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Brady and Belichick shrug off “spying” charges

Gary Kubiak, Tom Brady AP

After being accused of “spying” on the Texans, the Patriots responded with a nonchalant shrug.

Which, of course, is how a spy would react.

Actually, Smith’s contention that it was “kind of fishy,” that the Patriots would respond so rapidly in the second half against a 2-10 team (after doing the same thing to a slightly better Broncos team previously) might be the laughable part.

“You know, truthfully, we just played a little bit better in the second half,” Patriots quarterback Tom Brady said during his weekly appearanace on WEEI, via Field Yates of ESPN.com. “We’ve kind of been through a lot of this before. I don’t really think much of it, truthfully. I just kind of have moved on. I’ve already started work on the Cleveland Browns, trying to find a way to play those guys better and get off to a better start.”

After a slow first half, the Patriots came back to score on their first five possessions of the second half. But since they were playing a team that had lost nine straight, it wasn’t so much of a surprise. Brady said there’s a calm about his team in such situations.

“If you have like a bad first drive, you don’t really come over to the sideline and go, ‘All right guys, we’ve gotta change everything, let’s scrap all the crap we’ve been practicing all week and just start making stuff up on the fly,’” he said. “But I think by halftime you have really a good enough sample size to figure out how the game is being played, the things, the matchups that go in our favor, the matchups that don’t go in our favor. Maybe there’s some new things that they’ve done that we’ve got to adjust to, but ultimately, after halftime you get a chance to evaluate and say, ‘Well, how did that half play out?’

“You’ve got to be able to stick with it, stick with what we’re doing, kind of what we did against Denver,” he continued. “Or last week, we said, ‘OK, these are some of the things we’re going to get to and these are the matchups we like and we’ve got to start making the plays that we’re capable of making.’”

As you might expect, Patriots coach Bill Belichick didn’t add much to the conversation, acknowledging that he had noticed Smith’s remarks.

“Yeah, I saw them. I don’t have any comment on them. That’s a league matter,” Belichick said.

The fact the Patriots have scored seven points in their last two first halves is something they’ll want to address, but the fact they’ve scored 61 in their last two seconds probably has more to do with superior coaching and personnel than espionage.

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72 Responses to “Brady and Belichick shrug off “spying” charges”
  1. clarencewhorley says: Dec 2, 2013 11:18 AM

    The Patriots destroyed the Texans and Wade Phillips defense last year. What was surprising is that it took them till the 2nd half to destroy them again.

  2. crownofthehelmet says: Dec 2, 2013 11:18 AM

    Once a cheater, always a cheater. If the Pats were still relevant, I’d say take another pick away.

  3. dstroi says: Dec 2, 2013 11:20 AM

    Let the “spygate” diatribes commense. SMH

  4. Reynolds says: Dec 2, 2013 11:20 AM

    Even if they were taping signals….it’s legal. Always has been. Just not from certain parts of the stadium.

  5. logicalvoicesays says: Dec 2, 2013 11:22 AM

    Here’s how many Superbowls the Patriots have won since Spygate :

  6. lennydpocketqb says: Dec 2, 2013 11:22 AM

    It’s the Texans you guys. I’m all for piling on to the Pats but I’m willing to believe this is bogus.

  7. pastabelly101 says: Dec 2, 2013 11:23 AM

    The best record in the NFL post spygate. Yup, still cheating, Goodell in Krafts back pocket, Brady on the decline, fairies, Easter bunnies and unicorns.

  8. soopreme says: Dec 2, 2013 11:24 AM

    You can never put anything past Belichick.
    The funny thing to me is that the media is so dismissive of the player’s allegation, as if there is no history of this.

  9. footballfan58 says: Dec 2, 2013 11:24 AM

    This “spying” stuff is so lame and old. These complainers just hang on to the same sorry excuse for why their team isn’t as good as the Patriots.

    Want to beat New England? Play better!!

  10. ampats says: Dec 2, 2013 11:24 AM

    If they knew the plays what happened in the first half? I believe we used to call people like Antoine Smith, “sore losers”. What Smith should have said was that his team was outcoached and made adjustments that his team did not which is why they are 2-10.

    For whatever reason this season, the Patriots are slow starters. In years past, it was peddle to meddle for all four quarters. Minitron & Beast Mode had great games yesterday not to mention Ghost’s outstanding leg.

  11. gallopinggilmore says: Dec 2, 2013 11:26 AM

    There are two types of coaches in this league.

    Those that watch film, take notes, gather information and win and those that don’t, don’t and don’t.
    Its why Belichick’s patriots get better in the 2nd half of games, in the later parts of the season and finally in the playoffs. More information=More winning.

    If only Marvin Lewis would take note.

  12. thewiz37 says: Dec 2, 2013 11:27 AM

    Pats players broke into the Texans homecoming dance to steal letterman jackets and overheard players talking about scheme.

  13. The Metal Pigeon says: Dec 2, 2013 11:28 AM

    Just want to say, as die hard Texans fan, that I’m embarassed by Smith’s comments. Dude’s an idiot who regularly nets us 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalties every other game as well as getting himself suspending for making Ritchie Incognito of all people look for a brief moment like a sympathetic figure.

    Maybe this is not a good idea for football strategy, but I really hope he’s off the team next season. Declining on field play + stupid penalties + stupid comments = kick this guy to the curb when the rest of the coaching staff is blown out.

    We played the Patriots tougher than anyone expected, came up short but earned a bit of a respectable nod in the effort, and this dummy just ruined it. Thanks Smith.

  14. sacpete1 says: Dec 2, 2013 11:30 AM

    crownofthehelmet says: Dec 2, 2013 11:18 AM

    Once a cheater, always a cheater. If the Pats were still relevant, I’d say take another pick away.

    Brilliant!!

  15. spoilerfutbol says: Dec 2, 2013 11:32 AM

    All the NFL teams need to spy the great 2-10 Texans for beat them.
    ITS A CONSPIRACY!!!!

  16. Reynolds says: Dec 2, 2013 11:32 AM

    “Here’s how many Superbowls the Patriots have won since Spygate :”

    Same amount of Super Bowls as Peyton Manning since Spygate. He must’ve been spying too right? It can’t possibly be that winning a Super Bowl is really really hard.

  17. weepingjebus says: Dec 2, 2013 11:37 AM

    “logicalvoicesays says:Dec 2, 2013 11:22 AM

    Here’s how many Superbowls the Patriots have won since Spygate :”

    What’s funny is that you always repost this with that weird space before the colon. Even your trolling is on autopilot at this point, sort of like RGIII’s career.

  18. sacpete1 says: Dec 2, 2013 11:38 AM

    “After being accused of “spying” on the Texans, the Patriots responded with a nonchalant shrug.

    Which, of course, is how a spy would react.”

    Or maybe someone who thinks its just ridiculous.
    I mean, how exactly would they have spied? Someone in the meetings in Houston this week reported back to the Patriots and then they also were able to hijack the audio during the game. Also, they wanted to save this inside information until the 2nd half so as not look too suspicious.

    Maybe an 8 year old might believe that.

  19. timtheenchanter1 says: Dec 2, 2013 11:38 AM

    Even if they were taping signals….it’s legal. Always has been. Just not from certain parts of the stadium.
    —————————————
    More specifically, there are only a couple places within the stadium where it IS legal. But yes those places exist.

    However, it’s illegal for those recordings to be accessible to the team at any point during the course of the game.

  20. bigt12789 says: Dec 2, 2013 11:42 AM

    Number of Washington Redskins SuperBowl appearances since the internet became a popular place of communication: 0
    #yourteamissodysfunctionaltheycouldntwineveniftheycheated
    #boyTeddyBridgewaterwouldhavelookedgoodinBurgandyandGoldnextyear

  21. pjflynn84 says: Dec 2, 2013 11:47 AM

    Don’t worry Antonio, Ladainian Tomlinson and Marshall Faulk were thinking the same thing after watching that game.

  22. hairpie2 says: Dec 2, 2013 11:49 AM

    The AFC East, post “Spygate” has a winning % 150 points LOWER vs The Pats within the division. That would indicate the other teams in the division were cheating and had to stop.

  23. patriotsarespygaters says: Dec 2, 2013 11:56 AM

    i hate the pats….but why is the media always trying to look for a story that dumbass smith, who made incongnito look like a saint was obviously joking smiling in that interview….pats are one and done in the playoffs though

  24. melikefootball says: Dec 2, 2013 11:56 AM

    Remember this is the same Pats that were looked at by the announcers against Denver that showed how the pushed the offensive interference calls until they were flagged. The officials did not call this as well as Gödel let Brady get by on the freedom of speech act when on national TV he chased down the officials and berated them with the F bomb. Gödel and the officials have a blind eye when it comes to the darlings of the East.

  25. mattspapi says: Dec 2, 2013 11:57 AM

    Marshall Faulk agrees…. Cheating spying Hoodie… Needs to be fined and a draft pick taken away… Oh wait…Tony Dungy agrees ….well that is a true logicalvoice …just remember Tony is your lead character in the anti-gay rights movement while coaching in Indy.
    Marshall, Tony and Antonio
    #genius

  26. all4patriots says: Dec 2, 2013 12:03 PM

    “The funny thing to me is that the media is so dismissive of the player’s allegation, as if there is no history of this.”

    —-
    Guess what, there REALLY IS no history of this. The Patriots have never taped practices.

    You and many others seem completely unaware of the difference between spygate (in-game signal taping) and the FALSE accusation of taping practices that emerged some 5 months later, was disproven, and then was retracted (after perhaps affecting the outcome of the Super Bowl)

    Somehow all allegations, those real and those imagined, get lumped into one, with a big old “guilty” stamp placed upon it, in the minds of the media and Pats haters everywhere.

    I almost get tired of correcting them. ALMOST.

    Someone has to do it though.

    Spygate happened
    Taping practices DID NOT HAPPEN.

    clear enough?

    The name even stinks too. Spygate did not involve spying. It involved taking a big old camera, standing on the sidelines in plain sight, and filming coaching signals rather than taking note of them (legally) in the press box.

  27. tackledummy1505 says: Dec 2, 2013 12:06 PM

    They said the same thing with their 3 Super Bowl championships as well. Funny how they started off those games slow and then exploded in the 2nd half lol.

  28. pats777 says: Dec 2, 2013 12:06 PM

    Hey logical voice: the Pats have played in 6 (count em 6) Super bowls since your pathetic team was last relevant. Stick that in your bong and smoke it.

  29. Patskrieg dot com says: Dec 2, 2013 12:09 PM

    My favorite part of the Smith accusations is that when he was asked for specific instances of the Patriots making an out of the ordinary adjustment he “miraculously” declines.

    It’s a move he learned at the Marshall Faulk school of not having anything relevant to say but its just nice to be on camera.

  30. sarcasm says: Dec 2, 2013 12:09 PM

    Where there was fire, there is smoke.

    Sounds about right.

  31. fanofevilempire says: Dec 2, 2013 12:12 PM

    3 SUPER BOWL TITLES -***

    YOU ARE WHAT YOUR RECORD SAYS YOU ARE- BILL PARCELLS

  32. fanofevilempire says: Dec 2, 2013 12:14 PM

    all4patriots, get off the steroids, everythiong they said is true, the Patriots are cheaters and they have tainted superbowl titles!

  33. dboy2323 says: Dec 2, 2013 12:16 PM

    If they were such amazing coaches what was the need to cheat in the first place? If you’re willing to do something once there’s no reason to think you wouldn’t try it again. Is there any reason we should give the patriots the benefit of the doubt? Got my book!

  34. azarkhan says: Dec 2, 2013 12:22 PM

    OK Antonio Smith, you’ve had your 15 minutes. Now slither back into obscurity.

  35. zimaman says: Dec 2, 2013 12:23 PM

    I just listened to the entire interview. I don’t like to pass judgement on these things because you didn’t hear it yourself. Was he kidding or was he serious?

    After listening to the entire interview all I can say is you should not smoke crack and then all I yourself to be questioned by the media.

    Smith was out there on the moon or mars possibly

    I suggest you all tune in what a riot

  36. patriotwayspygate says: Dec 2, 2013 12:25 PM

    Before Spygate, Belichick’s Patriots were 10-0 in the playoffs and 3-0 in the Super Bowl. Since the illegal taping scheme was revealed, they are 7-7 in the postseason and 0-2 in the Super Bowl.

    Without the aid of being able to film walkthroughs and illegally taping defensive schemes, they’ve been a very below average postseason ballclub.

    Coincidence? I think not.

  37. doctormantistoboggan says: Dec 2, 2013 12:27 PM

    Brady has been a lukewarm turd in the playoffs since 2004. No one seems to call this fact out. His most recent playoff turdings include HOME losses to the Ravens (twice!) and Jets. AND his two SB losses were massive bed wetting failures by the offense. He is the most overrated big game QB of all time.

  38. 8to80texansblog says: Dec 2, 2013 12:30 PM

    As a Texans fan… I think this is so stupid. Antonio Smith comes off as a crybaby here. In his comment he referenced “teams” as if multiple teams were “spying”.

    Logic tells me that you don’t need to spy to beat a 2-9 team when you’re an 8-3 team…. You’re just better….

    I thought the Texans played well but the second half defense killed us. Belichick slapped Brady at half time and said “Hey… you’re Tom Brady, now act like it” and he carved us up in the second half like leftover turkey.

    We are a bad football team. We have some great players…. but right now we are a very bad football team.

  39. illinininer says: Dec 2, 2013 12:31 PM

    What about Andrew Luck and the Colts? They couldn’t get anything going against or stop anything the Texans were doing in the first half of their game a few weeks ago then turned it around in the second half. Why not accuse them? Hell, let’s launch a full scale investigation into all of the opponents during the Texans TEN GAME LOSING STREAK! Give me a break. Grasping at straws trying to reason why your team can’t win a game. It’s obviously not poor play or poor coaching.

  40. patriotwayspygate says: Dec 2, 2013 12:32 PM

    A kid gets caught copying another kid’s homework, he cheated. That’s a fact. The Patriots were looking at other teams’ homework, and they got caught. They cheated.

  41. yourbassist says: Dec 2, 2013 12:33 PM

    Since Spygate Tom Brady is still 5-5 in the playoffs and has been to 2 Superbowls and 3 AFC Championship games.

    Since Spygate:
    P. Manning: 2-5 (0 rings)
    E. Manning: 8-1 (2 rings, ’07, ’11)
    A. Rodgers: 5-3 (1 ring ’10)
    J. Flacco: 9-4 (1 ring, ’12)
    Drew Brees: 4-2 (1 ring, ’09)
    B. Roethlisberger: 5-3 (1 ring, ’08)

    Ahem @logicalvoice
    It appears that winning Superbowl Rings is actually quite difficult. Look at the the winners since Spygate and I threw Peyton in there for good measure. Brady and Eli are the only ones with multiple appearances.

  42. neatz says: Dec 2, 2013 12:36 PM

    Despite testimonials from Roger Goodell, Dan Rooney, Jimmy Johnson, Matt Walsh, the New England patriots and the retraction from the Boston Herald. But leave it to some fans to think they know more about the game and what went on behind the scenes than people who were actually involved.

  43. patriotwayspygate says: Dec 2, 2013 12:39 PM

    If you know what somebody’s defensive signals and calls are before you line up on the field because you filmed their walkthroughs, and you practice with those signals, that’s cheating. There’s no other way to slice it.

    The Patriots cheated. They got caught. Their accomplishments are tainted.

  44. neatz says: Dec 2, 2013 12:41 PM

    crownofthehelmet says: Dec 2, 2013 11:18 AM

    Once a cheater, always a cheater. If the Pats were still relevant, I’d say take another pick away.

    How is life in the Dreamworld you reside in buddy?

  45. Deb says: Dec 2, 2013 12:43 PM

    Well, I was wondering what happened to Houston this year. Guess all their opponents have been “spying.” Bless their hearts. Were they drinking in the locker room when they came up with this?

  46. azarkhan says: Dec 2, 2013 12:45 PM

    doctormantistoboggan says: Brady has been a lukewarm turd in the playoffs since 2004. No one seems to call this fact out

    Dear turd, the Patriots have been to the Super Bowl twice since 2004 and in the playoffs 7 times. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think a team has to win a few playoff games to get to the Super Bowl.

  47. 3taintedchampionships2biglosses says: Dec 2, 2013 12:51 PM

    Patriot defenders are blue in the face, but this is never going away. The suspicion of cheating will follow the coach and owner forever.

  48. patriotwayspygate says: Dec 2, 2013 12:54 PM

    The Patriots post-season winning percentage during the Spygate-era: about 90%

    The Patriots post-season winning percentage after the Spygate-era: about 50%

    Coincidene?

  49. CKL says: Dec 2, 2013 12:55 PM

    all4patriots says:
    Dec 2, 2013 12:03 PM

    The name even stinks too. Spygate did not involve spying. It involved taking a big old camera, standing on the sidelines in plain sight, and filming coaching signals rather than taking note of them (legally) in the press box.
    _______________________________
    So true,which is why I will always call it cameragate. Spying involves being covert. As you said, the Pats were very out in the open with the camera which is why several HCs prior to the memo simply told them to stop without acting like idiots. Or they waved at the camera like Herm Edwards. Also, how can you “spy” on something that over 60 k people can see right in front of their faces? It’s nonsensical.

    BB ignored a memo about placement of cameras, DESERVED some punishment for it and got it. The fact it got so overblown is the fault of hysterical low information type of people and/or trolls.

    I bet Kubiak isn’t pleased by Smith’s comments. He strikes me as a straight shooter and a good dude.

  50. malab377 says: Dec 2, 2013 12:56 PM

    Can’t wait for Smith talking about how the Jaguars are spying on the Texans next friday.

  51. gridironrat says: Dec 2, 2013 1:06 PM

    8to80texansblog says:
    Dec 2, 2013 12:30 PM
    As a Texans fan… I think this is so stupid. Antonio Smith comes off as a crybaby here. In his comment he referenced “teams” as if multiple teams were “spying”.

    Logic tells me that you don’t need to spy to beat a 2-9 team when you’re an 8-3 team…. You’re just better….

    —————————

    8 to 8 -

    Thank you for being a voice of reason in a sea of stupidity. Pats had their number in the second half… it doesn’t take espionage to make adjustments and execute better. I hope your Texans make a resurgence in 2014.

  52. hairpie2 says: Dec 2, 2013 1:08 PM

    Since Spygate Tom Brady is still 5-5 in the playoffs and has been to 2 Superbowls and 3 AFC Championship games.

    Since Spygate:
    P. Manning: 2-5 (0 rings)
    E. Manning: 8-1 (2 rings, ’07, ’11)
    A. Rodgers: 5-3 (1 ring ’10)
    J. Flacco: 9-4 (1 ring, ’12)
    Drew Brees: 4-2 (1 ring, ’09)
    B. Roethlisberger: 5-3 (1 ring, ’08)
    —————————————————–

    The only reasonable conclusion is that E Manning, A Rodgers, J Flacco, D Brees and B Roethlisberger are cheaters. Hard work and preparation do not go far in that league.

  53. metintodd says: Dec 2, 2013 1:19 PM

    I am so sick and tired of any team that loses to the Patriots trot out the old Spygate excuse. Why can’t you just man up and admit you got beat by a superior QB and coach? Instead you make bogus excuses. I think Smith should be fined and suspended. He is absolutely toxic right now.

    And Newsflash to any players wanting to continue to trot out Spygate excuses in the future: Every team was cheating and videotaping because it was legal. Goodell sent the memo about videotaping to every team in the NFL, not just the Patriots, because every team was doing the exact same thing as the Patriots. Too bad the Pats had to take the hit for the bogus Sypgate scandal.

  54. pastabelly says: Dec 2, 2013 1:22 PM

    Andre Johnson said it better a week ago. The Texans just suck. We learned two things. The Texans suck and Smith is a moron. The only question now is whether they draft Clowney, Manziel, or Bridgewater.

  55. metintodd says: Dec 2, 2013 1:22 PM

    And for people to continually bring up the Patriots record after Spygate. They went 17-0 in 2007 after Sypgate and would have won the Superbowl if not for a fluke, lucky catch by David Tyree. Pats were by far the best team in 2007, cameras or no cameras. I’m sure if the Patriots were videotaping in 2007, David Tyree would never have caught that fluke, lucky catch.

  56. patriotinvasion says: Dec 2, 2013 1:24 PM

    patriotwayspygate says:
    Dec 2, 2013 12:25 PM
    Before Spygate, Belichick’s Patriots were 10-0 in the playoffs and 3-0 in the Super Bowl. Since the illegal taping scheme was revealed, they are 7-7 in the postseason and 0-2 in the Super Bowl.

    Without the aid of being able to film walkthroughs and illegally taping defensive schemes, they’ve been a very below average postseason ballclub.

    Coincidence? I think not.
    _____
    Did Tedy Bruschi, Rodney Harrison, Ty Law, Mike Vrabel, Willie McGinest, and Richard Seymour play in those 14 games since the 10-0 start? Remember them? You know, a gigantic reason why thy won those 3 Super Bowls. Wasn’t all Brady and Belichick.

  57. dstroi says: Dec 2, 2013 1:33 PM

    @patriotwayspygate: Do you go into hibernation until a controversial article about the Patriots ensues and then you suddenly froth at the mouth when “spygate” is mentioned? Seriously? You have so much hate or envy (You pick) towards a team that you go out of your way to have your name as patriotwayspygate then rant about the same nonsense all of the time. Do you ever get tired of the same rhetoric that you spew? You are either lonely or just bored. Sad really.
    *******************************************
    3taintedchampionships2biglosses says:
    Dec 2, 2013 12:51 PM
    Patriot defenders are blue in the face, but this is never going away. The suspicion of cheating will follow the coach and owner forever:

    Here is another one. Clever name by the way. Way to be!! You do realize that it really wasn’t cheating right? You seem to have the same disease as the other troll. But after reading your rant, I think the only suspicion of cheating will just continue to follow YOU and the rest of the Patriot haters because the fans are already over it. Do you and the rest of the Patriot haters believe that every win post “spygate” was earned by cheating? Or does it just kill you guys to actually give credit to a team that goes in every week to execute as a team and win as a team every year since the supposed “spygate”? Be honest please.

  58. psousa1 says: Dec 2, 2013 1:47 PM

    c 2, 2013 11:32 AM

    “Here’s how many Superbowls the Patriots have won since Spygate :”

    Same amount of Super Bowls as Peyton Manning since Spygate. He must’ve been spying too right? It can’t possibly be that winning a Super Bowl is really really hard.

    Actually among the teams that were reputed to be taping after the memo came out were the colts and the jets.

    Jimmy Johnson said it himself. It is impossible to use during the game anyway. It is too quick of a turnaround. You can use it down the road.

  59. patriotwayspygate says: Dec 2, 2013 1:57 PM

    Tom Brady hasn’t won a Super Bowl since Spygate. If they don’t win another Super Bowl with Brady, with Belichick, their three Super Bowls that they did win are going to be tainted. It’s going to be like Barry Bonds. You’re going to look at these three Super Bowls with an asterisk because of Spygate.

  60. jimthebuilder27 says: Dec 2, 2013 1:57 PM

    Or perhaps the Patriots just made adjustments in the second half?

    That’s something that some coaches (like a Gary Kubiak) don’t know a whole lot about.

  61. bullcharger says: Dec 2, 2013 2:26 PM

    patriotwayspygate says:Dec 2, 2013 1:57 PM

    Tom Brady hasn’t won a Super Bowl since Spygate. If they don’t win another Super Bowl with Brady, with Belichick, their three Super Bowls that they did win are going to be tainted. It’s going to be like Barry Bonds. You’re going to look at these three Super Bowls with an asterisk because of Spygate.

    ———————

    Or not.

  62. harrisonhits2 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:33 PM

    Its asshat city on any Patriot article. As usual.

    As far as the Texans are concerned the claim by Smith is beyond laughable.

    Yes, the Pats somehow managed to secretly install a hidden video system in the Texan’s stadium. Right.

    Or maybe it was Bill and his Hoodie Of Invisibility ! That’s it !

    Or maybe, just maybe, its that Wade Phillips has been running the exact same defense for what, 20-30 years ? Just because they installed some plays or alignments that Smith has never seen or have been used this year, doesn’t mean that Belichick and Brady haven’t see those alignments / plays / configurations many times over their careers.

    You really thing a football mind like Belichick won’t recognize something that was used against him 4 or 5 or 10 years ago if it was effective ? And you really thing he wouldn’t have figured out how to counter it in the meantime ?

    Laughable. The Texans even when they were “good” have never been able to handle the pressure of a big game. The Pats beat the crap out of them twice last year with good reasons for doing so.

  63. bullcharger says: Dec 2, 2013 2:38 PM

    soopreme says:Dec 2, 2013 11:24 AM

    You can never put anything past Belichick.
    The funny thing to me is that the media is so dismissive of the player’s allegation, as if there is no history of this.

    —————

    The reason they are so dismissive is because comments like that are idiotic and irresponsible.

    Anyone can claim anything they want publicly. It’s too easy to make something up, but there are consequences. Complaints like that have to be taken to the league. Houston will be fined.

  64. bullcharger says: Dec 2, 2013 2:43 PM

    patriotwayspygate says:Dec 2, 2013 12:32 PM

    A kid gets caught copying another kid’s homework, he cheated. That’s a fact. The Patriots were looking at other teams’ homework, and they got caught. They cheated.

    —————–

    Right… and when the kid get’s caught, and is punished he is forgiven. The Patriots were punished for that and they accepted it.

  65. dualprime says: Dec 2, 2013 3:07 PM

    metintodd says:
    Dec 2, 2013 1:22 PM
    And for people to continually bring up the Patriots record after Spygate. They went 17-0 in 2007 after Sypgate and would have won the Superbowl if not for a fluke, lucky catch by David Tyree. Pats were by far the best team in 2007, cameras or no cameras. I’m sure if the Patriots were videotaping in 2007, David Tyree would never have caught that fluke, lucky catch.
    ================================
    So the Giant’s Tyree’s catch was a fluke? Okay. How about the botched punt (by Welker) last week. Does that make the Pat’s win a fluke? Be logical!

  66. seniorboy says: Dec 2, 2013 3:24 PM

    the pats did in fact spy on the Rams, and everyone on the Rams team stated – they seemed to know our entire offensive scheme. How did that happen? Belichik cheats, and continues to cheat. He was fined 500k for that incident but did not have to make an apologetic statement or a statement of wrongdoing – the immoral character of Belichik is obvious.
    I pray for the Pats to lose each and every game and to be humiliated for their role in rigging or stacking the deck in their favor.
    He did it and he knows he did it and he continues to do it.

  67. ampats says: Dec 2, 2013 3:39 PM

    And here come the Ram fans trying to believe something had to happen on why the “greatest show on turf” got beat in the SB.

    Maybe try that Belichick took Marshall Faulk out of the game and totally outcoached Mike Martz.

    And seniorboy, try to get your facts straight because the 500K fine had NOTHING to do with the Super Bowl in 2001 . It was a result of where the Patriots were taping in the Jets game in 2007 after Goodell warned every team in the NFL on where you were allowed to tape the game.

    The Rams LOST the game, get over it sore loser!

  68. ejudge44 says: Dec 2, 2013 4:20 PM

    Some people call it “spying” some people call it “halftime adjustments”

  69. vaphinfan says: Dec 2, 2013 5:33 PM

    I just want to see Billicheck speak into his headset one time.

  70. sanclementejedi says: Dec 2, 2013 5:39 PM

    It’s called making adjustments at halftime. Good teams make them and bad teams do not.

    More time practicing and studying game film rather than purchasing varsity jackets would probably help out the Texans a lot more than complaining about getting beat… again.

  71. bcgreg says: Dec 2, 2013 6:51 PM

    @ tackledummy

    SB 36: NE scores 2 TDs in the 1st half. 0 TDs in the 2nd.

    SB 38: 14-10 NE at the half. 0 points by either team in the 3rd Qtr. Final score 32-29 NE

    SB 39: 7-7 at the half. 14-14 after 3. Final score 24-21 NE

    Oops. There goes THAT theory.

  72. j0esixpack says: Dec 2, 2013 11:20 PM

    A surprisingly high number of NFL players and an unsurprising high number of Jets fans seem to want to ignore the following:

    1. The allegation that the Patriots taped any team’s practice was false. The local newspaper retracted the story acknowledging they took a statement out of context.

    2. The NFL issued a memo in 2006 stating that signal filming cameras were no longer allowed on the field. In the first game of 2007 the Patriots violated that rule – and people unaware that signal filming is common, freaked out and Goodell over reacted.

    3. There is no “logic” in which the Patriots violation of a 2006 rule change, in 2007 could rationally invalidate Super Bowls in 2001-2004.

    These simple facts are just too much for certain individuals to comprehend or retain – usually due to their extreme jealousy of the Patriots.

    The bottom line – there have been hundreds of players Belichick has coached with the Patriots – many of whom are now with rival teams or even retired, with everything to gain and nothing to lose.

    Not one player has ever come forward to say “Belichick made me cheat” or “I saw cheating”

    Not one.

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