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Ryan Clark takes another shot at Goodell over Tomlin discipline

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As the great Vincent LaGuardia Gambini once muttered under his breath to Judge Herman Munster, “There’s a f–kin’ surprise.”

Steelers safety Ryan Clark, who if the league office were handing out $100 bills would complain that they aren’t sufficiently crisp, has griped about the punishment imposed on coach Mike Tomlin for his Thanksgiving night side-step right.

Asked by Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review whether Clark believes it’s fair to delay the decision on stripping a draft pick, Clark said:  “It’s not supposed to be fair.  It’s Roger Goodell.  When has he been fair?

Clark’s disdain for Goodell is preventing him from understanding the fairness inherent in the decision to wait.  Taking a pick without knowing where that pick falls could hurt the Steelers, based on how high they finish in the draft order.  Thus, the most fair outcome to the Steelers would be to wait for the draft order to be established before deciding how to proceed with the final portion of the penalty, which includes a $100,000 fine for Tomlin.

And that’s exactly what Goodell is doing.

In past cases (such as Spygate and Bountygate), the draft pick forfeiture was specified at the time of the penalty.  This provides certainty in the event of potential trades.  Once the trade deadline passes, there’s no reason to make a decision about draft-pick forfeiture or modification until the final order is set.

In this regard, modification becomes an intriguing possibility.  In tampering cases, the draft-pick penalty included a flip-flopping of picks between the teams involved.  Based on where the Steelers and Ravens pick, Pittsburgh may not lose a draft pick; the Steelers may simply have a pick downgraded.

Regardless, the potential modification or forfeiture of draft picks constitutes a significant penalty for the Steelers, far more significant than a six-figure fine.  One Steelers source told PFT over the weekend that the team would prefer a one-game suspension of Tomlin to the loss of draft picks.

How big of a deal would it be for the Steelers to lose a late-round pick?  Receiver Antonio Brown was a sixth-round pick.

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  1. thepftpoet says: Dec 4, 2013 2:26 PM

    Still a better love story than twilight

  2. koenig61 says: Dec 4, 2013 2:32 PM

    The list of fans who hate the Steelers is very long, but tell me the list of Fans who Hate Goodell isn’t just as long? Plus there are plenty of Players who agree with Clarks assesment of Goodell. The way the office hands out fines, and what they hand them out for (Socks, shoes etc) makes no sense. Add in the Factor that the league is hypocritical when it comes to safety. The league tells defenders intent doesn’t matter when it comes to hitting a receiver or QB, and even if the receiver or QB moves, the defenders can still not hit them around the head or Neck. Flash forward to Leveon Bell and he is speared from two different directions, and no fine, because the league says there was no “Intent” on the two defenders two spear belle, because they did not line up the hit? What are players and fans to think about Goodell?

  3. dudesthisisthebest says: Dec 4, 2013 2:32 PM

    Taking away a draft pick for an in game penalty might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Kick Tomlin out of the game, award Jones a touchdown, whatever, but penalize them during the game for something that happened IN THE GAME. Don’t go making a bold statement because you’re refs screwed up Rog.

  4. reed20fence says: Dec 4, 2013 2:33 PM

    It’s not about just Tomlin and his intent or lack thereof. If all a coach has to fear for placing himself as an obstacle on the sideline is a measley 100k fine that’ll simply be wiped away with a contract tweak by his franchise, it’s a small and worthwhile price to pay when it happens to impact a game with playoff implications, worth millions to the franchise.

    An example has to be set with draft picks, otherwise all that stands in the way of coaches and future tampering is a few bucks. In other words, nothing stands in their way (pun intended).

  5. jobotjones says: Dec 4, 2013 2:35 PM

    How big of a deal would it be for the Steelers to lose a late-round pick? Receiver Antonio Brown was a sixth-round pick.

    —-

    Ryan Leaf is on line 1 there Mike….

  6. doctorrustbelt says: Dec 4, 2013 2:35 PM

    The pittsburgh steelers are a low character franchise with a low character locker room.

    5 wins – 7 losses

    Wins against 4-8 Buffalo, 4-8 Cleveland, and 5-7 NY Jets.

    Losses to 3-8-1 Minnesota, 4-8 Oakland, and 5-7 Tennessee.

    LOL!!!

  7. SmashMouthFootball says: Dec 4, 2013 2:35 PM

    Nice Clark. Way to keep the story alive a little bit longer. I don’t like the Steelers but I’m getting sick of it and I’m definitely sick of Ryan Clark.

  8. athwartships says: Dec 4, 2013 2:36 PM

    This story is like the gift that won’t stop giving.

    Part of me hopes the rest of the orginaztion would take a que from Tomlin’s statement of no more discussion of the topic….

    …While the other part of me knows it will continue anyways.

  9. caseyanthonymunoz says: Dec 4, 2013 2:36 PM

    Steelers = Cheating. It’s always been that way. They practically invented PED usage in the NFL. Their team doctor literally would shoot up players at their facility. Google Dr. Rydze.

    Tainted titles, tainted team.

    Sorry, truth hurts.

  10. gimmeabruschi says: Dec 4, 2013 2:37 PM

    Fines and suspensions mean little. Draft picks are everything.

  11. ilovefoolsball says: Dec 4, 2013 2:37 PM

    I went to school with Ryan Clark. I can’t believe he’s still playing in the league.

    But who cares about that. The deal is that Tomlin should be suspended for at least the rest of the season for doing what he did.

    If they were going to suspend the Saints head coach for some mythical bounty stuff that didn’t stand up to scrutiny then what Tomlin did should be at least the rest of this season.

    They’re lucky they’re getting off so light but the draft picks should hit them where it hurts because this team is old already.

  12. footballfan01 says: Dec 4, 2013 2:41 PM

    Goodell’s regime is the best thing that’s happened to the NFL since the goal posts were moved to the back of the endzone.

  13. watchdawg1103 says: Dec 4, 2013 2:41 PM

    I have no problem with the fine, but really don’t see much point in losing a draft pick seeing as the offending team lost. Swapping picks if it benefits Baltimore may even be ok, but I don’t think they should lose one all together in this particular instance.

  14. thinredline69 says: Dec 4, 2013 2:41 PM

    This comment has nothing to do with the Steelers, but Roger Goodell in general:

    He’s the most despicable, narcissistic “commissioner” this league has ever known.

    He knows it, the players know it, and the fans know it, which is why he’s so widely disrespected.

  15. greenwhodat26 says: Dec 4, 2013 2:42 PM

    What would have happened if when Jacoby Jones went to dodge Tomlin(because he obviously had to) and his cleat gets caught in the turf and he blows a knee out??? Tomlin should have his figurative head taken off by the league for that. He should be suspended at least for some games, a huge fine And at least a 2nd round draft pick should be taken. You took away our coach for a whole season for a reason that basically came out to be more hearsay than actual facts. This guy really could’ve ended a career, but its ok because he’s the HC for the Steelers…

  16. britishraven says: Dec 4, 2013 2:42 PM

    I’m sure Ryan Clark would make the same statement if it was Harbaugh who had impeded a Steelers player…

  17. harrisonhits2 says: Dec 4, 2013 2:43 PM

    I think its nuts to take a draft pick over this from any round.

    The refs blew it and didn’t flag him. They’re just as much at fault for this problem as Tomlin. Thrown the flag, just another penalty, the game goes on.

    For everybody crying for Tomlin to be suspended, for draft picks to be taken you’d better be careful what you wish for.

    Think about this. Tomlin committed a 15 yard penalty. That’s it. Possibly the refs could have rewarded a TD to the Ravens, that’s as far as it could have gone.

    So what happens now when somebody commits a 15 yard roughing penalty on the other team’s QB. Should the league take a draft pick for that ? The players making those hits certainly know better just as Tomlin certainly knew better.

    It’s insanity to set the precedent.

  18. duece5 says: Dec 4, 2013 2:44 PM

    Ouch!!!!

    Don’t mess with Goodell!!!!!!

  19. ProFootballTalkSucks says: Dec 4, 2013 2:44 PM

    Clark is correct. Fines and punishments are doled out in a completely arbitrary manner by this idiot. And destroying evidence during SpyGate was suspicious to say the very least. I wouldn’t expect Goodell to be in any way fair to a team that’s been a thorn in his side for years.

  20. bigjdve says: Dec 4, 2013 2:44 PM

    Wasn’t it Ray Anderson that handed down the fine? How is that Goodell?

  21. icebowler says: Dec 4, 2013 2:46 PM

    Tomlin was just innocently doing his Anti-Touchdown Dance.

  22. wheels579 says: Dec 4, 2013 2:46 PM

    The difference here in regard to a potential loss of draft pick(s) is this was a error in judgment by one individual without any evidence of support from upper management. The Patriots and Saints forfeited draft picks/priority due to conspiracy among multiple levels of their organizations, i.e., lack of institutional control. Tomlin used bad judgment, broke rules, therefore Tomlin should be held accountable. If the NFL wants to make a further example out of him, then suspend him. Nobody has explained WHY draft pick/priority forfeiture is relevant to this incident. Baltimore didn’t lose the game and it can’t be assumed that their margin of victory would be any greater had a touchdown been granted to Jones, which was an error by the officials and not Tomlin for calling no foul. No reparations are ever given for bad officiating. Taking away draft picks/priority therefore is illogical and sets bad precedent.

  23. jetsjetsjetsnow says: Dec 4, 2013 2:46 PM

    Unintentional my arse….
    How can this not be at least a game suspension for Chesire TomCat?

    Slap on the wrist…

  24. scrp2 says: Dec 4, 2013 2:47 PM

    Can Todd Haley be interim coach until this is all sorted out?

  25. rando74 says: Dec 4, 2013 2:48 PM

    seriously? a draft pick. that’s garbage. hit him in the wallet and suspend him for a game.come on.

  26. journeyman36 says: Dec 4, 2013 2:48 PM

    I have no problem with what Clark said. Goodell isn’t fair. See bountygate, player suspensions, fines, etc. Goodell is bad for the NFL, and Clark has every right to say so.

  27. usmutts says: Dec 4, 2013 2:49 PM

    “… the fairness inherent in the decision to wait.”

    Why can’t the Steelers get the same fairness that the Saints got from Goodell? No waiting, no fairness in punishment, no evidence, no fair hearings, nothing but lying to the media and creating a firestorm of misinformation and fraudulent publicity about the Saints, which caused a backlash against the Saints that persists even today ( as you will see from the barrage of thumbs down soon to follow this posting ).

    But no, Roger will wait and be fair to the Steelers.

  28. thestrategyexpert says: Dec 4, 2013 2:49 PM

    There was no practical way for the NFL to come up with a perfect punishment for this situation. This is an evolving case situation that nobody knows what the full amendments will be that bring up total reconciliation over the entire matter. That could take several more months, and could become a much more complicated issue down the road depending on how things play out in terms of new information that surfaces or actions by others that trigger more review.

  29. godofwine330 says: Dec 4, 2013 2:50 PM

    Goodell has never been fair. All of these 5 figure fines on players are ridiculous. Most are not intentional or egregious, and many were flagged, and many are unavoidable considering the rate of speed the player involved is traveling. So why don’t they flag for holding, false start, offsides, or defensive holding?

    The fine on Coach Tomlin is fair because coaches are held to a higher standard, though I believe it would have been more had the Steelers won and it could be argued that the interference robbed the Ravens of a touchdown, however a draft pick is too much. When Bud Adams gave the middle finger he was fined more than Vick was for doing the same thing.

  30. CKL says: Dec 4, 2013 2:56 PM

    So Ryan Clark who 6 years later still whines about cameragate doesn’t have the same standards of “fairness” when it comes to his own coach? Let me echo Vincent LaGuardia Gambini’s sentiment above.

    I do not like Tomlin’s personality but I can be fair minded, unlike Mr. Clark. I think it would be outrageous if Pitt lost a draft pick or if the team got fined. They should leave consequences like those for organizational wrongdoing. This was the act of one person. Tomlin did something on the field that was wrong, he’s a competition committee member so the fine should be extra punitive, but he didn’t harm anyone nor can anyone show proof that whether he did it on purpose or not, he affected the play. If he had tripped Jones, I’d say you look at a suspension without pay for HIM only, again, nothing on the team or draft picks taken.

  31. joemammy says: Dec 4, 2013 2:56 PM

    Tomlin my be a cheater, but at least he’s handling it like a man. Maybe Clark should just shut up and learn something from this.

    Like how to accept blame and deal with consequences.

  32. pooflingingmonkey says: Dec 4, 2013 2:57 PM

    Two utes?

    /obligatory

  33. steelcurtainn says: Dec 4, 2013 3:02 PM

    Roger God-ell should be fined for being a lousy commissioner. He’s the worst commissioner in NFL history.

  34. arwiv says: Dec 4, 2013 3:04 PM

    As a Giants fan, I couldn’t care less about the steelers, tomlin, or ryan clark. However, to strip a team of a draft pick (the most valuable commodity in the game) is out of control and way over the top. You guys may hate the steelers, but think if this had happened to your team.

    If the steelers do lose any pick then the commish should not be in charge of this sport anymore as he would be clearly out of control.
    This would be like sentencing a guy to two years in jail for stealing a gallon of milk…..its ridiculous.

  35. reglidan says: Dec 4, 2013 3:06 PM

    Clark is probably right. A better way to have handled it would have been for the referee to stop the play and award the Ravens a touchdown or, if the violation was more egregious, (ie the head coach of a team actually tackling a player of the opposing team on the field of play), force the Steelers to forfeit the game.

    Fines will not make anyone think twice. Even taking a draft pick won’t. Pretty much the only thing that would make someone truly think twice is a real ramification for that action – like impacting the team’s wins and loss record.

  36. mogogo1 says: Dec 4, 2013 3:07 PM

    “Nobody has explained WHY draft pick/priority forfeiture is relevant to this incident. ”
    ____________

    Because it’s the one thing that will really send a message and get people’s attention. NFL teams are made of money, so any fine is irrelevant to them. Suspending Tomlin would be a good punishment but it’s sheer luck it was somebody really important involved–the assistant strength coach could just as easily been the one who did this.

    This sort of thing simply cannot be allowed. And the penalty needs to be so draconian nobody will ever consider it again.

  37. stillayinzer says: Dec 4, 2013 3:09 PM

    What would have happened if when Jacoby Jones went to dodge Tomlin(because he obviously had to) and his cleat gets caught in the turf and he blows a knee out??? Tomlin should have his figurative head taken off by the league for that. He should be suspended at least for some games, a huge fine And at least a 2nd round draft pick should be taken. You took away our coach for a whole season for a reason that basically came out to be more hearsay than actual facts. This guy really could’ve ended a career, but its ok because he’s the HC for the Steelers…

    - Wow! Now Tomlin is ending careers lol… This the drama only a middle aged woman could come up with. What if? What if? What if? Geez… What if Tomlin’s calculated misstep caused Jones to get so nervous he fell over with a heart attack? Tomlin would be a murderer!

  38. LiteBodies says: Dec 4, 2013 3:09 PM

    Ryan Clark: You’ve got way too much game to become another “Cryin Ryan” – just take it in stride. If your coaches actions hurt the team then perhaps he’s not the man for the job!

  39. dickroy says: Dec 4, 2013 3:11 PM

    I guess Clark just got fined too.

  40. cornerstone2001 says: Dec 4, 2013 3:11 PM

    Clark should get fined for having Diarrhea of the mouth…..

  41. it's all bs says: Dec 4, 2013 3:13 PM

    hey haters…..cry me a river….Shh… hear that? i’m playing the world’s saddest song on the world’s smallest violin…..Ha Ha Ha!!!

    love,
    Steeler Nation

  42. 1964bclions says: Dec 4, 2013 3:13 PM

    How about this… Take a the top two picks away from The Steelers..

    But… DO NOT take the top two picks away from the fans.

    On Draft Day… Via a remote roving camera drive around to different Pittsburgh bars. When the Steelers go on the clock, pick a random drunk fan and let him make the pick for the team, live on TV.

    It would be great theatre.

  43. queeflatifah says: Dec 4, 2013 3:14 PM

    Maybe if tomlin brought along Marisa tomei to argue that he lacked posi traction and couldnt maintain the sideline, he could’ve gotten off

  44. clssylssy says: Dec 4, 2013 3:14 PM

    Total and complete BS! I’m not even a Steeler fan but the extreme fine and possible loss of draft picks is inconsistent and out of line with the concept of the punishment fitting the crime. Meanwhile, the Dolphins situation has been swept under the rug, least it effect their playoff hopes, and the suspended player given a PAID vacation while “on leave”. Officials are becoming more bold with their egregious calls every week with ZERO accountability! What’s wrong with this picture Mr. Commish? I don’t know of too many companies that would survive this sort of incompetant management without a change in the people at the top. The NFL needs to clean house and start over!

  45. dryzzt23 says: Dec 4, 2013 3:15 PM

    Fair? Life is not fair?

    Is it fair that players (aka employees aka contractors) sue the very league that they play for, over injuries that they KNOW that they will suffer, but they claim ignorance and want to be paid which drives up costs on everyone EXCEPT the player themselves.

  46. dietrich43 says: Dec 4, 2013 3:15 PM

    Said this in another thread. They’ll make the Ravens and Steelers switch fourth rounders, assuming the Ravens finish with a later pick that the Steelers.

    How big a deal is it lose a late pick? Limas Sweed was a second; is that pick more valuable than the one they used on Brown? Every team hits on a few late rounders and misses on more early picks.

    NFL has handed down $100k fines to coaches four other times. Hoodie for spygate. Sean Payton for bountygate. Mike Tice for selling his superbowl tickets. And Wade Wilson for taking PED’s.

  47. flaccodelic says: Dec 4, 2013 3:17 PM

    So when it first comes up, Clark takes a jab at the Patriots. As if they had anything to do with Tomlin’s decision or idiocy to step on the field and affect the game.

    Then the punishment comes up, and he takes a jab at the Commissioner. As if he had anything to do with Tomlin’s decision or idiocy to step on the field and affect the game.

    Let’s see, who else can we blame for Tomlin’s decision or idiocy to step on the field and affect the game? Stay tuned!

  48. flaccodelic says: Dec 4, 2013 3:19 PM

    it’s all bs says:
    Dec 4, 2013 3:13 PM
    hey haters…..cry me a river….Shh… hear that? i’m playing the world’s saddest song on the world’s smallest violin…..Ha Ha Ha!!!

    love,
    Steeler Nation

    Are you talking about Ryan Clark? He’s the only one I hear crying.

  49. thestrategyexpert says: Dec 4, 2013 3:21 PM

    clssylssy:

    Well if the NFL had a good system of officiating and person to oversee it, then yeah we wouldn’t have to worry about stuff like this. Sounds good to me. Blandino is even worse than Perreira was, and Perreira was awful. Every time Blandino goes on TV he can’t get through his segment without sounding really stupid and ignorant and completely out of touch with everything that is happening. He can’t analyze anything or break anything down with a systematic and rational logic, and he’s just in way over his head with this job. I think he is the very worst employee that the NFL has today, even worse than Goodell. I am one of that last guys to ever say anything good about Goodell, but at least he doesn’t technically fail at 100% of everything he does. He is actually useful for some of his job tasks.

    But Blandino, man this is the worst person employed by the NFL that I can remember in a long time. Maybe all-time worst hire by the league on a technical basis not considering obviously the value of a more prominent position such as Commissioner which isn’t a fair comparison.

    They need to get rid of him and get a good Supervisor, in addition to overhauling the entire officiating system. Blandino has no useful ideas.

  50. jamaltimore says: Dec 4, 2013 3:24 PM

    For all those who think Tomlin did nothing wrong the spread was ravens -3 in most markets. He saved the team 4 points meaning instead of 26-20 the final score was 22-20?

    I know it’s not that simple but sometimes it is. Tie that into the rooneys connection to GAMBLING and sometimes maybe perception is reality….. Or better yet tie that to a man who’s team is about to kiss the playoffs goodbye for two straight seasons.

    On that same note I wonder what the odds of a Headcoach just Randomly BY ACCIDENT stepping onto the field just a split second before the other teams KR is getting ready to pass by that exact spot on his way to a Touchdown? No way it was coincidence and if nothing else the guy should have to coach from the press box for the remainder of the season since he’s TOO accident prone and may just stumble on to the field.

  51. rhamrhoddy says: Dec 4, 2013 3:25 PM

    Of course the Steelers would prefer a one game suspension to a lost draft pick.

    Suspending a coach for a game in a season when they are doubtful to make the playoffs is less of a punishment than stripping a draft pick that would affect future seasons. I hate Pittsburgh but loss of a draft pick or a suspension is too much for this.

    That said, I love all the finger pointing these days. I don’t know what team you root for but whoever it is, it’s a team full of dirty filthy cheaters trying to get an edge. Know why? Because there’s millions of additional dollars waiting to be scooped by successful teams in this league. Get over it.

  52. denverwally says: Dec 4, 2013 3:31 PM

    Spygate was nothing more than taping defensive coach signals right out in the open in front of 70,000 people that everybody knew was happening, including the coaches being taped, and which would have been perfectly legal from the stands as opposed to the sideline. It was easily mitigated by changing your signals, as most coaches did.

    Tomlin stepped into the field of play, influencing an actual play taking place, possibly stopping points from going up on the board. If you Steeler rump swabs cannot see the difference in that, then you are totally drinking the Rooney Kool-Aid.

  53. thingamajig says: Dec 4, 2013 3:41 PM

    No Steelers fan but how can you fine someone 100K and take away a team’s draft choice on something that wasn’t even flagged during the game. Guess we’ll have to wait a few days to find out how much the refs will be fined.

  54. johnnycamparm says: Dec 4, 2013 3:43 PM

    You don’t need to take draft picks. All you have to do is have these types of plays reviewable, if not immediately caught by the refs. If they catch someone where they’re not supposed to be, award the opposing team a touchdown, kick the offender out of the game, fine them $100,000 and suspend them for another game or 2. This would fix everything. No coach or player would do this if the other team would be awarded the touchdown.

  55. johnnythek1 says: Dec 4, 2013 3:44 PM

    OK, I’m a Ravens fan. But I might be the only one who doesn’t think Tomlin is a cheater for one very obvious reason that I don’t see being talked about: How could he have possibly thought he would get away with it? Under what circumstances did he possibly think he could physically impede the progress of an opposing player and not be observed by the 50 or so cameras, both network and freelance, that were present?

    I’m sorry, even a Steeler wouldn’t be that stupid. Fine him, yes, because it affected the game. But strip the Steelers of draft picks? Overkill.

  56. guitarkevin says: Dec 4, 2013 3:45 PM

    I’m a Ravens fan and this story has gone beyond stupid. The Ravens won and Tomlin got a fine.

    Let’s call it a day already.

  57. ghostrider45 says: Dec 4, 2013 3:46 PM

    but…but…. but… we have 6 rings. Hahahahahahahhahahaahahahhahahaha

  58. bunkmcnulty says: Dec 4, 2013 3:46 PM

    Never enough “My Cousin Vinnie” references.

  59. wheels579 says: Dec 4, 2013 3:46 PM

    “Because it’s the one thing that will really send a message and get people’s attention. NFL teams are made of money, so any fine is irrelevant to them. ”

    Why fine anybody then? Most punishments from the league are fines. Name another instance where the NFL took away a draft pick for the actions of one individual without any evidence of support or influence by his superiors that did not involve a suspension? This situation was exacerbated by the failure of officials to issue a penalty for an in-game rules violation, so the league reacts by considering to strip a draft pick or priority WITHOUT suspending the offender? Sal Alosi was fined $25,000 and suspended for remainder of 2010 season which amounted to about three games. People need to ask the league why Tomlin has not been suspended based on precedent and why draft pick/priority forfeiture is being considered when their own refs failed to act accordingly. There’s a story there somewhere if PFT cares to investigate.

  60. doctorrustbelt says: Dec 4, 2013 3:48 PM

    dr. rydze

  61. pastabelly says: Dec 4, 2013 3:49 PM

    footballfan01 says:
    Dec 4, 2013 2:41 PM
    Goodell’s regime is the best thing that’s happened to the NFL since the goal posts were moved to the back of the endzone.
    =================================
    I doubt that. Gooddell has been along for the ride. Since 1973, the NFL has introduced prime time football, become the number one sport in the USA, and gone through periods of expansion. I struggle to come up with any substantial and positive changes since Goodell took over. Maybe you could list his greatest accomplishments.

  62. ravensterps says: Dec 4, 2013 3:51 PM

    The NFL essentially legalized cheating with this slap on the wrist. If I’m in a close game in Week 17 that decides if my team goes to the playoffs or not, I’m taking the 100k fine and the playoffs.

  63. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 4, 2013 3:51 PM

    They’re waiting to see when the Steelers are eliminated from playoff contention before they decide to strip them of the pick. If they miss the playoffs, they WON’T strip them of any pick. You can believe that.

  64. koenig61 says: Dec 4, 2013 3:55 PM

    footbalfan01
    Goodell’s regime is the best thing that’s happened to the NFL since the goal posts were moved to the back of the endzone.

    Arent you the same who posted yesterday “Eexecute Tomlins kids in front of him.”? Yeah I’ll take what you post with a grain of salt.

  65. ike1973 says: Dec 4, 2013 3:56 PM

    Take away a draft pick and you won’t see this happen again. If no pick taken away I guarantee this will happen again. Probably multiple times. $100K is nothing to these guys.

  66. jmac1013 says: Dec 4, 2013 4:03 PM

    Ryan Clark should play all of his games in Denver.

  67. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 4, 2013 4:04 PM

    Tomlin appeared genuinely surprised when Jones got close to him. Why is this still top news a week later?

  68. peymax1693 says: Dec 4, 2013 4:04 PM

    It’s not about just Tomlin and his intent or lack thereof. If all a coach has to fear for placing himself as an obstacle on the sideline is a measley 100k fine that’ll simply be wiped away with a contract tweak by his franchise, it’s a small and worthwhile price to pay when it happens to impact a game with playoff implications, worth millions to the franchise.

    An example has to be set with draft picks, otherwise all that stands in the way of coaches and future tampering is a few bucks. In other words, nothing stands in their way (pun intended).

    I can’t see equating what Tomlin did with bountygate and spygate. Those were coordinated attempts by multiple people within each organization to circumvent the rules. What Tomlin did seemed like a spur-of-the-moment boneheaded move. As such, I don’t think it’s fair to the Steeler organization to penalize them for Tomlin’s actions.

  69. Nofoolnodrool says: Dec 4, 2013 4:08 PM

    Spygate was nothing more than taping defensive coach signals right out in the open in front of 70,000 people that everybody knew was happening, including the coaches being taped, and which would have been perfectly legal from the stands as opposed to the sideline. It was easily mitigated by changing your signals, as most coaches did.

    Tomlin stepped into the field of play, influencing an actual play taking place, possibly stopping points from going up on the board. If you Steeler rump swabs cannot see the difference in that, then you are totally drinking the Rooney Kool-Aid.

    Chief Rump Swab here at your service Wally. Key word in your feeble explanation…..POSSIBLY. Right next to if as a word that kills a valid argument. Try the oxygen mask at thirty minute intervals Wally it may clear up your thinking…good luck or you may have to move to sea level to
    Re establish your logic.

  70. koenig61 says: Dec 4, 2013 4:11 PM

    Why do people keep saying that this wont stop anyone from doing it again? The NFL has said if Tomlin had stopped Jacoby Jones from scoring they would award the team a TD. Tomlin didnt stop Jones from scoring, (Jones never broke stride, he was going to get caught by Cortez Allen no matter what Tomlin did) Posters keep saying, if they were in that situation with a chance to win a game or go to a SB, they would tackle the guy take the 100K fine and go to the playoffs. You do realize thats ridiculous, because the league has already said the team would be awared a TD. After seeing the film and seeing Tomlin go stand in that exact spot BEFORE the ball was kicked off, how can anyone believe Tomlin knew Jones would be at that exact spot 65 yards later? If Tomlin could see into the fture I’m sure their record would be better than 5-7

  71. peymax1693 says: Dec 4, 2013 4:12 PM

    denverwally says: Dec 4, 2013 3:31 PM

    Spygate was nothing more than taping defensive coach signals right out in the open in front of 70,000 people that everybody knew was happening, including the coaches being taped, and which would have been perfectly legal from the stands as opposed to the sideline. It was easily mitigated by changing your signals, as most coaches did.

    Tomlin stepped into the field of play, influencing an actual play taking place, possibly stopping points from going up on the board. If you Steeler rump swabs cannot see the difference in that, then you are totally drinking the Rooney Kool-Aid.

    So what your saying is the Pats did nothing wrong and willingly accepted Goodell’s punishment of forfeiting a first round draft pick and $750,000 in fines without question simply out of the goodness of their heart? What Kool-Aid are you drinking?

  72. bigbensucks says: Dec 4, 2013 4:35 PM

    Bu Bu But……..The Stoolers have six rings. How dare the NFL fine the HC and possibly take away a draft pick because the Stoolers have six rings. This can’t be possible. Did I mention the Stoolers have six rings?

    You will never see #7

    ROTF LMAO

  73. mizzousooner says: Dec 4, 2013 4:39 PM

    The Pittsville Steroids.

  74. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 4, 2013 4:44 PM

    Gotta love Patriots fans using this to deflect Spygate…

  75. olcap says: Dec 4, 2013 4:46 PM

    Ryan Clark – good safety.
    Intelligent? – Not so much.

  76. olcap says: Dec 4, 2013 4:51 PM

    bigbensucks says: Dec 4, 2013 4:35 PM

    Bu Bu But……..The Stoolers have six rings. How dare the NFL fine the HC and possibly take away a draft pick because the Stoolers have six rings. This can’t be possible. Did I mention the Stoolers have six rings?

    You will never see #7

    ROTF LMAO
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    Actually, Tomlin is an NFL plant and his act on Thanksgiving is all part of a design to keep the Stealers* from getting number 7 this year.

    I will call the team that now, since Tomlin has not been fired.

  77. originalsteelcurtain says: Dec 4, 2013 4:51 PM

    The NFL use to be a simple game, the best game in the world.

    Czar Goodell changes the rules every year. At times, I don’t even know what I am watching. Why ruin a great game…it didn’t need “fixing”?

    “LeVeon Bell scores a TD…no wait, his helmet exploded off of his head in mid-air, due to an illegal hit, which wasn’t flagged…so the TD does not count…Steeler ball on the 1 yard line”.

    Clark is correct: Goodell is far too meddlesome in his agenda-filled ways, and way too inconsistent in doling out punishment.

  78. fiesable says: Dec 4, 2013 4:55 PM

    Since when is taking away a draft pick before handing out suspensions the proper way to handle infractions in the NFL? If that’s the case then considering this situation, every time there is a 12 men on the field penalty, that team should forfeit a draft pick… better hope you don’t get called for 7 of those in a season because you’ll have a long off-season!

  79. originalsteelcurtain says: Dec 4, 2013 5:01 PM

    Goodell’s NFL of the future will likely include lawyers, who will dispute controversial calls.

    Maybe each team will have 2 lawyer challenges per half.

    Nerf-covered helmets? Flag football?

    I can’t wait to see what else this Clown has in store to “fix” the NFL!

  80. Deb says: Dec 4, 2013 5:04 PM

    The inherent fairness in Goodell’s decision to wait? Come on. Nothing about taking draft picks from a team because of the idiotic, spontaneous behavior of one individual is fair. Fine Tomlin. Suspend Tomlin. But don’t penalize the team because one individual did something stupid without the team’s knowledge or involvement. This is ridiculous.

  81. jr4real says: Dec 4, 2013 5:53 PM

    Hilarious that anyone would mention Spygate and Bountygate in the same sentence as this.

    Those were systematic, years-long plans to cheat at the game. This was some fool who walked onto the field once.

  82. dcstinks says: Dec 4, 2013 5:55 PM

    Clark, taking a cheap shot? Say it ain’t so.

  83. edavidberg says: Dec 4, 2013 6:17 PM

    To me you only take away a draft pick if you find it was intentional. Otherwise a fine and game suspension is enough.

    I think it was clearly intentional and I think a sixth round pick is appropriate. Certainly no higher than that. To take away a likely touchdown like that affects the integrity of the game and a draft pick is warranted in my opinion. Then we can be assurred no coach ismgoing to try it again.

  84. granadafan says: Dec 4, 2013 7:21 PM

    Clark is way off base. In no way was Tomlin’s actions acceptable, sporting, or fair. We were taught sportsmanship at an early age and you don’t do blatantly cheating things like tackling someone by the groin or enter the field when you’re on the sidelines.

  85. mindset839 says: Dec 4, 2013 8:20 PM

    I personally like Tomlin but he really screwed up and the punishment should be swift and harsh. The 100k fine is big for a coach, which it should be, but it isn’t enough. At a minimum, he Steelers should forfeit a third or fourth round pick. Matbe even a second. The reason the punishment needs to be so harsh is Tomlin’s reaction after the incident. He laughed. He interferes with the game at a critical moment and he laughs. It’s time the Steelers learn that cheating, intentional or not, isn’t a joke.

  86. jacktheraven says: Dec 4, 2013 8:27 PM

    Clark’s bell is still ringing from Ray Rice. He got trucked by Ray in the 3rd quarter. Probably had a concussion and doesn’t realize what he’s saying.

  87. blackngold4life says: Dec 4, 2013 8:38 PM

    Take a 1st or 2nd round pick..Colbert will blow it anyway

  88. firstnovaprime says: Dec 5, 2013 10:47 AM

    Goodell should be banned from the NFL and exiled to Europe. Professional football would be better if this took place.

  89. dallascowboysdishingthereal says: Dec 5, 2013 2:53 PM

    He was fined 100 grr and he deserved it. No problem with Tomlin getting a suspension but not in favor of doing anything to the draft picks.

    Messing with the draft picks only punishes the fans and players who had nothing to do with Tomlin’s stupid stunt.

  90. troy43mvp says: Dec 6, 2013 2:12 PM

    Keep in mind all you Steeler haters. Once they over punish somebody for one thing it will only get worse. Your coach, or assistant, or front office may be the next one the NFL over reacts on. By the way of all of these stories, nobody talks about the refs missing the call that caused the whole poop storm to begin with….

  91. ydousuk says: Dec 6, 2013 3:35 PM

    troy43mvp says:Dec 6, 2013 2:12 PM

    Keep in mind all you Steeler haters. Once they over punish somebody for one thing it will only get worse. Your coach, or assistant, or front office may be the next one the NFL over reacts on. By the way of all of these stories, nobody talks about the refs missing the call that caused the whole poop storm to begin with….
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    No, the refs didn’t start the “poop storm,” the Steelers’ HEAD Coach did when he tried to cheat to change the outcome of the game.

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