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Rodgers disappointed in tests, wants to play this year

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The Packers aren’t ready to clear Aaron Rodgers to play yet, though they haven’t ruled him out yet either.

And he’s not thrilled about the prospect of missing another game.

Rodgers said during his weekly radio show with ESPNWisconsin’s Jason Wilde that he was hoping for better news.

“At this point, it’s really about the risk of going back out there,” Rodgers said Tuesday night on his weekly radio show (You can listen to the full interview here). “I can’t say this morning was the greatest news because I was hoping for full clearance to get back out there and we didn’t get that. It’s Tuesday so we have a good amount of time before the game.”

Rodgers will participate on a limited basis in practice, hoping to get back on the field Sunday against the Falcons, five weeks from breaking his collarbone against the Bears on Nov. 4. If he can’t go, it sounds like Matt Flynn will get the nod over Scott Tolzien again.

The Packers are 0-4-1 in that span to fall to 5-6-1, and not even the thought of being out of contention when he comes back deters the 30-year-old quarterback.

“I desperately want to be back on the field, and that’s been my stance from the beginning,” Rodgers said. “If I’m healthy, I want to be on the field. Would hate to be in a situation where we’re out of it, but this is my team. I’m the leader of this team, and I want to be out there.”

But that might not be for another week, at least.

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77 Responses to “Rodgers disappointed in tests, wants to play this year”
  1. gtodriver says: Dec 4, 2013 7:14 AM

    “I can’t say this morning was the greatest news because I was hoping for full clearance to get back out there and we didn’t get that. It’s Tuesday so we have a good amount of time before the game.”

    Earth to AR…

    It was Tuesday night when you said that and you had no Dr’s appointment last night.

    It’s now Wednesday.

    Did your collarbone miraculously get better overnight?

    If you can’t participate fully in practice today, the chances of you playing on Sunday are somewhere between slim and none.

    And slim just left town…

    Personally, I hope you can play the rest of this season.

    I’m tired of listening to the whining of the cheddar bay fans and all their excuses.

  2. gophersnot says: Dec 4, 2013 7:20 AM

    “It’s Tuesday so we have a good amount of time before the game.”

    Who is the we? Is that Aaron and Ryan?

  3. clowntown1 says: Dec 4, 2013 7:23 AM

    I appreciate the effort but do not see the point. This team is sunk for 2013. Yes…the defense has looked awful but it makes it difficult when you have to be out there 40 minutes every game because your offense cannot move the ball.

    I am sure there are a lot of people loving this temporary fall from grace but those people should ask themselves how any team would do that lost their #1 QB, #2 QB, starting LT, starting TE, #1 WR, #2 WR for 4 games, starting ILB, both starting OLBs for 4 games, best d-back, second best d-back, and who ever else I can’t remember.

    Go ahead…take those positions off of any team in the league and see where they end up. The Packers don’t have structural problems, they have an injury problem. Nothing you can do about it except wait till next year.

  4. wisconsinhillfolk says: Dec 4, 2013 7:37 AM

    Done.

  5. DM says: Dec 4, 2013 7:47 AM

    As a Packers fan, if he can’t go this week, I want him shut down for the year. Lets lose the rest of our games and get a top safety in the draft.

  6. gtodriver says: Dec 4, 2013 7:50 AM

    From Tyler Dunn of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinal:

    “The chaos we see now at quarterback — two touchdowns, seven interceptions, zero wins in five games — began in the off-season.

    General manager Ted Thompson ignored the disaster plan. Green Bay gave Aaron Rodgers a $110 million extension and then forgot to buy the insurance.”

    Several other teams backup QB’s have won games this season.

    In Ted they used to trust…

  7. mizzousooner says: Dec 4, 2013 7:51 AM

    Obviously the Packers know more about their situation and about Rodgers health, but, If I were calling the shots his season would be done.

    Ted Thompson gets way too much credit as a GM. Their defense is mediocre at best year in, year out. Plus they refuse to build a solid offensive line with some depth on the bench.

    I wonder how many more seasons with Rodgers on board will they squander? Did they really think going into this year they were a legit contender. With that D and with that 0-line, no way.

  8. logicalvoicessay says: Dec 4, 2013 7:51 AM

    i’d let him play. if he gets hurt, he’s out until next year. being cautious? he’s out until next year. what’s the difference? he gets payed mightily to play, not watch.

  9. shaggytoodle says: Dec 4, 2013 7:57 AM

    If he’s 100% I say let him play. I am not a fan of just letting him sit for the rest of the season, but this is also cornerstone of the franchise if he’s anything less than that given the circumstances of where they stand this season. If he is anything less I would say keep him seated.

    It stinks when a team is without their best player whether its the Peterson, Johnson, or in this case Rodgers.

  10. touchdownroddywhite says: Dec 4, 2013 8:11 AM

    Can somebody tell him to shave the ridiculous mustache as part of getting clearance to play, please?

  11. isphet71 says: Dec 4, 2013 8:19 AM

    Crazy to think about how good the Packers are with Rodgers and how bad they are without him. They are pulling a 2011 Colts.

  12. johnnyjagfan says: Dec 4, 2013 8:27 AM

    The Falcons can’t sack groceries. Start him and when you’ve hung 35 on them in the first half, sit.

  13. neer music says: Dec 4, 2013 8:28 AM

    that’s too bad, kaaron!

  14. glennsyank13 says: Dec 4, 2013 8:41 AM

    I still find it funny Rodgers is younger than Brandon Weeden.

  15. conormacleod says: Dec 4, 2013 8:42 AM

    It would be foolish to bring him back at all this year. The Packers are NOT making the playoffs. So, what is their goal? Of course they aren’t going to say any of this, but he’s their only good player. Sit him until next season.

  16. thetroofishere says: Dec 4, 2013 8:46 AM

    As a Cowboys fan, he should sit out the next two games.

    As a fantasy owner of A-Rod, come back strong in week 16 so I can bring home a championship.

  17. packermama says: Dec 4, 2013 8:56 AM

    While it is in some ways admirable that he wants to play, it sounds like the medical assessment is not favorable. This will be a lost season for the Packers. It happens. Rodgers being out has exposed how weak this team is without him. Time to overhaul and get Ted Thompson help drafting for the defense. It isn’t his strong suit.

  18. richcranium2112 says: Dec 4, 2013 8:56 AM

    ATL, PIT, DAL and CHI are disappointed too!

  19. nfl4days says: Dec 4, 2013 9:00 AM

    If he doesn’t play and the Packers lose, I wouldn’t be shocked to see them shelf Rodgers for the rest of the year. Let him and Cobb get fully healthy in the off season and focus on improving the offesnive line and defense.

  20. habsfanatic says: Dec 4, 2013 9:06 AM

    A broken collarbone takes about 6 weeks to fully heal, though it remains fragile for a while longer. However, if it’s healed enough he should play. Worst case scenario he breaks it again but the offseason is plenty long enough for a second fracture to heal in time for the start of next season. Play the man and win out baby!

  21. obsessedvikingfan says: Dec 4, 2013 9:11 AM

    DM says: Dec 4, 2013 7:47 AM

    As a Packers fan, if he can’t go this week, I want him shut down for the year. Lets lose the rest of our games and get a top safety in the draft.

    __

    Typical Packer fan. Giving up when times get rough.

    Don’t see the Vikings fans calling for tanking. Real fans want wins. Not quitters.

  22. packerihardlyknowher says: Dec 4, 2013 9:11 AM

    I am embarrassed by Packers fans who want Rodgers to sit out the rest of the year and tank the season for a draft pick. That is pathetic. Packers fans are spoiled.

  23. tvjules says: Dec 4, 2013 9:13 AM

    See you next year.

  24. doorharp11 says: Dec 4, 2013 9:19 AM

    i blame all of this on packer fans everywhere if it wasnt for your bad attitudes and low self esteem erin wouldnt have gotten hurt

  25. tutamus says: Dec 4, 2013 9:22 AM

    @obsessedvikingfan

    FALSE.

    Can’t tell you how many “Tank for Teddy” comments I’ve seen over the course of the season from Vikings fans.

  26. gtodriver says: Dec 4, 2013 9:27 AM

    clowntown1 says:

    I am sure there are a lot of people loving this temporary fall from grace but those people should ask themselves how any team would do that lost their #1 QB, #2 QB….

    The Packers don’t have structural problems, they have an injury problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    The problem is that the Packers didn’t have a “qualified” #2 QB, due to either TT’s arrogance or ignorance.

    The problem isn’t an injury problem – it’s the lack of quality depth.

  27. jimboinlimbo says: Dec 4, 2013 9:28 AM

    I’ve said several times in these comment threads that Rodgers likes attention at least as much and, in my estimation, more than Favre. Every week for the last six he’s said he’s going to play the next game. Keeps the conversation alive and keeps the spotlight on him. Sound familiar?

    A precursor to what’s going to happen in 4 or 5 years when his skills diminish. You heard it here first!

  28. godofwine330 says: Dec 4, 2013 9:37 AM

    Of course he wants to play this year. Him playing means playoffs. Don’t alk about playoffs? Are you kidding me? Playoffs? Without him they just hope to win a damned game.

    Without him they have no shot at the playoffs, but he has to be careful that he doesn’t try to rush back and do more damage to himself ala RGIII or even Greg Cook, the former Bengals QB from the early 70′s by trying to come back too soon.

  29. wannabear says: Dec 4, 2013 9:38 AM

    May I say that the Bears defence has been decimated this year due to injuries but Josh Mcnown has been great. so no more excuses from cheeseheads.

  30. baddegg says: Dec 4, 2013 9:43 AM

    As a Redskins fan, I have to say, I appreciate AR’s competitiveness, but they really need to go slowly with getting him back on the field. The Skins basically sacrificed this entire year to “get RGIII healthy again.” GB needs to take the long view.

  31. twonis says: Dec 4, 2013 9:53 AM

    To all the Ted Thompson haters: Shut up. You’re a bunch of idiots.

    Let’s take a look at it: Aaron Rodgers had been historically very injury resistant. It’s extremely easy to call TT out with 20/20 hindsight, but before that happened the real concerns were on the other side of the ball.

    Notable Ted Thompson Draft Picks:
    Aaron Rodgers, James Jones, Jordy Nelson, Clay Matthews, BJ Raji, David Bakhtiari, Eddie Lacy, Nick Perry, Randall Cobb, Josh Sitton and…if we’re being fair…Greg Jennings and Jermichael Finley.

    Add in Datone Jones, Casey Hayward, Jarret Boykin, Brad Jones, and Mike Neal as potential future breakout star players and you’ve got a draft history that any team would be jealous of.

    A draft pick is a 50/50 proposition. Some get huge, some blow up. TT has a great track record if you actually look at it objectively.

  32. filthymcnasty1 says: Dec 4, 2013 9:55 AM

    This is making it very difficult to win a NFL record 14th World Championship this season. With Aaron being the face of the NFL, the entire nation anxiously awaits his triumphant return.

  33. packerenglishmajor says: Dec 4, 2013 9:57 AM

    Look at it on the bright side:
    Packer cultists now have the best part of five days to think up excuses for why their team can’t field a legitimate back-up QB.

  34. 1historian says: Dec 4, 2013 10:02 AM

    “Packers fans are spoiled.”

    Got that right – 4 Super Bowl wins, innumerable NFL Championships before that, the Super Bowl Trophy named after one of your former coaches, 10 year waiting lists for tickets, along with Da Bearsss the most storied team in the history of the league, and now:

    “Discount daaable check!!”

    Can life get any better?

    FYI – I am a Pats fan and former BALTIMORE Colts fan, but my favorite ballcap is a plain green denim cap with a simple G on it, and my favorite t-shirt is a simple gray Packers’ training camp shirt.

  35. richcranium2112 says: Dec 4, 2013 10:04 AM

    H8ter r jealous!

  36. duece5 says: Dec 4, 2013 10:17 AM

    clowntown1 says: Dec 4, 2013 7:23 AM

    I appreciate the effort but do not see the point. This team is sunk for 2013. Yes…the defense has looked awful but it makes it difficult when you have to be out there 40 minutes every game because your offense cannot move the ball.

    I am sure there are a lot of people loving this temporary fall from grace but those people should ask themselves how any team would do that lost their #1 QB, #2 QB, starting LT, starting TE, #1 WR, #2 WR for 4 games, starting ILB, both starting OLBs for 4 games, best d-back, second best d-back, and who ever else I can’t remember.

    Go ahead…take those positions off of any team in the league and see where they end up. The Packers don’t have structural problems, they have an injury problem. Nothing you can do about it except wait till next year.

    duece5 says:

    The Vikings have lost:

    -starting QB, starting Strong Safety, starting WR, starting TE, starting MLB, starting CB, starting Free Safety, and…….

    have a banged up Peterson-groin and ankle issues!

    Cry me a river pack fans……the bears are just as bad with injuries….they lost 1/3 of their D and their starting QB, but have won a few games.

    Smart fans realize you can’t replace your starting QB without some dropoff……but your team went off the CLIFF.

    It exposed brutally obvious issues: a BAD defense, and ZERO ability with the backup QB positions.

    TT …..the wizard….the genius…..FAILED.

    Quit giving the dude a pass……he drafted Rodgers, but even HE FELL IN YOUR LAP.

    TT didn’t move up to get him. If he KNEW Rodgers would be an MVP type QB, TT and every team in the NFL would have moved up in order to get him.

    Same can be said of Brady, Brees, and Russel Wilson.

    Sometimes, it is some thought, but ALOT of LUCK.

    The packers were lucky Rodgers FELL to him. If the Vikings had known that Culpepper would have blown out his knee, later in 2005, then sure, they would have picked Rodgers in the Spring of 2005.

    Culpepper and Manning were co-MVPs in 2004…..you don’t draft a QB when your MVP QB (Vikings) is 26/27, coming off the year he had.

    So, who knows what QBs will shine in 2014??
    Manziel, Bridgewater, Carr, McCarron…..who????

    Nobody really knows, although I think Manziel will be an absolute star, regardless of his personal maturity.

    So yes pack fans, you have been fortunate the last 20 years, but remember where your franchise was in the previous 25 years without a franchise QB…..you won 1 division title in that time.

    Evn if Rodgers is healthy next year, you will be wasting his ability with the terrible D and lack of QB development you currently have. That will need more than a few picks to take care of.

  37. conormacleod says: Dec 4, 2013 10:24 AM

    Love the guy that said injuries are the Packers only issue. Awesome! Keep your team just the way it is. It allows you to lose in the first round of the playoffs. Or, without your QB, never win.

  38. conormacleod says: Dec 4, 2013 10:30 AM

    Thompson gambled and lost. End of story. No team can lose their QB and not skip a beat. However, GB has not won a single game without Rodgers. A good “team” would look to win half their games until their QB can come back. This is just a very poor football team. Without Rodgers, this team has been the 2nd worst (Houston) team in the NFL.

  39. dwarftosser says: Dec 4, 2013 10:31 AM

    1historian says:
    Dec 4, 2013 10:02 AM
    “Packers fans are spoiled.”

    Got that right – 4 Super Bowl wins, innumerable NFL Championships before that, the Super Bowl Trophy named after one of your former coaches, 10 year waiting lists for tickets, along with Da Bearsss the most storied team in the history of the league, and now:
    ____________________________________

    10 year waiting list? I wish. I’ve been on it for over 25 years and I’m still over 32,000 spots away.

  40. mikemccarthyhof says: Dec 4, 2013 10:32 AM

    frigckken idot biquen fans. hapless and tastless. ROGERS WILL BE BACK! GOPACKGO!

  41. ejmat2 says: Dec 4, 2013 10:35 AM

    clowntown1 says:
    Dec 4, 2013 7:23 AM
    I appreciate the effort but do not see the point. This team is sunk for 2013. Yes…the defense has looked awful but it makes it difficult when you have to be out there 40 minutes every game because your offense cannot move the ball.

    I am sure there are a lot of people loving this temporary fall from grace but those people should ask themselves how any team would do that lost their #1 QB, #2 QB, starting LT, starting TE, #1 WR, #2 WR for 4 games, starting ILB, both starting OLBs for 4 games, best d-back, second best d-back, and who ever else I can’t remember.

    Go ahead…take those positions off of any team in the league and see where they end up. The Packers don’t have structural problems, they have an injury problem. Nothing you can do about it except wait till next year.
    —————————————-
    Though I agree with your premise to a point, the fact is the Packers are just not that good with AR. AR makes them so much better. Without him they are no better than the Vikings or any of the other losing teams out there. I’m a Viking fan so I can say that. But the truth is in the record since he’s been out.

  42. ejmat2 says: Dec 4, 2013 10:36 AM

    I meant without AR

  43. dwarftosser says: Dec 4, 2013 10:42 AM

    conormacleod says:
    Dec 4, 2013 10:24 AM
    Love the guy that said injuries are the Packers only issue. Awesome! Keep your team just the way it is. It allows you to lose in the first round of the playoffs. Or, without your QB, never win.
    —————————————————-

    Seriously. The defense was the healthiest it’s been in a few years for that Thanksgiving game, and look what happened. The Packers offense is in good shape, and with Rodgers in it’s a top 5 offense in the league and can score on anybody. But the defense routinely gets lit up by teams with good offenses, and it’s hard to beat a good team right now without a perfect performance from the offense. If the Packers are going to be a serious Superbowl contender every year, they need a better defense. I think that needs to start with a new defensive coordinator.

  44. obsessedvikingfan says: Dec 4, 2013 10:51 AM

    mikemccarthyhof says: Dec 4, 2013 10:32 AM

    frigckken idot biquen fans. hapless and tastless. ROGERS WILL BE BACK! GOPACKGO!

    __________
    WHAT was the dribble that you just posted? Seriously. Take a few seconds to proof read before posting.

  45. teal379 says: Dec 4, 2013 10:51 AM

    Vikings never tank for draft picks?

    Someone actually said that and was serious?

    They don’t HAVE to tank to get high draft picks, going all out for the Vikings puts them drafting somewhere 1-15 every year anyway.

    It’s not tanking if you’re already at the bottom. Packers lose 5 in a row and are STILL ahead in the standings over the Vikings. The Packers, literally have to suck MORE to FALL to the Vikings’ level.

  46. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Dec 4, 2013 10:58 AM

    Thanks for all the brilliant analysis vike fans, yeah, our team is not as good when our All-Pro, future hall of fame QB is hurt. Still, I have the utmost confidence in Matt now that he has a few snaps under his belt. He’ll take care of business this week against Atlanta and then ARodg can take us the rest of the way.
    Go. Pack. Go

  47. sevensixtwonato says: Dec 4, 2013 11:01 AM

    teal379 says:
    Dec 4, 2013 10:51 AM
    Vikings never tank for draft picks?

    Someone actually said that and was serious?

    They don’t HAVE to tank to get high draft picks, going all out for the Vikings puts them drafting somewhere 1-15 every year anyway.

    ———————————————–

    You mean like in just this last draft where they first picked 22 overall?

    Typical Packer fan, cant do anything right. Even talking trash is above your skill sets. Pathetic…

  48. filthymcnasty1 says: Dec 4, 2013 11:01 AM

    One often overlooked reason that the Packers have 13 World Championships and the Vikings have 0 (zero) is that the almighty favors us over the hapless and tasteless souls in MN.

  49. stellarperformance says: Dec 4, 2013 11:08 AM

    Here we go again. The worst performing Packer team in 25 years and it is still better than the Vikings.

    The haters cannot handle the truth. All they have to fight with is insults…as usual. Very weak-minded types. Full of themselves.

    All hat…..no cattle

  50. shlort says: Dec 4, 2013 11:09 AM

    Like it matters who the eventual NFC North Champion is.

    Detroit, Chicago or Green Bay? Whichever team it is, that team will be out of the playoffs in embarassing fashion in the wild card round. Weakest Division in the NFC, and that even takes into consideration the NFC East, which is really bad.

  51. purpleguy says: Dec 4, 2013 11:13 AM

    I still think the Lions and Gym Shorts can screw the NFCN up, despite the fact that it’s been handed to them on a silver platter.

  52. trollsetter says: Dec 4, 2013 11:17 AM

    Even with a top draft pick, they’ll end up taking a defensive superstar like Datone Jones. Also, Rodgers won’t be the same after this injury. He’ll play scared, then angry. That’s when the Packer fans will suffer the most.

  53. obsessedvikingfan says: Dec 4, 2013 11:28 AM

    stellarperformance says: Dec 4, 2013 11:08 AM

    Here we go again. The worst performing Packer team in 25 years and it is still better than the Vikings.

    The haters cannot handle the truth. All they have to fight with is insults…as usual. Very weak-minded types. Full of themselves.
    ______________________

    2008, 6-10
    2005 4-12
    1991 4-12
    1990 6-10
    1988 4-12

    That is 25 years. I don’t think this is your worst year in 25 years considering you already have 5 wins and a tie with 4 games left.

    Know your own history before spewing nonsense.

  54. sactogary says: Dec 4, 2013 11:42 AM

    Backup QBs are a crapshoot. For all those blasting TT for not having a plan, and praising the Bears for having one, keep in mind that Seneca Wallace’s career stats are better than Josh McCown’s. If you have a backup that’s good enough to be a starter, there are at least six teams who should have been banging on your door for a trade earlier this year, since their starter isn’t good enough to be a starter.

  55. dahmergeinteam says: Dec 4, 2013 11:44 AM

    I love that my favorite handsome Packer is desperate to get back out on the field. I often invite desperate men to my apartment for a good time and it works out swell for me. Let him play.

  56. bearfan1957 says: Dec 4, 2013 11:47 AM

    to clowntown1 just getting to the last paragraph

    Go ahead…take those positions off of any team in the league and see where they end up. The Packers don’t have structural problems, th

    Typical complaining from Packer fan. Have you looked lately at Bears roster, I always said that if Rodgers got injured that Packers were done, well it happened. I don’t like any body getting hurt but its the nature of the game. athe Bears have just as many injured players out for yr, than GB.

  57. skolvikingsuperbowl says: Dec 4, 2013 11:48 AM

    Viking fans aren’t all as bad as the trolls on this thread. The rest of us apologize for these fools.

  58. trollsetter says: Dec 4, 2013 11:49 AM

    sactogary says:
    Dec 4, 2013 11:42 AM
    Backup QBs are a crapshoot. For all those blasting TT for not having a plan, and praising the Bears for having one, keep in mind that Seneca Wallace’s career stats are better than Josh McCown’s. If you have a backup that’s good enough to be a starter, there are at least six teams who should have been banging on your door for a trade earlier this year, since their starter isn’t good enough to be a starter.

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Is every other STARTING job a crapshoot too? Y’all know Rodgers is healthy, they just don’t want to start him behind that offensive offensive line. The Packers defense is historically bad too. Why are the packers 0-4-1 in their last 5 games? Surely they should have won at least one of those. Surely.

  59. dgt178 says: Dec 4, 2013 11:50 AM

    ….and by the way…..with all the stats posted on the packers….it looks to me like this obsessed IDIOT is more obsessed with the packers….than the ‘queenies….pitiful….just pitiful……

  60. dgt178 says: Dec 4, 2013 11:52 AM

    ….who is the azzzhole deleting all my posts???….probably a LOSER ‘QUEENIE “FAN”….LOSER!!!!!

  61. shlort says: Dec 4, 2013 11:52 AM

    obsessedvikingfan says:Dec 4, 2013 11:28 AM

    stellarperformance says: Dec 4, 2013 11:08 AM

    Here we go again. The worst performing Packer team in 25 years and it is still better than the Vikings.

    The haters cannot handle the truth. All they have to fight with is insults…as usual. Very weak-minded types. Full of themselves.
    ______________________

    2008, 6-10
    2005 4-12
    1991 4-12
    1990 6-10
    1988 4-12

    That is 25 years. I don’t think this is your worst year in 25 years considering you already have 5 wins and a tie with 4 games left.

    Know your own history before spewing nonsense.

    _____________________________

    It seems to me that this years Packers team has been performing worse than any of those you listed. That 1991 team was pretty bad, but I don’t think they were as bad in a 5 game stretch during that season as GB has been over the past 5 games.

    I guess your attempt at downplaying the knowledge of Packer fans is by trying to prove your superior knowledge trumps the basic idea that people have the right to an opinion about performance over a 25 year stretch?

    Maybe this Packers team is worse in that posters opinion, but not in yours? Your opinion is somehow better? Clue us all in if you would.

  62. teal379 says: Dec 4, 2013 11:57 AM

    sevensixtwonato says:
    Dec 4, 2013 11:01 AM

    You mean like in just this last draft where they first picked 22 overall?

    Typical Packer fan, cant do anything right. Even talking trash is above your skill sets. Pathetic…

    Per the NFL – between 2003 and 2012 (10 drafts) the Vikings have picked 9, 20, 7, 17, 7, no pick, 22, no pick, 12, and 4. That’s an average draft position of 9.8

    Pathetic.

    Even if you go 2004-this very last draft – average draft position of 11.1

    Pathetic and well within the 1-15 as laid out.

    Typical vikings fan, pathetic on all accounts, including understanding their own team’s history.

    Put it this way – if the Packers don’t make the playoffs this year, first time it’s been missed in 5 years. Vikings made the playoffs just twice in the last 5 years.

  63. obsessedvikingfan says: Dec 4, 2013 11:57 AM

    Stats don’t lie.

  64. sactogary says: Dec 4, 2013 12:02 PM

    trollsetter says: Dec 4, 2013 11:49 AM

    sactogary says:
    Dec 4, 2013 11:42 AM
    Backup QBs are a crapshoot. For all those blasting TT for not having a plan, and praising the Bears for having one, keep in mind that Seneca Wallace’s career stats are better than Josh McCown’s. If you have a backup that’s good enough to be a starter, there are at least six teams who should have been banging on your door for a trade earlier this year, since their starter isn’t good enough to be a starter.

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Is every other STARTING job a crapshoot too? Y’all know Rodgers is healthy, they just don’t want to start him behind that offensive offensive line. The Packers defense is historically bad too. Why are the packers 0-4-1 in their last 5 games? Surely they should have won at least one of those. Surely.
    —————————–
    I don’t know – I’m not a Packer fan, and not that familiar with their situation. I was specifically talking about QBs. When yours is elite, there’s just no replacing that production. I guess we’ll see how stupid Elway or Belichick are when Manning or Brady get hurt.

  65. mylionsroaring says: Dec 4, 2013 12:31 PM

    Whats really sad about this is how the team seems to have quit on each other. Rodgers doesn’t tackle, or run the ball. The Packers missed tackles is going through the roof. I understand the defense might get tired, but they have quit early on in games too. This team could have won a few games if everyone was doing their job on defense, and if the offense was doing the same thing, like catching the ball when it did make it to them they would still be in the hunt. This from a Lions fan whose team leads the league in drops so I know a little about that.

  66. purplehaze28 says: Dec 4, 2013 12:46 PM

    AWWWW,
    …and he league changed the football just for him a few years ago, to make it more arrow dynamic and take advantage of his limp-wristed throwing style…

  67. imjinrat says: Dec 4, 2013 12:51 PM

    “Don’t see the Vikings fans calling for tanking.”
    ________________________________

    Viking fans don’t have to call for them to tank. They do it on their own.

  68. aldante66 says: Dec 4, 2013 12:52 PM

    LIke another poster I’m a little puzzeld by ‘its early yet’. He had test late Tueday, was not cleared, surely would need several days practice time, real practice time, for a Sunday game. Where is he getting the their is a lot of time yet from?

    If I was a betting man I’d say no way he plays. He is done for the season unless they win without him on Sunday.

  69. aldante66 says: Dec 4, 2013 12:54 PM

    One thing about teh Vikes braintrust and they have the best brain trusts in the league: all their back ups, were starters at one time or another. They rarely have an unproven guy come in off the bench.
    The pack have Tolzien who has no NFL experience in actual games so he is learning on the fly and that seldom works for guys that went undrafted.

  70. supermariojosh says: Dec 4, 2013 12:58 PM

    All the people comparing the Vikings and Bears injury situation to the Packers’ are kind of funny. The Bears and Vikings are both REALLY BAD right now. As bad as the Packers? Maybe not. But it’s already been established that the Bears and Vikes have a better QB situation right now, which is what has allowed them to win a game or two. By comparing the Bears and Vikes situation to the Packers, you’re actually proving the point: It’s damn near impossible to win when your team is completely gutted with injuries.

    Really puts perspective on the Packers’ 2010 Super Bowl run.

  71. aldante66 says: Dec 4, 2013 12:59 PM

    Dec 4, 2013 10:51 AM
    Vikings never tank for draft picks?

    Someone actually said that and was serious?

    They don’t HAVE to tank to get high draft picks, going all out for the Vikings puts them drafting somewhere 1-15 every year anyway.

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    You mean like in just this last draft where they first picked 22 overall?

    Typical Packer fan, cant do anything right. Even talking trash is above your skill sets. Pathetic…

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    Not a Vikes fan but they always out draft every other team: Paterson, Pederson, Kahill, Smith, Rhodes, Walsh, Gerhart…….. they do it by getting rid of guys before they turn to deadwood and getting top picks in exchange: Harvin, Winfield, Rice all got traded and all went bust but the Vikes got 1st and second rounders for these guys.

  72. aldante66 says: Dec 4, 2013 1:02 PM

    The Packers are injury laden year after year because: Ted Thompson has a penchant for drafting very late round picks who played for divIA and II teams, were smallish, slow, and injury prone.
    Guys 31 OTHER TEAMS passed over more than once. Most of them would not be third stringers on any other team.
    the team is soft because it drafts soft players.

  73. duece5 says: Dec 4, 2013 1:22 PM

    Carl Gerbschmidt says: Dec 4, 2013 10:58 AM

    Thanks for all the brilliant analysis vike fans, yeah, our team is not as good when our All-Pro, future hall of fame QB is hurt. Still, I have the utmost confidence in Matt now that he has a few snaps under his belt. He’ll take care of business this week against Atlanta and then ARodg can take us the rest of the way.
    Go. Pack. Go

    duece5 says:

    Carl, you can’t be serious about Flynn……HE IS TERRIBLE and your oline is absolutely abysmal.

    Practice won’t help, you need better players on the oline, most your defense is horrid.

    Yikes, you guys are worse than my Vikes…..0-5-1 is a reality.

  74. johngaltwho says: Dec 4, 2013 1:24 PM

    Its true – Thompson gambled and lost this year and it hurt the Packers dearly. That having been said, hopefully, management can learn from this experiment. The defense is not good enough, with or without Rodgers, to compete for a championship. Sure, we can win the NFC North with Rodgers and a bunch of middle schoolers but hey, its the Bears, Lions and Vikings – so thats not sayin much. The Packers need to recognize that they need to use more tools than draft and develop. We need free agency and judicious trades. Sure, Seattle and San Fran are all smug and proud now and think they have it all figured out but they are cycle teams – not perennial winners. Their two quarterbacks are both the lowest paid starters in the NFL right now, so they have a window of opportunity; lets see how they look in 3 years. I think Capers needs to go and Ted needs to evolve for the Packers to become a team that realistically hopes to put a championship caliber team on the field. They’ve gotten lazy with the success of Rodgers and the lack of serious competition in their own division.

  75. duece5 says: Dec 4, 2013 1:25 PM

    teal379 says: Nov 19, 2013 5:59 PM
    If/when the Packers smoke the Vikings – what’s the storyline then?
    What/how do Viking fans even look themselves in the mirror?
    Gloat all you want – GB struggles without their HOF QB (2nd one in a row and that’s just got to hurt) but what is the Vikings excuse? You have your HOF RB and had 3 first round picks last draft in the game.
    GB beats you with a practice squad QB and then what?
    Fraiser get’s canned? Just like when GB got Chilly fired? Seems to be a history there.

    duece5 says:

    Uhh teal379 your prediction was NOT true……what happens now?!

    I hope one thing is true…..Frazier should be fired.

  76. packerbadger says: Dec 4, 2013 1:58 PM

    Well, at least the Vikings didn’t lose all four of their Super Bowls in a row like Buffalo did. At least that got that going for them; but they are still 0-4 in Super Bowl appearances and still have no Championships. I guess that would make the Vikings 0-For Life then eh?

  77. ejmat2 says: Dec 4, 2013 2:10 PM

    As a Viking fan, the Packers are better than the Vikings hands down with AR. There’s no doubt. The guy is one of, if not, the best QB in the NFL. However, without him, the Packers are no better and may even be a little worse than the Vikings.

    We can complain about injuries. The Vikings have them too. Their entire starting DBs have been hurt most of the year. LBs have been hurt. Injuries happen. Packer fans should know. They won a superbowl having many injuries. There are no excuses. A season is a season and this year just isn’t a good one for Viking or Packer fans.

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