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Chip Kelly has found his franchise quarterback, sort of

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Only days after Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie admitted that the team’s top priority was finding a franchise quarterback, Nick Foles threw for a record-tying seven touchdown passes.

Fast forward 29 days, and coach Chip Kelly is willing to admit that the team has found a franchise quarterback.  Sort of.

Yeah, you hope,” Kelly told 94WIP regarding whether Foles is the quarterback of the future.  “But — and I don’t mean to be coy, I always say this — is that, you can say that whomever it is, is your player of the future and then next week they get hurt.  You know, so, I hope Nick [Foles] is here for a long time.  I’m a big supporter of him, I think he does a fantastic job, but we also know that injuries occur in this game and that’s why I always qualify what I say.  I love the kid and I think he’s playing outstanding.”

Pressed for details at his Monday press conference, Kelly declared, “He’s the starting quarterback for the next 1000 years here.  And if I’m wrong next week, I’m wrong.”

Kelly then characterized the entire arrangement as a week-to-week mission, with the team taking things one game at a time.

Still pressed for a more finite commitment with the reality that Aaron Rodgers is the long-term quarterback in Green Bay, Kelly said, “How’d he do Thursday?”

The fact that Foles is the starter now shows that things can and will change, especially with injury.  Kelly’s decision to split reps between Foles and Mike Vick through the offseason, training camp, and the preseason suggests that Foles will be even better once he has a full year as the unquestioned starter.

Before 2014 becomes relevant, we’ll see whether Foles can continue to pile up touchdowns without interceptions.  A controversial holding call on Cardinals safety Tyrann Mathieu wiped out what would have been a pick by cornerback Patrick Peterson.  As it stands (and as Buddy Ryan would say), all Foles does is throw touchdowns, with 19 in six starts and no interceptions.

More importantly, he’s 5-1 as a starter, the Eagles are 7-5, and Philly and Dallas could be destined to meet in Week 17 on NBC for the third straight NFC East title game.

Of course, Mike Vick could be the quarterback by then.  Or may be even Matt Barkley.

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55 Responses to “Chip Kelly has found his franchise quarterback, sort of”
  1. baddegg says: Dec 2, 2013 1:19 PM

    Vick, maybe.

    Barkley, no.

    Foles is good and he’s young. You’d be foolish to have him lose his job due to injury at this point…

  2. johnnyjagfan says: Dec 2, 2013 1:21 PM

    Digging how this guy puts it back into the media’s face. Takes an example from real life or thin air and almost puts the question back in their lap like a professor. Answers a question with a much better, sometimes hypothetical question. What’s the difference in saying “Foles and I are getting married” and “he’s starting for the next 1000 years”. The hyperbole is awesome. Love the guy in Philly but would love to see the NYC media have to deal with him.

    This guy is a thinker. I bet playing for him is awesome.

  3. firerogergoodell says: Dec 2, 2013 1:24 PM

    The Vikings would, sort of, like to take him off your hands if you don’t appreciate him in Philly.

    Just saying…

  4. richardmswartz says: Dec 2, 2013 1:24 PM

    I like Foles alot and the fact of the matter is there is no way the Eagles would be able to get into a position to draft Mariota or Bridgewater from whatever pick they are going to wind up having. This team still needs too much on defense to move up for any of the lessor quarterbacks so….

    Here he is the 2014 starter for the Philadelphia Eagles : Nick Foles.

    With Foles and Chip Kelly continuing to learn and adjust their offense to the NFL they will continue to improve. With a good off-season focused on defense and a little luck, this team will contend to win the NFC next year.

  5. eagleaniac says: Dec 2, 2013 1:26 PM

    Not very controversial if you watched the play!

  6. richardmswartz says: Dec 2, 2013 1:28 PM

    johnnyjagfan says:
    Dec 2, 2013 1:21 PM
    Love the guy in Philly but would love to see the NYC media have to deal with him.

    _________________________________

    When it comes to sports reporting its basically the same thing.

  7. netrunner2k2 says: Dec 2, 2013 1:30 PM

    I’d be careful about crowning this guy and paying him a ton. The NFL history is loaded with teams who got too excited about a quarterback thanks to a small sample size of him playing great only to be left with a decent(at best) quarterback in the end. People, namely fans and the media, love to crown a guy before he shows the ability to do it long-term, but by then the contract and its up-front money have already been given away.

    Not to say Foles will be that, but I’d just be careful before backing up the truck for him.

  8. flavordave says: Dec 2, 2013 1:31 PM

    Chips 11 headed offensive monster machine tour 2013 has found a superstar. One that is unrattled, stands tall, and makes plays. Its clear to anyone watching this precision machine that the NFC is ours. And there’s simply nothing anyone can do about that

  9. hyzers says: Dec 2, 2013 1:31 PM

    Let’s see how he does with Suh and Fairley breathing down his neck this week!

  10. floratiotime says: Dec 2, 2013 1:31 PM

    The NFC East is such a dumpster fire it’s hard to know if any of those teams are any good. One has to win, but it doesn’t mean they don’t all stink.

  11. myeaglescantwin says: Dec 2, 2013 1:31 PM

    “In Chip We Trust”

    no reason to get all worked up.
    Foles is young, the team is young, the Eagles are rebuilding and challenging for the division championship..

    suddenly the defense looks like they have found their front 7 of the future. take a few of those picks you would dump to move up in the draft and address the secondary.

    i wouldn’t even mind using the first few picks on the OL & WR core..

    Howie “steely eyed” Roseman just needs to keep having great drafts and this squad will be dominant in no time.

  12. beardinals says: Dec 2, 2013 1:32 PM

    Nick Foles running the ball is the NFL equivalent of Charles Barkley’s golf swing.

    But he is making is work.

  13. doctorart2013 says: Dec 2, 2013 1:32 PM

    I can’t believe I’m still hearing these dumb questions about who the Eagles starting QB is…It’s NICK FOLES!!!! Why do they keep asking???? Chip Kelly has to watch what he says concerning Foles’s next contract when the agent comes a knocking on the GM’s door, good problem…EAGLES!!!!!!!

  14. athwartships says: Dec 2, 2013 1:35 PM

    Buy him a good O line and let him rip. It’s not complicated math when you havea guy who can get it done. Keep defenses off him, Voila!

  15. thegreatgabbert says: Dec 2, 2013 1:36 PM

    It’s just Foles Gold, Chip.

  16. doctorrustbelt says: Dec 2, 2013 1:38 PM

    Nick Foles:

    19 td – 0 int – 2 fumbles

    125 QB rating

    $390,000

    - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – -

    “ELITE” joe flacco:

    15 td – 14 int – 7 fumbles

    79 QB rating

    $20,100,000

  17. tvguy22 says: Dec 2, 2013 1:41 PM

    Again with the Buddy Ryan reference. You know that he cut Cris Carter in an attempt to save his life, right?

  18. Youknowimright says: Dec 2, 2013 1:43 PM

    Foles is average at best. I know all the numbers19-0, but if you watch the games problems are in the near future. People are starting to get a book on this kid. Not very athleic and lacks arm strength. Make him move. He is going to crash back down to earth. The biggest difference between this team and last years team is the defense is getting a few more turnovers. The def still gives up lots of yards, just not points due to other teams mistakes and the offense still looks explosive at times and then disappears for long stretches, just like last year. Chip didn’t revolutionize anything. It’s the same team just a little luckier at the end of games. and you know I am always right.

  19. filthymcnasty1 says: Dec 2, 2013 1:43 PM

    The Vikings already have 3 franchise QB’s.

  20. sportnorcal says: Dec 2, 2013 1:43 PM

    Why must we always jump to label someone the next big thing, or the “Franchise” guy?

    Foles is winning, not making mistakes, and looks good. The team seems behind him.

    Just go with it until it no longer works.
    The daily sensationalism in sports wears on me.

  21. bennyb82 says: Dec 2, 2013 1:48 PM

    You can think you have a franchise QB but only time will tell. Last year a lot of people thought Kaepernick was headed to elite territory. He has not been bad this year by any means…but he’s certainly not putting fear in defenses like last year.

  22. bleedgreen says: Dec 2, 2013 1:55 PM

    Youknowimright says:
    Dec 2, 2013 1:43 PM
    Foles is average at best. I know all the numbers19-0, but if you watch the games problems are in the near future. People are starting to get a book on this kid. Not very athleic and lacks arm strength. Make him move. He is going to crash back down to earth. The biggest difference between this team and last years team is the defense is getting a few more turnovers. The def still gives up lots of yards, just not points due to other teams mistakes and the offense still looks explosive at times and then disappears for long stretches, just like last year. Chip didn’t revolutionize anything. It’s the same team just a little luckier at the end of games. and you know I am always right.

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    They’ve had 5 games from last year and 6 games started this year plus another played. How many more do they need before they get enough tape and a book on him? Arizona is a top 5 defense. Oakland was top 10. He beat them both pretty well. People keep moving the goal posts. “Oh just wait till he plays XXX” and then when he wins, its “Oh, well they were crap, wait till he plays XXY” Oakland’s D doesn’t look quite as good now statistically, but that was in part because Foles DESTROYED them. Whether he’s good or even average, having an average QB for $660K a year (his salary in 2015) is an AMAZING steal. He’s slated to get paid $615K next year as well. If the defense improves, you can win with an average to above average QB when you have a top 3 RB, a good O-Line, and a top 10 defense. The Eagles need to get better at safety and CB and they’ll be a top 5 defense. I’m not in a hurry to replace him until he’s consistently bad. Just remember, Peyton Manning as thrown 6 picks in a game. Brady has 6 games in his career with 4 picks. 1 bad game here or there isn’t going to sway opinion, but it will bring the haters, I’m sure.

  23. eatitfanboy says: Dec 2, 2013 1:56 PM

    Youknowimright says:
    Dec 2, 2013 1:43 PM
    Foles is average at best. I know all the numbers19-0, but if you watch the games problems are in the near future. People are starting to get a book on this kid. Not very athleic and lacks arm strength.

    =============

    If you think he’s not athletic, you are either not really watching the games and are basing your opinion on what you read, or are biased against him.

    He has actually done a excellent job avoiding pressure, moving the pocket and running when necessary. There’s a lot more to being athletic than running a 4.2 40.

    You do realize that this “unathletic” Qb of whom you speak was the two time MVP of his high school basketball team and was offered basketball scholarships by Baylor, Georgetown, and Texas, right?

  24. tedesco47 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:00 PM

    Vick is gonna do to Foles the same thing he did to Kevin Kolb, and I can’t wait.
    Here’s to hoping Foles gets injured real soon, so Vick can win my team the division!!

  25. ninersareyesterdaysnews says: Dec 2, 2013 2:00 PM

    Foles > Kaepernick

    Jaws said that Kaep is an all time great, so what does that make Foles?

  26. ryanrockzzz says: Dec 2, 2013 2:03 PM

    I think Foles has the potential to be a very solid QB in the leauge. He hasn’t been turning the ball over, and that’s a huge plus. His accuracy as a passer, and Chip Kelly’s 5 option on each play system have made it a good match.

    Anyone who says “the book” is out on Foles obviously has no idea what they are talking about. Not only did they have 4 games of film last year, but Foles has faced three of the top defensively ranked teams this year (Raiders, Cardinals and Bucs) and has done a good job against all, ironically struggling against the Cowboys. (I believe he had a concussion)

    The Eagles are playing better this year due to forcing more turnovers, having much better field position (thank you Donnie Jones) and they have stayed healthy. You put that with Chip Kelly playing specficially to the strengths of his roster, and that’s why they are 7-5.

    He’ll come back down to earth with the pics, but sometimes you just have to give the guy some credit.

  27. touchdownroddywhite says: Dec 2, 2013 2:10 PM

    And Foles is doing all this without the teams most talented WR… Think about THAT for a minute. Of course you let him start next year and see what he has to offer. This team *should be* dangerous as any in the league next year.

  28. sactogary says: Dec 2, 2013 2:11 PM

    baddegg says: Dec 2, 2013 1:19 PM

    Vick, maybe.

    Barkley, no.

    Foles is good and he’s young. You’d be foolish to have him lose his job due to injury at this point…
    ===============
    Nobody ever lost their job due to injury. They lost their job due to someone else playing better.

  29. mungman69 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:12 PM

    Flacco won a Super Bowl

  30. joeknowsnada says: Dec 2, 2013 2:14 PM

    Youknowimright says:
    Dec 2, 2013 1:43 PM
    Foles is average at best. I know all the numbers19-0, but if you watch the games problems are in the near future. People are starting to get a book on this kid. Not very athleic and lacks arm strength. Make him move. He is going to crash back down to earth. The biggest difference between this team and last years team is the defense is getting a few more turnovers. The def still gives up lots of yards, just not points due to other teams mistakes and the offense still looks explosive at times and then disappears for long stretches, just like last year. Chip didn’t revolutionize anything. It’s the same team just a little luckier at the end of games. and you know I am always right.
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    Big difference – Offense disappears when Chip slows them down, NFL-style, to eat clock. He shouldn’t.

    Bigger difference – whether lucky or not, Foles doesn’t make mistakes. Foles is smarter than you think. “Average” QBs can succeed. Need a team around them. I like that approach better. You build a complete team, you get a Super Bowl. You rely on one area too much (superstar QB), you get zip.

    Notice McNabb – did not have a complete team around him, except with T.O., but he was expected by Reid to do it all. See RGIII in DC, expected to do it all. Cam Newton doing well, right now, but, he is very special, and can fall back to earth at any time.

    Foles throws well on the run, so, if HE is the one moving his feet, in design, he is a-okay. Yeah, anyone can get sacked, even Vick or Newton. Book on Foles is being written, true, BUT, he learns, he adjusts. HE IS COACHABLE. He is “athletic enough.” And he is big enough to absorb some punishment. Six foot six is big enough to see the field. That makes him above average in my book.

  31. ratsfoiledagain says: Dec 2, 2013 2:16 PM

    Is Foles that tall, or is Chip that short?

    Looks like Chip is talking to Foles’ chin.

  32. wydok says: Dec 2, 2013 2:23 PM

    Foles is going to beat Manning’s 20 TD before an interception record. Book it.

  33. wydok says: Dec 2, 2013 2:24 PM

    ‘touchdownroddywhite says:
    Dec 2, 2013 2:10 PM
    And Foles is doing all this without the teams most talented WR… Think about THAT for a minute. Of course you let him start next year and see what he has to offer. This team *should be* dangerous as any in the league next year.’
    ——————————————

    Meh, I dunno. If Maclin is the Eagles most talented WR, they should think about drafting a WR in the first round next year…

  34. briang123 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:29 PM

    Foles has earned an entire offseason as the starter. As long as he doesn’t follow the RGIII offseason plan, shooting commercials and mooching free stuff from his wedding registry, he should be in a good position to step up his game in 2014.

  35. Youknowimright says: Dec 2, 2013 2:37 PM

    If you think he’s not athletic, you are either not really watching the games and are basing your opinion on what you read, or are biased against him.

    He has actually done a excellent job avoiding pressure, moving the pocket and running when necessary. There’s a lot more to being athletic than running a 4.2 40.

    You do realize that this “unathletic” Qb of whom you speak was the two time MVP of his high school basketball team and was offered basketball scholarships by Baylor, Georgetown, and Texas, right?

    ——————————————-
    Big difference – Offense disappears when Chip slows them down, NFL-style, to eat clock. He shouldn’t.

    Bigger difference – whether lucky or not, Foles doesn’t make mistakes. Foles is smarter than you think. “Average” QBs can succeed. Need a team around them. I like that approach better. You build a complete team, you get a Super Bowl. You rely on one area too much (superstar QB), you get zip.

    Notice McNabb – did not have a complete team around him, except with T.O., but he was expected by Reid to do it all. See RGIII in DC, expected to do it all. Cam Newton doing well, right now, but, he is very special, and can fall back to earth at any time.

    Foles throws well on the run, so, if HE is the one moving his feet, in design, he is a-okay. Yeah, anyone can get sacked, even Vick or Newton. Book on Foles is being written, true, BUT, he learns, he adjusts. HE IS COACHABLE. He is “athletic enough.” And he is big enough to absorb some punishment. Six foot six is big enough to see the field. That makes him above average in my book.

    ———————————————
    You guys are funny. He has no athletic ability. That’s great about his b-ball scholarships to baylor. If the eagles play 3 on 3 he wil be dominant. Watch closely. He will be figured out along with this ridiculous read option offense that everyone loves to run.

  36. bleedgreen says: Dec 2, 2013 2:38 PM

    wydok says:
    Dec 2, 2013 2:24 PM

    Meh, I dunno. If Maclin is the Eagles most talented WR, they should think about drafting a WR in the first round next year…

    0 0
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    Maclin was only great until it counted. Then he got the dropsies. Whenever you NEEDED that 13 yard play, he’d either drop it or come up with an 11 yard catch. He’s a good #2, but it seems like as soon as they gave Cooper a chance, he’s running away with the #2 job.

  37. paulz624 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:45 PM

    We’ll know he’s our franchise QB if the Eagles don’t take a QB with their first round pick come draft day.

  38. ravenswhat says: Dec 2, 2013 2:46 PM

    How many times must this be said until people get it through their thick skulls?

    Great pocket passing QBs win the rings, get the money and play 15 years. Read option QBs suffer until they learn to stay in the pocket. Vick’s best year in the NFL was under Reid when Andy made him stay in the pocket.

    Is Foles the guy? He sure looks like it so far.

  39. phillysports1 says: Dec 2, 2013 3:44 PM

    Flacco had a great defense in Baltimore when they won the Super Bowl . Js

  40. mylionsroaring says: Dec 2, 2013 3:58 PM

    The Lions defense will have you second guessing if Foles is the future or not. Don’t get to down on yourself Nick, but the picks are coming this week

  41. seaeagle707 says: Dec 2, 2013 4:04 PM

    Foles does everything that you would ask of a guy with the franchise tag. Maybe its time for Kelly, to step up and make a firm commitment, to the guy who has obviously made a commitment to lead the Eagles on the field.

    Potential competition they may be, but it sure is nice to hear of the Eagles doing good things. I hope they win their division.

  42. narfmoo12 says: Dec 2, 2013 4:14 PM

    mylionsroaring says:Dec 2, 2013 3:58 PM

    The Lions defense will have you second guessing if Foles is the future or not. Don’t get to down on yourself Nick, but the picks are coming this week

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    Detroit is 26th against the pass. Sorry to bring actual facts to the table.

  43. sonopazzo6 says: Dec 2, 2013 4:32 PM

    I went out and bought a FOLES jersey last year after he hit Avant with a game winner against the Bucs……after that he was not so good………I’m real happy to have a FOLES jersey now!………yea, boy!!!

  44. ochospantalones says: Dec 2, 2013 4:33 PM

    netrunner2k2 says:
    Dec 2, 2013 1:30 PM
    I’d be careful about crowning this guy and paying him a ton. The NFL history is loaded with teams who got too excited about a quarterback thanks to a small sample size of him playing great only to be left with a decent(at best) quarterback in the end. People, namely fans and the media, love to crown a guy before he shows the ability to do it long-term, but by then the contract and its up-front money have already been given away.

    Not to say Foles will be that, but I’d just be careful before backing up the truck for him.

    ———————————————–

    I wouldn’t worry too much about this. He was a third round pick, so he makes very little (for an NFL player). Under the newish CBA no one can renegotiate his rookie contract until after his third season in the league. This is Foles’ second season, so there is no possibility of overpaying him until after the 2014 season. By then we’ll know a lot more about whether he is worth a big money extension.

  45. ochospantalones says: Dec 2, 2013 4:35 PM

    seaeagle707 says:
    Dec 2, 2013 4:04 PM
    Foles does everything that you would ask of a guy with the franchise tag. Maybe its time for Kelly, to step up and make a firm commitment, to the guy who has obviously made a commitment to lead the Eagles on the field.

    Potential competition they may be, but it sure is nice to hear of the Eagles doing good things. I hope they win their division.

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    As noted elsewhere, under the current CBA the Eagles cannot renegotiate or extend Foles’ contract until after the 2014 season. So it is not possible to make a “firm commitment” at this time.

  46. newjerseygiants says: Dec 2, 2013 4:44 PM

    I like Foles, he’s a major upgrade from Vick and all around decent guy. In fact, I like him so much, the Eagles should trade him to the Giants for Eli.

  47. raideralex99 says: Dec 2, 2013 4:51 PM

    It’s funny when athletic QBs win a couple of games they are inducted into the HOF and when they lose we hear million excuses BUT a pocket passer QB wins we hear he was lucky.
    LOL … Check the winning SB records … pocket passer win … stats don’t lie.
    Pocket passers have brains … they had read defences.
    Running QBs can’t read defences so they have to run for their lives and when they are caught … bang … they go on the IR … End of story.

  48. gustwo says: Dec 2, 2013 4:58 PM

    Nick Foles is smart, accurate, and more than adequately athletic. I believe what you see with him now is still an unfinished product. He will continue to grow with the mental and physical aspects of the quarterback position. He will eventually have another bad game, there is not a quarterback who has ever played the game who hasn’t, but I believe he will bounce back the same way he did after the Dallas clunker. Foles, Kelly, this offense and defense are all for real, is still in a rebuilding phase, and will only get better with age, experience, and an infusion of talent at some key positions. I’m enjoying the current ride, but it’s the future that is the most exciting prospect.

  49. truths4all says: Dec 2, 2013 5:08 PM

    Kelly doesn’t have to worry as long as the refs keep protecting the Eagles with fake penalty calls on the other team, just as the numerous flags were thrown on phantom fouls called on the Cardinals. To make things more comforting for Kelly, the officials also refused to throw their flags on the Eagles when their players keep holding and grabbing the Cardinal receivers or hitting the ball carrier while he was down and the play dead.

    As long as the NFL wants to protect the Eagles and promote the Cowboys-Eagles rivalry to build up fan interests, Kelly does not have to worry who his franchise QB is.

    It clear to any impartial football fan that the NFL’s officials still have the Arizona Cardinals as one of the League’s bottom dwellers and will they will keep getting bad calls thrown on them in favor of the “Upper Echelon” teams the NFL hierarchy promotes and protects. Its awfully hard to beat another team and the Zebras when they keep throwing their flags for phantom fouls.

  50. eagles92 says: Dec 2, 2013 6:15 PM

    What about when maclin caught that td pass to win the bugs game last year ? Didn’t have the “dropsies” then

  51. eagles92 says: Dec 2, 2013 6:16 PM

    Bucs*

  52. 49erfan44 says: Dec 2, 2013 6:43 PM

    Hopefully, for Eagles fan’s sake, they don’t get “Fitzpatricked”.

  53. carryon1116 says: Dec 2, 2013 7:23 PM

    NFC= Nick Foles Confrence

  54. bluebongzilla says: Dec 2, 2013 7:55 PM

    Who is Nick Foles? Matter of fact, who is Chip Kelly?

    17-3.

  55. bleedeaglegreen says: Dec 2, 2013 8:31 PM

    @tedesco47

    You call yourself an Eagle fan & hope the best QB we have had since 2008 gets hurt so your “hero” Mike Vick can play & intercept or fumble away another playoff game as he did against GB in his only Eagle playoff appearance. Double up on your meds & just get over the fact that Vick is & has always been a career failure when it counts. Thankfully he’s done as our QB!

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