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New angle makes Tomlin’s misstep look less accidental

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Steelers coach Mike Tomlin said after Thursday night’s game against the Ravens that he “lost my placement” when ending up with one foot in the field of play — and also in the path of Ravens kick returner Jacoby Jones.

Perhaps the truth is that Tomlin precisely found his placement.

A new angle of the play, captured by KDKA-TV in Pittsburgh, shows Tomlin doing anything but wandering aimlessly as he stared at the M&T Bank Stadium’s Jumbotron.  With his right leg planted on the edge of the field, Tomlin steps with his left leg not absent-mindedly but deliberately, like someone who is trying to stake out a specific piece of turf.

Or like someone who is executing a “side step right” while asking, “Why did the chicken cross the road?”

Deadspin has expanded the image and slowed it down.

While the video arguably undermines the idea that Tomlin meandered to the edge of the field while trying to take in the return on a giant video screen that could have been seen from any position in the sideline area, it’s doesn’t resolve the issue completely.

Other video could.  The NFL has yet to post the coaches film from the three Thanksgiving games on its Game Rewind service.  The end zone angle could shed more light on what Tomlin was doing just before he ended up standing where he was when Jones approached.

There could be other video, such as the raw, unedited coaching tape, that shows Tomlin’s full movements from the moment the ball was kicked to the instant he flinched toward Jones.  Likewise, the league could ask for video shot by one of the many NBC cameras that were blanketing the playing area.

A complete and comprehensive look at Tomlin’s movements before and during the play could help the NFL decide whether to accept Tomlin’s explanation that he accidentally stepped out of rank, or whether he was merely trying to prevent Jones from completing his act of razzle dazzle.

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  1. doctorrustbelt says: Dec 2, 2013 1:47 PM

    Anything less than suspension for the remainder of the season is a joke.

  2. pooflingingmonkey says: Dec 2, 2013 1:48 PM

    What does this new angle matter? Is there anyone who really believes this was an accident? A sleazy move by a sleazy Coach.

    Fine him six figures, and let’s move on. Goodell isn’t going to take a draft pick.

  3. mayorrobford says: Dec 2, 2013 1:48 PM

    100k for team
    100k for coach
    strip them of their 2nd round pick
    ban him for 1 game

  4. onixtorres says: Dec 2, 2013 1:49 PM

    1 game suspension should be good enough with a hefty fine.

  5. 8man says: Dec 2, 2013 1:50 PM

    Well he did have a bit of a sheepish smile not long after the encroachment.

    Gamemanship?

  6. krabballs says: Dec 2, 2013 1:51 PM

    Tomlin has a history of talking a good game about taking responsibility, but never actually takes it. His job is secure, he can say anything he wants, but he does lie on a regular basis. Why would anyone believe him?

  7. 1rockyracoon says: Dec 2, 2013 1:52 PM

    He cheated and it worked during the game. Unfortunately for him, the different angles and common sense shows that he cheated. He got caught and should be a leader and admit to his choice to interfere with the returner. A 4 game suspension would be ridiculous for a coach with a clean slate, but there should be a severe penalty.

  8. steelerfanjo says: Dec 2, 2013 1:53 PM

    Aldon Smith arrested twice = nothing. Play that didn’t affect game = more that 2 arrests. Yeah nothing wrong with NFL.

  9. lennydpocketqb says: Dec 2, 2013 1:56 PM

    “If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying.” – author unknown

  10. swaggyy says: Dec 2, 2013 1:56 PM

    Give Seattle back their super bowl XL trophy and I’m content with that punishment.

  11. h0c2000 says: Dec 2, 2013 1:57 PM

    First salary cap violations and now trying to cheat on a kickoff return? Call in the NCAA, time for the death penalty, SMU style

  12. whoisrdymlz says: Dec 2, 2013 1:57 PM

    One game suspension IF it cannot be proven he intended to step toward the field of play.

    Suspension for the rest of the season and a 2nd round pick if they can prove intent – and that’s getting off easy.

    Of course, finding that he intended to interfere as a matter of fact is nearly impossible.

  13. doctorrustbelt says: Dec 2, 2013 1:58 PM

    Of course…. expecting the NFL to do anything is (kinda) delusional:

    SEE: Tampa Bay releasing Josh Freeman’s private medical records

  14. thepftpoet says: Dec 2, 2013 1:58 PM

    Taking away draft picks would actually benefit the Steelers… They draft all busts

  15. brucetrimble says: Dec 2, 2013 2:00 PM

    Bush league move. And I thought the steelers were a classy team

  16. harrisonhits2 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:01 PM

    mayorrobford says:

    100k for team
    100k for coach
    strip them of their 2nd round pick
    ban him for 1 game
    _____________

    Geeze I loathe the Steelers but you’re nuts.

    They should fine him the same amount the Jets coach that blatantly tried to trip a kick returner was fined. That’s it.

    No ban, no draft picks, no fine for the team.

  17. weepingjebus says: Dec 2, 2013 2:02 PM

    He obviously did it on purpose. Only reason to watch the Jumbotron was to see how close he was to Jones. He wasn’t even man enough to even get run over, he wanted to know when to jump to safety.

  18. adro49 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:02 PM

    Where is Zapruder when you need him?

  19. dwarftosser says: Dec 2, 2013 2:03 PM

    From this angle it still looks the same to me. It looks like a guy who was watching the screen and wasn’t paying attention to where his feet were.

  20. kevo126 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:03 PM

    if they dont give out a pretty severe punishment, expect this to happen a lot. winning a game is more important than a small fine or late round pick.

  21. steelers88 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:04 PM

    The new angle kind of changes my opinion. I think he did do it on purpose. He steps onto the field right before Jones got where Tomlin was standing. Also if he was looking at the scoreboard wouldn’t he see Jones running up the sideline?

  22. bengalsucker says: Dec 2, 2013 2:05 PM

    I don’t believe ever hearing the Jet’s staffer having a rocky history when he was suspended for the remainder of the season for what he did. What Tomlin did is no different. He interfered with play on the field. Should be the same penalty.

  23. Tyler says: Dec 2, 2013 2:05 PM

    To those of you thinking they should suspend Tomlin and strip the Steelers of draft picks, look at the Saints bounty scandal for some perspective.

    They were fined $500k, Payton suspended, and lost two 2nd-rounders.

    Now compare that to what Tomlin did. I’d say $100k file will be all that comes of it.

  24. Deb says: Dec 2, 2013 2:06 PM

    One question for anyone who cares to answer: Is he allowed to be in the white area? He’s only about two to three inches onto the field.

    Having said that, I think Mike’s behavior in this thing has been idiotic and don’t care if they fine him half a million and suspend him for the rest of the year. But don’t mess with our draft picks. He didn’t trip anyone. This was one boob’s bad behavior, not a team conspiracy. No one was hurt and the outcome of the game wasn’t affected. Let the punishment rest with the individual responsible.

  25. jamaltimore says: Dec 2, 2013 2:09 PM

    He definitely did it on purpose and then laughed about it front of the entire stadium and tv audience. As one of 32 head NFL coaches in the world he has a commitment to the rules, BTW, he’s on the rules committee. This was a BLATANT violation of the rules and he should be suspended and/or fired for CHEATING.

    Wish Jacoby would have just run him over which is what he deserved by TAMPERING with the outcome of an NFL game. Even if he did it by accident it still warrants suspension because then he’s just plain STUPID and should be holding one of those coveted 32 HC jobs.

  26. nolahxc says: Dec 2, 2013 2:09 PM

    I believe it was an honest mistake. He should definitely be fined, but I think a suspension/loss-of-draft pick is kinda ridiculous.

  27. beavertonsteve says: Dec 2, 2013 2:10 PM

    Seriously, anything less than a game suspension and a low draft pick would make stepping on the field to stop a TD return look like a viable option in the future.

    Another way to look at it. What coach wouldn’t pay $100k if a playoff birth was on the line?

  28. steelersaregodsteam says: Dec 2, 2013 2:10 PM

    This is just another example of the League’s crusade against the Steelers. We will overcome. We always overcome.

  29. ratsfoiledagain says: Dec 2, 2013 2:12 PM

    Well, if you can’t beat ‘em, trip ‘em! I guess it’s the Stealer way now…

    Suspend him the rest of the season. Pay 250K fine. Loss of 1st round pick in 2014.

    Tomlin has no standing when the subject of player safety arises.

  30. edgarpoe3 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:13 PM

    Again – there are two refs on the scene and NO FLAGS. Why put all the blame on Tomlin? Do I believe he deliberately tried to slow down Jones? Of course I do. But, what should the refs have done in this situation? And what did they actually do. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

    Shouldn’t there be talk about the refs receiving fines and/or suspensions? Tomlin’s actions weren’t the only thing that went wrong on that play.

  31. 1964bclions says: Dec 2, 2013 2:14 PM

    Our neighbor’s dog wears a electric collar that zaps him every time he nears the fence-line. This is also known as an invisible fence.

    The NFL can get one for Tomlin at any Petsmart location.

  32. peytonsneck18 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:14 PM

    He’s the Jason Kidd of the nfl

  33. edgarpoe3 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:15 PM

    What videos were the refs watching on Wednesday? Did they forget the rules a day after seeing the “Stay OFF the White Lines/Field” videos?

  34. jonsilver1947 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:17 PM

    Deb:

    He NOT allowed in the white.

  35. dolfan13 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:18 PM

    Normally, I don’t like when the “OUTRAGE CROWD” gets all hysterical about this type of action.

    …and I was even going to make a joke about a ONE game suspension sounds about right to me (you know since the stillers play the ‘phins next week).

    BUT after seeing this angle and his purposeful side step towards the field of play and previous angles showing him standing there trying to see over his shoulder without turning his head (watch his eyes) to get out of the way at the very very last split second, I am now going to say that his punishment should be severe. I hate to say it, but maybe even “Sal Alosi” type of punishment. The intent is less obvious, but that is only because of a better job covering it up.

  36. ninersareyesterdaysnews says: Dec 2, 2013 2:18 PM

    Fine him and let’s move on.

  37. steelersaregodsteam says: Dec 2, 2013 2:19 PM

    This is just another example of the League’s crusade against us. We will overcome. We always overcome.

  38. afcdomination says: Dec 2, 2013 2:20 PM

    steeler fans, I appreciate how hard you fight for your coach, but he was in the wrong here. it is pretty darn easy to see. we cannot, I repeat, CANNOT afford this type of stuff. NFL is already on the PC chopping block, this is like that episode of FNL, except he didn’t tackle the kid.

    you just don’t do that, you don’t step on the field. PERIOD. it was very very obvious what h was doing, and unless they suspend him, why wouldn’t you do this in a key playoff game and just test the ref. likely the ref won’t give a TD.. sounds worth it to me. guess the coach is the new 12th

  39. harrisonhits2 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:20 PM

    Deb says:

    One question for anyone who cares to answer: Is he allowed to be in the white area? He’s only about two to three inches onto the field.
    _____________________________

    hi Deb,

    No, coaches, players and team staff are not allowed in either the white area or on the field while a play is underway. The white area is really considered to be part of the field.

  40. steelersaregodsteam says: Dec 2, 2013 2:21 PM

    People will always hate the Steelers because we are God’s will.

  41. hakunamangata says: Dec 2, 2013 2:21 PM

    So does Tomlin’s awareness go up or down on the next madden roster update? I know his tackling sure did.

  42. afcdomination says: Dec 2, 2013 2:21 PM

    just because the refs didn’t throw a flag, doesn’t mean it didn’t deserve one, or doesn’t earn serious discipline. anything less says you can do this whenever the heck you really need it. division games, playoff games. why not? you save a TD, for a small fine? please.

  43. barbeaux says: Dec 2, 2013 2:25 PM

    He should be suspended the rest of the season on the grounds of being so stupid that he’d think nobody would notice. How many cameras are at any given nfl game? Hundreds?

  44. abqpacker says: Dec 2, 2013 2:27 PM

    It sure looks like he is looking over his shoulder toward Jones – like he knew exactly what he was doing!

  45. ped013 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:27 PM

    It doesn’t look accidental to me. If I were investigating this and trying to determine his intent, I would look for other videos from this and other games to see where he typically stands during kickoffs, and if he usually looks at the Jumbotron, like he claims. I would then use this additional evidence to determine if this is something he normally does, and that he “lost his placement”, or if it appears that he did this with the intention of impeding Jacoby’s return.

    Without intent: $100K fine to Tomlin. No fine for the team.
    With intent: $100K fine to Tomlin and the team plus a four game suspension, removal from the Competition Committee, and with continued employment as head coach at the discretion of the Steelers.

    I don’t think the Steelers should be penalized a draft pick.

  46. pillowporkers says: Dec 2, 2013 2:28 PM

    People are freaking out, and I’m not a Steelers fan. Dirty move that deserves a consequence? Sure. Draft picks? Absolutely not. This play didn’t affect the game. People are dumb if they think Jacoby scores on that play. Baltimore won anyways.

  47. steelers88 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:29 PM

    I would suspend Tomlin for 1 or 2 games and then I would also fine him,

  48. scoobies05 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:29 PM

    so everyone wants to argue over tomlin’s intent. truth is no one knows the answer to that but tomlin. but intent is irrelevant. every player could argue i didnt mean it for every penalty. now it doesnt matter if he was was two invhes over the line or in the middle of the field…he was where he shouldnt have been and got caught. it was also a national tv game which really shouldnt matter but does to the nfl. i think tomlin should be fined. i dont believe he should be suspended nor do i believe the steelers should lose draft picks. but the nfl will want to use this a deterent to others and will probably go overboard to “teach a lesson”.

  49. mizzousooner says: Dec 2, 2013 2:30 PM

    Punishing them with a monetary fine does nothing. Suspending Tomlin accomplishes nothing also because their season is already lost, kaput!

    No, the only thing that will get their attention is the loss of draft picks.

  50. beardinals says: Dec 2, 2013 2:30 PM

    Fire everyone! Ban everyone! Maybe do a Bane on the city.

  51. athwartships says: Dec 2, 2013 2:31 PM

    Great, now I want to watch Stripes tonight.

  52. mizzousooner says: Dec 2, 2013 2:33 PM

    .
    afcdomination says: Dec 2, 2013 2:21 PM

    “just because the refs didn’t throw a flag, doesn’t mean it didn’t deserve one, or doesn’t earn serious discipline. anything less says you can do this whenever the heck you really need it. division games, playoff games. why not? you save a TD, for a small fine? please.”

    _______________________________________

    Thats another thing that makes no sense, why no flag?

    The ref had to run around Tomlin to continue following the play!

    One thing is for sure, the officiating is not on the rise in the NFL.

  53. baltimoresnativeson says: Dec 2, 2013 2:33 PM

    Flacco said “Tomlin stole my move”

    For all you Flacco haters, he really had a chance to stick it to Tomlin in that press conference but kept it light hearted.

  54. denverwally says: Dec 2, 2013 2:33 PM

    Just another example of a Pittsburgh cheater. They have a history of this kind of crap, its about time they paid dearly for it.

  55. dallascowboysdishingthereal says: Dec 2, 2013 2:33 PM

    There isn’t a doubt that he was trying to influence the ball carrier back into the field of play toward the defenders.

    Punishment should be more severe for not telling the truth!

  56. fissels says: Dec 2, 2013 2:37 PM

    I’m surprised by Tomlin’s actions. He always seemed to be a class act.

  57. mclovin07 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:39 PM

    5 years from now, I wonder how many of us WON’T watch the NFL anymore?? I’m guessing, 30-40% easy…Goodell is the devil…

  58. ravenswhat says: Dec 2, 2013 2:39 PM

    Most of the TRUE Steelers fans I know are agreeing that Tomlin cheated and should be punished severely.

    There is no place for this in the game, period.

    No punishment is too harsh if you respect the integrity of the game.

    Your move Rooney’s. Let’s see evidence of all that class your city is always crowing about.

  59. bnwpnw says: Dec 2, 2013 2:40 PM

    This is the same team with the two-time (alleged) rapist QB, right?

  60. NotoriousKDV says: Dec 2, 2013 2:41 PM

    This was the kind of move that I would expect a clown coach like Rex Ryan to make, not someone who I thought was a classy guy like Tomlin would make. Makes me wonder if Tomlin is just a complete phony.

  61. ravenswhat says: Dec 2, 2013 2:41 PM

    pillowporkers says:
    Dec 2, 2013 2:28 PM
    People are freaking out, and I’m not a Steelers fan. Dirty move that deserves a consequence? Sure. Draft picks? Absolutely not. This play didn’t affect the game. People are dumb if they think Jacoby scores on that play. Baltimore won anyways.

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    How did it not affect the game? They got 3 pts there instead of 7. Sure, the a Ravens won but Tomlin KNEW 7 ices the game at that point. The attempt and intent to alter the game was there.

  62. thinredline69 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:43 PM

    The good news is that if you go to the ESPN playoff machine, and select “Home Team” from the drop-down menu, Behold: Your 2013 NFL Seedings are set…Who’s that at Number 6 in the AFC?

  63. brownsguy44138 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:44 PM

    I really am trying to look at this objectively, despite my screen name. I don’t think there can be any doubt that this was intentional at this point. The clear step to his right, the looking behind him without obviously turning his head, etc…

    At what point does a punishment for this act become a deterrent for future coaches vs. it becoming “worth it” to win a playoff game or an important game in the regular season? I say a $100K fine is “worth it” for a future coach to do something similar. Even a $250K fine is worth it to a NFL head coach making, on average, $4 million per season if it means a spot in the Super Bowl or a Super Bowl win. After incentives of reaching those milestones or the upcoming raise the next season, why wouldn’t you?

    To me, the NFL needs to lay the hammer down on this to set a valid deterrent. A hefty fine plus at least a one game suspension is the minimum here.

  64. mancave001 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:44 PM

    As an Eagles fan, I’m surprised at all the comments like “anything less than suspension is a joke” and “Tomlin is a sleazy coach.” I really am. I can’t stand most Steelers fans and don’t care for the franchise much, but I respect Tomlin. I also see nothing in any video that shows it was intentional. If anything, he looked absolutely surprised when he jumped out of the way. It clearly shows him watching the jumbotron just as he said, and clearly shows a very quick move to get out of the way. I take him at his word.

    He should be fined for going into the stripe, and that’s all.

  65. ravensfan8780 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:45 PM

    Too bad they weren’t playing the Patriots they would have had clear video of the Steelers sideline

  66. bigbenownsthenfl says: Dec 2, 2013 2:45 PM

    hahaha I love the hate! if you aint got hate then you aint that great! and we all see the steelers are great! great move by tomlin. the only thing that woulda been better is winning the game… the outrage woulda been 10 times worse, woulda made it so much more hilarious!

  67. sbchampsagain says: Dec 2, 2013 2:48 PM

    HarrisonHits,
    They should fine him the same amount the Jets coach that blatantly tried to trip a kick returner was fined. That’s it.

    No ban, no draft picks, no fine for the team.

    ___________________

    The Jets coach was suspended for the remaider of the season. It happened sometime in December. He was also docked $25K and fired.

  68. opneon says: Dec 2, 2013 2:48 PM

    Give Jacoby the TD so Ravens win by more than the usual <3 points.
    Then make them use Todd Haley as coach!

  69. sb44champs says: Dec 2, 2013 2:49 PM

    Stay classy Tomlin..

  70. steelcurtainn says: Dec 2, 2013 2:49 PM

    So what, Mike T wasn’t wandering aimlessly up until he looked at the jumbotron and realized how close to the field he was. Big deal, He should get a fine regardless, pay it and move on. Tomlin and the Steelers have bigger things to look forward to like rolling the dolphins.

  71. metintodd says: Dec 2, 2013 2:53 PM

    Jesus, even the Patriots never sank this low. Using the bogus Spygate as a precedent, I’d fine the Steelers a million dollars and take away their 1st round draft pick.

  72. bullcharger says: Dec 2, 2013 2:55 PM

    I don’t think intent should matter at all in terms of punishment for this one. Tomlin was standing where he wasn’t supposed to be and he impeded the play. He should have known better. Punish him accordingly. That will certainly prevent anyone else from having any bright ideas going forward.

  73. Deb says: Dec 2, 2013 2:56 PM

    Thanks to those who answered my question about the white area. I’d love to be able to defend Tomlin here, and suppose it’s possible he was so engrossed in the play that he lost all awareness of where he was. But when you’re completely alone with no other team personnel in sight, it does seem you’d realize you’re in the wrong place.

    Frankly, I’m extremely angry with Tomlin right now and don’t much care what happens to him–as long as it doesn’t impact our draft picks. He didn’t line up other coaches or plan this in advance. It would be different if the Ravens had lost, but he didn’t affect the game’s outcome. This was all him. Let him take the hit.

    As for the officials … yes, they should have thrown a flag. But these dimwits have blown calls in so many games the last couple of weeks I’ve lost count. They aren’t favoring the Steelers. They simply don’t know the rules of the game. It’s unreal that a sport raking in this much money would hire part-time, poorly trained Elmer Fudds as refs. Until he addresses officiating, Goodell’s precious “shield” has no integrity to uphold.

  74. dstroi says: Dec 2, 2013 2:57 PM

    steelersaregodsteam says:
    Dec 2, 2013 2:10 PM
    This is just another example of the League’s crusade against the Steelers. We will overcome. We always overcome.
    *******************************************
    Legit question for you? Do the Steelers do anything wrong in your mind? Anything? One more time…Anything?

  75. cincinasty87 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:58 PM

    Bush league move by a Bush league team

  76. tjules21 says: Dec 2, 2013 2:59 PM

    $75k fine and a 1 game suspension.

    Let’s move on.

  77. jr4real says: Dec 2, 2013 3:03 PM

    You really think someone who hired Haley us sharp enough to do this???

  78. bullcharger says: Dec 2, 2013 3:05 PM

    thinredline69 says:Dec 2, 2013 2:43 PM

    The good news is that if you go to the ESPN playoff machine, and select “Home Team” from the drop-down menu, Behold: Your 2013 NFL Seedings are set…Who’s that at Number 6 in the AFC?

    —————-

    It’s not a fortune teller. It’s just saying if all the teams in contention only win their home games the Steelers will be 6th seed. The Steelers are 3-2 at home… what makes you think they can win their next two home games against the Dolphins and Bengals.

  79. Deb says: Dec 2, 2013 3:05 PM

    dstroi says:

    steelersaregodsteam says:
    This is just another example of the League’s crusade against the Steelers. We will overcome. We always overcome.
    *******************************************
    Legit question for you? Do the Steelers do anything wrong in your mind? Anything? One more time…Anything?
    ————————————————
    Real Pittsburgh fan here. I’d bet the farm that guy is no Steelers fan and would gladly start a collection to have him shipped off to the nearest loony bin … as long as it doesn’t have Internet service.

  80. crubenst says: Dec 2, 2013 3:05 PM

    2 things about the footage:

    1. He’s the only one facing that direction

    2. His feet and legs are tight together as if to hold a position and brace for something. Everyone else is in a more natural legs slightly apart position.

  81. ahp1016 says: Dec 2, 2013 3:07 PM

    Tomlin said “I always watch the return on the JumboTron. It provides better perspective for me.”

    Has anybody pulled up film of other kickoffs to see if he is indeed watching the Jumbotron on all of them?

  82. rodneyharrisonstruckstick says: Dec 2, 2013 3:07 PM

    This is some of the most overblown garbage Ive seen in a while. This to me seems to be perpetuated by Steeler haters whining. Obviously Ravens fans mostly. Bungle – brown fans maybe. A Flag is reasonable but complaining about anything more than that is lunacy.

    Bottom line, The NFL and its owners have to stop being such cheapskates!! and employ/pay the refs as full time workers. Maybe they could fine tune their craft a bit more and be ready for every situation if they didn’t have to spend mon-fri checking inventory at their hardware store or sitting in their legal offices.. etc.

    Twice this year the Pats got burned, the Redskins just last night on SNF. And many more I cant think of, just in this year alone. Garbage.

  83. daveon1y says: Dec 2, 2013 3:09 PM

    2 things:

    1) i’m in the minority but i don’t really feel like he did it on purpose

    2) intent doesn’t matter, rules were broken and he should be fined and/or suspended a game.

  84. crownofthehelmet says: Dec 2, 2013 3:10 PM

    You really want to punish Tomlin – make Pit and Bal swap QB’s.

  85. patpatriot7 says: Dec 2, 2013 3:10 PM

    Same officiating crew that didn’t call a penalty on Kuechtly when he was all over Gronkowski in the end zone on the final play of the Patriots – Panthers game!!!!!

    Isn’t Tomlin a member of the competition committee?

    Has anyone viewed Tomlin in similar situations in previous games? Can anyone document that he has done this before?

  86. bullcharger says: Dec 2, 2013 3:10 PM

    denverwally says:Dec 2, 2013 2:33 PM

    Just another example of a Pittsburgh cheater. They have a history of this kind of crap, its about time they paid dearly for it.

    —————-

    How can you be such a hater of such a storied franchise. They have no history of this kind of stuff actually. Tomlin has also been nothing but class since coming into the league. He made a mistake (intentional or not) and he needs to be punished for it. That’s it. It tarnishes his reputation a bit for sure, but it doesn’t take away from anything the franchise has done in the last 40 years.

  87. Steeler's Didn't-but-Will-eventually says: Dec 2, 2013 3:14 PM

    Loving the outrage here, and I’m gonna love it even more once the punishment is handed down and it won’t be severe enough for 99 percent of you. The crying will be epic. Truly amazing, all of this butthurt over a 5-7 “old, slow” team :).

  88. jimiinpa says: Dec 2, 2013 3:15 PM

    At least N.E. won when they cheated… the steelers can’t even do that right. Enjoy the bottom dwelling status for the rest of the season.

  89. thegenoatkinsdiet says: Dec 2, 2013 3:16 PM

    steelersaregodsteam says:
    Dec 2, 2013 2:10 PM
    This is just another example of the League’s crusade against the Steelers.

    This is the funniest–and craziest–thing I have read in quite a while. Please let me know if you are running short on tin foil.

    I have one question for Tomlin: why would it better to watch the play on the jumbotron when it is happening right in front of you?

  90. mostlombardisintheleague says: Dec 2, 2013 3:16 PM

    The closing speed and angle of the Steelers back that made the tackle would have made the tackle irregardless of what Tomlin did. But Tomlin was still wrong. After all these years of coaching in the NFL how does a guy not remember (or care ?) about all of the latest video technology that’s on each and every play ? Suspend him for the rest of the season, it won’t matter, there are so many players on the injury report Tomlin probably doesn’t know half the names of the starters this week. Oh, one more thing – FIRE TODD HALEY !!! Ben should have been torching the suspect Ravens secondary all game and running the no huddle.

  91. ravenmomma says: Dec 2, 2013 3:17 PM

    It’s a new dance craze…the Tomlin shuffle…you bring your left leg in, you put your right foot out, you bring your right foot in and you try to take him out….

  92. wehrmactblitz says: Dec 2, 2013 3:17 PM

    hes done in any case… hes done all he can do w/cohwers team… tomlin hasnt improved it at all its only got old and slower…

  93. kingkornkahn says: Dec 2, 2013 3:20 PM

    If Harbaugh did this the Steeler fans would be the first to cry foul(they cry about everything). Whatever the penalty is, I hope that it is enough to discourage this bush league nonsense. Then again the officials can’t even keep their story straight on what down it is, so i’m not hopeful.

  94. dilligas61 says: Dec 2, 2013 3:21 PM

    Ok,
    Opinions are like a poop shoot. Everyone has one. In this case, yes Mike in this case was takin a Sunday stroll on the sideline/field of play. He looked at the jumbo in his rear view mirror and stumbled with a foot placement. To say this should cost a draft pick…freakin insane. Lets do this. I agree the man and or team should be fined..yes. ok lets consider this. The Officiating crew of Moe, Larry n Curly missed it. So how about we fine them all the same amount and ban them from officiating another NFL game for a year. This year refs are wayyyyyy worse than the replacement ones were. Jus sayin…HTTR for life n Steelmen are ma No. 2 team.

  95. sixlombardisinyourface says: Dec 2, 2013 3:22 PM

    Just wondering if the Ravens expected more than a single touchdown from their $120 million quarterback ? Or another way to say it did the Ravens expect their kicker to score more than double the points than their $120 million quarterback did ?

  96. besdayz says: Dec 2, 2013 3:22 PM

    Integrity of game?

    If they really cared he would be suspended at least for rest of the season, fined severely, and the team would lose a draft pick.

    Pete Carroll should also be investigated for the drug culture he runs in Seattle. 7 PED/drug positive tests since 2010 and they all of a sudden have a great defense? Something smells rotten.

  97. pillowporkers says: Dec 2, 2013 3:26 PM

    ravenswhat:

    How did it not affect the game? They got 3 pts there instead of 7. Sure, the a Ravens won but Tomlin KNEW 7 ices the game at that point. The attempt and intent to alter the game was there.

    —————————————————–

    Because Jacoby doesn’t score! How do people not understand elementary geometry and angle of pursuit? It’s honestly embarrassing the amount of people who think he would’ve scored.

  98. mattjay0101 says: Dec 2, 2013 3:32 PM

    Dirtbag coach…..and QB.

  99. billytodd2013blbaad says: Dec 2, 2013 3:35 PM

    Life long Steelers Fan but I’ve not been a fan of this guy as coach from the beginning. He took over a team that was a season removed from winning a superbowl and won his with cowhers players, most of Tomlins personel moves and decisions have been horrible not to mention he is constantly out coached during games, and I know my Steelers are known for stability at the coaching position but it’s time for a change. Atleast a 100k fine and the loss of either a 5th or 6th round draft pick for this ameaturish (sp?) action!

  100. Youknowimright says: Dec 2, 2013 3:37 PM

    Relax, Francis.

    It will all be ok. Everyone breathe. He was too close to the field. Don’t be ridiculous with the losing draft picks and fines. relax.

  101. big64d says: Dec 2, 2013 3:38 PM

    I’ve heard that Roger Goodell decided to fine Ndamukong Suh for this and hopefully Tomlin will learn his lesson. If not he may suspend Ndamukong.

  102. crownofthehelmet says: Dec 2, 2013 3:40 PM

    Tomlin was trying to do Jacoby a favor by taking him out of the game. WR’s shouldn’t be forced to play in that atrocious offense.

  103. bunkmcnulty says: Dec 2, 2013 3:41 PM

    Hey Deb,

    I tried to reply the other day. One time we disagree, I did not think Jimmy Smith’s hot was illegal. But who knows what’s legal and what’s not anymore, surely not the refs.

    I think the fines alone are worthless. And I have never thought this was a draft pick offense.

    Suspend Tomlin. Fine him and the team. I think that makes sense. The fines alone are simply worthless, IMHO. $100k each and Tomlin 1 to 2 games.

  104. seatownballers says: Dec 2, 2013 3:42 PM

    200k Fine for tomlin
    6th round pick for team

    Doubt this would ever happen again after that punishment

  105. clemenza58 says: Dec 2, 2013 3:43 PM

    Leave it to the media to turn this into Spygate or Bounty Gate.

  106. wjarvis says: Dec 2, 2013 3:44 PM

    Since apparently the jumbotron has a better view than watching directly on the sideline, I’d be happy to take those crappy first row seats from anybody that was duped into buying them.

  107. steelersaregodsteam says: Dec 2, 2013 3:51 PM

    dstroi says: Dec 2, 2013 2:57 PM

    Legit question for you? Do the Steelers do anything wrong in your mind? Anything? One more time…Anything?
    ____________________________

    Let me ask you: can a perfect being have flaws? No. It is the corruption of people around the perfect being that taints it.

  108. seaeagle707 says: Dec 2, 2013 3:53 PM

    Since when does a HC, take his eyes away from the field, during a play? Jumbotron be danged, the play is right there, in front of him, or it would be if Tomlin, hadn’t turned his back to it, and THAT is what is most suspicious of all. If that had been Cowher, he would’ve been facing the play, ready to breathe fire on the kick returner.

  109. kingkornkahn says: Dec 2, 2013 3:53 PM

    Because Jacoby doesn’t score! How do people not understand elementary geometry and angle of pursuit? It’s honestly embarrassing the amount of people who think he would’ve scored.
    ———————————————–

    It’s pretty clear that Tomlin is one of those people that thought he would score.

  110. steelcurtainn says: Dec 2, 2013 3:54 PM

    Tomlin deserves to get fined and probably will. Thats all he should get. It still doesn’t take away from the fact that the ravens will fold and the steelers will make the playoffs.

  111. dpdonny says: Dec 2, 2013 4:01 PM

    That angle did nothing to change my mind. The smirk says it all.

    Hey, he’s got to do something during the game. Have you ever seen him take notes, look at a play sheet, or even talk into his headset? Yeah. Me neither.

  112. tillihawk says: Dec 2, 2013 4:01 PM

    Was Tomlin the reason Jones was throwing up blood on the sidelines? This is all stupid… if draftpicks are taken from this team, Goddell officially things he’s God..

  113. patsfan1820 says: Dec 2, 2013 4:04 PM

    I hate to say it but why was Rex Ryan flagged for being on the white line by a little bit but Tomlin almost trips Jones and no flags. He’s got no prior history so do a 200000 dollar fine and strip a 6th and lets be over this.

  114. overratedsteelerhater says: Dec 2, 2013 4:08 PM

    not much to say ,film shows it all.Tomlin’s full of crap he knew what he was doing..CHEATING!!!!

  115. lennylyles says: Dec 2, 2013 4:08 PM

    If you slow it up Tomlin not only tried to impede him he tried to trip him! Anything less than a year ending suspension will not be acceptable.

  116. emmac13 says: Dec 2, 2013 4:10 PM

    For punishment he should have to finish the season with Flipper Weeden.
    Sincerely, Browns Fan

    This is a good way for Weeden to extend his career pass this year. He is All Time Punishment QB of the NFL.

  117. CKL says: Dec 2, 2013 4:11 PM

    I’ve always disliked Tomlin’s personality and I think he’s being pretty smarmy with his explanation but regardless of intent, all that needs to happen is a fine. I might just double or triple the one for the NYJ assistant because since Tomlin’s a member of the Competition Committee, he should be held to an even higher standard for rules adherence I think. Draft picks and suspensions should be for more egregious happenings IMO. As in, if Tomlin had actually tripped Jones.

    As usual, Deb is one of the most reasonable and objective Steelers fans and Scoobies05 is the same for Ravens fans.

  118. lawyermalloy says: Dec 2, 2013 4:12 PM

    I hope they don’t fine him so you guys have something to talk about for eternity!

  119. thefiesty1 says: Dec 2, 2013 4:16 PM

    The field is for players and officials, NOT coaches. He’s in the wrong regardless of whether it was entional.

  120. Deb says: Dec 2, 2013 4:17 PM

    Hey, bunk …

    Yeah, we’ll have to agree to disagree on Smith. :)

    As for Tomlin … guess both of my coaches lost their minds this week. Tomlin’s doing the Shuffle, as ravenmomma said, in a no-go zone. And Saban is trying to kick 57-yard field goals that wipe out championship hopes. Tiki and I are still flabbergasted. :shock: Maybe Tomlin should stop drinking and Saban should start … or vice versa.

  121. meatsweat says: Dec 2, 2013 4:18 PM

    harrisonhits2 says:
    Dec 2, 2013 2:01 PM
    mayorrobford says:

    100k for team
    100k for coach
    strip them of their 2nd round pick
    ban him for 1 game
    _____________

    Geeze I loathe the Steelers but you’re nuts.

    They should fine him the same amount the Jets coach that blatantly tried to trip a kick returner was fined. That’s it.

    No ban, no draft picks, no fine for the team.

    Uhhhh, you’re a Steelers fan bub. You’re name is Harrisonhits…

  122. notwhoyouthinkitis says: Dec 2, 2013 4:19 PM

    Oh for pete’s sake, watch his face and specifically what he is looking at/towards. The Jumbotron. End of story. Talk about the sports media blowing an event way out of proportion, let alone the double standard of previous coaches having stepped on the field without having a draft pick taken from their team.

  123. thestrategyexpert says: Dec 2, 2013 4:19 PM

    I don’t see what angles we need other than what we saw. We saw the lookback in anticipation of the runner coming by, we saw the field step, and we saw that he was there in the first place! Plus we saw the smiling and the laughing, and if he is watching the play on the board then he knows where the play is coming since he is watching it right?

    This is ridiculous, Mike Tomlin is a liar, and there was nothing convincing about his words. So not only is he guilty of the violation, but he should be punished extra for delivering bold-faced lies that don’t even absolve him of the responsibility in the first place.

    This is pathetic and shameful and I think he should be fired. He’s not a good coach, he’s holding PIT back, and he’s embarrassing them and exposing them to fines. This is an outrage and he needs to get the heck out of the league for being a poor head coach, and other unprofessional reasons.

  124. olcap says: Dec 2, 2013 4:28 PM

    Tomlin’s actions as evidenced on the film on the angle that shows his face, his awareness of where Jones was, and the deliberate step onto the field a split second before Jones was at that spot, is ALL the proof anyone needs to realize beyond a shadow of a doubt that Tomlin did what he did with full knowledge and intent. He knew what he was doing and that video SHOUTS that to the world.

    If you want to sit in the corner with your fingers in your ears, that’s your choice, but the jury of public opinion, once they see that video, the one in this story, and any other good angle will show to everyone that he intended to do what he did, no question.

  125. notwhoyouthinkitis says: Dec 2, 2013 4:30 PM

    thestrategyexpert says
    “This is ridiculous, Mike Tomlin is a liar,… ”

    You are seriously projecting. Because Tomlin said “I was wrong. I accept responsibility.” So will you apologize? A nickel says you won’t. Listen to the after game interview. You did not so you are making up a lie to spread your hate. And that is exactly what it is. You accuse him of lying and of being unprofessional. Your hate is palpable and vile.

  126. canedaddy says: Dec 2, 2013 4:33 PM

    It was obvious before this video that it was intentional. The league better send a strong signal that this won’t be tolerated.

    A six-figure fine, suspension or draft picks would be fair and just, but I’d rather see him forced to wear a dunce cap and clown shoes on the sideline with a tether/leash to prevent him from stepping onto the field.

  127. badmoonrison says: Dec 2, 2013 4:37 PM

    The league should throw the book at Tomlin. He knows better than to stand in the way. Take away a draft pick. Make an example of him. If the league does that, I guarantee you this will never happen again. It disrupts the integrity of the sport.

  128. IamtheBucsFan says: Dec 2, 2013 4:38 PM

    After watching the replay it’s obvious he tried to impede the play. That’s pretty nasty stuff and he needs to be fined if not suspended. The NFL needs to stop that nonsense immediately.

  129. skinsfolife says: Dec 2, 2013 4:47 PM

    All I hear from raven fans is wah wah wah. They cry as much as their pouty coach.

  130. channelguy says: Dec 2, 2013 4:48 PM

    He’s clearly guilty, and I think he should get a stiffer punishment for lying about it. But consider that in the case of Spygate and Bountygate, the draft penalties were because the organization either KNEW or SHOULD HAVE KNOWN about what was happening.

    That’s not the case here. You have a smartass coach who tried to pull a fast one. So I think any draft pick penalty or even a fine for the team would be unwarranted.

    A short suspension for Tomlin would be warranted, but their year is basically done, so a suspension would be an unpaid vacation, having little impact, unless it’s held over till NEXT year. Perhaps the first two games of next year, with loss of pay, which will be a hefty amount? If not that, a large fine, but for the coach alone, not the team.

  131. gofish721 says: Dec 2, 2013 4:49 PM

    For those who say it should be the same punishment as the Jets incident, I say you’re wrong. If you want to stop future occurrences of this now before it escalates, you escalate the penalty now. Make the next coach or player who thinks about violating the rule wonder how much more may it cost me or my team than it did Tomlin?

    I gave him the benefit of the doubt until I saw that video with a quick deliberate looking side step DURING the return! Sad that a head coach sets that example…

  132. Nofoolnodrool says: Dec 2, 2013 4:49 PM

    You are seriously projecting. Because Tomlin said “I was wrong. I accept responsibility.” So will you apologize? A nickel says you won’t. Listen to the after game interview. You did not so you are making up a lie to spread your hate. And that is exactly what it is. You accuse him of lying and of being unprofessional. Your hate is palpable and vile.

    This type of behavior is what is dominating this site. Punish them harshly as long as it is not my team. Sort of parallels the state of our political parties…who cares about the truth if it doesn’t fit my agenda. Tomlin was wrong and took responsibility and deserves to be fined, but draft picks should not be included. He made a mistake, didn’t obstruct the determination of guilt……let’s not over react….if you do it’s just hate not logic.

  133. funkels says: Dec 2, 2013 4:51 PM

    You put your right foot in,
    You put your right foot out,
    You put your right foot in,
    And you shake it all about,

    You do the hokey pokey
    and you turn yourself around
    That what it’s all about.

  134. richndc says: Dec 2, 2013 4:55 PM

    I thought that was blatantly obvious from the broadcast video. I don’t pretend to care what punishment he should get, but do think its a damn good thing the Ravens won. Is anyone else pissed that with all the extra rules and rulings and extra legislation and focus on refs in the NFL, they are still totally blowing calls that affect the outcome of games??? And anyone who says “well, if you needed that call to win…” has no idea whatsoever what they are talking about. I am not talking about any one team or one call, but even yesterday (my team was not playing) I saw 2 games where the outcome would have likely been different if they refs (who were standing RIGHT THERE) would have either made the call, or not thrown a ticky tack flag. I think its getting worse myself.

  135. jedimasterbates says: Dec 2, 2013 5:06 PM

    Tomlin’s overrated, I’d like the Steelers to fire him but the Rooney’s (rule) ain’t doing that.

  136. thetooloftools says: Dec 2, 2013 5:06 PM

    The fact that he was laughing AFTER he did what he did warrants a suspension.

  137. packmanfan says: Dec 2, 2013 5:09 PM

    Did it decide the outcome of the game like the refs blunder in the Redskins/Giants one?
    If not, and he may face all this punishment while the refs get away scot free again.

  138. osteelers says: Dec 2, 2013 5:12 PM

    I agree with mostly everyone’s assessment on here, to me it looks intentional and a severe penalty should be given . But the punishment is where the NFL hypocrisy will show. We’ve seen it with player after player, team after team. Heck even within the Steelers own organization I’ve seen players get punished and other players get a free pass when back in the day (when I was a child) if you stepped out of line the Steelers sent you packing they didn’t care who you were. James Harrison smacks his old lady, he stays with the team. Cedrick Wilson smacks his old lady and he gets cut right away. Chris Rainy gets in trouble and gets cut, Alameda Ta’amu is drunk and wrecks and almost shot by police and stays on the team. They are hypocrites anymore, the Steelers and the NFL.

  139. packmanfan says: Dec 2, 2013 5:12 PM

    Put a laser out there that will only be on during a play and will sever anyone’s legs who try to cross it.
    That will solve the problem.
    And keep streakers off the field as well.

  140. ravensfranzy says: Dec 2, 2013 5:13 PM

    I’m a diehard Ravens fan, but always had respect for Tomlin. Very surprised by this cheap move.

  141. yanksbills says: Dec 2, 2013 5:23 PM

    It wasn’t me! It was the one armed man!

  142. dolfan13 says: Dec 2, 2013 5:30 PM

    It’s not about Hating a Team.

    As an Ohioan, I hate the Raven far more than the Steelers. As a matter of fact, I have great admiration for the Steeler’s Organization. I am not in favor of any sanctions against the team (no loss of draft picks or fines).

    The fact is that this one person, Head Coach Mike Tomlin, cheated. He cheated intentionally. All of you out there saying that intent does not matter, are full of it. Without intent it’s a mistake. With intent it is cheating. I maybe wrong but I believe intent is the difference between Murder and Man-Slaughter; and that’s a huge difference.

    If you look at the rest of the content on the link in the story you’ll see a little video of Belichick blatantly blocking a player who over ran the sidelines from returning to the field of play. This type behavior is egregious and should not be tolerated. I’d be calling for Joe Philbin’s butt just as loudly if I knew that he was intentionally cheating.

    Stop being a Homer and start being objective.

  143. jetsjetsjetsnow says: Dec 2, 2013 5:38 PM

    Good luck proving anything from this additional footage. You’ll have better luck proving there were shooters on the grassy knoll….

  144. bunjy96 says: Dec 2, 2013 5:45 PM

    doctorrustbelt says: Dec 2, 2013 1:58 PM

    Of course…. expecting the NFL to do anything is (kinda) delusional:

    SEE: Tampa Bay releasing Josh Freeman’s private medical records.

    >>>

    The team didn’t release those records. The Freeman entourage is responsible.

    Guess you haven’t kept up with what actually happened.

  145. Joemontanaflacco says: Dec 2, 2013 5:45 PM

    The evidence is overwhelming. Admitting to making a mistake is not the same as admitting to intentional interference. Tomlin has seen Jones destroy the opposing team’s momentum plenty of times. He knows that if Jones gets as far as his foot, the Steelers are done for the night — unless he can create an obstacle. The VIDEO doesn’t lie. Steelers need to be proactive, like college teams. Give the Ravens your 1st round pick and donate $100k to rlffDOTorg,

  146. steelersfanfromtheseventies says: Dec 2, 2013 5:50 PM

    ped013 says:
    Dec 2, 2013 2:27 PM
    It doesn’t look accidental to me. If I were investigating this and trying to determine his intent, I would look for other videos from this and other games to see where he typically stands during kickoffs, and if he usually looks at the Jumbotron, like he claims. I would then use this additional evidence to determine if this is something he normally does, and that he “lost his placement”, or if it appears that he did this with the intention of impeding Jacoby’s return.

    Without intent: $100K fine to Tomlin. No fine for the team.
    With intent: $100K fine to Tomlin and the team plus a four game suspension, removal from the Competition Committee, and with continued employment as head coach at the discretion of the Steelers.

    I don’t think the Steelers should be penalized a draft pick.

    At least somebody on here has some common sense.

  147. patriotinvasion says: Dec 2, 2013 5:51 PM

    *2008 Pittsburgh Steelers

    *Coached by Mike Tomcheat. Obviously cheated by interfering with kick returns all year. Not a real Championship

    The Steelers have 5 rings, not 6.

  148. ragingmouse says: Dec 2, 2013 5:56 PM

    “That’s a fact Jack”!

  149. fatsolio says: Dec 2, 2013 5:58 PM

    Sad how so many of these pro coaches do stuff like this. Really sets a good example for lesser coaches and younger players when you try and cheat.

    I wonder whether he’ll own up to it like Kidd did or still try and say it was an accident. Liars rule!

    It’d be funny if the Rooneys fired him if/when the team gets that 6 figure fine and if they insanely lose a draft pick over this.

  150. baltimorons says: Dec 2, 2013 5:59 PM

    I have a hard time believing people are so upset about this. Who would care if it was the Houston texans?

  151. mightyminer says: Dec 2, 2013 6:15 PM

    The thing that gets me is that how does a coach like Mike Tomlin, somebody with his intensity and focus, NOT realize it’s a kickoff situation and not have his eye on what’s happening on the field at that moment?

    It doesn’t fit who we’ve seen Mike Tomlin be.

    But neither does cheating so…

  152. bonniebengal says: Dec 2, 2013 6:15 PM

    This absolutely needs a strong response from the NFL. And the officials who didn’t call this appear to be in on the cheating IMO. The officials need to issue an explanation and they need to be fined and suspended for their part in this. Tomlin should be suspended for two games and fined $200K. The Steelers should be fined $100K. The officials who didn’t call this should be suspended and fined.

  153. dcstinks says: Dec 2, 2013 6:18 PM

    Either way, the Steelers are gonna lose a draft pick because of the dumb coach. Tomlin what are you gonna do now that the team you inherited has gotten old? Oh wait, get fired? Good luck putting together YOUR team.

  154. thestrategyexpert says: Dec 2, 2013 6:19 PM

    notwhoyouthinkitis:

    I don’t hate people. And it’s not personal. I had no reason to like or dislike Tomlin prior to this incident on a personal level and only disagreements with his football philosophies. What he did was cross a horrible line, and it seemed obvious that he had intent and then insulted everybody with a weak job of trying to hide his intent. Any person that ever does something like what he did on a grand professional stage with such a horribly unprofessional and uncalled for stunt like that deserves to have the book thrown at them. Regardless of who they are or what line of work they are in. This was about the action and the intent, and the lack of doing the right thing at ANY point in time, including right now as he tries to brush this off.

    Unacceptable garbage is what it is. But no hate for a person.

  155. dcstinks says: Dec 2, 2013 6:25 PM

    notwhoyouthinkitis:

    I don’t hate people. And it’s not personal. I had no reason to like or dislike Tomlin prior to this incident on a personal level and only disagreements with his football philosophies. What he did was cross a horrible line, and it seemed obvious that he had intent and then insulted everybody with a weak job of trying to hide his intent. Any person that ever does something like what he did on a grand professional stage with such a horribly unprofessional and uncalled for stunt like that deserves to have the book thrown at them. Regardless of who they are or what line of work they are in. This was about the action and the intent, and the lack of doing the right thing at ANY point in time, including right now as he tries to brush this off.
    ————————

    Couldn’t of said it better.

  156. riverhorsey says: Dec 2, 2013 6:28 PM

    1)Tomlin watches the the return and sees the guy is breaking to his sideline.

    2) Tomlin formulates “the juke” if the chance is there.

    3) He looks up at the stadium screen and takes one full deliberate side step to the right which places his right foot directly on the field.

    4) as the player reaches his position he pulls “the juke” trying to feign surprise he jumps at least a half yard onto the field hoping to feign surprise and disrupt the runner if not “accidentally on purpose” trip him as he hops back to the sideline.

    Tomlins actions were obv no accident. He deserves not only a huge fine but a suspension as well.

  157. dsheik says: Dec 2, 2013 6:57 PM

    Who needed new angle? It didnt look “accidental” from the start.

  158. shutupbrees says: Dec 2, 2013 6:59 PM

    If Bill Belicheck did this the internet would have exploded.

    I like Tomlin, and I think he’s a great coach, but this was a bush league tactic that he needs to pay dearly for.

    How he wasn’t even penalized 15 yards for being on the white is beyond me. The fact that he’s on the competition committee raises the bar for his fine/suspension in my opinion.

    I don’t think the team should be penalized with a draft pick, that seems excessive, but Tomlin should be suspended without pay for at least 1 game.

  159. johntonioholmes says: Dec 2, 2013 7:02 PM

    The only thing Tomlin was guilty of is being a moron.

    Beyond that, there is NO EVIDENCE whatsoever that he had intent. Sorry chums who insist that “he clearly meant to do this.”

    Sal Alosi had intent. There was clear evidence of that.

    There is no evidence that Tomlin had any intent. All the video evidence proves is that he’s too dumb to know where he’s standing.

    Punishable by a flag (which was not thrown) and a nice fine, but nothing else unless intent is proven.

    If the league office can prove intent then he should be suspended for the rest of the season. Without proof of intent though, a fine is sufficient.

  160. crownofthehelmet says: Dec 2, 2013 7:02 PM

    Joemontanaflacco says:
    Give the Ravens your 1st round pick and donate….
    ————————————–
    They’d just waste it on another Flacco-type.

  161. ridingwithnohandlebars says: Dec 2, 2013 7:03 PM

    I hope ESPN eventually does a sports science where they determine what impact Tomlin had on the play and if Jones would have likely scored otherwise.

  162. allmyexsliveintexas says: Dec 2, 2013 7:12 PM

    I’ve been to M&T Stadium before. There are TWO Jumbotrons there, one at each endzone. If you were watching on the Jumbotron, why wouldn’t you watch the one where the play is in front of you (where you could see both game and video in same direction)? It doesn’t make sense to turn your back to the play if you don’t have to, since you can get the same video feed on the other side. Obviously, there was something planned here.

    The “Tomlin Two-Step.”

  163. Dogsweat says: Dec 2, 2013 7:29 PM

    Lord Colin Tebow is not pleased.

  164. rodneyharrisonstruckstick says: Dec 2, 2013 7:38 PM

    Foot Gate? or is that already taken for SexyRexy?

  165. raidmagic says: Dec 2, 2013 7:39 PM

    You sure can tell the Steelers fans by the comments.

  166. scoobies05 says: Dec 2, 2013 7:44 PM

    you mean a superbowl winning qb?

  167. whatjusthapped says: Dec 2, 2013 7:51 PM

    Take away a draft pick and let’s see if anyone ever tries this move again.

  168. eagleswin says: Dec 2, 2013 7:54 PM

    Deb says:
    Dec 2, 2013 2:56 PM
    Thanks to those who answered my question about the white area. I’d love to be able to defend Tomlin here, and suppose it’s possible he was so engrossed in the play that he lost all awareness of where he was. But when you’re completely alone with no other team personnel in sight, it does seem you’d realize you’re in the wrong place.

    Frankly, I’m extremely angry with Tomlin right now and don’t much care what happens to him–as long as it doesn’t impact our draft picks. He didn’t line up other coaches or plan this in advance. It would be different if the Ravens had lost, but he didn’t affect the game’s outcome. This was all him. Let him take the hit.

    As for the officials … yes, they should have thrown a flag. But these dimwits have blown calls in so many games the last couple of weeks I’ve lost count. They aren’t favoring the Steelers. They simply don’t know the rules of the game. It’s unreal that a sport raking in this much money would hire part-time, poorly trained Elmer Fudds as refs. Until he addresses officiating, Goodell’s precious “shield” has no integrity to uphold.

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    He tried to do that a year ago. The media, including ringleader Pat Summerall, trashed him and the replacement refs mercilessly. Many of the people who are complaining about the quality of the regular officiating this year were those swearing the league couldn’t live without them last year and to give them whatever they wanted because they were so much better.

    There were people even calling to put an asterisk behind last season because, in their opinion, the refs were influencing the outcomes of games which the regular refs never, ever ,ever did.

    Because of all the unfounded outrage and media frenzy we now have refs with tenure and little to no accountability. People got what they wished for.

  169. coachbeck says: Dec 2, 2013 7:58 PM

    If it’s just a fine other coaches will do it.

    Suspension doesn’t do anything eirher. They suck anyway.

  170. brazzz01 says: Dec 2, 2013 7:58 PM

    Unless you can read Tomlin’s mind there is no way to determine his intent. Anyone who says otherwise is ridiculous.

    The league has to send a message though and hit him HARD with a penalty regardless of what his intent was. Because if they don’t, another coach will try it and it WILL be with intent. The trade off for a light slap on the wrist will be worth it.

    Or… a player running at full speed in full uniform, pads and helmet will see the coach or whoever it is standing near the field and decide to teach him the hard way that he shouldn’t be standing there. I don’t think anyone wants to see that.

  171. bert1913 says: Dec 2, 2013 8:04 PM

    the old angle showed enough

  172. steelerofthedraft says: Dec 2, 2013 8:14 PM

    I’m sorry but everyone is making this into something bigger than it is . Tomlin didn’t trip jones or stop him from scoring .
    Jones was caught by Cortez Allen , Allen had the angle on him and was catching him regardless if tomlin was there or not .
    The thing that hurts tomlin was that while he was jumping away his right foot crossed into the field .
    Is what he did stupid ? Yes it was but I can’t blame him , the refs need to do there jobs and monitor the sidelines before a kickoff , if tomlin didn’t do the dumb jump slide no one would be talking about this .
    That being said , fine him 100k and move on, he knows what he did was dumb , you don’t penalize a franchise because of this .
    If tomlin wanted to trip jones I’m sure he would have

  173. koenig61 says: Dec 2, 2013 8:32 PM

    This new video shows nothing. I want to see exactly when tomlin moved over towards the field. If he was standing there from the beginning. In other words how could tomlin know if the return was going to be on this side of the field, down the middle of the field or if jacoby cuts back to the other side of the field. If anything to me this video shows tomlin moving his “left” foot to the right because the ref is approaching from behind, as if he’s trying to get out of the way of the ref approaching from his left. Now if there is video of tomlin standing further away and then side stepping slowly towards the edge of the field as Jacoby got closer, then you have a smoking gun. But to me this looks as though tomlin had been standing there for a while, and then moves his left foot closer together with his right as the ref approaches. Only tomlin knows for certain. Either way it’s easy to prove. They have to have video showing exactly when he moved over there, and also evidence of whether or not he does this for most if not all kick offs. I like how everyone knows intent, yet we haven’t even seen film of when tomlin went to that spot. As for the laughing it’s been said over and over that they kept playing it on the jumbo torn and the crowd was booing him. Also if you really want to see intent check out the video on the same page of belichick blocking an opposing player from returning to the field. That’s intent.

  174. steelerofthedraft says: Dec 2, 2013 8:39 PM

    I guess people also forgot about the no call in the illegal motion/ false start on suisham on the botched field goal ? Kicker starts moving 2 seconds before snap , but refs just eat the whistle ?
    Horrible officiating , this crew needs a harsher penalty than tomlin

  175. joemac1114 says: Dec 2, 2013 8:56 PM

    Class organization, now with a coach with no class. I do believe the Rooney’s won’t put up with this type of garbage. Tomlin may have walked to the unemployment line. If Pittsburgh is lucky he will Todd Haley with him.

  176. takingbacksundays5 says: Dec 2, 2013 9:13 PM

    The Steeler fanboys defending Tomlin are hilarious. Keep it up guys. I can’t wait to taste your tears when Tomlin gets a huge fine and is suspended for a game or two.

  177. frank booth says: Dec 2, 2013 9:17 PM

    steelersaregodsteam says: Dec 2, 2013 2:10 PM

    This is just another example of the League’s crusade against the Steelers. We will overcome. We always overcome.
    ==================================
    The Rooneys are and have been the darlings of the NFL. Don’t pretend like the Steelers are persecuted underdogs, because that couldn’t be further from the truth.

    Steelers don’t always overcome. Did they make the playoffs in 2012? They always “start slow and finish fast” according to you. They were 2-5 in their last 7 games.

    Do you have any more silliness that needs to be debunked?

  178. dukeblue12 says: Dec 2, 2013 9:30 PM

    Why do people need an alternative angle to see that Tomlin did this intentionally? It was as clear as day as I watched it live.

    I’m not going to pretend I know what the right penalty should be, but it was clear that Tomlin’s act was intentional.

  179. swagger52 says: Dec 2, 2013 9:44 PM

    Why suspend the coach, when that only helps the Dolphins, which hurts the Ravens or any other team competing for the playoffs. It should be a fine and a loss of #1 draft pick in 2014.

    Taking away draft picks doesn’t hurt the Steelers. If you really want to hurt the Steelers you would take away one of their geezers.

  180. patriotinvasion says: Dec 2, 2013 9:48 PM

    Someone dig up Specter. We need to call for Congressional hearings because there’s really no telling just how far back this CHEATING by the Steelers goes. Shame this taints their whole organization dating back to the sterioids cheating of the 70’s.

  181. mmmpierogi says: Dec 2, 2013 10:31 PM

    mayorrobford says:
    Dec 2, 2013 1:48 PM
    100k for team
    100k for coach
    strip them of their 2nd round pick
    ban him for 1 game

    ********************************************************************

    What’s next, then — start ejecting players for neutral zone encroachment or dishing out multiple-game suspensions for pass interference? Sounds reasonable.

    Tomlin should be fined, but if you seriously think it warrants a second round draft pick, then you’re out of your mind.

  182. stuartscottslefteye says: Dec 2, 2013 11:21 PM

    I’m tired of the chatter “he was just standing on the white line.” First of all, he wasn’t on the white line at all when Jones started his run. He took a couple of steps to the edge of the line and stood like a statue watching the Jumbotron AFTER he saw Jones starting to bolt down the sideline. He then looks over his shoulder as Jones nears, then takes a step onto the field before feigning his surprised dart to the bench. It’s akin to standing next to a railroad track as a freight train suddenly approaches. Mike, do you really expect us to believe you would step up onto the rail to jump out of the way? All of this put together doesn’t paint a picture of innocence. I had much respect for Tomlin – until now.

    And to Al Michaels who, at the time said “no harm, no foul.” Get real, it may have cost the Ravens 4 points. Let’s hope it doesn’t happen again and change the outcome of the game.

  183. randomguy9999 says: Dec 2, 2013 11:34 PM

    a fearsome fine and suspension should come down…… it’s outrageous that he’s even on the white area during the play, much less putting a foot on the field

    $250k fine
    2+ game suspension…

  184. boomgrounder says: Dec 3, 2013 12:20 AM

    In my opinion the new video indicates Tomlin purposefully placed his foot in the field of play. He obviously knew he was in the restricted area. I have no doubt it was a blatant attempt to interfere with the ball carrier which is cheating. Some people say it had no affect on the outcome of the game. That makes no difference he broke a rule. He cheated!
    Punishment: Suspended for the remainder of the season without pay and fined 1 million dollars. Tomlin must request reinstatement to the NFL prior to Training Camp 2014 meaning he will miss all mini camps Draft etc.
    Steelers to forfeit 2014 2nd Round Draft Pick.

  185. Deb says: Dec 3, 2013 12:28 AM

    @eagleswin …

    You’re right about the events surrounding last season’s strike. But if Goodell hadn’t a) ignored the officiating crisis for years, then b) bungled his handling of the negotiations with the officials’ union, things wouldn’t have gone so wrong last year.

    He deliberately pushed the officials into a strike, assuming the public would back the league. Given how incompetent the “trained” officials are, he should have known the replacements would be hopelessly lost and quickly jeopardize the validity of the entire season. And he should have known fans who are deeply invested in their teams–not to mention their fantasy teams–wouldn’t stand for that. But as usual, Mr. Corporate miscalculated what would happen on the field and how that would impact the audience. So here we are.

    But his union problems aren’t stopping him from paring down the rulebook to something sane and manageable, requiring booth refs at every game so field refs are not “under the hood” deciding whether to reverse themselves, implementing booth review of every end zone play whether or not it’s been ruled a score, and so on. He could start fixing this mess tomorrow … if he were so inclined.

  186. i10east says: Dec 3, 2013 12:46 AM

    Jumbotrongate!!!

  187. ampatsisahypocrite says: Dec 3, 2013 2:10 AM

    All you haters crying and whining for blood are hilarious. You don’t need to take draft picks or even fine to put a stop to this. You simply enforce the rule that says you step into the no-no area, the other teams gets awarded the TD if they don’t score. Which is what the officials should’ve done in the first place. It’s really more on them, since they could’ve given Jones the TD, and let him bail out Flacco again like he did in the Super Bowl.

    Award automatic TDs for interference, and you take away whatever incentive there is to step into that area of the sidelines.

  188. Foghorn The IKonoclast says: Dec 3, 2013 2:26 AM

    Just like with Incognito, it becomes a storm before all the facts were in. We are talking here about a coach’s reputation getting damaged and for what? An interpretation?

  189. tictoccpthook says: Dec 3, 2013 2:29 AM

    The Steelers lost both the game and players to injury. Tomlinson has no record of foul play. His comments have always been straightforward. He made a mistake that is easy to understand. He will pay the price when the NFL says so. No need to bash his reputation; he admits to the mistake. Meanwhile, the Steelers are hurtin.

  190. steelersnowand4ever says: Dec 3, 2013 9:31 AM

    I am and have been a Seeler fan since ’72. In all of my years of following them, I don’t think you would have ever seen Chuck Noll or Bill Cowher do the stupidity that this “coach” has done! Rules state that NO ONE is to be in the 6 foot stripe on the sidelines. League should fine him, Rooney should FIRE him and his idiot OC, and maybe next year we can regroup and maybe have a decent season without these distractions

  191. jhbart001 says: Dec 3, 2013 9:38 AM

    I just saw the play for the first time and all I can say is WTF! He is standing there on the white stripe at the very edge of the field with his back to the play. Has he lost his mind? I have never seen anything like that other than the famous Woody Hayes play where he punched the kid coming down the sidelines. The Steelers need to tell Tomlin to quit staying up all nite in his office and go home and get some rest. And yes a fine is in order at the very least.

  192. gallopinggilmore says: Dec 3, 2013 11:24 AM

    This new angle just shows him moving out of the referee’s path.

  193. BringBackTheFlex says: Dec 3, 2013 12:02 PM

    brucetrimble says: Dec 2, 2013 2:00 PM

    Bush league move. And I thought the steelers were a classy team
    ———————–
    They’ve never been a classy team.

  194. borderline1988 says: Dec 3, 2013 12:46 PM

    There’s no way he did this on purpose. He’d literally be risking his entire career if he’d be caught doing it on purpose, with cameras everywhere watching his every move.

    There should significant punishment nonetheless, to ensure it doesn’t happen again.

    People who keep saying stuff like this is a bush-league move, are just Steeler haters (and I’m no Steelers fan).

  195. ProFootballTalkSucks says: Dec 4, 2013 1:28 PM

    Seems to be mostly Patriots and Ravens fans complaining. Two teams whose histories should keep their mouths shut about cheating.

  196. keenemarin says: Dec 6, 2013 4:33 PM

    I wish Jacoby would have kept on running, and just taken him out. It would have been well within his rights, maybe Tomlin wouldnt have had such a big smile on his face after that.

  197. doctorrustbelt says: Dec 6, 2013 8:31 PM

    dr. rydze

  198. legendaryordinance says: Dec 7, 2013 6:04 PM

    Man, the more I see this the more disgusted I am in coaches decisions this year. He didn’t wander aimlessly. I recorded the game and it shows him purposely going and standing there. that white line isn’t very narrow. that fine wasn’t enough. if I’m the Rooney’s I would cut ties with him. He made our organization look awful. as it is he and Haley have made Coach Cowher’s team look bad. His track record is all on a down hill slide. sorry Big Ben but its rebuilding time. Fire the Head coach, O.C and GM. bring in new blood. efil 4 releets.

  199. dukeearl says: Dec 9, 2013 9:55 PM

    legendaryordinance,
    I believe the line is 6 ft wide.

    Everybody else from the team is to the outside of the white area.

    I would think you would know if you stepped away from the rest of your team.

    meh… he has been smacked with a large penalty. Hope it goes to a good charity.

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