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Kraft thought Belichick had lost it in OT by taking wind

Robert Kraft AP

The Patriots captains weren’t the only ones surprised that coach Bill Belichick gave Peyton Manning the ball and a chance to win in overtime Sunday night.

Add owner Robert Kraft to the list of those shocked by the decision, which turned out to work out, as the Patriots held on for the win over the Broncos.

‘‘When Bill chose the wind, I said, ‘What is he doing?‘’’ Kraft said , via Karen Guregian of the Boston Herald. ‘‘Someone [in my box] said, ‘Don’t you have a phone down there?’ . . . But I spoke with [Belichick] and chatted about it with him afterward, and once again, he was on top of things. What they figured out was, by choosing the wind, it was an incremental 20 yards that they needed to be able to kick, and sure enough, it was a very wise decision.

‘‘Probably, as a fan, I don’t think 80-90 percent of our fans would think giving Peyton Manning the ball in overtime was going to be in our best interest.’’

That number might be low.

Kraft said he was so fired up after his team came back from a 24-0 halftime deficit that he couldn’t sleep, calling it “one of the special all-time wins.”

‘‘That first half was just brutal. It was unbelievable,’’ he said. ‘‘And thinking there was a quarterback like Peyton Manning on the other side, and to see the adjustment at halftime, and . . . then in 17 minutes scoring 21 unanswered points, I really believe this did something very special for our team, because it wasn’t just offense and defense, it was special teams.

“Look at that play at the end of the game. It was great. I couldn’t go to sleep until 4 in the morning.”

But he’s able to sleep easier knowing he has a coach who is willing to go against the book sometimes, and a quarterback who can make it all work out.

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46 Responses to “Kraft thought Belichick had lost it in OT by taking wind”
  1. vontazemebro says: Nov 27, 2013 9:06 AM

    Bill would’nt have answered the call anyway.

  2. pynflfan says: Nov 27, 2013 9:16 AM

    I couldn’t sleep either! An instantly classic win no doubt

  3. zimaman says: Nov 27, 2013 9:22 AM

    you all realize without two BS calls by the officials they probably would be 10-1 without 3 Pro Bowl type players on defense out for the season

    Coach of the Year

    The Haters can stick it. blah blah blah video whatever .

  4. 6ball says: Nov 27, 2013 9:23 AM

    .

    I think 80-90% of Patriots fans knew exactly what Belichick was doing and trusted him to make the decision that gave the team the best opportunity to win..

    .

  5. truthfactory says: Nov 27, 2013 9:24 AM

    It was a debatable call but its not like Brady did anything with the wind. Peyton drove them 40 yards to the Pats 40 yd line against the wind but they had to punt. Brady only went about 20 yds on his drive and also had to punt.

    I guess it worked out well because the wind caused a lot of confusion on the punt and thats ultimately what won them the game.

  6. bdywrks says: Nov 27, 2013 9:24 AM

    Just because it worked out doesn’t mean it was a good decision. Bill seems to like to prove that he can do whatever he wants, and if you don’t like it, there’s the door.

  7. realskipbayless says: Nov 27, 2013 9:24 AM

    Imagine what woulda happened if they didn’t win that game.

  8. harrisonhits2 says: Nov 27, 2013 9:28 AM

    Belichick is one of the few true strategists left in the game. Most coaches just take the standard option every single time whether it be to punt, receive, not go for it on 4th and 1 or 4th and 2.

    Belichcik’s mastery of the statistics of the game and how abnormal choices can succeed is one of the reasons why he’s the best coach in the game today. The chances he takes don’t always succeed, but they do about 90-95% of the time leaving the other teams in the Pats dust, crying and scratching their heads.

  9. bostonian13 says: Nov 27, 2013 9:33 AM

    it’s crazy how the comments on this site are after a Patriots win….comical. Imagine if we had lost this game or the blow out continued…….tsk tsp.

  10. pastabelly says: Nov 27, 2013 9:35 AM

    My only problem with Belichick’s call was that Brady had done so well against the wind during the game. However, Belichick showed faith in his defense and Moreno was pretty dinged up in the 4th quarter. The thinking was that if they could hold Manning to a field goal, getting one back WITH the wind wouldn’t be too much to ask.

  11. kev86 says: Nov 27, 2013 9:35 AM

    Wellington Mara was watching his old coordinator from above and smiling.

  12. icanspeel says: Nov 27, 2013 9:42 AM

    I still don’t think it was a good decision.. Because had the fumble not occurred most likely the Broncos would have had 3 possessions in OT to the Patriots 2. So Manning would have either scored or it’d end in a tie with the Broncos getting 1 more opportunity on offense than the Patriots. Just so happened the fumble saved them.

  13. Bob says: Nov 27, 2013 9:45 AM

    Amazing how the Patriots couldn’t move and couldn’t stop the Broncos in the first half, and then moved and couldn’t be stopped in the second half. Funny how that worked out. Must have consulted the cameras at halftime.

  14. stevequinn says: Nov 27, 2013 9:45 AM

    Both teams had to deal with the wind and cold all night long. Belichick probably knows Manning better than most of the coaches in the NFL. I guess he figured Manning would have problems throwing into that wind plus he knew Moreno was worn out.

    On a normal night, Manning probably gets his team close enough for a field goal in OT. But Belichick knew kicking a field goal over 30 yards or so into that wind would be virtually impossible.

    I was kind of surprised at what Belichick did but not shocked. Turned out to be the correct decision but boy oh boy, had the Patriots lost, the media would have crucified Belichick for the next month or so.

    This reminds me of the decision he made a few years ago to go for it on fourth down because he didn’t want to give the ball back to Manning.

  15. FinFan68 says: Nov 27, 2013 9:46 AM

    It was a logical call. I really don’t see what the controversy is…especially since a FG on the first drive no longer wins the game immediately.

  16. eagles512 says: Nov 27, 2013 9:50 AM

    Why do people think it was such a gutsy call? It seemed like the obvious call with the new OT rules.

  17. azarkhan says: Nov 27, 2013 9:52 AM

    bostonian13 says: it’s crazy how the comments on this site are after a Patriots win….comical. Imagine if we had lost this game or the blow out continued…….tsk tsp

    But the Patriots won the game. Imagine that.

  18. azarkhan says: Nov 27, 2013 9:53 AM

    Oh Bob, you so silly!

  19. maraneso says: Nov 27, 2013 9:57 AM

    ‘‘And thinking there was a quarterback like Peyton Manning on the other side, and to see the adjustment at halftime, and . . . ”

    Kraft seems like a nice guy. Imagine the gloating Irsay would be tweeting if it had been his team/coach.

  20. deepbacksidedig says: Nov 27, 2013 9:58 AM

    Pic of Mr Kraft is great, he appears to be saying WTF?
    Drudge quality shot there.
    A very satisfying win.
    Capped by hearing Chris Carter declare the end of the Manning/Brady debate.
    He has fully bought in now, I think he is ready to hit the field again.
    Coach, put me in the game….
    ***
    On Coaches:
    Time yet for some honesty wrt The Washington Foreskins?
    Anyone believe Shanahan did not ruin 3?
    Why does no-one dare say it out loud?
    Crazy, same town that refused to play the BB kid in the playoff.

    Thank the Lord and Mr Kraft the fates dealt Boston Mr Belichick. It could be, it is worse for so many others.

    For genuine fans of other teams, I feel your pain.
    It is why I dance as I type this.

  21. skolvikesskol says: Nov 27, 2013 10:02 AM

    Omg people.. Calm down. I guess no one here, including the writers watch much football. I’ll give u 1 clue as to why this really wasn’t a revolutionary or shocking call. PARCELLS. Ok children now try this thing called the googles and u can stop being ignorant.

  22. thereisfootballwestofjersey says: Nov 27, 2013 10:02 AM

    All this Belichick-is-a-genius talk is tiring. If he’s that special, how come no Super Bowl wins since 2004…9 years!

  23. realitylooms says: Nov 27, 2013 10:03 AM

    As a Patriots fan since I was 5 in 1975-quite a bit of dark time between then and 2001 Superbowl-Bill Belichick can decide to have ME return kicks and I stand by his decision 100%. He’s made bad ones, but give me a break. He’s made a few of the better ones I’ve seen.

  24. AngryHumanoid says: Nov 27, 2013 10:05 AM

    It wasn’t just a matter of luck that won the game for the Patriots. Yes in the end it came down to a mistake by the Broncos, but those are both 2 VERY good teams, both good at moving the ball and both good at stopping the ball (mostly). To the people who say “Brady and the Patriots didn’t do much in OT” keep in mind that holding out as long as possible and waiting for your opponent to make a key mistake (which is exactly what happened) is also a viable strategy.

  25. pats777 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:05 AM

    BB is always looking for even the slightest advantage in opportunities. In this case it was the wind and kicking field goals. Remember when he had the punter take a safety rather than kick it (while trailing against the 2003 Broncos nonetheless)? A lot of us thought he was crazy but they ended up winning. In BB we trust.

  26. dualprime says: Nov 27, 2013 10:12 AM

    So you’re all feeling pretty good about that 4th and 1 call against Indy a few years back? So, the Pats bumble away 24 points in the first half, make it up (to their credit) in the second half and then win on a botched punt in OT. You call that classic and genius? Really? Must be awfully cold in NE! Let the “thumbs down” begin. :)

  27. thenyolive says: Nov 27, 2013 10:14 AM

    Bob says: Nov 27, 2013 9:45 AM

    Amazing how the Patriots couldn’t move and couldn’t stop the Broncos in the first half, and then moved and couldn’t be stopped in the second half. Funny how that worked out. Must have consulted the cameras at halftime.
    ———————
    Actually, the only real adjustment made was they stopped fumbling the ball, giving Peyton the ball with 80 yards to go instead of 20. They were moving the ball just fine until the fumbles took the life out of their offense. Of course, critical thinking skills are not exactly a strong point for the haters.

  28. brazzz01 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:16 AM

    Belichick is mad that he didn’t get to call “Red Right 88″ first.

  29. Patskrieg dot com says: Nov 27, 2013 10:20 AM

    I couldn’t possibly have been the only one hoping they would take the wind. The Broncos had scored going into the wind, but they were having a lot of trouble moving the ball outside the numbers. A 20 mph wind cuts down your confidence on a field goal on anything over 30 yards. I thought it was a good percentage move no matter what.

  30. pastabelly101 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:22 AM

    Best record in NFL, only undefeated regular season in history and 2 Superbowl appearances since 2004, guess that means they have done nothing,right haters?

  31. brazzz01 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:27 AM

    All this Belichick-is-a-genius talk is tiring. If he’s that special, how come no Super Bowl wins since 2004…9 years!

    ——

    The last season the Pats had a great defense was….wait for it….

    …2004.

    Coincidence?

  32. jimmyt says: Nov 27, 2013 10:28 AM

    Belichick is one of the few Cheaters left in the game. Most coaches just take the honest standard option every single time and do not cheat.

    Belichcik’s mastery of using video to steal other teams play signals and how using these ill-gotten signals can succeed is one of the reasons why he’s wrongly considered the best coach in the game today by ESPN. The cheating he commits doesn’t always succeed, but it does about 90-95% of the time leaving the rest of the World looking at the Pats in disgust causing Tom Brady to weep during interviews.

  33. brazzz01 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:36 AM

    Belichcik’s mastery of using video to steal other teams play signals
    —–

    Stealing signals is legal in the NFL.

    Always was in fact.

  34. flastrat says: Nov 27, 2013 10:50 AM

    Once in a while I have to log in and comment because I am laughing my ars off at the Patriots-haters and how they throw facts out the window just to make a rediculous comment. For example, someone wrote,

    “All this Belichick-is-a-genius talk is tiring. If he’s that special, how come no Super Bowl wins since 2004…9 years!”

    Well, here are 3 facts:

    1. The Pats made it to TWO Superbowls since. Woohoo for us! Boohoo for you!

    2. Yes, the Pats lost those two Superbowls, but, oh, how great it is to be a Pats fan!! OMG, how great it is!!!

    3. Remember the Bellichick rule? You know, they changed the defensive contact rules so that Bellichick wouldn’t just keep WINNING AND WINNING AND WINNING.

    CASE-IN-POINT, Bellichick is such a genius that he has both the NFL and the fans’ heads spinning!

    Fans’? Yes, you LOVE to hate us.

    NFL? Oh, come on. The end of the Carolina game? The end of the Jets game? Oh, and how about that 4th and 2 against Denver where they spotted the ball, mysteriously, a foot short of where it was caught? Tell, me when do you EVER see them spotting the ball a foot short on anyone else’s critical plays?

    CASE-IN-POINT, just like Manning is Bellichick’s bitch, so are the Patriots-haters.

  35. ttommytom says: Nov 27, 2013 10:56 AM

    The choice was made because the new-ish OT rules.

    The Pats have to stop a guy that can’t throw a spiral and is now against the wind, from scoring a TD.

    The Pats get the ball back with the wind and their guy can kick rather long field goals.

    I don’t see the hoopla over the decision.

  36. dalcow4 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:59 AM

    It’s goofy to me that people think taking the wind was some sort of Super Genius Go Against The Book move.

    Seemed like common sense to me at the time. Still does.

  37. cowpiesnotcowboys says: Nov 27, 2013 11:01 AM

    The new OT rules favor the team that kicks first, so choosing to kick should be the default choice, not a risky or gutsy call. If you choose to kick and the other team scores a field goal on its first possession, then you have a huge advantage of being able to use all 4 downs every series of downs to score a touchdown to win or a field goal to tie. If the opposition doesn’t score at all, then you have the advantage that any score by you wins it without the opposition being given another opportunity. Yes a first possession touchdown by the opposition can beat you, but the advantages listed above put the odds in your favor if you kick first.

  38. brazzz01 says: Nov 27, 2013 11:06 AM

    Team scores a TD on the last play of the game to trail a team by one point. Convert to tie and go to OT.

    I’m waiting for the day Belichick says screw it, we’re going for 2 and the win. Or any NFL coach in fact….

  39. bcgreg says: Nov 27, 2013 11:18 AM

    @ ttommytom

    My thoughts exactly. Peyton is great, but he doesn’t throw a tight spiral that can cut through the wind. Combine that with the FG distance variable, and taking the wind wasn’t such a shocking decision.

  40. harrisonhits2 says: Nov 27, 2013 11:37 AM

    jimmyt says:
    Nov 27, 2013 10:28 AM
    Belichick is one of the few Cheaters left in the game. Most coaches just take the honest standard option every single time and do not cheat.

    Belichcik’s mastery of using video to steal other teams play signals and how using these ill-gotten signals can succeed is one of the reasons why he’s wrongly considered the best coach in the game today
    ______________________

    Lol my IQ temporarily goes down about 20 points every time I read one of your posts.

    You do know that defensive calls come in through radio now to one of the linebackers on each team ? And it has been that way for years now ?

    Guess not.

    Besides, realizing there is nothing to “steal” any more eliminates your argument.

    Not to mention that every long term coach in the game keeps databases of other teams signals whatever they may be. That’s why good teams change their signals as frequently as every quarter.

    Lol. I actually feel bad for you, Logical, Forsbergler and some of the others. Forever trapped enraged at a moment in time that you can’t get past. Forever trying to convince people that the best coach and best QB in the league are not very good. Something that you will never, ever succeed at. You’ll spend the rest of your lives making comments a mentally deficient chipmunk knows are valueless, and crying endlessly because no one will agree with you.

  41. GenXJay says: Nov 27, 2013 12:07 PM

    I’d bet that the Hoodie possess Kraft’s SB ring, not Putin.

  42. thestrategyexpert says: Nov 27, 2013 12:33 PM

    Kraft is full of crap. BB is rarely ever on top of the strategy things in a game. I have a diary that proves him wrong. Kraft doesn’t understand football strategy at a high level and he’s not qualified to recognize if BB delivers on it or not. He doesn’t by my scorecard and Kraft doesn’t get it.

  43. patsbrat says: Nov 27, 2013 12:39 PM

    I was really struck with the coin flip. It looked like the players were confused, like they weren’t sure they were making the right call. Then the TV camera flashed to Belichick to show him just walking away.

    It was not the conventional call, but it was the right call. In Bill we trust.

  44. patsbrat says: Nov 27, 2013 12:44 PM

    @thestrategyexpert – what is this “I have a diary that proves him wrong” stuff? Tell us more…inquiring minds want to know.

  45. thestrategyexpert says: Nov 27, 2013 12:51 PM

    patsbrat:

    I have an NFL Mistakes file that I load up any time I spot an irrefutable strategy mistake that any team makes. It’s going on 5+ years and approaching over 100,000 characters of notated mistakes with time stamps from the game and moment they occurred.

    These are mistakes that have no excuse for EVER happening in a professional football game if you have a smart coach that understands high level strategy. And BB has committed tons of them throughout his career. He’s sloppy on the finer strategy points of the game and he absolutely has no clue on many different things that I have mastered that are seemingly beyond his comprehension level. So it’s just annoying and offensive to hear Kraft act like this guy is on top of things, when that’s my #1 complaint about BB, is that he is NOT often enough on top of things.

    And every single team appears on this list and more than once. There isn’t one team in the NFL who has come close to avoiding simple strategy mistakes. These teams can’t even figure out how to use TOs correctly to save time properly. But I have a large variety of types of mistakes I have discovered beyond just clock issues.

  46. dualprime says: Nov 27, 2013 3:01 PM

    thereisfootballwestofjersey says:
    Nov 27, 2013 10:02 AM
    All this Belichick-is-a-genius talk is tiring. If he’s that special, how come no Super Bowl wins since 2004…9 years!
    =========================
    Because he isn’t special! He’s a good coach that had the best players for a long time, won 3 SB’s. Now he’s a good coach with the best QB and average players.

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