilets in the locker room and still be smiling for that much money.

  25. The fact this guy has the richest contract in the history of the sport is beyond absurd. This was obvious to virtually everyone outside of the ravens organization and fan base the moment it was announced. Bert is mediocre, but is paid like he’s the greatest of all time. Laughable.

  26. bennyb82 says:
    Nov 25, 2013 12:33 PM
    I know it is easy to say this now…but maybe it would have been a better idea to see what another team offered Flacco and either match it or let him go. Yes, he won a super bowl but how is this team going to have a chance to go back when they have tied their hands behind their back for years to come?

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    Do you guys not understand how it works? This isn’t the NBA, there are no offer sheets and then a nice window to match said offer when you are an unrestricted free agent in the NFL.

    The risk in losing a franchise QB is REAL when it comes to unrestricted free agents.

    The Ravens gambled along with Joe a year ago and they came out on the wrong side of the numbers. Joe earned it by risking what he did and the Ravens honored their side of the bargain. Trust me, he’s not making what hemakes if he came out on the losing end of that gamble and they miss the playofs last year.

  27. A couple of weeks ago Roethlisberger made comments about being unhappy about lining up in the wildcat. Ravens fans ripped him, Steelers fans defended him. Now Flacco makes basically the same comment and Steelers fans rip him and Ravens fans defend him. Shocking.

    I think that more frustrating for either of them than lining up as a wide receiver in a gimmick scheme is being so ineffective in a game that the team turns to a gimmick scheme. Ben seems to have rebounded from his early season woes and strung together a couple of good games. Falcco has shown in the past that he can pull it together, as well. At the end of the day, instead of complaining, both just need to do their jobs to the point that you’d never even consider moving them out from under center.

  28. @bangarrang says: “one of the worst contracts in the history of the NFL”

    So you’re able to measure a contract, 11 games in? Wow, you’re good! So does that mean you can also predict the entire winter season on November 25th? It’s pretty cold today, so does that mean the next 4 months are going to be the coldest winter ever?

    When are you people going to realize that you’re worth what someone is willing to pay you. You are what the market bears. If the Ravens didn’t sign him, someone else would’ve overpaid him. Do you think Matt Ryan is earning his money? Or is it too soon to judge?

    Lets give it until at least the end of the season, or maybe 2-3 years before we make bold statements. C’mon Man! You just sound silly!

    JoesisprobablybetterthantheQBonyourteam

  29. Flacco lined up at receiver because the Jets’ can only win if they shut down the run. On Thursday, he may do more of the same because the only way the Steelers’ can win is to take a cheap shot at the QB’s head.

  30. Southpaw2k says:
    “And if the Broncos asked Peyton Manning to line up at wide receiver to run a wildcat play, I’m sure he’d do it no questions asked.

    Same goes for Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc.”

    You know what’s funny? That you apparently believe Flacco deserves to be mentioned in the same conversation as the NFL’s best QBs. Maybe you could rewrite your comment and replace with more appropriate names such as Eli Manning, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo, and Andy Dalton. And it is being generous to Flacco to list these guys as his peers.

  31. Anyone that really believes Flacco got a $120M contract has got to be borderline retarded. Remember, Mike Vick got a “$100M Contract” 2 years ago. How much of that did he get? He got $3M guaranteed in 2012 on his “$15.5M” salary. You guys need to read the contract. Flacco’s cap hit this year? $6.8M. The next 2 years? $14.4M. Sam Bradford and Mark Sanchez are @ $12.5M THIS year. Eli Manning? $20M cap hit this year. To lead the league in picks.

    So yeah. Flacco @ $6.8M this year and $14.5M the next 2 years isn’t really so bad. He’ll of course restructure before 2016. Its all but guaranteed. He got a $29M bonus.

  32. @ southpaw2k who says: Nov 25, 2013 12:38 PM

    Right.

    And if the Broncos asked Peyton Manning to line up at wide receiver to run a wildcat play, I’m sure he’d do it no questions asked.

    Same goes for Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc.

    Just because Flacco wants to line up under center versus run a wildcat offense for 5-10 plays a game doesn’t translate to “not a team player.”

    The Ravens hardly ever used the wild cat this entire season up until yesterday. Why they suddenly decided to do so is beyond me. And it’s not like the wild cat offense resulted in big gains or results for the offense yesterday anyway.

    And yet again, the comments here show that almost no one here knows that the dollar value of an NFL contract means diddly squat. You need to pay attention to guaranteed money and salary cap hits, and nothing else.
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    Well said!
    We all know that every media outlet these days panders to angry, stupid and bitter “fans,” so its always nice to hear from a reasonable person.

  33. He has every right to be mad, because he knows what’s going on behind these trick play calls.

    It’s Jim Caldwell admitting he has no idea on how to fix the Ravens O. Surest sign of this is wacky trick plays. They are never a sustainable identity, too chancey and dangerous if you have players lining up in non-traditional positions. Does anyone think they are going to turn the Wildcat into a viable offense? Obviously not. This is an attempt to get a few cheap results to save face.

  34. Its kinda funny how people are bashing Flacco for this years performance but also dont realize two things that are going wrong with the team. The o line is just garbage. They cant protect Joe in the passing game or run block to save their lives. Our offense is a traditional offense that runs and passes effectively to set up play action. Since theres no run game theres really nothing Joe can do but throw the ball allowing defenses to scheme better in the passing game. And FYI i would assume that 25 other gms would love to have flacco on there roster than what they have now. Joe isnt really making 120 million hes really making about 7 or so this year and next than the cap jumps up to around 20 a year which is when they probably going to restructure his contract his guarantee money is about 40 million which is not bad giving his body of work in the last five seasons. Fantasy football has clouded people’s judgement so much that if hes not playing like Drew Brees, throwing 3 tds a game than hes a bum which is never going to happen.

  35. northstarnic says:
    Nov 25, 2013 1:13 PM
    Southpaw2k says:
    “And if the Broncos asked Peyton Manning to line up at wide receiver to run a wildcat play, I’m sure he’d do it no questions asked.

    Same goes for Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc.”

    You know what’s funny? That you apparently believe Flacco deserves to be mentioned in the same conversation as the NFL’s best QBs. Maybe you could rewrite your comment and replace with more appropriate names such as Eli Manning, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo, and Andy Dalton. And it is being generous to Flacco to list these guys as his peers.

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    You know what’s funny? You missed my point entirely. You could add Eli, Ben, Romo, Matt Ryan, and any other QB getting paid big bucks in the league to the equation. None of them are used in wild cat formations, nor are they paid to. If Flacco is being paid as the Ravens’ franchise QB, then he shouldn’t have to line up at wide receiver. And any of those other QBs would be just as annoyed at not lining up under center as Flacco is.

    Not to mention the small fact that you also ignored, that being the Ravens didn’t use the wild cat offense at all this season prior to yesterday. And not only did they not use it until yesterday, but it didn’t even pay dividends when they did use it. The Ravens should stick with their game plan as it is and not get cute just for sake of doing so.

  36. Whole article is out of context.

    Flacco laughed after the comment was made. And Harbaugh said it was done to help the RUNNING game…

    But haters gonna hate.

    #XXXV #XLVII

  37. northstarnic says:
    Nov 25, 2013 1:13 PM
    Southpaw2k says:
    “And if the Broncos asked Peyton Manning to line up at wide receiver to run a wildcat play, I’m sure he’d do it no questions asked.

    Same goes for Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc.”

    You know what’s funny? That you apparently believe Flacco deserves to be mentioned in the same conversation as the NFL’s best QBs. Maybe you could rewrite your comment and replace with more appropriate names such as Eli Manning, Jay Cutler, Tony Romo, and Andy Dalton. And it is being generous to Flacco to list these guys as his peers
    _________
    The common thread in the QBs listed in the first post is that they are all SuperBowl winners. Add Eli to that list, and you have them all included in there.

  38. What do you expect Joe to say? What, non-wildcat running QB wants to line up as a WR? Big Ben doesn’t want to. Neither does Manning or Brady.

  39. Whatever works! There is no “I” in TEAM. They pay you $120M to play therefore you line up where they tell you to line up. And if the defense doesn’t cover you like they did, well they should throw you the ball and you either run for the 1st down or you stand there and throw it when a receiver comes open crossing the field. You do what must be done until they get the o-line and running game fixed, then you go back under center. Lead by example, not by whining! WHAT???

  40. Lots of people are obviosly still VERY upset that Joe and the Ravens played the best when it mattered the most last season and are getting nervous that the ravens are still in the Playoff mix.

    It takes a great QB to beat Andrew Luck, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning consecutively. It’s even more imporessive that Flacco did it in perfect 11td-0INT fashion that only the Great Joe Montana was able to match.

    The only people hating on Flacco’s contract are jealous Steelers, Broncos, Patriots and 49er fans.

    Of course there are probably some bitter Browns and Bengals fans in there too…

  41. Over-rated, nothing more nothing less. I’ve been saying it for the longest, Low Joe Flacco only became a starter because Troy Smith got sick. Last year, he won those BIG games because of great defense, his WRs making plays and the opposing team’s incompetent secondary play. He really needs to hand Jacoby Jones that SB MVP, because he EARNED it, not Flacco. Can anybody accept the facts and the reality of the situation. I know Ozzie regrets that contract. Just sayin…

  42. Ravensterps: They DID put that part of the quote in. So actually that’s just you attempting to find fault in their article when in fact they’re spot in. Flacco has NEVER been worth the contract he received and the Ravens are scrambling to figure out how to correct that mistake. Flacco needs to shut up and do what he’s told-he knows he makes mistakes and isn’t accurate.

  43. doctorrustbelt says:
    Nov 25, 2013 12:22 PM
    “ELITE” joe flacco:

    29th in QB Rating in NFL
    24th in completion percentage in NFL
    5th most interceptions in NFL
    17th in touchdowns in NFL
    15th in yards per game in NFL
    13th in passing yards in NFL

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    Actually:

    12th in completion percentage

    northstarnic says:
    Nov 25, 2013 12:57 PM
    The fact this guy has the richest contract in the history of the sport is beyond absurd. This was obvious to virtually everyone outside of the ravens organization and fan base the moment it was announced. Bert is mediocre, but is paid like he’s the greatest of all time. Laughable.

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    System quarterback or not, including the playoffs his Ravens have won more games in his first five years than any other team in NFL history. So, I don’t know what you want people to tell you.

  44. PRO: Tall enough to get open occasionally if a QB could get it to him. Would not get confused about the routes. Knows not to run a 8-yard pattern on 3rd and 10. Sneaky fast if he gets going,

    CON: By the time he got to top speed the play probably would be over. Not likely to outrun Ed Reed on the go pattern. Big target for hard hitting SBs. Double break pattern would present severe risk of incurring personal injury.

    On the other hand, Ben’s option is being asked to line up as an offensive lineman.

  45. Flacco or Joke-o as most call him is lucky the NFL loves the Harbaugh brothers. There is no way this Flake is an NFL QB. He makes Brady look tough. He is chuck and duck. Hit him early and the Ravens can not win. Thursday night will prove this. You heard it here first… Jarvis Jones coming out night, he will crush lil Joe!

  46. Amazing how many comments it took to get somebody to point out how amazingly dumb it is to have your starting QB lined up at any other position, where defenders would have to be idiots NOT to cheap shot the daylights out of him.

    Doesn’t matter if his compensation is 100 million dollars or a pack of camels.

  47. I don’t care who you are, for that kind of money if your coach says …”you gotta go out there and take a beating, take it and then say, ‘Do you need me to take it again?'” You’re THEIR investment, and if they want you at slot or WR or punter, shut up and line up…

  48. I stand by my statement from a few weeks ago regarding PIT’s use of the wildcat and lining Ben up at WR. Nobody is fooled. It also applies here. I don’t blame JBJ for not liking it because he’s a QB, and last I checked QBs like to line up under center and throw the ball.

  49. northstarnic – Rogers has the biggest contract in league history (guaranteed money, which is all that matters). Matt Ryan second. Rogers is hurt, and Ryan is having a really bad year. In fact, he’s leading his team to the first pick in the draft. Flacco usually plays well November on…lets see if the ravens get a better early return on their investment than Atl is getting in Ryan.

  50. sbchampsagain says:

    The only people hating on Flacco’s contract are jealous Steelers, Broncos, Patriots and 49er fans.
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    That’s a curious list of supposed jealous fans. Shouldn’t you list the teams that have LESS lombardi’s than the ravens?

  51. Flacco is starting to be much more like fellow-malcontent Ben Roethlisberger than Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers who are all true Elite QB’s. Those four guys would line up at any spot that gives their team a better chance of winning regardless of where that may be and without making any statement that could be interpreted as a complaint. Without a big, physical WR like Boldin to bail him out Flacco has struggled. That is clearly evident especially in the won/lost column. However, he was supposed to be a leader, the kind of player who inspires those around him to greater glory. Maybe he will show himself to be that guy but he hasn’t done so yet.

  52. For someone who’s making $120 million to be an average QB he should volunteer to play receiver, corner, guard, kicker, sell tickets, perform at halftime and pour Gatorade.

  53. Do you guys even realize Flacco has better carreer playoff statistics than everyone not named Brees, Brady, and Rogers.

    Yes, even better than golden boy Peyton Manning.

    This is what he is payed for. When you recognize what real football is, and understand the true essence of this game is responding to adversity, stepping up when it counts, and not padding your regular season fantasy stats then choking in the playoffs, only then come back and make a knowledgeable comment.

    Otherwise go back to your Madden or fantasy football, or tecmo bowl or whatever you were playing.

    Good day sirs!!!!

  54. davemishsr says:
    Nov 25, 2013 2:09 PM
    Flacco is starting to be much more like fellow-malcontent Ben Roethlisberger than Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers who are all true Elite QB’s. Those four guys would line up at any spot that gives their team a better chance of winning regardless of where that may be and without making any statement that could be interpreted as a complaint. Without a big, physical WR like Boldin to bail him out Flacco has struggled. That is clearly evident especially in the won/lost column. However, he was supposed to be a leader, the kind of player who inspires those around him to greater glory. Maybe he will show himself to be that guy but he hasn’t done so yet.

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    Oh, so Brady, Peyton, Eli, Brees, and Rodgers would all line up at wide out if their head coaches told them to do so with no questions asked?

    Well gosh, why don’t they all just do that then?

    Oh wait – that’s right, it’s INSANELY STUPID for a quarterback to line up at wide out, even for a single play during a game. As Rolltide510 put it so perfectly, any defensive back lining up opposite a quarterback at wide out for a wildcat play is begging the defense to take a 15-yard unnecessary roughness penalty and clean the QB’s clock, possibly giving him a concussion or worse. Why would any offense regularly ask their highest paid player to do something so ridiculously dumb?

  55. To the Ravens fans who didn’t like what I said…I’m not even really slamming Flacco.I’m slamming the whole NFL fan, media and team mindset of OMG WHEN A QB HAS A RING THEY ARE GOD and all QBS should be paid like bosses when they aren’t. There are 4 guys that I don’t think many people would argue are true real constant gamechangers : P Manning, Brady, Brees and Rodgers. Those guys by past consistent elite performance are never taken off the field for gimmick plays because their teams are simply never ever ever better when they are off the field. Those are the ONLY guys who should make the top $$. Now, I am not at all begrudging anyone who gets top $$ when they are not those 4 guys. I’d take whatever anyone would pay me for sure. It’s not the player’s fault.

    I would actually take Romo over a lot of those other guys who always have decent/solid teams around them because he plays in an atmosphere of constant turmoil and chaos and he’s still a very good QB. I think his occasional yips could be managed playcalling wise and situationally by a good HC and playcaller.

    Lest anyone forget, my team’s QB (Brady) was just a very efficient game manager when he won his first ring. And yesterday I watched a pretty entertaining game between St Louis and Chicago that featured two backup Qbs. AND…the QB play was pretty good. Not ELITE, but good. The way the rules are that favor the passing game so ridiculously today. I’d venture to say that most average QBs of yesteryear could put up good enough seasons nowadays to help their team win SBs. I think that in some ways the position itself is simply erroneously overvalued. That’s all.

  56. Joe could have handled this better, but he IS the franchise QB of the Ravens and maybe they shouldn’t be jeopardizing the health of BOTH QBs with trick plays.

    They are down right now, due to many factors, but still in the playoff hunt for the 6th year in a row – so to all the other teams’ fans – can you say that? No you can’t…and most of your teams haven’t won 2 SBs in the last 13 years either.

    I’m not bragging but just responding to all the whiners and nay-sayers. Most of you would LOVE to have the problems the Ravens have! It’s a long season fellows.
    In Ozzie We Trust!

  57. Joe Flacco Contract = One of worst in history of pro sports.

    $120 Million and bitter-beer face is “not happy” about lining up at wide receiver? Think about that for a minute.

    “Joe Flacco” and “elite”, is only spoken of by clueless fools.

  58. Joe Flacco carreer playoff statistics

    2672 yards
    19 td
    8 int
    86.2 rating

    Ben Roethlisberger carreer playoff statistics

    3150 yards
    20 td
    17 int
    83.7 rating

    Peyton Manning Carreer playoff statistics
    5679 yards
    32 td
    21 int
    88.4 rating

    And been in the league half the time of Manning and 4 years less than Ben
    Facts hurt don’t they?
    Hate on ladies.

  59. Definitely should have franchised him for a year to see how he did with so few weapons around him. He would have killed his value and then you could have resigned him for a realistic price.

  60. I love it when people bash Joe Flacco. It is hilarious.

    But there aren’t many QBs that keep their cool like Joe. Not many QBs that can drive a team down the field late int he 4th quarter and get a score.
    Not that many QBs that have a playoff record like he has.

    You guys with the fantasy stats can compare Joe all day to Peyton, but I would rather have a guy that plays better than everyone else when it matters – in the playoffs.

    Granted we need to get there this year first, but our problems aren’t all Joe. Look at our running game. Our O-LINE STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

  61. “ELITE” joe flacco:

    29th in QB Rating in NFL
    24th in completion percentage in NFL
    5th most interceptions in NFL
    17th in touchdowns in NFL
    15th in yards per game in NFL
    13th in passing yards in NFL

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    And T5 for Super Bowl wins.

    I don’t care how bad he is the next year, if someone will win me 1 Super Bowl, I’ll take him regardless of cost.

    Signed,
    Bills Fan

  62. Hmm, a QB complaining about having to perform duties other than lining up under center. Where have I heard that before?

    Oh yeah, last year, when Tebow with with the Jets.

    How did that work out?

  63. Well, word around the circuit party circuit is that good ole Joe is more of a giver, than a receiver, a pitcher more than a catcher–IF–you know what I mean. Unlike Brady, who is said to be one of the most active “power bottoms” on the entire east coast. word to the wise, he is debuting a new swing at the Eagle in Boston this weekend!!! go get him size queens!!!!

  64. I can understand why he’d want to line up under center. However, he has no reason to complain. He took a giant contract in the offseason and has yet to live up to it.

    In fact, if he really was focused on winning more, he would’ve taken less money to help out on the cap. What can he buy with 120 million that he can’t buy with say 80? And it’s not like he doesn’t have endorsement deals either.

    So line up where they want you to bucko.

  65. Congrats Joe, you found a way to look mediocre at wide receiver, too!

    What Flacco should be sulking over is the fact that the Ravens lose this game if the other team’s QB hadn’t been so absolutely putrid.

  66. When you give that much cap room to a QB who is not even top 15, you can’t keep the D around him that won the big games. Sure Flacco can throw it deep, that’s where his exception skillset ends, the rest is average at best.

    Congrats on the SB Baltimore, the signing of Flacco to 120mil ensures you won’t be back till that contract runs out.

  67. If ray lewis didn’t announce his retirement the ravens never even sniff the playoffs last year let alone the sleeper bowl they won. 4th and 29 was not even close, the pats hit that field goal, it was PI on the pick six against the broncos. We could go on and on but the fix was clearly in. Flacco is hardly a div 1 QB.

  68. For the amount of money Baltimore (over) paid Flacco, which prevented the team from signing other players, you’d think he would do whatever it takes to win and demonstrate his worth.

  69. For the last time, Flacco’s contract didn’t prevent the team from signing other players. Trading Boldin allowed them to rebuild the defense with some hits (Smith, Canty, Dumervil) and misses (Huff, Spears). They had their safety net in Pitta before his injury, and the backups haven’t produced. Joe hasn’t been lights out, but his contract isn’t the cause.

  70. That’s why they play the game. Thursday Flacculince learns that NFL football is a team sport and team leaders earn team respect and victories. Rothlesburger and team Steelers will teach the lesson in Baltimore.
    Go Steelers !

  71. It would be unfathomable that Ray could have had a convo with roger before the season? There were just FAR too many coincidences and calls that went the way of the crow. Ravens are the worst fan base/franchise in pro sports.

  72. One more time class. Read slowly if you still think Flacco’s contract is the problem. Please note students this is the way all pro football contracts are done.

    First year he gets a base salary and a signing bonus around $20M. The signing bonus hits against the cap spread out the length of this contract. A $4M signing bonus on a 4 year contract counts $1M a year against the cap.

    His cap number this year is about $6M. If he were franchise tagged he’d be paid about $20M (average of the top QB salaries) and that would all be against the cap. The $14M cap savings paid for a lot of holes in the defense.

    In the second year he gets his base salary and an options bonus. The options bonus has other conditions but it acts like guaranteed money, like a signing bonus, and is spread out the rest of the contract too. Second year his cap is $14M, still considered quite low.

    Repeat year 2 in year 3. Cap number is something like $20M, starting to get higher but the cap is projected to move up rapidly in future years. Renegotiate after year three.

    $120M is the full value of the contract if it was run entirely and fully executed with all bonuses. What really matters is the guaranteed money and his guaranteed money is less than Matt Ryan and Tony Romo.

    Can we now stop with the uneducated “there is no money to pay anyone else crap”

  73. Unless you are the Broncos, Patriots, Saints, Packers or Steelers, you wish you had Joe.

    So stop all the hate.

  74. Ok, GuitarKevin… no matter how you spin it, giving top 3 QB money to the 26th ranked passer is stupid. You’re living in a fantasy world, if you think 27 NFL cities wants your AVERAGE Joe.

  75. Guitar Kevin – do you REALLY think San Diego wants Flacco over Philip Rivers? Detroit fans want Flacco over Matt Stafford? Or that Dallas would trade Tony Romo for Flacco, even-up? Russell Wilson or Andrew Luck instead of Flacco? Or Eli, or Matt Ryan, or even Nick Foles, at this point?

    Right now, perhaps Cleveland, Oakland, Jacksonville… and angry Texans fans, okay…

    Face it – you won your first SB with an average QB, Trent Dilfer… and history repeated itself.

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