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All options are on the table for Tomlin discipline

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The Sunday pregame shows featured plenty of discussion and reports and speculation about the discipline to be imposed on the Steelers and/or coach Mike Tomlin for Tomlin’s turkey leg dance on Thanksgiving night.

Soon, the void will be filled by facts.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the review of Tomlin’s “lost placement” that placed him on the white stripe with a foot on the field in the path of Ravens receiver Jacoby Jones commences Monday morning at 345 Park Avenue.  As we reported on Thursday night, the decision initially falls under the jurisdiction of executive V.P. of football operations Ray Anderson.

The source says that all options are on the table.  While the smart money remains on the payment of money (a lot of it) by the team and/or Tomlin, no decisions have been made.

“All the noise out there is speculation,” the source said.

Look for a decision by the middle of the week.  And look for either Steelers fans or non-Steelers fans to complain about the outcome, whatever it may be.

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  1. mogogo1 says: Dec 2, 2013 8:05 AM

    He could have pulled a Jason Kidd and threw soda at Jones as he ran by.

  2. joetoronto says: Dec 2, 2013 8:06 AM

    Anything short of a suspension AND a fine is a sham, because you know a player would get suspended and coaches should lead by example.

  3. touchdownroddywhite says: Dec 2, 2013 8:12 AM

    I hate the Steelers like most non-Steeler fans, but I like Tomlin. Seems like my kinda guy. That said 100k sounds pretty fair for trying to cheat. The last guy lost his job, just sayin’…

  4. brownspower says: Dec 2, 2013 8:15 AM

    The refs that allowed him (and the rest of the team) to crowd the edge of the field should get part of the blame. None of them are permitted to be there but when someone pulls something like this the refs aren’t even part of the discussion. Why are they untouchable?

  5. wtfchiefs says: Dec 2, 2013 8:15 AM

    They should make him sit in a chair during games on the sideline for the rest of his career.

  6. pflynn20 says: Dec 2, 2013 8:15 AM

    Tomlin is overrated as a head coach

  7. bengalskuta82 says: Dec 2, 2013 8:20 AM

    Tomlin lost his step. He’s a class act. He didn’t do it on purpose.

  8. Canyonero says: Dec 2, 2013 8:23 AM

    Good, it was a dumb move. Tomlin’s been great for the Steelers, but come on..

  9. kokoskmr says: Dec 2, 2013 8:23 AM

    Does the discipline change b/c there was no flag on the field? If so, harsher or less harsh? How about Tomlin’s new place on the competition committee?

    I’m still betting on the league going “soft” on a team and coach that are such fan favorites.

  10. pooflingingmonkey says: Dec 2, 2013 8:27 AM

    It’s a really sleazy thing to do to put yourself in that position. But it’s typical for the Steelers to do anything they can to win, whether it’s within the rules or not. Tomlin should be suspended for at least one game, but I doubt Goodell will do anything substantive.

  11. kokoskmr says: Dec 2, 2013 8:28 AM

    What about player safety? If Jones had collided with Tomlin, wouldn’t that have risked a serious injury? The league MUST DO SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT or all of their protestations about player safety will continue to be derided.

    They suspended Sean Payton for a season over player safety.

    Your move, NFL.

  12. pastabelly says: Dec 2, 2013 8:31 AM

    If his name were Belichick and not Tomlin, there would already be calls for suspensions and loss of draft picks. Media darling and face of the league Tomlin will be dealt with very carefully from a league that cares more about its image than anything.

  13. Stiller43 says: Dec 2, 2013 8:33 AM

    Fine and nothing else. Done

  14. brianjoates says: Dec 2, 2013 8:34 AM

    In one play Tomlin turned a fine coaching career into being a punchline forever.

  15. sbchampsagain says: Dec 2, 2013 8:36 AM

    The precedent has been set by the league.

    The Jets coach was suspended for the remainder of the season.

    But fines and draft picks are ok too.

    The league showed with Spygate that they don’t take kindly to cheating. And this was pretty egregious.

  16. HerculesHochuli says: Dec 2, 2013 8:45 AM

    I loathe the Steelers but Tomlin should be fined at most and that should be it for the discipline. The fact that they’re discussing losing a draft pick on top of that is absolutely outrageous.

  17. nesuperfan says: Dec 2, 2013 8:46 AM

    One more thing does not make sense about Tomlin’s lie: You were looking at the Jumbotron, yet you could not see it from behind the white line? You could not see it from row 100? Oh, right, you can see it from almost anywhere in the stadium except directly under it.

  18. southpaw2k says: Dec 2, 2013 8:56 AM

    I’m a Ravens fan, and I’d really like to believe that Tomlin didn’t do anything intentional in his actions Thursday night. After watching replays of Tomlin and Jacoby, I just can’t buy his “explanation.” Even if what he said was true, there was no reason to be in the white painted section in order to get a view of the jumbotron. He also certainly didn’t need to take a step into the field of play in order to take a step back either. I’d say the league would be perfectly justified in stripping the Steelers of a draft pick in addition to massive fine for Tomlin’s action.

  19. seabreezes51 says: Dec 2, 2013 8:56 AM

    Money doesn’t matter. Draft picks matter

  20. u4iadman says: Dec 2, 2013 9:03 AM

    Guy is a fraud.

  21. draftazoid says: Dec 2, 2013 9:05 AM

    A 1st and a 3rd round draft pick would be great (Haha).
    They should also fine the referees at both the Redskins/Giants and Cardinals/Eagles for their incompetance.
    Allowing the Eagles DB to hold with 2 hands, with no penalty, and then get the Cardinals DB for a very slight hold at the end of the game is just plain wrong.
    Where do they get these ref’s, Kmart?

  22. getyourownname says: Dec 2, 2013 9:06 AM

    He should be required to participate on Dancing With The Stars.

    Will his team really miss him the rest of the season?

  23. olcap says: Dec 2, 2013 9:10 AM

    brianjoates says: Dec 2, 2013 8:34 AM

    In one play Tomlin turned a fine coaching career into being a punchline forever.
    —————–

    A fine coaching career? What has Mike Tomlin done on his own as the head coach, to strengthen his team, to school his team, to LEAD his team?

    The much-used statement that Tomlin won with Cowher’s players has truth. We are seeing Tomlin’s players now. And Tomlin’s system. Which now obviously includes a blatant disregard for good sportsmanship and respect for the game. Tomlin is a cancer to the Steeler organization and to pro football and his obvious (I simply cannot imagine how the NFL is going to say that it wasn’t intentional – the tape does not lie) cheating will forever put a label of cheater on the team, just as spygate has for the NE team.

    If the Rooneys stand by Tomlin on this, then they too will lose massive respect from knowledgeable fans who know what they saw was not unintentional, and was not an accident. Any person or organization that tells us not to believe our “lying eyes” in this case, will be remembered as being part of the coverup.

  24. crownofthehelmet says: Dec 2, 2013 9:10 AM

    I normally would be worried this would be a distraction for Sunday’s game – but it’s Miami. Big deal.

  25. weepingjebus says: Dec 2, 2013 9:15 AM

    He’s the head coach of a team with an average player age of approximately 47. Hasn’t he been punished enough?

  26. Nofoolnodrool says: Dec 2, 2013 9:16 AM

    So far most of the posts are from Steeler haters which immediately tells me not to expect logic in the post. Ladies put it in perspective, Tomlins actions were unacceptable whether intentional or not, but it didn’t leave two guys dead in Atlanta or a missing white suit, it wasn’t as premeditated to the degree as the Pats spy gate. So let’s unjerk our knees, put on our fairness glasses/ versus our homer shades, and think about a reasonable precedent setting fine…..not hard to grasp really.

  27. mdagnew1 says: Dec 2, 2013 9:17 AM

    250k and a 6th round pick…

  28. bengalsucker says: Dec 2, 2013 9:19 AM

    The Jets coach that did this got suspended for the rest of the year. Why is Tomlin any different? He could have ended Jones’ career if they had collided just right. Just like a Steeler, willing to cheat to win. He tried to pull a Kimo Von Oelhoffen on the Ravens. Steelers knew the Bengals would roll all over them that game so they sent Kimo in to take Palmer out of the game. Nothing but cheaters. If the league gives Tomlin any less than what the Jets coach got, it’s a sham.

  29. killerstiller says: Dec 2, 2013 9:21 AM

    Perfect excuse to fire his sorry butt! He is not a good in-game decision maker. He & Colbert have gutted this team. At best he can’t find good assistant coaches. At worst, he is a cheater! I think they should clean house & take that salary cap guru Omar Khan with them. Unfortunately, Dan won’t fire Art II! He’s the biggest failure of the bunch!

  30. killerstiller says: Dec 2, 2013 9:22 AM

    @ weepingjebus says: Dec 2, 2013 9:15 AM

    He’s the head coach of a team with an average player age of approximately 47. Hasn’t he been punished enough?

    This is his team! Remember! Not Cowher’s! He & Colbert built this mess!

  31. FinFan68 says: Dec 2, 2013 9:24 AM

    Review all the footage. There has to be some of how he got out there. Meandering while having a conversation with another coach would be less damaging than a bee-line for the sideline.

  32. Nofoolnodrool says: Dec 2, 2013 9:27 AM

    If the Rooneys stand by Tomlin on this, then they too will lose massive respect from knowledgeable fans who know what they saw was not unintentional, and was not an accident. Any person or organization that tells us not to believe our “lying eyes” in this case, will be remembered as being part of the coverup.

    Not being one of the knowledgeable is evident in your post. Your bias against the Steelers is quite obvious in your post, but also in your many other trolling posts concerning the steelers. The loss of your respect is like a pimple on an elephants butt…not really noticeable. Try to disguise your hatred with better logic….it will be difficult but a positive maturing exercise.

  33. gosfvr says: Dec 2, 2013 9:27 AM

    Not a fan of either team, however this needs severe discipline.
    The only things team’s understand are loss of draft picks and/or loss of salary cap space. That is it.

    Draft picks will hurt more, they are the building blocks of a franchise, nothing will cause teams to comply faster.

  34. ravenswhat says: Dec 2, 2013 9:33 AM

    Given the magnitude of the game and the fact that his cheating could have resulted in a win (he knew a TD there iced the game) and therefore stopped the ravens from a potential playoff spot…I think he deserves a huge fine both from the NFL and the Steelers. They should lose a draft pick as well but that won’t happen.

    He’s a cheater and I lost any respect I had for him. That rivalry is and was a sacred one before he came along and he pooped all over that.

    Shame on you Tomlin.

  35. rhamrhoddy says: Dec 2, 2013 9:36 AM

    Too bad Jones didn’t have the presence of mind to absolutely blast Tomlin when he got in his way.

  36. mikemaric says: Dec 2, 2013 9:38 AM

    Tomlin would be best served to say that Joe Flacco told him it was okay to do this.

  37. SmashMouthFootball says: Dec 2, 2013 9:38 AM

    Fine him and move on. The embarrassment he, the team, and the fan base are feeling will last a nice long time. This move ranks right up there with the “Butt Fumble”.

  38. jf203 says: Dec 2, 2013 9:39 AM

    Jones should have ran right into him and A) hurt him good, and B) it would have been looked on in a much bigger scale…..the Ravens given a TD and Steeler fans whining as usual

  39. spungy says: Dec 2, 2013 9:39 AM

    Don’t do anything extreme enough to make the Steelers replace him. They might go out and get a good coach.

  40. sbchampsagain says: Dec 2, 2013 9:42 AM

    First the Jets do it, now the Steelers.

    It’s becoming a trend.

    A pathetic one, but a trend none the less.

  41. basedrum777 says: Dec 2, 2013 9:43 AM

    He should get fined and suspended one game at least. I think it’ll probably be just a fine. Be honest though, every team’s coach walks onto the field during the game, even during plays. I think he probably took his timing moving to get an advantage though. I like MT but this is a pretty big issue when it comes to safety.

  42. ravens533 says: Dec 2, 2013 9:43 AM

    The NFL needs to come down harshly on Tomlin but not penalize the Steeler organization more than the loss of their head coach for the rest of the season at the least. If the NFL just fines Tomlin, then they will have gone against their on record for penalizing they have set for others in the white area of the side line.

    Also need to deal tough on the official that ran behind Tomlin.

    Then the league has to address the continuing problem of bad officiating in general.

  43. flaccodelic says: Dec 2, 2013 9:44 AM

    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Dec 2, 2013 9:16 AM
    So far most of the posts are from Steeler haters which immediately tells me not to expect logic in the post. Ladies put it in perspective, Tomlins actions were unacceptable whether intentional or not, but it didn’t leave two guys dead in Atlanta or a missing white suit, it wasn’t as premeditated to the degree as the Pats spy gate. So let’s unjerk our knees, put on our fairness glasses/ versus our homer shades, and think about a reasonable precedent setting fine…..not hard to grasp really.

    —-

    So to recap, your defense of your coach stepping onto the field and directly affecting a play is: Ray Lewis. Who isn’t even on the team any more.
    That’s Steeler Fan logic at its finest!

    For the record, I don’t think he was trying to trip Jones, but he was definitely trying to get into his head. He should be fined, but taking away draft picks is too much. Also not really beneficial considering the way the team drafts these days.

  44. Nofoolnodrool says: Dec 2, 2013 9:46 AM

    The league showed with Spygate that they don’t take kindly to cheating. And this was pretty egregious.

    So where does it rank on The Missing White Suit Scale of Egregious behavior…..I eagerly await your unbiased reply….lol.

  45. southpaw2k says: Dec 2, 2013 9:47 AM

    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Dec 2, 2013 9:16 AM
    So far most of the posts are from Steeler haters which immediately tells me not to expect logic in the post. Ladies put it in perspective, Tomlins actions were unacceptable whether intentional or not, but it didn’t leave two guys dead in Atlanta or a missing white suit, it wasn’t as premeditated to the degree as the Pats spy gate. So let’s unjerk our knees, put on our fairness glasses/ versus our homer shades, and think about a reasonable precedent setting fine…..not hard to grasp really.

    ————————————————–

    You aren’t seriously comparing Tomlin’s actions to the Ray Lewis case, are you?

    A play that occurred on a football field versus a player who was implicated in a murder trial?

    Lest you forget, Ray Lewis was found guilty of obstruction of justice and served a one year probation sentence. His two co-defendants were found not guilty by reason of self-defense, and they weren’t athletes or celebrities at all. And the victims had histories of drug dealing and weapons charges, so they were hardly upstanding citizens.

    I’m still amazed we’re having this argument nearly 13 years after the fact.

    Tomlin wanted to stop Jacoby from running his kick off all the way back for a touchdown, so he interfered as best he could while making it look accidental. He should have been flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct during the game, but he wasn’t. I don’t think losing a draft pick is that crazy a penalty.

  46. daytonaken says: Dec 2, 2013 9:51 AM

    “No explanations, no excuses,” Mike Tomlin. Then his explanation was a lie. He has lost respect among his team, the league and all football fans.

  47. fasbss53 says: Dec 2, 2013 10:01 AM

    I new he always bush! He stands on the sidelines letting his coordinators make the decisions. He is not a head coach! That is why he took a team Bill Cowher built and took it to where it is today!
    He is Guilty and should be suspended the rest of the season to think about his actions and smurk on his face after the play!
    GUILTY AS CHARGED!

  48. Nofoolnodrool says: Dec 2, 2013 10:04 AM

    Raven fans my point is trying to put your biased reaction in its proper perspective and get you to see how hypocritical your judgement of Tomlin and his character…..still waiting for his White Suit a Score.

  49. ravenmomma says: Dec 2, 2013 10:09 AM

    Mike Tomlin makes millions of dollars…do you really think even fining him $100K is going to hurt him? That’s pocket change to him. The penalty has to be severe enough to hurt him and make him think about his actions next time.

    A fine example Tomlin has set for his team, not to mention his children. You could expect this out of another player possibly but a head coach? So the message he sent was that he didn’t believe his guys could win the game without cheating. Nice way to show confidence there Mike and put a black mark on your coaching career. I would rather lose a game than lose my self respect.

  50. finsguy says: Dec 2, 2013 10:19 AM

    He should be forced to coach the Minnesota Vikings for a minimum of 3 years. Now THAT would teach him a lesson and strike fear in other coaches so that something like this would never happen again.

  51. southpaw2k says: Dec 2, 2013 10:20 AM

    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Dec 2, 2013 10:04 AM
    Raven fans my point is trying to put your biased reaction in its proper perspective and get you to see how hypocritical your judgement of Tomlin and his character…..still waiting for his White Suit a Score.

    ————————————————–

    Definition of irony: Steelers fan asking Ravens fans to put personal bias aside when he brings up the infamous white suit Ray Lewis had worn the night he was in Atlanta.

    Extra irony: Ray Lewis faced proper punishment for his crimes and spent the last 13 years making up for his behaviors, including trying to motivate young people to not hang around with the types of people Lewis had associated with before he changed his life.

    Irony trifecta: If the situation was reversed, Steelers fans would be calling for John Harbaugh’s head on a plate.

  52. djstat says: Dec 2, 2013 10:20 AM

    Suspend him one game. Forgetting that he interfered, he could have tripped jones which could have injured him

  53. flaccodelic says: Dec 2, 2013 10:27 AM

    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Dec 2, 2013 10:04 AM
    Raven fans my point is trying to put your biased reaction in its proper perspective and get you to see how hypocritical your judgement of Tomlin and his character…..still waiting for his White Suit a Score.

    —-

    There is much more opportunity for hypocrisy and biased judgement based on an event that is 13 years old and occurred during a fight away from a football field than there is based on an event that the entire football-watching nation witnessed on live television. I’m sure you love it when Rothlisberger’s “alleged” assaults are brought up when discussing his contributions to a football game. Also, Ray Lewis is not on the team. I repeat, he has left the building.

    Your comparison is absurd, and sounds a little desperate.

  54. northstarnic says: Dec 2, 2013 10:38 AM

    Throw the book at him. What a greasy, bush-league move.
    Surprised Pete the Cheat didn’t beat him to it.

  55. youngbloodsfibula says: Dec 2, 2013 10:39 AM

    FinFan68 says:

    Review all the footage. There has to be some of how he got out there. Meandering while having a conversation with another coach would be less damaging than a bee-line for the sideline.

    ____________

    This was something I had been thinking about and is an important point. There are a lot of cameras around. Are there any that show Tomlin’s position as the punt teams are going out on the field, lining up, snapping the ball and covering the kick? Where is Tomlin at all of these stages? Does his position change and does he appear to be noticing where he’s positioning himself at this time or is he fixated on the JumboTron?

    Seems like working for the NFL entails being a detective these days.

  56. osteelers says: Dec 2, 2013 10:42 AM

    As a long time Steelers fan and season ticket holder the hypocrisy of the NFL is mind bending. The only thing the NFL wants to protect is the NFL logo, the brand name, its NFL shield. Everything else is arbitrary. Player safety, integrity of the game, blah blah blah. If you go to Heinz Field and sign up as a designated driver and get a free soda, you do it at the Bud Light booth (hypocrites), they care only about gate receipts and its brand name. I do expect a heavy fine and punishment for this incident as there should be, but they want you to make sure you ‘feel like’ they care about you and the ‘integrity’ of the game. Beer and violent commercials during the game are okay but a Tim Tebow anti-abortion ad is too offensive for the family entertainment they provide. Beyonce humping the stage is okay but you can’t have a firearms commercial permitted during the Super Bowl because thats too offensive. Do you see the hypocrisy?

  57. cfeeley52 says: Dec 2, 2013 10:48 AM

    @nofool
    Are you really bringing up Ray Lewis AGAIN??? Whenever the Steelers do something you can’t defend the only argument you fall back on is Ray Lewis blah blah white suit blah blah. Then you ask us to not be biased??? Then please explain Big Ben’s barroom escapades… or just do us all a favor and STICK TO A RELEVANT TOPIC

  58. bunkmcnulty says: Dec 2, 2013 10:51 AM

    To be fair, I am a Ravens fan so I know am not objective.

    That said, I like Tomlin a lot. But that was a bonehead move even being that close to the player with the ball. Thankfully for Tomlin, his team lost and that play did not play out even more than it is.

    I will say had Harbaugh been the one to do this, Steeler fans would want a pound of flesh and more. So even the ridiculous “homer” comments are deserved, but not rational.

    The irrational thought is the Steeler fan using the scorched earth strategy, my team effed up so now let me bring up Ray Lewis, and SpyGate to make us not look so bad. What a sad approach!

    I think a fine (or fines) does NOTHING. And I think a draft pick loss is ridiculous. That leaves only a suspension as plausible. There is no Players Union involved, so the league has much more latitude with this than when a player does something wrong.

    But the Steelers are a league “darling” at the top levels and a $100,000 fine to the coach and $100,000 for the team will seem like a lot to all of us. It’s meaningless to them. But the PR side will make it seem like a lot, and make it seem suitable. That is why the only real “suitable” punishment would be a suspension of the coach. I’d say 2 games, but I want him on the sidelines against Cincy. I think a one game suspension of the coach is the most fitting punishment. But it will wind up being be fines – a slap on the wrist!

  59. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 2, 2013 10:54 AM

    Funny to see ratbird fans on here crying about this. You would think they lost the game! Imagine If they list! And they are talking about the moral compass of tomlin. LOL. Meanwhile theyve had a murderer and 3 guys convicted of domestic abuse! Hahahaha. Ratbird fans never disappont in the finest category! My only regret for tomlins actions was that the steelers didnt win! Outside of that I loved the move! #tomlingate

  60. Nofoolnodrool says: Dec 2, 2013 10:56 AM

    Your comparison is absurd, and sounds a little desperate.

    Of course it’s absurd just as much as expecting the use of logic and perspective by a Raven homer. Purple is not the primary color of reality….. Still waiting for Tomlins White Suit Score for Egregious Behaviour…..perspective was first discovered during the renaissance , hopefully it’s reached Baltimore by now, but I am not getting desperate waiting for it to show up.

  61. patriottony says: Dec 2, 2013 10:59 AM

    WHILE I have no dog in this HUNT,,,I was stunned when I saw the old video of COWHER doing the same thing 12 years ago…in fact cowher took a half hearted swing at the returner,,,,as he passed….I dont recall if he was fined or not. On the NBC pregame show Cowher,,,,completely denied it until they played the video. So this is just a “ooops” really,,,prove I intended to do it…thing…..But blame the REFS for not enforcing the rule….
    I have not a clue what is going on with the REFS this season..every week a crucial game or call is blown…..Jets/PATS,, Skins/Giants,,Steelers/Ravens Saints,,,PATS/Carolina…..the list is endless

  62. southpaw2k says: Dec 2, 2013 11:04 AM

    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Dec 2, 2013 10:56 AM
    Your comparison is absurd, and sounds a little desperate.

    Of course it’s absurd just as much as expecting the use of logic and perspective by a Raven homer. Purple is not the primary color of reality….. Still waiting for Tomlins White Suit Score for Egregious Behaviour…..perspective was first discovered during the renaissance , hopefully it’s reached Baltimore by now, but I am not getting desperate waiting for it to show up.

    ———————————————–

    I know you typed everything you just said there in English, but despite reading your post about 5 times I have absolutely no idea what you’re trying to say.

  63. bunkmcnulty says: Dec 2, 2013 11:09 AM

    @Nofool,

    So if I understand your comment correctly, since the Baltimore fans lack logic and perspective it’s ok for you to do same?

    As I said, that’s sad. You really should have higher expectations for yourself.

    But you earn points for the correct spelling of egregious. But were not in England. Here we call it behavior.

    Smile, you could be a Browns fan. They lost to Jax.

  64. whodeybacker says: Dec 2, 2013 11:12 AM

    Take a draft pick from them and this bs will stop. It seems coaches know the officiating is horrendous this year and they are pushing the envelope seeing what they can get away with. Telling me you have to be in the field of play to see the jumbotron is a joke. Where were the other coaches, players or support staff (guy who keeps the headset wire from getting tangled up) when Tomlin took the field? Isnt that a penalty for having 12 men on the field? Lol

  65. Nofoolnodrool says: Dec 2, 2013 11:14 AM

    To be fair, I am a Ravens fan so I know am not objective.

    Bunk you get the award for the most hypocritical post so far…..punish Tomlin, but make sure he is coaching against Cincinnati . And you want to be taken seriously….. Tomlins move was bone headed and should be punished and thank god raven fans don’t make the choice. Still waiting for A Egregious score there Bunky.

  66. citizenstrange says: Dec 2, 2013 11:16 AM

    This type of blatant cheating is something you would expect from the Raiders (e.g. Holy Roller play versus the Chargers in 1978) not the Steelers.

    Tomlin cheated and then lied about cheating. He showed no integrity and no respect for the game. He should be fined $100k AND suspended for one game and a one game paycheck.

    But maybe he can “blow away” the NFL during his appeal interview like he did the Rooneys with his sweet, sweet, gobbledegook, double talk.

  67. Steeler's Didn't-but-Will-eventually says: Dec 2, 2013 11:18 AM

    This will be punished, and there’s nothing that can stop that. Tomlin and the Steelers are at the mercy of the NFL here and will take what they get (pending appeals, if an appeal process exists in this case).

  68. baltimoresnativeson says: Dec 2, 2013 11:21 AM

    Wheres the honor? Cowher never would have done this, and Hines ward never mocked Ray Lewis dance despite there vicious battles. Now we have this clown WR who hasn’t accomplished anything mocking a legend.

    Ravens fans and players hate the Steelers but always respected them. These new clowns (Tomlin / Sanders) are screwing the rivalry up.

  69. crownofthehelmet says: Dec 2, 2013 11:25 AM

    Ravens are just mad their speedster got caught from behind. I say fine Bal’s Special teams coach for putting in a slow mudder.

  70. edgarpoe3 says: Dec 2, 2013 11:25 AM

    While I agree that Tomlin stepped over the line – literally, but why is he the main focus? Why are the refs getting a pass in this? They were right there and made no calls. I believe all the extra blame on Tomlin is to cover-up another ref blunder.

  71. swagger52 says: Dec 2, 2013 11:34 AM

    Love the Analysis which ranges from “nothing” to “blaming Jacoby Jones for not knowing the rules” to “he would have been caught anyway because the Steelers are so fast”.

    What do you expect…these same Analyst Steeler Cheerleaders had them winning the AFC North.

    When will different rules ever stop?

  72. swagger52 says: Dec 2, 2013 11:35 AM

    Forfeit 2014 First round draft pick…

  73. cfeeley52 says: Dec 2, 2013 11:36 AM

    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Dec 2, 2013 10:04 AM
    Raven fans my point is trying to put your biased reaction in its proper perspective and get you to see how hypocritical your judgement of Tomlin and his character…..still waiting for his White Suit a Score.
    ————————————
    Your showing bias by not accepting a decision made by a United States Court of Law 13 years ago. Get over it hypocrite…

  74. bunkmcnulty says: Dec 2, 2013 11:47 AM

    Nofool has outed me. I am a hypocrite.

    Far it be for me to opine a logical opinion and purposely end it with a “homer” comment. Unless I was making a failed attempt at irony or humor.

    Which was it? I’ll never tell. Neither will Tomlin about whether he was purposely obstructing a play.

  75. drs76109 says: Dec 2, 2013 11:50 AM

    How about worrying about really important things, like racism in the locker room & bad officiating calls? This is what makes the NFL look stupid sometimes – focusing on the wrong things.

  76. FinFan68 says: Dec 2, 2013 11:57 AM

    southpaw2k says:
    Dec 2, 2013 11:04 AM
    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Dec 2, 2013 10:56 AM
    Your comparison is absurd, and sounds a little desperate.

    Of course it’s absurd just as much as expecting the use of logic and perspective by a Raven homer. Purple is not the primary color of reality….. Still waiting for Tomlins White Suit Score for Egregious Behaviour…..perspective was first discovered during the renaissance , hopefully it’s reached Baltimore by now, but I am not getting desperate waiting for it to show up.

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    I know you typed everything you just said there in English, but despite reading your post about 5 times I have absolutely no idea what you’re trying to say.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~
    Just like that “Loud or Clear” commercial with the coach in the locker room screaming incoherent stuff.

  77. southpaw2k says: Dec 2, 2013 12:00 PM

    FinFan68 says:
    Dec 2, 2013 11:57 AM
    southpaw2k says:
    Dec 2, 2013 11:04 AM
    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Dec 2, 2013 10:56 AM
    Your comparison is absurd, and sounds a little desperate.

    Of course it’s absurd just as much as expecting the use of logic and perspective by a Raven homer. Purple is not the primary color of reality….. Still waiting for Tomlins White Suit Score for Egregious Behaviour…..perspective was first discovered during the renaissance , hopefully it’s reached Baltimore by now, but I am not getting desperate waiting for it to show up.

    ———————————————–

    I know you typed everything you just said there in English, but despite reading your post about 5 times I have absolutely no idea what you’re trying to say.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~
    Just like that “Loud or Clear” commercial with the coach in the locker room screaming incoherent stuff.

    ————————————————

    Game, set, match. Winner: FinFan68.

  78. cfeeley52 says: Dec 2, 2013 12:09 PM

    drs76109 says:
    Dec 2, 2013 11:50 AM
    How about worrying about really important things, like racism in the locker room & bad officiating calls? This is what makes the NFL look stupid sometimes – focusing on the wrong things.
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    Umm, this was a bad officiating call…

  79. jacktheraven says: Dec 2, 2013 12:27 PM

    The NFL is scared that if something like this happens, and the team that committed the foul, wins the game, all hell will break lose. They need to make sure this doesn’t happen again. Therefore, there will be a hefty fine, but no loss of draft picks or suspension.

  80. nickster31 says: Dec 2, 2013 12:35 PM

    OK, everyone, there is no comparing this to other things that have happened in the past, because nothing like this has ever happened before.

    White suite in Atlanta? Seriously?

    Spygate? The intentional cheating over 5 years, that was the direct result of 3 Super Bowl victories? Comparing this to that? Seriously?

    Bountygate? Paying bounties to injure players?

    I AM a Steelers fan, and believe Tomlin should be punished severely.

    $250k fine for Tomlin with a 1 game suspension. Steelers are fined as a team for $500k.

  81. pskotte says: Dec 2, 2013 12:40 PM

    It is clear that some form of meaningful punishment is obviously in order. A six figure fine is meaningless to someone who makes millions. Losing a draft pick punishes the team instead of the perpetrator so I am against it. I think the NFL should suspend Tomlin for the remainder of the season, just as they did to the Jets coach who did EXACTLY the same thing.

  82. Getoffmylawn! says: Dec 2, 2013 12:42 PM

    I hope they don’t fine them at all. Suspend him for the rest of this season and all of next. Fines are happily paid over a suspension or loss of draft picks. Show these cheaters this will not be tolerated and no favoritism shown to this failing franchise. They will be taking over the “our management sucks” title of the AFC from the Raiders who are now on their way back to relevance.

  83. drs76109 says: Dec 2, 2013 12:51 PM

    Didnt you see? As the player came close to Tomlin, he yelled, “hit me”…

    Man, there was some ice splashin” in the background…

  84. stagpaoa says: Dec 2, 2013 12:52 PM

    The nfl should go back and watch the other kickoff returns. If he did not do the same thing, then you know it was intentional.

  85. thegenoatkinsdiet says: Dec 2, 2013 12:55 PM

    I hereby dub Tomlin’s attempt to interfere with Jones as “Tripgate.”

    I hereby also give everyone the right to bring up Tripgate in every discussion involving the Steelers for the next decade, the same way that they bring up the Spygate scandal whenever they talk about the Patriots.

  86. joerevs300 says: Dec 2, 2013 1:07 PM

    Fine Tomlin and the Steelers, and suspend him for a game.

    The draft pick thing is ridiculous. The officials didn’t even throw a FLAG even though they were instructed before the beginning of the season that coaches need to be behind that line AND they routinely ask the HC who their “back up” guy is (i.e., who is going to keep the HC from being stupid and going where they shouldn’t, h/t to Peter King for that insight).

    Ultimately the Ravens still won the game so it didn’t affect the outcome. Had the Ravens lost (given J.Jones most certainly would have scored a TD vs. the FG they got), THEN I could see a draft pick being stripped.

    He did some stupid, he’ll be punished for doing something stupid. Raven fans better worry about winning 3 of your last 4 games before you start crowing over the possibility the Steelers might lose draft picks. And since you play @ Detroit and @ Cincinnati, with NE sandwiched in there, I wouldn’t be feeling too good about my chances right about now.

  87. opneon says: Dec 2, 2013 1:13 PM

    I’m a Ravens fan who HAD respect for Tomlin for cleaning up Cowher dirty Steelers…until Thursday night.
    That move was ridiculous and worse than any after the whistle cheap shot from Harrison, Palomalu or Ward. Then he smiles that little Hines-type smirk that Sqealers fans loved so much…because they knew he got away with it AGAIN!
    So, whatever they do should be at least as tough as the Jets coach’s penalty – because…
    the Jets coach was BEHIND THE WHITE PATH and tripped a guy running 5 yards out of bounds…
    not ON THE FIELD like Tomlin!

  88. opneon says: Dec 2, 2013 1:16 PM

    Make Todd Haley the Head Coach for the
    2014 Season…
    that would punish them!

  89. akboot says: Dec 2, 2013 1:18 PM

    There isn’t one person on this planet that can convince me this was an accident, NO WAY. Steeler fan or not, nobody could make this mistake. There are times that it has happened, but not like this. Tomlin, you cant bs, a bser. You got caught. Very pathetic, childish move. Sheesh

  90. southpaw2k says: Dec 2, 2013 1:18 PM

    finsguy says:
    Dec 2, 2013 10:19 AM
    He should be forced to coach the Minnesota Vikings for a minimum of 3 years. Now THAT would teach him a lesson and strike fear in other coaches so that something like this would never happen again.

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    Ironically, Tomlin was the Vikings’ defensive coordinator before the Rooneys had hired him as head coach of the Steelers.

  91. whodeybacker says: Dec 2, 2013 1:24 PM

    In this year of poor officiating, I am still amazed the official didnt throw the flag having to navigate threw the sideline. Yea it been discussed on here. Its a trend though and I would like to know WHY? And HOW can it be and every week thing involving multiple games?

  92. steel086 says: Dec 2, 2013 1:29 PM

    I agree Tomlin should be severly punished for his action, while I believe his explanation that it was unintentional and just as he explained “lost his placement while watching the return”. I am a HS football coach and myself and several members of our coaching staff has made the same mistake of getting too involved watching the action and have (a) step on the field or the forbidden box during a play or (b) even worse bumped into the side judge. This got us a flag. Granted there is a higher standard in the NFL but I believe a substantial fine is warranted ($100K minimum) ,but those calling for a suspension and/or lost of draft picks are ridiculous!!! He did not make contact with the player and did not change the outcome of the game. Even Jones said he probaly would have been caught anyway.

  93. cursedvikings1998 says: Dec 2, 2013 1:29 PM

    One thing I learned from this mess: The writers over at Yahoo Sports are complete idiots who are justifying what Tomlin did and lambasting the league for the proposed discipline.

    pro football talk is now my home. Forever. This place has real journalists who actually know what they’re talking about. Yahoo sports is a total joke.

  94. ravensgrl says: Dec 2, 2013 1:30 PM

    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Dec 2, 2013 9:16 AM
    So far most of the posts are from Steeler haters which immediately tells me not to expect logic in the post. Ladies put it in perspective, Tomlins actions were unacceptable whether intentional or not, but it didn’t leave two guys dead in Atlanta or a missing white suit, it wasn’t as premeditated to the degree as the Pats spy gate. So let’s unjerk our knees, put on our fairness glasses/ versus our homer shades, and think about a reasonable precedent setting fine…..not hard to grasp really.

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    There already has been a precedent set… suspension for the rest of the season. A fine means nothing, a 1 – 2 game suspension will hurt a little more.

  95. swagger52 says: Dec 2, 2013 1:32 PM

    To all Steeler fans..

    Ray Lewis was exonerated days after he retired with almost no fanfare. Atlanta admitted that implicating Ray Lewis was a way for the politicians to put heat on Ray Lewis and off the city.

    Nobody ever said Ray killed anybody..Ray was at the scene of the crime and he admittedly tried to obstruct justice – which he has admitted.

    Umm…what did Tomlin admit to? He lost track of his way on the sideline, which happened to alter the outcome of an NFL game.

  96. steel086 says: Dec 2, 2013 1:35 PM

    opneon says:Dec 2, 2013 1:13 PM

    I’m a Ravens fan who HAD respect for Tomlin for cleaning up Cowher dirty Steelers…until Thursday night.
    That move was ridiculous and worse than any after the whistle cheap shot from Harrison, Palomalu or Ward. Then he smiles that little Hines-type smirk that Sqealers fans loved so much…because they knew he got away with it AGAIN!
    So, whatever they do should be at least as tough as the Jets coach’s penalty – because…
    the Jets coach was BEHIND THE WHITE PATH and tripped a guy running 5 yards out of bounds…
    not ON THE FIELD like Tomlin!

    BIG DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT JETS COACH INTENTIONALLY:
    1. ORGANIZED A GROUP OF IR/ STAFF MEMBERS TO SET A WALL PRIOR TO PLAY EVEN STARTED

    2. DIRECTED HIS BLOCKERS ON THE PUNT TEAM TO FORCE THE GUNNERS ON THE OTHER TEAM TOWARD SAID WALL!!!

    DUMB STATEMENTS KEEP ROLLING ON THIS SITE BY SO CALLED REAL FOOTBAL FANS.

  97. starderup says: Dec 2, 2013 1:36 PM

    Whatever he does, his acting is not good enough to make a second career after football.
    That was intentional and very obvious.

  98. comeonnowguys says: Dec 2, 2013 1:37 PM

    And now we’re seeing a clip that shows Tomlin deliberately setting himself up for this “accident.”

    2 games, $50K.

  99. comeonnowguys says: Dec 2, 2013 1:40 PM

    @steel086

    There’s a clip of him taking a step into his “lost placement.” Between that and that grin of his after the play, it seems foolish to assume he didn’t know exactly what he was doing.

  100. aljack88 says: Dec 2, 2013 1:48 PM

    “Lest you forget, Ray Lewis was found guilty of obstruction of justice and served a one year probation sentence. His two co-defendants were found not guilty by reason of self-defense, and they weren’t athletes or celebrities at all. And the victims had histories of drug dealing and weapons charges, so they were hardly upstanding citizens.

    I’m still amazed we’re having this argument nearly 13 years after the fact.”

    southpaw2k – Ray Lewis plead guilty, was not “found” guilty. This was resulted from Lewis’s deal with the the DA to testify on behalf of the DA against his “friends” at their murder trial. His friends were found “not guilty” because the DA did not have enough evidence to get a conviction., which is quite accepted as being the outcome of the DA’s incompetence. If it was ruled the deaths were justified by self defense, then the murder case would have been closed. As of today’s date, the murder case is actually still “open” and is unsolved.

    Ray’s friends cannot be retried for these murders again unless there are substantial facts proving they lied during their trial. Ray is not excluded from this.

  101. jgold8 says: Dec 2, 2013 1:48 PM

    I posted the link to the clip of him taking a step on to the field once Jacoby breaks it up the sideline but it has been taken down. It is on pittsburg cbs local. It will be impossible to explain this one.

  102. besdayz says: Dec 2, 2013 1:49 PM

    Kick him out of the house
    send him into the field.

  103. steel086 says: Dec 2, 2013 1:55 PM

    @comeonnowguys

    I understand that look of embarrassment (the smile/grin) I have that same look when I do something embarrassing, human nature. He is watching the play, then himself on a monitor and seem to make a mistep(if thats a word) to me. You may think i am just being a Steeler homer, but I truly it was a kneejerk reaction watching an image of himself and realizing his was in the wrong place. If the video showed him running or even walking to that spot after the play was ongoing I could buy the “no accident theory”. Alot of people are making him a psychic because he had to know Jones was gong to break that return and break on the Steelers sideline.

  104. steelerofthedraft says: Dec 2, 2013 2:05 PM

    I’m sorry but everyone is making this into something bigger than it is . Tomlin didn’t trip jones or stop him from scoring .
    Jones was caught by Cortez Allen , Allen had the angel on him and was catching him regardless if tomlin was there or not .
    The thing that hurts tomlin was that while he was jumping away his right foot crossed into the field .
    Is what he did stupid ? Yes it was but I can’t blame him , the refs need to do there jobs and monitor the sidelines before a kickoff , if tomlin didn’t do the dumb jump slide no one would be talking about this .
    That being said , fine him 100k and move on, he knows what he did was dumb , you don’t penalize a franchise because of this .
    If tomlin wanted to trip jones I’m sure he would have

  105. jgold8 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:12 PM

    New video on cbssports shows him step onto the field after Jacoby starts up the sideline.

  106. bbk1000 says: Dec 2, 2013 4:14 PM

    Any level headed person knows Tomlin knew what he was doing, however he appears to be one of the darlings of the league.

    The penalties the NFL hands out seem so arbitrary it’s probably a crap-shoot……

  107. johnnydom says: Dec 2, 2013 5:12 PM

    Any way to win the Steelers are a bunch of trash along with their trash coach. He knew where he was throw the book at him,

  108. Joemontanaflacco says: Dec 2, 2013 5:55 PM

    Hahahahaha! Nofool played the “Ray Lewis is a murderer” card AGAIN! Extra points to whomever got him to blow his top! Makes my day! Hahahahaha!

  109. critter69 says: Dec 3, 2013 3:48 AM

    Whatever the penalty on Tomlin, the Steelers, or both, there are two additional things I’d like to see:

    1. The ‘reffing’ needs to be addressed. Nothing for the official ‘having’ to run behind Tomlin?

    2. A warning that if ANY unauthorized stepping into the white ‘officiating area’ by ANYONE will be expelled from involvement in any NFL regular, pre- or post-season game for one year. The white area is reserved to on-field players and officials while play is going on on the field. By NFL rule, that area is to be at least two yards (six feet) wide.

  110. FinFan68 says: Dec 3, 2013 5:11 PM

    Critter69,
    I agree with everything but the one year thing. I would rather see an ejection +1 game (next post season[if win] or regular season[if lose] game if it is during the post season)

    The official that had to run around Tomlin should be fined/suspended for not tossing the flag. The crew chief should be reprimanded as well

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