Sunday night wrap-up: Patriots prevail in overtime

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All season long, there has been a general assumption that the Patriots could withstand whatever injury or free agency defection on offense, because of Tom Brady.

But while things are far from efficient in the passing game, the Patriots are fortunate have the ultimate deodorant at quarterback, so they’re getting away with things for now.

Brady doesn’t have enough targets to beat people downfield, but he’s been able to either win or put his team in position to win with an odd lot of tight ends and backs and erstwhile slot guys, some combination of which happen to show up on alternate weeks.

That was the case Sunday night, in their 34-31 overtime comeback win over the Broncos. They won on Stephen Gostkowski’s 31-yard field goal in overtime, capping a thrilling back-and-forth.

But there were opportunities for it to end in regulation, but for the lack of established threats for the future Hall of Fame quarterback. Julian Edelman led the way with nine catches for 110 yards and two touchdowns, but he’s well down their projected list of targets.

Brady spread the ball among six different receivers, averaging a pedestrian 6.9 yards per attempt. It worked, which makes it sort of hard to complain about. But since it’s Brady, and the clock is ticking on his prime years, you can’t help but view this year as a bit of a wasted opportunity.

Some combination of pride and money kept them from keeping Wes Welker, and they never adequately replaced the rest of the production. When they throw, they’re mostly throwing short, safe passes.

Brady kept in touch with several of his former wideouts this offseason, and there’s clearly a reason for that. He lacks guys he trusts to make plays more than 5 yards from the line of scrimmage.

They couldn’t throw it on a Panthers secondary which was begging for it, and they couldn’t throw it on the Broncos until the second half, when Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie was out with a shoulder injury, and the Broncos were down several safeties.

Here are five more things we learned on Sunday Night Football:

1. There have been questions about Peyton Manning’s arm strength and physical condition, especially on cold and windy nights.

But the touchdown pass he threw to Jacob Tamme in the second quarter was the kind most 23-year-old can’t make when the weather is perfect.

Of course, he was averaging about 4.0 yards per attempt otherwise, so there might be something to the persistent talk about Manning freezing up when the temperature dips.

He made some throws in the fourth quarter to get the game to overtime, but there wasn’t a body of work in the elements to change an established narrative.

2. Speaking of the weather, it almost makes you wonder if the Broncos aren’t better off going into the playoffs as a wild card.

At least then, they’d have a chance at perhaps going to Indianapolis to play indoors.

Otherwise, if they’re playing at home or in New England or Cincinnati or Kansas City or wherever, they’re going to have to answer the question about the weather sooner or later.

3. The Broncos keep hoping for a young back to be able to spell veteran Knowshon Moreno.

But everyone they keep giving chances to keeps giving those chances away.

Whether it was Ronnie Hillman early in the year or Montee Ball in the third quarter, it’s hard for them to keep giving chances to others, because they can’t trust them.

Moreno ran well enough (37 carries for 224 yards) between gimping off the field to justify the continued work.

But you have to wonder how long he and they can maintain it.

4. The Patriots continue to come up with role players who can fill in.

Not many defenses can lose a Vince Wilfork or a Jerod Mayo and keep going, and the Patriots are clearly susceptible to the run.

But they got a boost in the second half when Dane Fletcher came on.

He’s the kind of special teamer/niche player they’ve found so often, and continue to plug in and keep going.

5. Perhaps the most frightening Broncos player is return man Trindon Holliday.

Sure, he can break one at any moment.

But he struggled to catch the ball cleanly Sunday night, doing nothing to kill his reputation as a guy who can kills you with his fumbles too.

It’s the kind of little thing that’s not a problem, right up until the moment it is.

The fact they replaced him with Welker late shows that they know it too. Of course, Welker’s inexperience with the punt team might have contributed to the fatal turnover in overtime, so the Broncos were damned if they did, damned if they didn’t.

136 responses to “Sunday night wrap-up: Patriots prevail in overtime

  1. Or they could have just set up a FG with 1 second left in the half and not had to deal with the extra period for a chance at injury or to lose the game. Or even worse, end it in a tie!

  2. “But if he comes back from this one, he’ll be a legend.”

    Remember saying this? I guess Tom Brady is a legend.

  3. truth be told – mother nature is great leveller
    came down to fundamentals of playing the sport

    shame Moreno’s effort from tonight will be forgotten

  4. Peyton chokes again. The guy is a loser. Not in Bradys or Montana’s class. Indoor QB through and through.

  5. Another game decided by complete stupidity… letting yourself get hit by a punt in overtime against the Pats….. brutal

  6. Of course, Welker’s inexperience with the punt team might have contributed to the fatal turnover in overtime
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    Might have ? Lol he caused it.

    Donks played a hell of a game though. Both sides had a crap half and a great one.

    Belichik’s call to get the wind in OT was a winner. That field goal with the wind was almost certain. Against it not even close.

  7. Wes Welker choked this was not Tony Carter’s fault. Julian Edleman manned up and went after every punt for the Patriots. Wes Welker chickened out and need to field that ball.

  8. forsbergler says:
    Nov 24, 2013 10:38 PM
    I love games like this…it’s only going to make the loss hurt that much more…kinda like last years game against 49ers I almost hope they tie it up

    forsbergler says:
    Nov 24, 2013 10:28 PM
    And here comes Denver running game….this d is FINNISHED after the 1st half

    forsbergler says:
    Nov 24, 2013 10:18 PM
    Well let’s see what TOM terrible is made of….down 24 with the wind at the back…any guesses…..I guess maybe 3 points this quarter

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha…..

  9. And what was with Brock Osweiler and all that buildup for some amazing block attempt? He didn’t come close to getting into the mix to possibly block that kick. What a let-down that turned out to be. I guess the Ref spooked him during the TO about a possible fine!

    And seems like the crowd could have baited Welker into taking extra time for that punt when they were heckling him with name chants. Nice job by the fans there to work their way out onto the field for an extra body of confusion.

  10. Things I learned – Brady is a gamer. Manning choked in cold weather. Plain and simple.

    Denver’s last home game is Week 15. So playing as a wild-card would mean playing possibly 5 straight road games to get to the SB.

    Either way Broncos won’t be escaping the cold weather.

  11. On an otherwise very strong special teams, trindon Holliday is a liability. I’m getting really tired of seeing him back there. I’d trade the TDs he can score for surer hands in a heartbeat.

  12. Bwahaha! Donkeys exposed! The Donkeys will never win in the playoffs with Manning as their QB. He is great in season but is terrible in the playoffs and in the cold. Now his body is old and ailing, and he doesn’t recover like he used to. Good luck, Donkey fans! Hahaha!!

  13. This should put to rest Any arguments about if brady is better than Manning. Up 24-0 at the half because of the defense and the run game, patriots being booed, a much more talented group of receivers minus the TE position, patriots missing Their best Linebacker and two best lineman and a safety and second best corner, Talib hurt, like 300 yards rushing, the ball kicked to you in OT, and you lose. Brady is 10-5 vs manning and has 3 SBs to Mannings 1. Brady>Manning no doubt.

  14. Know why the broncos weren’t sustaining drives? The patriots dedicated guys to Moreno. Sure he had a huge night on the ground, but the checksdowns to Moreno are what keeps the drives going. Stop Moreno, stop the broncos.

    And the refs blew another very obvious pass interference call that should have been called against the broncos. They also called a pass interference on the patriots on a pick play that was definitlye not pass interference. The refs are really screwing up that call this year.

  15. There is a life lesson for all of us in this game. Don’t give up. It helps if you have the talent and smarts of Brady and Belichick.

  16. Brady makes the comeback of a career and carries the entire offense on his shoulders throughout and it’s pedestrian? Were we watching the same game? Ya he wasn’t putting up the video game numbers you drool over but the guy was an absolute monster in the second half. ButIm forgetting it was against Peyton and I know how much the media loves to fallach him. No mention to the fact Brady was 17-23 for 201 and two TD’s into the wind..Peyton do that?

  17. My team came back from a 24 point deficit to win the game and my big take away was, wouldn’t it be nice if Tom Brady had some offensive weapons. Really? I’m not sure what game you were watching. If the Pats don’t win the Super Bowl, it won’t be due to a lack of offense. Brady needs a defense, not more weapons.

  18. This team relied a lot on Aaron Hernandez being here this year, so of course that’s gonna leave a big hole in big time receivers, and Brady has had to quickly build up a rapport with Dobson and Thompkins, so to criticize what the Patriots have to work with on offense is unfair because they weren’t expecting this dramatic of an overhaul

    It was a good game seeing as how the Patriots spotted the Broncos 17 points and still managed to avoid the blowout while climbing back in…I was thrilled to see Dennard and Talib in the lineup and effective as they add such a crucial element to this defense, and I thought the pass rush did well too…I’m sure we’ll have a rematch in a month and a half anyway, so we’ll see what happens then

  19. This team relied a lot on Aaron Hernandez being here this year, so of course that’s gonna leave a big hole in big time receivers, and Brady has had to quickly build up a rapport with Dobson and Thompkins, so to criticize what the Patriots have to work with on offense is unfair because they weren’t expecting this dramatic of an overhaul

    It was a good game seeing as how the Patriots spotted the Broncos 17 points and still managed to avoid the blowout while climbing back in…I was thrilled to see Dennard and Talib in the lineup and effective as they add such a crucial element to this defense, and I thought the pass rush did well too…I’m sure we’ll have a rematch in a month and a half anyway, so we’ll see what happens then

  20. Guess the “greatest” couldn’t get the job done, even after being spotted 24 points. Sorry folks, Brady has and always will be better. Not a fan of either team, but from a fan of football as a whole, it’s not even close. For years the “better cast” argument has been used for Peyton apologists. The roles were reversed, with captain frontrunner right where he wanted to be, and he only generated 7 points in the second half. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go back to praying Jerry will someday hire a GM. What a game, though!

  21. I am amazed that Denver could not put New England away after going up 24 to 0, but I am more amazed that the Patriot offense could come back from that deficit.

  22. As a Denver fan I must give Brady credit for one stat: In overtime he is 9 – 2 and Peyton is 3 – 4 so as much as it hurts to say that one and the playoff records and the head to head record I got to give Brady a slight advantage as the best ever…

  23. Weird! In a previous post you write, “if (Brady) he comes back from this one, he’ll be a legend”. Yet he comes back and you talk a about Peyton’s arm and how Brady couldn’t throw on the Bronco’s secondary! Weird I say…

  24. Not a fan of either team, but two great individual performances from Brady and Moreno, who’s now shed the bust label to become one of the best all-around RB’s in the NFL.

  25. The real reason why the Broncos lost: The Broncos fan from the Bud Light commercial didn’t stay in his basement.

  26. Takeaways from tonight:

    Big Brother Peyton Manning is Tom Brady’s Beotch.
    Tom Brady is Little Brother Eli’s Beotch.
    Little Brother Eli is just a Beotch.

  27. Pats sold out on the run to stop the pass and it worked. Its the genius of Billicheck. He’ll make you beat you in a way that your not acustomed to doing. Sucks that it ended on some random punt fumble, but overall great game.

  28. I have to disagree with your statement that the Pats have NOT adequately replaced their receiver production and Brady does NOT trust his receivers downfield. They chose to go in a younger direction and yes there have been some growing pains but they also have one of the best tight ends in the game and a pretty good running back by committee. Tonight they spotted the number one seed 24 points and fought back to win in overtime…not too shabby. I doubt the game plan was to throw deep all night with the gale force winds anyways.

  29. Welker might have contributed to the loss? The refs were making damn sure that Denver wins and Welker by simply not calling a fair catch
    BLOWS the game and all the refs’ hard work. Two weeks in a row now that the refs intentionally made calls against NE and no one knows it better than Tom Brady. I am NOT a NE fan, but this League is becoming a sham due to the bias exhibited every week now by the refs. Somebody is going to pull an Edward Snowden and release emails or taped cell calls on this topic and the Commish is going to have a bucket of poop 10 times bigger than BountyGate. The integrity of this game is disappearing faster than Jerry Jones’ hair.

  30. “Brady spread the ball among six different receivers, averaging a pedestrian 6.9 yards per attempt.”

    yes and Manning meanwhile logged a solid 3.5 yds per attempt

  31. Maybe the pats videotaped the broncos—- there, I’m spygate-baiting. Feel free to vent pats haters.— Brady or Manning? It’s emphatically settled… # 12 is the man! I don’t know how he does it. WOW !!!

  32. Shows how the running game has become unrelated to winning in the NFL

    Go ahead and rack up 200+ rushing yards. Won’t mean anything at the end of the day.

  33. This was a great game. Period. This was one of the greatest comebacks of Brady’s career. Period. Brady=legend.

  34. Peyton is such a jerk to his own players – he really deserves it when he loses.

    I was trying to root for him tonight, but watching him scowl and yell at his own guys in such a mean-spirited way and sit scowling on the bench – I’m much happier to see him take another beatdown.

    Dude needs to seriously learn how to enjoy the fact that he’s getting paid over $20 million to play a little boys’ game. Most of us had to grow up and get real jobs many years ago.

  35. What a game! So happy for my guys. Coming out and stinking it up in the first half was bad but man we put on a show!

    1. Brady is Brady. Missed on a few deep balls and I think he made a few bad decisions throwing the ball off pa deep a la chase Blackburn .

    2. Edelman is good replacement for welk but he can’t be their go to guy. Tompkins looks good as does Dobson in times. Amendola needs to stay healthy lol and be more consistent.

    3. Knowshon is a beast.

    4. Manning is great but really struggles in cold weather. His balls really hung in the air. He also needs to not tip his plays and be more diverse. He didnt look on at all.

    5. New England has to get better at stopping runs inside

    6. I don’t want Ridley touching the ball as long as I live. Vereen Blount and bolden are all good players who can hold on to the ball.

    7. New England sorely needs an Aaron Hernandez ( without the guns) we can’t have the big keg stand as our 1 blocker and reciever. I like Dobson Tompkins and Boyce with another year but we miss the big shooter in passing downs.

    8. These are clearly the two best teams in the afc. Kansas City being number 3. Indy is way to inconsistent. In the NFC Seattle is overrated kaep is like tebow and New Orleans is the best overall team IMO and Carolina is pretty good too. I like our odds in January

  36. brady threw all over the panthers, did you even watch the game? would havee dropped 30+ without ridley fumble, mankins penalty, and penalty on last play.

  37. I’m not a pats fan. Brady deserves to be in the top qb of all time discussion. He plays in worse weather than most quarterbacks you would argue were better than him. He puts up numbers year in and year out. And he has a hot rich wife. Give the man his props.

  38. brady/bb also have a signature win against manning now… they have obviously dominated this rivalry but 2 of the most memorable game in this rivalry were 2 manning come backs…
    bb also exorcised his 4 and 2 call demons by taking the wind… pretty awesome!

    makes you wonder what would brady do with a receivers group like mannings…

  39. I guess there’s no debate now that the Seahawks are the best team in the NFL. Of course, Seahawk fans could have told you that 11 weeks ago.

  40. You sound like another Manning apologist. I’m surprised you didn’t break out the issue of a “scheduling quirk” that has them playing in NE three seasons in a row, like HOMER Tom Jackson did, and then surprisingly, Trent Dilfer did. Maybe unlike them, you did your homework, and found that they would have to play the rest of the decade in NE to make the all time series even close, due to “scheduling quirk’s” that caused the majority of past games to be played in Denver? Yeah, sensing a Manning implosion, the apologists were already making excuses before the game started as to why TB has such a winning record against Manning. When you put yourself in Manning’s camp, that uneasiness always has you looking for a built in excuse. Ever notice that? There’s a reason for it….

    While the Patriots endured a horrendous off season, lost many players to other teams, and have suffered injuries that gutted the team, they remain competitive. All three of their losses were wild last second affairs that could have ended differently, which is amazing. I agree that it will be a challenge for this group of rookies and misfits to remain competitive in January, but that’s why they play the games.

    Brady dragged what was then the worst defense statistically, of all time, to the Super Bowl two seasons ago, and last year’s defense was no bargain either, and they reached the AFC Championship game. I have to agree, if he had an established wide-out or two, the sky would be the limit. Nobody knows how long the window stays open, but right now, it looks like it will still be open for a few more seasons. Nobody does it like Tom, and we’ll all be sad when he hangs it up and runs for President.

    Brady may be the best bad weather QB of all time, as well as best regular and post season QB etc etc. I’d love to see him make it to a bad weather Super Bowl. I’d pay to see that.

  41. Can’t win em all… Good and bad from this one. Personally I prefer to have to work for it (think 97 season). And for what it’s worth, freak play to lose, 24 point lead blown, whatever, it was a dog fight in cold weather with a good team on the road in awful weather. No other team was up to that test and that 24 point lead was freakish in its own right. Defense needs to get healthy… Knowshon was a beast, the team doesn’t look as one dimensional as it did a few weeks ago. That kind of balance can win a championship. I like what I see. Go Broncos.

  42. Bif tip of the hat to the Patriots. You don;t pull that off too many times in your life. Best to not try it again…..

    Trent Dilfer said it best: The Patriots have Soul….

  43. forsbergler says:
    Nov 24, 2013 10:15 PM
    Can’t wait to read the pats articles at work tomorrow cause I bet all the pats fans will be home sick….lol
    **********************************************
    I’ll bet we don’t see you for the rest of the week, loser.

    Peyton Manning and the Bronco’s are who we thought they were, overrated.

  44. I guess Tom Terrific IS a legend. All you haters can keep hoping your team gets a special guy like TB one of these days. Sure, maybe his best days are coming to an end, but he sure has been a great person to watch for a long time. You can say all you want about cheating, luck, or referee favoritism. He has given all fans, not just Pats fans, something to watch.
    That’s what legends are made of.

  45. The fact is this: Peyton Manning + big game + cold weather = chock. He just doesn’t play well in the cold. Why he ever signed with the Broncos I’ll never understand. Good luck in fencers cold weather Peyton

  46. Brady schooled Manning.

    No amount of pro-Manning excuse-ridden rhetoric can hide that fact.

    Manning has some awesome weapons on offense – he really did crap the bed today against a D that was hugely undermanned.

    Still at least Joe Gibbs and Don Shula think he’s still better than Tom.

  47. Brady schooled Manning tonight.

    No amount of pro-Manning excuse-ridden rhetoric can hide that fact.

    Manning has some awesome weapons on offense – he really did crap the bed today against a D that was hugely undermanned.

    Still at least Joe Gibbs and Don Shula think he’s still better than Tom.

  48. With whatever interchangeable parts show up, Brady is the constant. He’s the NFL’s version of MJ and Kobe in that he has the assassin’s mentality.

  49. If the refs let Gronkowski just keep running over his defender when he runs his routes than the Pats will be unbeatable. I don’t understand the whole calling pick plays all night than missing the most obvious one that occurred during the game (on a long ball to Gronk).

    Bottom line is Denver’s secondary was barraged with injuries and it was only after the only starter left on the field was Ihenacho and the nickel stud Chris Harris jr. that the “Great Brady” showed up, and the passes were still checkdowns. Manning’s pick was a killer boneheaded move on his part and he has only himself to blame. Brady made a huge error as well but luckily for him Woodyard bobbled the ball out of his grasp.

    This is a game that should energize the Broncos the rest of the season. The only guys that showed up in the second half were Moreno, Knighton, and Miller.

    New England will probably win out the rest of the season. Although, they have overlooked teams already this year (Jets).

    P.S.-It was real classy when the Pats fans booed during every Broncos injury, specifically Vickerson. I live in Green Bay and even during Bears games that doesn’t happen.

  50. Pats should have won against Panthers and yeah Brady threw short passes but he threw big passes to Gronk, Thompkins and Edelmen when needed. Patriots and the team lost two of the best players and they still continue to play hard and win tough games or put themselves in positions to win and that is all because of Brady and Bill. Other teams when they loose one or two key players like making excuse for roger cromatie is BS. Give your props where it is deserved.

  51. At least then, they’d have a chance at perhaps going to Indianapolis to play indoors.

    You mean where they already lost? LOL.

    Broncos will be 1-and-Done in the playoffs because it’s what Peyton does.

  52. The Patriot’s are the best example of how vital the QB is to an entire organization. Breakown their team and every unit is mediocre -at best. Yet, QB may be best in the league.

    Amazing how one position can completely dictate the win/loss record of a team made up of 53 players.

  53. “Brady spread the ball among six different receivers, averaging a pedestrian 6.9 yards per attempt. It worked, which makes it sort of hard to complain about. But since it’s Brady, and the clock is ticking on his prime years, you can’t help but view this year as a bit of a wasted opportunity.” What?!?! Brady picked apart that Denver defense. The same defense with more impact players than the Pats D, and if not for Moreno, manning would’ve gotten blown away. Why not mention how well the defense played or how Talib shut down one of the top receivers in football?! Why not give credit to Vereen and Bolden?!? Or Belichick for deciding to kick in the wind?! None of that. You writers on this site continue to bash “Brady’s down here” and not acknowledge anything that the whole team does.

  54. Here is one thing I know. This Dan Gantt doesn’t know sh*t about Tom Brady or the Patriots. I wish these “articles” had a thumbs up or thumbs down option like the comments do..

  55. Does it matter how Brady gets it done so much as he continues to get it done. A lot tripe in this article.

    Brady, 34 of 50, 344 yards, 3 TDs and no picks. A line any QB in this league would love to have on any night. Even one in 65 degrees with no wind or rain.

    I said this weeks ago. We may be watching Brady’s greatest effort this year as his leadership, performance and determination transform a team of no-names into legitimate contenders.

  56. before the game, on tv, the announcers ran a segment on which QB you would rather have lead your team on a game-winning drive…Brady or Manning. Brady has no reputation as a choker, Manning still does.

  57. Still sniffing Peyton’s jock huh? How about Brady for MVP ? He’s doing it with cast offs and no Welker! He totally outplayed Peyton and waft was his avg per yards..Dam right no team practices next man up better than the Pats! #hatersgoingtohate

  58. I wonder how many Bronco fans went to bed at halftime with a 24-0 lead only to wake up to a loss. Brutal.

  59. forsbergler says:
    Nov 24, 2013 10:24 PM
    Uh oh here comes the comeback….lol

    —-

    Who knew a Denver fan could be so prophetic?

  60. I get the feeling someone is annoyed that the Patriots stormed back to upset a “the Broncos are the bestest evah!” article they already had in the can.

    Oh, and the reason they let Welker go was right there on the field last night. He was a nonfactor, and repeatedly dropped key passes on third down. And that brain fart on the punt return was a classic. I like the guy, but if you pair a WR that is unreliable in crunch time with a QB that is unreliable in crunch time, you’re going to lose a lot of crunch times.

  61. Gotta love how all the haters have disappeared. They were all over the boards at halftime when the Patriots were down. Go Pats!!!

  62. 2. Speaking of the weather, it almost makes you wonder if the Broncos aren’t better off going into the playoffs as a wild card.

    At least then, they’d have a chance at perhaps going to Indianapolis to play indoors.
    _____
    I may be being a bit presumptuious here, but I’m going to say that during his LeBron-style tour after Indy released him, somebody told Peyton during his Denver visit that the temps between November 1 and January 31 is usually not 72 degrees, it has been known to snow, and occasionally the wind might blow.

    In other words, Peyton gets no free passes for not performing in the cold. He signed with a cold-weather city, so he’s got to step up in the winter weather. If he wanted Indy conditions, he should have signed with Arizona.

  63. So once again the ‘Greatest Quarterback in the History of the Universe’ comes up short, proving that while Manning is very good, ‘greatest’ he ain’t, not by a long shot.

  64. 24-0 at the half!! and the trolls are still tryin to come up with excuses why the donkies didn’t win or why the Pats won. You got taken to the wood shed in the 2nd half. Outplayed,outcoached and Manning peed down his leg again. End of story.

  65. Oh man, that was brutal. I had to turn it off at halftime, I couldn’t watch any more. After this debacle I fear the Pats may be done for this year.

    Wait…. what?

  66. malab377 says: Nov 25, 2013 12:58 AM

    Welker : 65-679-9
    Edelman : 61-610-4… $1.015 million
    ——————————————–

    Remember when Bronco fans and sports writers were gushing on the genius of Elway “stealing Welker away” from the Pats? Yeah, genius.

  67. “Welker’s inexperience with the punt team might have contributed to the fatal turnover…”

    MIGHT HAVE???? Let’s try most definitely.

  68. “Some combination of pride and money kept them from keeping Wes Welker”

    Gantt – What have you been smoking lately? Sure, lots of Pats fans were made at Kraft and Belichick for not re-signing Welker (me included). But as Welker proved last night, the Pats offered him what they thought he was worth. Wouldn’t have mattered anyway because Welker was intent on leaving. He signed with Denver for the POSSIBILITY of making more money over two years. No guarantees on the second year. First year he makes $6 million in Denver. Could have made $8 million in NE if he had accepted Kraft’s final offer.

  69. Let’s see if I got this right. Manning choked even though in both losses this year they scored 33 and 31 points. Manning drove them down in the 4th against the wind to tie the game. Manning gave up a 24 point halftime lead? How does a defense give up 5 straight scoring drives in the second half? The Pats gained 28 more total yards for the game and Peyton choked. What about when NE played in Cincy with the weather and Brady threw 0 TD’s and was picked to end the game on a possible tying drive. The Pats scored 6 points that game. I know there are Peyton haters out there but come on take a closer look at the overall game last night.

  70. It was a great game, played under tough weather conditions. The Pats were sloppy in the 1st half and Denver got sloppy in the 2nd half. Peyton’s last drive to tie the game at 31 was very impressive; I didn’t think he could make those perfect throws anymore, but I was wrong. The Pats would have won on a FG earlier if the ref had called PI on Jammer, as it clearly was, so justice was served. I’m sorry to see Welker end up the goat, though; he’s a great player.

  71. taintedsaints2009:

    Seriously? I am not making excuses here, but let the PI whining stop! The Pats kicked the Broncos’ butts in the second half…no doubt, but let’s look at PI for a minute if you want to get technical…Gronk’s TD was blatant push-off after running straight into the defender, Decker was tackled on a pass before the ball even got close to him, and Talib grabbed Thomas’ arm preventing him from making a catch in the fourth quarter, oh and guess what, none were called!!!!!!! The refs were letting them play, and I wished they always would for the sake of the game.

  72. I’m a die hard Manning fan but after yesterdays game, I have finally realize that he cannot play when the climate it’s too cold, the men is human after all.

  73. osiris33 says: Nov 25, 2013 2:22 AM

    I guess there’s no debate now that the Seahawks are the best team in the NFL. Of course, Seahawk fans could have told you that 11 weeks ago.
    ==================================
    I know this having a decent football team thing is new to people in Seattle, but people in New England, Denver, San Francisco, Pittsburgh, Dallas, Green Bay, to name a few, already know that the best team is determined on the field, in January.

  74. “Brady made a huge error as well but luckily for him Woodyard bobbled the ball out of his grasp.”

    Did you even watch the game? Vereen bobbled a ball he should have caught and bounced it up in the air (a la Ravens safety James Ihedigbo against Cincinnati in the end zone a few weeks ago). How was that a huge error by Brady? I understand that fans call it they way they see it (biased) but even the Pinball Wizard knows that wasn’t on Brady.

  75. So let me get this straight. The Patriots benefitted from a too-convenient play clock malfunction, and a schedule where Goodell was paid off to give the Pats the Broncos at home seemingly every year, and now suspiciously the “wind” in that stadium. No doubt they paid off someone for that too. And now I have to hear all this talk that Brady is a good QB when all intelligent and informed football fans know he is only “good” because of spygate.

    Outrageous. When will the Patriots cheating stop? When will Congress investigate the cheating? I’m disgusted. The NFL is going to lose a lot of fans over this. Are you happy Goodell? Is that what you want? I couldn’t sleep last night because I fear for our beloved NFL.

  76. BTW donkey fans, how is it conceiveable that your great melon-headed God could allow this to happen? Or is he really just who we all thought he was?

  77. murf17 says: Nov 25, 2013 10:22 AM

    Let’s see if I got this right. Manning choked even though in both losses this year they scored 33 and 31 points. Manning drove them down in the 4th against the wind to tie the game. Manning gave up a 24 point halftime lead? How does a defense give up 5 straight scoring drives in the second half? The Pats gained 28 more total yards for the game and Peyton choked.
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    And what did Manning do to keep Brady off the field in between those 5 straight scoring drives? He choked. Just like his defense, he choked.

  78. brazzz01 says:
    Nov 25, 2013 11:30 AM
    So let me get this straight. The Patriots benefitted from a too-convenient play clock malfunction, and a schedule where Goodell was paid off to give the Pats the Broncos at home seemingly every year, and now suspiciously the “wind” in that stadium. No doubt they paid off someone for that too. And now I have to hear all this talk that Brady is a good QB when all intelligent and informed football fans know he is only “good” because of spygate.

    Outrageous. When will the Patriots cheating stop? When will Congress investigate the cheating? I’m disgusted. The NFL is going to lose a lot of fans over this. Are you happy Goodell? Is that what you want? I couldn’t sleep last night because I fear for our beloved NFL.
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    You cannot be serious right? I really hope this is a sarcastic remark because this is just a ridiculous comment that all of you hater’s have to resort to every single game that the Patriot’s either win or lose. Question for you, When will the Patriot’s get credit for anything they do? Let’s see, “spygate” check, “tuck rule” check, “Brady whining”, check. How about give the man and his team some credit when it’s due and clearly after this game, you would have to be ignorant not to…smh

  79. Wow nothing like a marquee QB matchup to bring out all the haters, whiners, trolls and chuckle heads. Simply a heckuva game. I’m a Pats fan but I do respect Peyton, and fear Trindon (TD or fumble) Holliday.

  80. Brady OWNS Manning…..10-4 head to head record…… three rings……. never has a consistent supporting cast as Pey Pey had……. Spygate Schmygate….. stop whining…. You you can hate on us all you want baby… HE’S MY QUARTERBACK…..

  81. Im a fan of neither of these teams but when its all said and done Brady will be considered the better QB by most people. Hes always been more clutch then Manning from day 1.

    Manning could be the greatest QB of all time in a controlled enviornment, and little to no variables. Almost robotic good. Give him a week to prepare, a home field dome to play in and an inferior opponent and he will look like a machine.

    But in games with variables, setbacks,UNPREPARED for challenges hes always been just average. He had stacked offenses in Indy and the same OC his entire time there.. If he was the greatest ever he would have had more success during a period in which this league caters to QBs/offense, and would not have had to rely on a SB matchup against Rex Grossman s Bears to get his only SB victory.

  82. You cannot be serious right? I really hope this is a sarcastic remark

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    Heh, and I would have thought the “paying off someone for the wind” line was a dead giveaway…

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