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PFT’s Week 13 picks

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All I wanted was a chance to catch MDS.  And I suddenly have it.

After going 3-1 in our head-to-head disagreements last week, I’m now five games back.  And we disagree on five games this week.  If I can pull off the unlikely-but-not-unpossible five-game sweep, we’ll be tied with four weeks left.

For all our picks for Thanksgiving weekend, scroll baby, scroll.

I was 8-6 last week, MDS was 6-8, and for the year he still leads at 113-63.  I’m 108-68.

Packers at Lions

MDS’s take: Does anyone want to win the NFC North? None of the contenders are playing like it. Two weeks ago, the Lions were in great shape to run away with the division, and now they’ve lost back-to-back games to teams with losing records. Still, I don’t trust the Packers’ defense to rein in a Lions offense with Calvin Johnson (who missed the previous Lions-Packers game with a knee injury) and I don’t trust the Packers’ offense to score much without Aaron Rodgers.

MDS’s pick: Lions 24, Packers 14.

Florio’s take:  Detroit needs to end its recent free fall.  So do the Packers.  With Aaron Rodgers most likely out, the Lions have more talent and more incentive to win.  They’ll still have four games after that to screw things up and miss the playoffs.

Florio’s pick:  Lions 27, Packers 20.

Raiders at Cowboys

MDS’s take: Dallas is neck-and-neck in an NFC East race that seems destined to be determined in Week 17. The Cowboys know they can’t afford any slip-ups, and they’ll avoid one against an overmatched Raiders team.

MDS’s pick: Cowboys 27, Raiders 13.

Florio’s take:  A letdown is entirely possible for the home team, with the erratic and underachieving Raiders coming to town only four days after the Cowboys scored an emotional and physical win over the Giants.  And I’m tempted to pick the upset, because losing in this spot would be the ultimate Cowboys maneuver.  But this could be the year that chances perceptions in Dallas — at least until the Panthers or Cardinals roll into town for the wild-card round of the playoffs.

Florio’s pick:  Cowboys 34, Raiders 21.

Steelers at Ravens

MDS’s take: It says something about how bad the AFC is that the winner of this game will (for at least three days) take the lead for the sixth and final playoff spot. If one of these teams has a playoff run in them, I think it’s Baltimore.

MDS’s pick: Ravens 17, Steelers 14.

Florio’s takeBen Roethlisberger has a 7-2 record against Joe Flacco, and a 3-1 mark in Baltimore since Flacco and John Harbaugh arrived.  More importantly, the Steelers have become the Steelers again.

Florio’s pick:  Steelers 13, Ravens 10.

Buccaneers at Panthers

MDS’s take: The Bucs are playing surprisingly good football on their current three-game winning streak (and in an overtime loss at Seattle before that). But Tampa Bay isn’t on the same level as Carolina, which is playing far too well to get tripped up at home.

MDS’s pick: Panthers 28, Buccaneers 21.

Florio’s take:  It’s another potential letdown for a Panthers team poised to challenge the Saints for the division title.  The Bucs will give Carolina a tough fight and possibly win the game — but these Panthers know how to overcome adversity with a potent defense and a maturing quarterback who soon will be in the MVP discussion.

Florio’s pick:  Panthers 27, Buccaneers 23.

Jaguars at Browns

MDS’s take: This is a tough one. Can I pick a Brandon Weeden-led Browns team to win a game? I don’t feel like I can. But can I pick the Jaguars to win their third consecutive road game? I don’t feel like I can. I suppose I could pick this game to end in a tie, but I’ll say the Browns find a way to win.

MDS’s pick: Browns 12, Jaguars 10.

Florio’s take:   The Factory of Sadness hosts a perpetually sad team that has been a little less sad lately.  I feel sad for anyone who bought tickets for this one.

Florio’s pick:  Browns 24, Jaguars 13.

Titans at Colts

MDS’s take: If the Titans win this one, they can make the AFC South race interesting. But I have a feeling Andrew Luck is going to put the Colts on his back over the final month of the season and drag them to the playoffs.

MDS’s pick: Colts 33, Titans 21.

Florio’s take:  Outscored 93-12 in the first halves of the last four games, the Colts can essentially nail down the AFC South with a win over Tennessee.  It won’t be easy — and they may not go far in the playoffs — but the Colts reclaim the division, even if by default.

Florio’s pick:  Colts 30, Titans 24.

Broncos at Chiefs

MDS’s take: After giving up a 24-0 halftime lead in New England, the pressure is on the Broncos. Lose in Kansas City, and there’s a good chance that they’ll be on the road throughout the playoffs. But I think Peyton Manning will turn things around and win a big one against the Chiefs.

MDS’s pick: Broncos 28, Chiefs 20.

Florio’s take:  The stakes are high for this one, with the winner on track to secure the top seed and the loser relegated at best to No. 5.  Lost in Kansas City’s defensive collapse is that the Chiefs had their best offensive output of the year against the Chargers.

Florio’s pick:  Chiefs 30, Broncos 27.

Bears at Vikings

MDS’s take: Minnesota is a bad matchup for Chicago.  The thing the Bears do worst is stop the run, and the thing the Vikings do best is hand the ball off to Adrian Peterson. The Bears will hurt their own playoff hopes and drop a game in the division.

MDS’s pick: Vikings 24, Bears 23.

Florio’s takeJosh McCown gets another crack at the Vikings, nearly a decade after he knocked Minnesota out of the playoffs in a Week 17 thriller at Arizona.  At least McCown can’t impact the Vikings’ playoff position this time around.

Florio’s pick:  Bears 24, Vikings 21.

Dolphins at Jets

MDS’s take: The Jets had a nice run, but they look like they’re on the verge of collapse. Miami is still playing competitive football.

MDS’s pick: Dolphins 20, Jets 10.

Florio’s take:  It’s an elimination game, as a practical matter, between a pair of AFC East teams that seem to be trying to get eliminated.  The Dolphins get eliminated on Sunday.

Florio’s pick:  Jets 24, Dolphins 16.

Cardinals at Eagles

MDS’s take: This is a surprisingly great game.  The Cardinals’ defense is playing tough, physical football, while Nick Foles and Chip Kelly have the Eagles’ offense rolling. In a close game with playoff implications for both teams, I’ll take the Eagles at home.

MDS’s pick: Eagles 28, Cardinals 24.

Florio’s take:  Former Eagles defensive coordinator Todd Bowles comes home with a much better defense, and one of the hottest teams in the league.  Chip Kelly never saw an Arizona team like this when he was at Oregon.

Florio’s pick:  Cardinals 27, Eagles 20.

Falcons at Bills

MDS’s take: The CFL season is over, and now the Canadian fans get to see two of the NFL’s worst teams square off in Toronto. I’m not sure if I’d pick the Falcons to beat anyone right now.

MDS’s pick: Bills 17, Falcons 14.

Florio’s take:  It’s fitting that the Falcons will be playing in Toronto.  They’ve imploded almost as quickly and completely as the mayor.  The implosion continues.

Florio’s pick:  Bills 20, Falcons 17.

Rams at 49ers

MDS’s take: I love the way the Rams are playing tough, physical football, and I also love the way they’re finally making use of Tavon Austin’s game-changing speed. Unfortunately, they’re catching a 49ers team that looks like it’s getting all the pieces in place for a late-season run.

MDS’s pick: 49ers 31, Rams 17.

Florio’s take:   Before Niners fans get too giddy about Monday night, keep in mind that the victory came against the Redskins.  This next one will be a lot harder.  Throw in the short week and the cross-country flight, and it could be time for an upset.  And I was going to take the upset  And then I remembered that Kellen Clemens is the St. Louis quarterback, and that the 49ers can actually defend against the run.

Florio’s pick:  49ers 20, Rams 10.

Patriots at Texans

MDS’s take: New England beat Houston easily last year, when the Texans were good. The Patriots will surely beat the Texans easily now that they’re bad.

MDS’s pick: Patriots 38, Texans 14.

Florio’s take:   It was nearly a year ago that the Patriots brought the 11-1 Texans back to reality with a 42-14 drubbing in New England.  Since then, the Texans are 4-13.  The letterman jackets are in mothballs, and the coaching staff is about to get exterminated.

Florio’s pick:   Patriots 42, Texans 13.

Bengals at Chargers

MDS’s take: With Geno Atkins and Leon Hall out for the seaosn, I think the Bengals’ defense is going to be a major liability down the stretch. Look for the Chargers’ offense to put a lot of points on the board as San Diego keeps up its run toward the final AFC wild-card berth.

MDS’s pick: Chargers 34, Bengals 28.

Florio’s take:  The Bengals aren’t the same team on the road as they are at home.  The Chargers weren’t the same team at Kansas City that they’ve been most of the year.  Give the advantage to the home team.

Florio’s pick:  Chargers 30, Bengals 21.

Giants at Redskins

MDS’s take: In the race for last place in the NFC East, I think Washington will get to the bottom with another poor showing from Robert Griffin III, who turns the ball over far too often and will do so a couple times against the Giants.

MDS’s pick: Giants 21, Redskins 10.

Florio’s take:  The spotlight of the national stage remains in D.C., and things are getting more and more dysfunctional.  From winning their final seven after starting 3-6 last year, these Redskins could do the opposite, starting at 3-6 and ending at 3-13.

Florio’s pick:  Giants 24, Redsins 13.

Saints at Seahawks

MDS’s take: The best game of the week, between the two best teams in the NFC, will come down to home-field advantage and will all but clinch home field throughout the playoffs for the Seahawks. Seattle is such a tough place to play that it’s hard for me to see the Saints winning there — and hard for me to see the Seahawks losing at home in the playoffs.

MDS’s pick: Seahawks 27, Saints 20.

Florio’s take:  The race for the No. 1 seed ends Monday night, if the Seahawks win.  It becomes a bigger “if” without Brandon Browner and Walter Thurmond.  But the 12th Man can fill the avoid, and the 13th Man (i.e., the weatherman) could be the difference, with freezing temperatures and the possibility of rain/snow in the extended forecast.

Florio’s pick:   Seahawks 24, Saints 17.

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100 Responses to “PFT’s Week 13 picks”
  1. revischrist16 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:26 AM

    @Florio

    As an optimistic Jets fan, how are the Jets supposed to score 24 points? Have you watched our games? 8 FGs off of turnovers?

  2. 8to80texansblog says: Nov 27, 2013 10:27 AM

    Texans got flexed out of SNF this week and then flexed out of the 3pm timeslot.

    Totally deserved…. I’m a diehard fan and I’m not sure I want to watch this team anymore this year….

    #1 pick here we come!

  3. zam0854 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:34 AM

    The ONLY chance Green Bay has this week is when the score is 0-0 at the start of the 1st…

    #FlynnWontWin

  4. ravanator says: Nov 27, 2013 10:35 AM

    Joe “Montana” Flacco will lead us to an amazing victory over the overrated, old, and slow Steelers team. Flacco will throw for 400yds and 4 tds. Everyone come and watch us, the best team in the league, on Thanksgiving night.

    Superbowl MVPs
    Flacco – 1
    Roethlisberger – 0

    #ravensrepeat
    #tworingsmorethenyourteam

  5. thetruthcampaign says: Nov 27, 2013 10:35 AM

    I think pundits are just as confused by these Lions as Lion’s fans are. Nice to be understood.

  6. undefeateddolphins72 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:35 AM

    The Dolphins will show why they are the greatest franchise in professional sports this week when they manhandle the Jets.

    #JetsAreGrounded

  7. bucrightoff says: Nov 27, 2013 10:35 AM

    Cam in the MVP discussion? Thats a joke right? The defense is Carolina’s MVP, the offense will be their downfall in the playoffs.

  8. zam0854 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:36 AM

    AND……….AND……..

    Saints go marching into Seattle and fly home with the W

  9. cmstrick says: Nov 27, 2013 10:37 AM

    I’m glad to see you both picked the Lions. As a Packer fan, that’s a huge load off my mind…

  10. bengalguy says: Nov 27, 2013 10:39 AM

    Zimmers Defense will bring the Chargers Offense back to earth. Dalton’s gang comes out of the bye rejuvenated & fresh.
    Bengals 24 Chargers 13……moving on.

  11. 1phd says: Nov 27, 2013 10:41 AM

    Cardinals fall back to the pack as their fairy tale season reaches the beginning of the end this week.

  12. phillysports1 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:42 AM

    Jaguars will beat Cleveland .

  13. bosfaninva says: Nov 27, 2013 10:43 AM

    The Pats are going to clown the Texans. They could score 50.

  14. overweightman says: Nov 27, 2013 10:44 AM

    ravanator says:
    Nov 27, 2013 10:35 AM
    Joe “Montana” Flacco

    HOW DARE YOU

  15. tformation says: Nov 27, 2013 10:45 AM

    Whoa, Florio taking the Bears? Wow. Didn’t see that coming. I’m a Bears fan, and *I’M* not taking the Bears this week. Gotta do something about our run D. Something fast.

    Rams looked tough last week. They’re my upset pick for this week.

    Lots of great games this week. Monday night should be a burner.

  16. raiderufan says: Nov 27, 2013 10:46 AM

    The Raiders are getting our franchise LT back and our barely XFL worthy LG off the field AND getting RB depth back against the 30th ranked run D in the league.

    The 4th rated rushing attack v the 30th rated rush defense would seem to give us a chance…I don’t know how much of a chance but….

  17. steelcurtainn says: Nov 27, 2013 10:46 AM

    Playoffs are still within reach. Steelers win 23-13 over the Ravens.

  18. travishenryskid says: Nov 27, 2013 10:54 AM

    Are the Bills really one of the worst teams in the NFL? If they didn’t have to start Jeff Tuel and Thad Lewis for 4 weeks, they’d probably be considered on of the better teams. They aren’t starting them anymore. I know, context is hard, and they are the Bills.

  19. billsalldayaday says: Nov 27, 2013 10:54 AM

    Elimination game between Dolphins and Jets? Loser will be one game out. Then they play again in a couple of weeks. Hardly an elimination game.

    Falcons (who should have beaten the Saints last week) and the Bills, who are finally healthy and playing well are the 2 worst teams in the NFL???

    Do you guys watch football or just what other people say?

  20. tvguy22 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:55 AM

    Congrats. You would be in a tie for 77th place in my pool.

  21. kimbo71006 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:56 AM

    I disagree that the Saints don’t have a chance against the Seahawks.

    Saints are more than capable and have the tools to beat the Seahawks, even at home. Its not impossible and has happened before.

    If you look at the stats of both teams, they are pretty evenly matched.

    The Saints are in the Top 6 of the teams with the most MNF wins (Seahawks are not). While the Seahawks have a slight edge with 3 more MNF wins since the Saints, the Saints are 10-2 since Brees/Payton era, which exceeds the Seahawks record during that same timeframe.

    In total offense/defense passing, rushing, points, etc….Saints occupy four Top 5 positions in these catagories. Seahawks occupy three of the Top 5 positions.

    This is NOT the same Saints team from last year or even the year we won the SB. We have the #2 offense in the NFL. While the Seahawks may have a Top 5 defense, so do we. And with the balance of our top ranking offense, we are a force to be reckoned with.

    The Seahawks have had a few close games and already a loss under their belt, we only have one more loss than they do.

    And the 12th man concept–any of you guys been in the Dome when the Saints are playing? They are used to a very rowdy crowd and lots and lots of noise (and indoors, which makes it worse)–that won’t bother them and never has. And the weather, if it snows, it will impact both teams.

    Saints shine on primetime and we expect them to do the same and give the Seahawks loss #2!

    GEAUX Saints!!

  22. sjs5y7 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:56 AM

    @ ravanator You must be an idiot. Your Ravens have not even played that well this year. Who are the 4 TD’s going to even go to? Ray Rice can’t catch every TD.

    #tworingsmorethenyourteam is a REALLY stupid hashtag. First, it’s “than” in that scenario, not “then”. Second, who the hell are you talking to? Yeah, you have two more than the Jaguars. Nice work. Those Steelers that you seem to feel high and mighty over have 6!

    Don’t be a fool. You’re far from the best team in the league. The Ravens are better than some, but not most.

  23. goon698 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:57 AM

    bucrightoff, it’s obvious that you haven’t watched the Panthers play much. The defense is good, but Cam is a big reason why they are winning games. The offensive line is as bad as the Colts. They have a player who starts who was playing DL earlier this season.

    Cam is the passing game and the running game for the Panthers. He leads the team in rushing yards the past several weeks. They have great backs but the line struggles to open any holes. I don’t think Cam is a strong MVP candidate, but the Panthers are winning games because of him and the defense. When Tom Brady and NE carved up the defense, Cam carried the team to victory. He is the Panthers MVP.

  24. sbc85 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:59 AM

    bucrightoff says:
    Nov 27, 2013 10:35 AM
    Cam in the MVP discussion? Thats a joke right? The defense is Carolina’s MVP, the offense will be their downfall in the playoffs.

    ====

    It’s because they saw him lead two back-t0-back game-winning drives. Never mind that his awe-inspiring game stats of a 50% completion rate, 174 yards and interception were main contributors to the Panthers trailing the Dolphins all game. Without that defense the Panthers are .500 or below.

  25. crownofthehelmet says: Nov 27, 2013 11:00 AM

    Steelers 77
    Ravens 0

  26. joetoronto says: Nov 27, 2013 11:05 AM

    I can see how people might think the Raiders are “underachieving” but the team was blown up in the off season.

    They were supposed to tank this year.

  27. The Great Ted Thompson the Genius says: Nov 27, 2013 11:06 AM

    I don’t want it to happen, but I’m afraid the Vikings will beat the Bears this week. Just the way the teams are playing right now, it feels like a Viking win. Goodbye, Marcus Mariota. Hello, Johnny Football.

  28. assuredmutualdestruction says: Nov 27, 2013 11:10 AM

    Seattle is a lock to beat the Saints. PFT writers know it, Seattle fans know it, after Monday night all of you will know it.

  29. ravanator says: Nov 27, 2013 11:11 AM

    In a recent pole of all other 31 NFL team owners, all 31 said they would rather own the Ravens then their current team. Ravens dominate the NFL. You wish your team had our talent.

    #ravensownthesteelers
    #joemontanaflacco

  30. bkh405 says: Nov 27, 2013 11:11 AM

    Rams v. 9ers will be a great show. It’s basically an entirely different Rams team than the one from the Thursday night matchup earlier this year.

    Crabtree gives the Rams fits, but they’ve shown they can slow down Kaep and Gore in the past. It’ll be tight, but I like the Rams in an upset! Look out West!

  31. jrmbadger says: Nov 27, 2013 11:12 AM

    Not sure about the Vikings winning this week, but they seem to be leading the league in arrests.

    Erin Henderson was apparently involved in a DUI incident last week. That was apparently why he wasn’t at practice and on the field.

  32. bigredcards says: Nov 27, 2013 11:14 AM

    No love for the cardinals. well lets go cards

  33. boisestatewhodat says: Nov 27, 2013 11:15 AM

    Saints will force 3 turnovers and win in a route!

    Saints 38
    Seahawks 20

    Defenses are evenly matched but Saints offense is far superior…not a Seahawk hater by any stretch but they’ll drop this one…watch!

  34. whodeybacker says: Nov 27, 2013 11:16 AM

    You give Mike Zimmer a week and a half to gameplan the Chargers? In Zim I trust. Defense needed this bye week to get healthy. Secondly dont be surprised to see the Bengals commit to running the ball and keeping Rivers hot hand on the sideline. Bengals win 24 – 17

  35. 23rdusernameused says: Nov 27, 2013 11:16 AM

    ravanator says:
    Nov 27, 2013 10:35 AM
    Joe “Montana” Flacco

    HOW DARE YOU

    I agree! Do not tarnish Joe Montana’s name. Flacco couldn’t hold Montanas jock strap!

  36. thebirdofprey2 says: Nov 27, 2013 11:20 AM

    The Saints fan gave all these great stats on why his team can win this weekend. Its possible just not very likely. NO came to Seattle in the wild card game the year after winning the Super Bowl. Seattle was in full rebuild mode 7-9 with a patchwork offensive line, Hasselbeck his way out, players like Mike Williams picked off the street.

    The 12th man was clearly a factor and its louder in Seattle than it is in doors NO. Don’t believe me check out who has lead NFL in false starts the past 8 years. Drew Brees is going to be harder to stop without our nickel CB but I want to see this team stop Lynch.

  37. nawlinssaints1956 says: Nov 27, 2013 11:21 AM

    Not many think the Saints have a chance to win in Seattle. No worries; I like the matchup, especially our HC and DC. Saints 27 – Seahawks 17.

  38. obsessedvikingfan says: Nov 27, 2013 11:23 AM

    As a true purple fan, I will always want my Vikings to win. Unlike draft lackeys who want a higher draft pick, I want them to win every week.

    If they lose, I won’t be as upset as I am if they are in the hunt but I will be cheering for a win.

    Go Vikings. Oh, and Go Lions because we know the Packers have lost to 3 teams in a row who had losing records. So they won’t beat the Lions who have a winning record.

  39. skoobyfl says: Nov 27, 2013 11:30 AM

    Bills are one of the worst in the league ?? If they had a healthy starting QB all year & a few bounces, they’d be leading the WC group. The Bills also have the easiest schedule left of the whole group & you guys picked games against most of the remaining teams, so who’s going to be in that last spot in several weeks ?

  40. steelcurtainn says: Nov 27, 2013 11:32 AM

    Steelers 99 Baltimorons 0

  41. assuredmutualdestruction says: Nov 27, 2013 11:36 AM

    @kimbo71006

    Point differential:
    Seattle…127 (4 wins decided by 6 points or less)
    N.O…109 (4 wins decided by 6 points or less)

    You claim Seattle has had more close games? The numbers say that you are uninformed.

    Common opponents:
    ATL
    SF
    AZ
    TB

    Point differential in common games:
    Seattle: 123-59
    Saints: 110-71 (I combined both Atlanta games in which the Saints won both by a combined score of 40-30…Hawks beat them in ATL 33-10)

    The ONLY team that N.O. beat by a wider margin was a home game vs AZ…Seattle beat them 34-22 in their own house (and it wasn’t that close).

    It should be an entertaining game, but Seattle has the clear advantage in almost every regard.

    Have a nice day.

  42. ratsfoiledagain says: Nov 27, 2013 11:37 AM

    kimbo71006 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:56 AM

    The Saints are in the Top 6 of the teams with the most MNF wins (Seahawks are not).
    ———
    Most wins in MNF history. I don’t see the Saints.

    49ers 44
    Dallas 43
    Pitt 40
    Miami 40
    Giants 38
    Broncos 28
    Redskins 27
    Packers 27
    Vikings 26
    Philly 24
    Chicago 23
    NE 22

  43. hehateme2 says: Nov 27, 2013 11:38 AM

    The Dolphins OWN the jets @ Giant Stadium… or whatever they’re calling it these days.

    Do your home work!

  44. jda129 says: Nov 27, 2013 11:40 AM

    kimbo71006 – Seahawks occupy 3 of top 5 offensive positions as you say and this after spending weeks running and passing behind a make shift offensive line and sans Percy Harvin. The line and Harvin are back. We expect offensive production to kick into high gear. Good luck.

  45. assuredmutualdestruction says: Nov 27, 2013 11:45 AM

    boisestatewhodat says:Nov 27, 2013 11:15 AM

    Saints will force 3 turnovers and win in a route!

    Saints 38
    Seahawks 20

    Defenses are evenly matched but Saints offense is far superior…not a Seahawk hater by any stretch but they’ll drop this one…watch!
    ————————————————–

    Saints offense is far superior?

    Average points per game:
    Seattle: 27.8
    Saints: 27.7

    C’mon Saints fans! Get your stats right!

  46. goodellisruiningtheleague says: Nov 27, 2013 11:46 AM

    WOW only picking NYG to win by 11 over the Redskins? That’s being a bit optimistic towards the Redskins don’t you think?

  47. beardinals says: Nov 27, 2013 11:48 AM

    Cardinals will show Foles what an actual NFL defense looks like.

    Also, can anyone tell me in what universe it’s better to have Dallas, NY in the night slot?

  48. unclebluck says: Nov 27, 2013 11:54 AM

    Bill are one of the worst teams in the league…tell me that in 3 weeks when they are 7-7 and looking at a wild card spot…and I hope they get to play the Patriots some where along the way because Brady aint gonna sneak out a win at the end this time

  49. southpaw2k says: Nov 27, 2013 11:57 AM

    I’m going to the game tomorrow night, with an expected temperature of around 21 degrees. With cold like that, both the Steelers and Ravens will need their running games to drive them. The Ravens defense has stepped up big time in the last few games, and will cause a couple costly turnovers for the Steelers.

    Ravens 17
    Steelers 13

  50. assuredmutualdestruction says: Nov 27, 2013 12:01 PM

    kimbo71006 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:56 AM

    The Saints are in the Top 6 of the teams with the most MNF wins (Seahawks are not).
    —————————————————

    Saints fans are making this too easy.

    Best winning percentage in the history of Monday Night Football:

    SEATTLE SEAHAWKS 19-8 (.703)

  51. whiteknightblackheart says: Nov 27, 2013 12:07 PM

    As a Jet fan, this year I am thankful that they won’t ruin my meal tomorrow, and will have the decency to wait until Sunday to spoil my appetite. One buttfumble in a lifetime is enough thank you.

  52. steelersaregodsteam says: Nov 27, 2013 12:11 PM

    I strongly encourage everyone to jump on the Steelers’ bandwagon now before you look foolish for jumping on late.

    We have been talking about the Prophecy for weeks: 10-2 run, leading to the Lombardi hoisting.

    The March® continues tomorrow. Witness glory.

  53. mrwalterisgod says: Nov 27, 2013 12:16 PM

    So how did the Saints do when they traveled to NY and NE and it wasn’t warm and dome like?

    The Saints aren’t going to score a ton of points. Seattle should be able to run the ball on NO (allowing 4.6 YPC), thus allowing them to bleed the clock.

    Sounds like it will be snowy/rainy on Monday night.
    We’ll see how the finesse, pass happy Saints team does. I wouldn’t be putting big money on it.

  54. greenandgold1972 says: Nov 27, 2013 12:16 PM

    Question of talent aside, why the heck would the Lions have more incentive to win? Packers win, they get to the top of the North, that’s not incentive?

  55. hardythekraken says: Nov 27, 2013 12:16 PM

    Anyone claiming that Cam isn’t a huge contributor for the Panthers is an idiot, biased, and hasn’t watched a game this season. During their 7 game win streak, Cam has played very good football, and so has the defense. When the defense plays bad, Cam and the offense step up and help get the win. When Cam and the offense are bad, the defense steps up. That’s what 8-3 teams do.

  56. crownofthehelmet says: Nov 27, 2013 12:18 PM

    LeVeon Bell > Rice + Pierce

  57. harrisonhits2 says: Nov 27, 2013 12:22 PM

    unclebluck says:

    …tell me that in 3 weeks when they are 7-7 and looking at a wild card spot…and I hope they get to play the Patriots some where along the way because Brady aint gonna sneak out a win at the end this time
    ________________

    Bills fans, always optimistic and always a lolercoaster ride for fans of every other team.

    You act as if the Pats are the same team they were early in the year and not the substantially improved one they are now. The Bills are a hopeless and hapless franchise and will be until Ralph Wilson gives up his death grip on the team.

  58. raiderseliminatedfromplayoffsalready says: Nov 27, 2013 12:28 PM

    joetoronto says:Nov 27, 2013 11:05 AM

    I can see how people might think the Raiders are “underachieving” but the team was blown up in the off season.

    They were supposed to tank this year.
    ——————————————————
    Oh…you’re back to being a Raiders fan again this week? Remember when you were a Browns fan, then a Chargers fan, then a Colts fan.

    Because nothing says “not tanking” like another losing season. Moron.

  59. thesportgenius says: Nov 27, 2013 12:29 PM

    Not a Saints fan but the Seahawks’ secondary is missing a couple guys to suspension, so I have to give Brees & Co a sluggers chance.

  60. ngw8070 says: Nov 27, 2013 12:31 PM

    southpaw2k says:Nov 27, 2013 11:57 AM

    I’m going to the game tomorrow night, with an expected temperature of around 21 degrees. With cold like that, both the Steelers and Ravens will need their running games to drive them. The Ravens defense has stepped up big time in the last few games, and will cause a couple costly turnovers for the Steelers.

    Ravens 17
    Steelers 13

    ________________

    In the last 2 weeks the Steelers have given up 1 sack and 0 turnovers. Ben is playing great football right now.

  61. joetoronto says: Nov 27, 2013 12:38 PM

    Ringless teams set the bar much lower than teams with rings. They focus on regular season records, which mean absolutely nothing to teams that have rings, and know better.

    The team from Alaska is a perfect example.

  62. garcia7168 says: Nov 27, 2013 12:38 PM

    “Florio’s pick: Giants 24, REDSINS 13.”

    Niiiiiice, Florio!

  63. sbc85 says: Nov 27, 2013 12:38 PM

    assuredmutualdestruction says:
    Nov 27, 2013 12:01 PM
    kimbo71006 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:56 AM

    The Saints are in the Top 6 of the teams with the most MNF wins (Seahawks are not).
    —————————————————

    Saints fans are making this too easy.

    Best winning percentage in the history of Monday Night Football:

    SEATTLE SEAHAWKS 19-8 (.703)
    ====

    I don’t know what the first person was talking about, but even if it were true about Saints being 6th, overall record really means little considering what teams did 20 years ago means nothing now.

    I think maybe what they were alluding to but are off on is that the Saints are 8-0 in MNF contests since 2009. They tend to play best under the spotlight of primetime TV. It doesn’t mean they win Monday, but they have been pretty great in recent years.

  64. sbc85 says: Nov 27, 2013 12:48 PM

    mrwalterisgod says:
    Nov 27, 2013 12:16 PM
    So how did the Saints do when they traveled to NY and NE and it wasn’t warm and dome like?

    The Saints aren’t going to score a ton of points. Seattle should be able to run the ball on NO (allowing 4.6 YPC), thus allowing them to bleed the clock.

    Sounds like it will be snowy/rainy on Monday night.
    We’ll see how the finesse, pass happy Saints team does. I wouldn’t be putting big money on it.

    ====

    They did pretty good in NE. Scored 27 points and lost at the last second. NE has only lost at home like three times in the past 40 games so no shame in that. The Jets game was horrendous because the O-line got dominated. They and the run game have actually improved a lot since that last loss, but the real test comes Monday.

    I think it’s funny how arrogant Seattle fans are. I personally believe the Saints will lose because it is the more realistic assumption, but if the situation was reversed and Seattle was coming to New Orleans who have just as good of a homefield advantage, I wouldn’t be spouting how the Seahawks have no chance. Especially if we had two CBs out and we’d almost lost to the Bucs at home just a couple of weeks ago. You will probably be proven right, but it would be great to see y’all get humbled a little.

  65. ratsfoiledagain says: Nov 27, 2013 12:58 PM

    joetoronto says: Nov 27, 2013 12:38 PM

    Ringless teams set the bar much lower than teams with rings. They focus on regular season records, which mean absolutely nothing to teams that have rings, and know better.

    The team from Alaska is a perfect example.
    ***************
    What’s your point? You’re just spewing jibberish for no reason.

    Your assumption doesn’t seem to help Chicago, or Dallas, or Miami, or Washington, or the Raiders, or Tampa, or St. Louis.

  66. dannymac17 says: Nov 27, 2013 1:06 PM

    Bengals gonna get beat like a red headed step child (Dalton)

  67. usdcoyotesfan says: Nov 27, 2013 1:08 PM

    Packers 63 Lions 6

  68. sbc85 says: Nov 27, 2013 1:09 PM

    thebirdofprey2 says:
    Nov 27, 2013 11:20 AM
    The Saints fan gave all these great stats on why his team can win this weekend. Its possible just not very likely. NO came to Seattle in the wild card game the year after winning the Super Bowl. Seattle was in full rebuild mode 7-9 with a patchwork offensive line, Hasselbeck his way out, players like Mike Williams picked off the street.
    ====

    The Saints had 474 yards of offense in that game. In Seattle, in January. The reason they lost is because the defense was horrible. Regardless these are two different teams in 2013. No point in comparing.

  69. listenup823 says: Nov 27, 2013 1:15 PM

    Hahaha.. Ravanator kills me everytime he posts something!!….

  70. joetoronto says: Nov 27, 2013 1:24 PM

    ratsfoiledagain says:
    Nov 27, 2013 12:58 PM
    joetoronto says: Nov 27, 2013 12:38 PM

    Ringless teams set the bar much lower than teams with rings. They focus on regular season records, which mean absolutely nothing to teams that have rings, and know better.

    The team from Alaska is a perfect example.
    ***************
    What’s your point? You’re just spewing jibberish for no reason.

    Your assumption doesn’t seem to help Chicago, or Dallas, or Miami, or Washington, or the Raiders, or Tampa, or St. Louis.
    *********************************************
    I’m not sure I can spell it out easy enough for you to understand, but I’ll try.

    Once you win a ring, regular season wins just don’t cut it. Every team is in it to win the Super Bowl, not to have a good regular season.

    Seahawks fans are a perfect example, they thump their chest but haven’t won a damn thing, ever.

  71. stercuilus65 says: Nov 27, 2013 1:26 PM

    beardinals says:
    Nov 27, 2013 11:48 AM
    Cardinals will show Foles what an actual NFL defense looks like.

    ————————————————————————–

    They are going to show them a picture of the Seahawks?

  72. assuredmutualdestruction says: Nov 27, 2013 1:27 PM

    sbc85 says:Nov 27, 2013 1:09 PM

    I think it’s funny how arrogant Seattle fans are. I personally believe the Saints will lose because it is the more realistic assumption, but if the situation was reversed and Seattle was coming to New Orleans who have just as good of a homefield advantage, I wouldn’t be spouting how the Seahawks have no chance. Especially if we had two CBs out and we’d almost lost to the Bucs at home just a couple of weeks ago. You will probably be proven right, but it would be great to see y’all get humbled a little.
    ————————————————

    I personally think it’s funny that you used the Bucs as an example, who happen to be one of the hottest teams in the entire league right now. Their QB just won NFC Offensive Player of the Month honors.

    It’s not like anyone would try to bring their best game vs the team with all the Superbowl hype attached to them, right? SMH

  73. slugbaitspace says: Nov 27, 2013 1:31 PM

    I’m going to have to agree with some other people posting here…I don’t see the Rams losing by 10 or more points.

    In fact, after embarrassing da Bears last week, and humiliating the Colts in their previous game, this is the team apparently hitting on all cylinders just in time. It could be the pivotal game that decides the 49ers’ playoff hopes, and STL’s defense likes to play spoiler.

    I’m betting the Rams this weekend.

  74. sbc85 says: Nov 27, 2013 1:43 PM

    assuredmutualdestruction says:
    Nov 27, 2013 1:27 PM

    I personally think it’s funny that you used the Bucs as an example, who happen to be one of the hottest teams in the entire league right now. Their QB just won NFC Offensive Player of the Month honors.

    It’s not like anyone would try to bring their best game vs the team with all the Superbowl hype attached to them, right? SMH

    ====

    Regardless, the Saints are better than the Bucs. You don’t think the Saints will bring their best too?

  75. kimbo71006 says: Nov 27, 2013 1:51 PM

    kimbo71006 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:56 AM

    The Saints are in the Top 6 of the teams with the most MNF wins (Seahawks are not).
    ———
    Most wins in MNF history. I don’t see the Saints.

    49ers 44
    Dallas 43
    Pitt 40
    Miami 40
    Giants 38
    Broncos 28
    Redskins 27
    Packers 27
    Vikings 26
    Philly 24
    Chicago 23
    NE 22

    ____________________________

    Sorry, but my stats (I got them from the internet too!), say Saints in Top 6. So I’m going with my stats, but thanks for the “entertaining” information.

    Also, Saints 10-2 on MNF since 2006–Seahawks…NOT!

    Seahawks fans out in force…must be scared!

  76. kimbo71006 says: Nov 27, 2013 1:55 PM

    assuredmutualdestruction: I personally find it funny that you are absolutely having a fit about all the negative hype against the Seahawks. They aren’t a very popular team to anyone but their fans, coach has the personality of a wet mop and I do think the Seahawks fans are a tab bit “scared” of the Saints coming on Monday night.

    You should be…GEAUX SAINTS!!

    Upset of the week – Seahawks 10-2, Saints 10-2. Saints home field advantage which guarantees them a trip to the SB.

    Who dat!!

  77. assuredmutualdestruction says: Nov 27, 2013 1:55 PM

    Most Saints fans like to point to how prolific their passing game is. This in all actuality plays into the hands of the Seahawks as they have amazing depth in the secondary (3/4 or the starters are still there and the backups are very, very good). Their pass rush is no joke either.

    The counterpoint to this is the fact that Seattle is just as dominant in their running game as the Saints are in their passing game. The difference is that the Saints are average at stopping the run. This point is getting overlooked on almost every post I read between the two fanbases.

    Trent Dilfer said it best: This is a matchup league. A team like the Rams can compete vs Seattle because they have amazing pass rushers and the Hawks starting tackles were out. In this game, however, they are almost entirely healthy on offense and defense. WITH Harvin at full strength for the first time, I’ll be surprised if the Saints safeties can load the box vs Lynch…they’ll have to pick their poison. Matchup advantages appear to favor the Seahawks.

    And Russell Wilson has all the intangibles that Brees has, he just doesn’t throw as much because Seattle’s identity is running the ball, physicality, and wearing a defense out with Beastmode. But if Wilson needs to air it out, Seattle leads the league in explosive plays 20 yards or more in distance. Add Harvin to that (no, seriously, think about adding Harvin to that), and I think that New Orleans should be happy if they just keep it close.

    Having said all that. I think it will be a great game and hopefully both teams come out of it healthy for the playoffs.

  78. dvdman123 says: Nov 27, 2013 1:57 PM

    Not that it would be much of an upset considering PFT has the Saints as the second best team behind the Seahawks per you power ranking thing. I see them winning Monday night against Seahawks.

  79. kimbo71006 says: Nov 27, 2013 1:58 PM

    assuredmutualdestruction:

    Saints fans are making this too easy.

    Best winning percentage in the history of Monday Night Football:

    SEATTLE SEAHAWKS 19-8 (.703)

    —————————————-

    That stat is from 1979 to present. The Saints are 10-2 on MNF from 2006 to present.

    NEXT…

  80. assuredmutualdestruction says: Nov 27, 2013 2:00 PM

    sbc85

    Regardless, the Saints are better than the Bucs. You don’t think the Saints will bring their best too?
    —————————

    Yes. I do. It’s going to be a playoff atmosphere, so it should be good for both teams to measure themselves against elite competition.

  81. kimbo71006 says: Nov 27, 2013 2:02 PM

    sbc 85: Saints are 10-2 since 2006 (Brees/Payton era) on MNF, that is what I was alluding to.

    They shine in primetime like no other team…and they will again on Monday night, causing the upset of the week.

    GEAUX SAINTS!!

  82. kimbo71006 says: Nov 27, 2013 2:06 PM

    Saints offense is far superior?

    Average points per game:
    Seattle: 27.8
    Saints: 27.7

    C’mon Saints fans! Get your stats right!

    ___________________________

    Got my stats right, you aren’t giving the whole picture. Saints rank ABOVE Seahawks in offense in the league. I said it right and I stand by it. You are more than welcome to look up the stats like I did (all of them).

    Saints have #2 offense in the NFL, Seahawks do not and that is a FACT, not fiction.

  83. kimbo71006 says: Nov 27, 2013 2:20 PM

    Most Saints fans like to point to how prolific their passing game is. This in all actuality plays into the hands of the Seahawks as they have amazing depth in the secondary (3/4 or the starters are still there and the backups are very, very good). Their pass rush is no joke either.

    The counterpoint to this is the fact that Seattle is just as dominant in their running game as the Saints are in their passing game. The difference is that the Saints are average at stopping the run. This point is getting overlooked on almost every post I read between the two fanbases.

    ___________________________

    Let’s try this again with actual facts. Saints rank #3 on Total Offense; #2 on Offense Passing; #5 Total Defense; #3 Defense Passing. Seahawks rank #2 Total Defense; #2 Defense Passing; #3 Offense Rushing.

    Saints lead the league in Sacks, 3rd Down conversion is 45%, Penalty Yards 509, ToP 33.04.

    Seahawks 3rd Down 40%, Penalty Yards 815, ToP 30.39.

    So all of you touting how the Seahawks will run down the clock on the Saints with ToP…um, ok.

    And how your offense is equal to or better than ours…um, ok.

    And look at those penalty yards – 815 (ranks 2nd only to Bucaneers). That alone will help the Saints move the chains.

    Saints (to date for the 2013 regular season) are ranked #3 overall on all stats in the league. Seahawks are ranked #12 overall.

    But they are just going to stomp us huh? And I’m sick and tired of hearing about the 12th man concept…they may be loud, but Saints are used to loud–if you have never attended a game in the Dome, then you really do not know how loud it can get. And us fans in Louisiana aren’t trying to get the “loudest stadium” trophy, we’re working on ANOTHER SB RING!

    GEAUX SAINTS!!

  84. mrlaloosh says: Nov 27, 2013 2:27 PM

    I don’t know why the Saints are flying all the way to Seattle. It’s quite obvious they have no chance to beat the Seahawks. Just look at all the informed fans they have on the internet. Everybody picks Seattle to win so why not just forfeit the game and save all the expense. Sorry Saints fans. You’re destined to lose really bad to the Seahawks….

  85. ratsfoiledagain says: Nov 27, 2013 2:31 PM

    kimbo71006 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:56 AM

    The Saints are in the Top 6 of the teams with the most MNF wins (Seahawks are not).
    ———
    Most wins in MNF history. I don’t see the Saints.

    49ers 44
    Dallas 43
    Pitt 40
    Miami 40
    Giants 38
    Broncos 28
    Redskins 27
    Packers 27
    Vikings 26
    Philly 24
    Chicago 23
    NE 22

    ____________________________

    Sorry, but my stats (I got them from the internet too!), say Saints in Top 6. So I’m going with my stats, but thanks for the “entertaining” information.

    Also, Saints 10-2 on MNF since 2006–Seahawks…NOT!

    Seahawks fans out in force…must be scared!
    *********
    You can say they’re top six all you want. But, if the Saints have only 16 wins, they’re not top six. You failed to specify since year XXXX they’re top six.

    If you’re going to rely on facts, at least get your facts straight.

    Saints fans out in force…must be scared!

  86. ratsfoiledagain says: Nov 27, 2013 2:34 PM

    joetoronto says: Nov 27, 2013 1:24 PM

    ratsfoiledagain says:
    Nov 27, 2013 12:58 PM
    joetoronto says: Nov 27, 2013 12:38 PM

    Ringless teams set the bar much lower than teams with rings. They focus on regular season records, which mean absolutely nothing to teams that have rings, and know better.

    The team from Alaska is a perfect example.
    ***************
    What’s your point? You’re just spewing jibberish for no reason.

    Your assumption doesn’t seem to help Chicago, or Dallas, or Miami, or Washington, or the Raiders, or Tampa, or St. Louis.
    *********************************************
    I’m not sure I can spell it out easy enough for you to understand, but I’ll try.

    Once you win a ring, regular season wins just don’t cut it. Every team is in it to win the Super Bowl, not to have a good regular season.

    Seahawks fans are a perfect example, they thump their chest but haven’t won a damn thing, ever.
    *********
    You seem to be thinned skinned. I bet you were saying the same thing to Saints fans a few years ago eh?

    Teams/franchises that work hard (most do), spend the money in right places, have some lucky bounces here and there, bring in the right personnel (front office/coaching and players via FA or draft) seem to have success if they stick to their respective team philosophy, no?

    You don’t like the Seahawks…That’s fine. However; you’re far from an authority on anything pertaining to how to winning a super bowl, or what fans can/cannot say or do.

    And again, your comments: “Once you win a ring, regular season wins just don’t cut it. Every team is in it to win the Super Bowl, not to have a good regular season”

    Like I said, it doesn’t seem to help Chicago, or Dallas, or Miami, or Washington, or the Raiders, or Tampa, or St. Louis.

    Winning a SB is a crap shoot. There is not tried and true formula.

  87. nolagirl says: Nov 27, 2013 2:34 PM

    Wow! I’m really surprised at how disdainful some of the Seattle fans on this thread are about facing the Saints. I think it will be an exciting challenge for both teams, no? I do hope my Saints contend well with the Seahawks’ pass rush, and they better hope for the same (Saints tied for #1 in sacks) True dat, the Seahawks’ running beast must somehow be corralled, but guess what this time around New Orleans will actually play running backs of their own to help achieve balance and sustain drives. No doubt the tale will be told in the trenches. Stay Sleepless, Seattle.

  88. ripster65 says: Nov 27, 2013 2:48 PM

    ratsfoiledagain says:
    Nov 27, 2013 11:37 AM

    kimbo71006 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:56 AM

    The Saints are in the Top 6 of the teams with the most MNF wins (Seahawks are not).
    ———
    Most wins in MNF history. I don’t see the Saints.
    ——-
    Even if they were up there it wouldn’t matter to Seahawk fans because that’s “ancient history” to them and apparently totally meaningless much like the 49ers storied past w/5 SB wins. To them it’s the here and the now. Even though their rivals SF were just in the SB, apparently that meant nothing either because they didn’t win. One could argue that they are currently the best team (after only two thirds of a season) but that’s really all they have to hang their hats on so enjoy while you can. At the rate things are going up there it’s only a matter of time before Cheaty Petey and his merry band of PEDsters are all suspended or busted and Petey will be on the run once again.

  89. Go-Hawks! says: Nov 27, 2013 2:48 PM

    Most Seahawks fans are not delusional. We know that we can’t take ANY games for granted. The Seahawks have almost lost to some pretty bad teams this year.

    But, this Seahawks team plays it’s best football as time goes on. Russell Wilson plays his best in the 4th quarter. Same with Lynch. Same with the defense. etc. etc.

    The Saints @ Seattle is the best football game any of us will see this year. I think this will be a better football game than a contest between Seattle and Denver. The Saints are a great football team and if anyone can win in Seattle, it’s them. But these Seahawks will find a way to win.

    I’m in! Go Hawks!

  90. ripster65 says: Nov 27, 2013 3:11 PM

    assuredmutualdestruction:

    Saints fans are making this too easy.

    Best winning percentage in the history of Monday Night Football:

    SEATTLE SEAHAWKS 19-8 (.703)
    ——————————
    Again, since the 49ers illustrious past means nothing because it’s history, by Seahawk fan standards, your stat is equally meaningless.

  91. ratsfoiledagain says: Nov 27, 2013 3:33 PM

    ripster65 says: Nov 27, 2013 2:48 PM

    ratsfoiledagain says:
    Nov 27, 2013 11:37 AM

    kimbo71006 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:56 AM

    The Saints are in the Top 6 of the teams with the most MNF wins (Seahawks are not).
    ———
    Most wins in MNF history. I don’t see the Saints.
    ——-
    Even if they were up there it wouldn’t matter to Seahawk fans because that’s “ancient history” to them and apparently totally meaningless much like the 49ers storied past w/5 SB wins. To them it’s the here and the now. Even though their rivals SF were just in the SB, apparently that meant nothing either because they didn’t win. One could argue that they are currently the best team (after only two thirds of a season) but that’s really all they have to hang their hats on so enjoy while you can. At the rate things are going up there it’s only a matter of time before Cheaty Petey and his merry band of PEDsters are all suspended or busted and Petey will be on the run once again.
    **********
    **SIGH**

    The guy stated the Saints had the 6th most wins in MNF history. I listed the 12 teams with the most wins in MNF history, and stated the Saints weren’t among them.

    Additionally, Seattle has 19 MNF wins, the Saints have 16. If the Saints were in the top ten, like the poster stated, wouldn’t Seattle be listed above the Saints?

    But you? All you did was just rant on and on about nothing relating to the posted thread.

  92. 12thmanseattle says: Nov 27, 2013 4:53 PM

    kimbo71006 says:
    Nov 27, 2013 2:20 PM
    Most Saints fans like to point to how prolific their passing game is. This in all actuality plays into the hands of the Seahawks as they have amazing depth in the secondary (3/4 or the starters are still there and the backups are very, very good). Their pass rush is no joke either.

    The counterpoint to this is the fact that Seattle is just as dominant in their running game as the Saints are in their passing game. The difference is that the Saints are average at stopping the run. This point is getting overlooked on almost every post I read between the two fanbases.

    ___________________________

    Let’s try this again with actual facts. Saints rank #3 on Total Offense; #2 on Offense Passing; #5 Total Defense; #3 Defense Passing. Seahawks rank #2 Total Defense; #2 Defense Passing; #3 Offense Rushing.

    Saints lead the league in Sacks, 3rd Down conversion is 45%, Penalty Yards 509, ToP 33.04.

    Seahawks 3rd Down 40%, Penalty Yards 815, ToP 30.39.

    So all of you touting how the Seahawks will run down the clock on the Saints with ToP…um, ok.

    And how your offense is equal to or better than ours…um, ok.

    And look at those penalty yards – 815 (ranks 2nd only to Bucaneers). That alone will help the Saints move the chains.

    Saints (to date for the 2013 regular season) are ranked #3 overall on all stats in the league. Seahawks are ranked #12 overall.

    But they are just going to stomp us huh? And I’m sick and tired of hearing about the 12th man concept…they may be loud, but Saints are used to loud–if you have never attended a game in the Dome, then you really do not know how loud it can get. And us fans in Louisiana aren’t trying to get the “loudest stadium” trophy, we’re working on ANOTHER SB RING!

    GEAUX SAINTS!!

    ___________________________________

    Kimbo you’re not getting the point. I get it you wanna play the antagonist that all fine and dandy nobody cares. The stat you are conveniently ignoring( the one he was talking about) is how well you do against the rush. And the answer to that is you do TERRIBLY. 4.6 yeards per carry I believe.. Also your point about how well the Saints do at home when the crowd is quiet when theyre on offense is not relevant. the place will be loud while they are trying to run plays which they will not be used to. With that being said it will be a good game either way. Both teams are good and it will tell us alot about both teams..

    I think the hawks will pull out a w not because im a hawks fan and will be there but because the Hawks don’t generally lose at home. If the game were in NO it may be a different story but the game isn’t being played there
    GO HAWKS

  93. itmustbejj says: Nov 27, 2013 4:56 PM

    “Colts reclaim the division, even if by default.”

    Why would they have to reclaim it when they lead the division exactly?

  94. justwinbaby29 says: Nov 27, 2013 7:35 PM

    The Raiders are many things but “underachieving”? This is the same roster that many had pegged for an 0-16 season.

  95. dukeearl says: Nov 27, 2013 9:16 PM

    ratsfoiledagain says:
    Nov 27, 2013 3:33 PM
    ripster65 says: Nov 27, 2013 2:48 PM

    ratsfoiledagain says:
    Nov 27, 2013 11:37 AM

    kimbo71006 says: Nov 27, 2013 10:56 AM

    The Saints are in the Top 6 of the teams with the most MNF wins (Seahawks are not).
    ———
    Most wins in MNF history. I don’t see the Saints.
    ——-
    Even if they were up there it wouldn’t matter to Seahawk fans because that’s “ancient history” to them and apparently totally meaningless much like the 49ers storied past w/5 SB wins. To them it’s the here and the now. Even though their rivals SF were just in the SB, apparently that meant nothing either because they didn’t win.

    ************************
    Even if the 49er’s had won the Superbowl last season, it would have no bearing on this season.
    Perfect example, Baltimore Ravens.

    No team is going to fall over just because the team they are playing against won the Superbowl last year or 20 years ago.

    Each team (including the Seahawks) needs to play each game one at a time. Seahawks have done that.

    If the Saints manage to win, I’ll be in here to congratulate their win.

    I hope we can get the same from the Saints fans.

    Previously all we get are excuses and insults.

  96. swchiefsfanatic says: Nov 28, 2013 12:57 AM

    billsalldayaday says: Nov 27, 2013 10:54 AM Elimination game between Dolphins and Jets? Loser will be one game out. Then they play again in a couple of weeks. Hardly an elimination game. Falcons (who should have beaten the Saints last week) and the Bills, who are finally healthy and playing well are the 2 worst teams in the NFL??? Do you guys watch football or just what other people say?
    ……………………………
    Well since the falcons are already( and the first team) eliminated from making the playoffs…. i’d say that that part is at least fair.

  97. swchiefsfanatic says: Nov 28, 2013 1:49 AM

    Kinda strange how this turned into a NO/Seattle debate. Personally, i’d take the saints. Sorry hawk fans, but that dominate defense, and i do agree with that, has not faced a passing threat like this one. There are just to many options for Drew and they create matchup problems. Graham is big and physical and anyone in your 2ndary wont be able to handle him alone. You’re best corner will hagta stay with colsten. Nobodys gonna be left for little sproles he’s over looked and has made teams pay all year.

    This is very similar to kc’s issues with denver. To many options, makes you choose between coverage and rush. Hard to do both.

    I’m very Defense minded, and i love what they have going on up there, but this league is favoring the offense and the pass with thier rules lately so penaltys will probably be a factor for you guys too. Good luck.

  98. rrthomasxyz says: Nov 28, 2013 4:33 PM

    Browner will likely either win his case or take it to the courts. One of those violations occurred when he was out of the league and failed to attend a drug test. Brandon never received notification of the request to attend. Thus, he should receive a 4 game suspension and not a 1 year penalty. I’m disappointed bleacher reports doesn’t do it’s research.

  99. hopper15 says: Nov 28, 2013 9:00 PM

    “This next one will be a lot harder. Throw in the short week and the cross-country flight, and it could be time for an upset. ”

    As hard as going to St.Louis and blowing them out 35-11 on a short week? and that was with Sam Bradford as their starting QB.

  100. coolherc says: Nov 29, 2013 10:45 AM

    wchiefsfanatic says:
    Nov 28, 2013 1:49 AM
    Kinda strange how this turned into a NO/Seattle debate. Personally, i’d take the saints. Sorry hawk fans, but that dominate defense, and i do agree with that, has not faced a passing threat like this one. There are just to many options for Drew and they create matchup problems. Graham is big and physical and anyone in your 2ndary wont be able to handle him alone. You’re best corner will hagta stay with colsten. Nobodys gonna be left for little sproles he’s over looked and has made teams pay all year.

    This is very similar to kc’s issues with denver. To many options, makes you choose between coverage and rush. Hard to do both.

    I’m very Defense minded, and i love what they have going on up there, but this league is favoring the offense and the pass with thier rules lately so penaltys will probably be a factor for you guys too. Good luck.

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