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Peyton Manning disputes talk that he’s worse in the cold

Broncos head coach Fox and Manning talk on the sidelines as the game against the Kansas City Chiefs winds down in Denver Reuters

As Titans coach Mike Munchak prepares to face Peyton Manning and the Broncos on Sunday, he thinks the Titans’ chances get better as the weather gets colder. And it’s long been said that Manning freezes on cold days.

But Manning doesn’t see it that way. When the idea that Manning struggles in cold weather was brought up on Wednesday, Manning quickly dismissed it.

That’s not how I feel,” Manning said, via USA Today.

Manning’s teams have a 3-7 record in the 10 games he has played in freezing weather, but then again, most of those games were on the road against playoff opposition. It’s hard to win on the road in the playoffs whether it’s warm or cold, indoors or out.

The two most recent of those losses were the home game against the Ravens in last season’s playoffs, and the road loss at New England two weeks ago. Broncos coach John Fox noted that those were both overtime games that could have gone either way.

“If we won those games, we wouldn’t be talking about weather right now. And we could have easily won either one of those games,” Fox said.

Unfortunately for Fox and Manning, they didn’t win either of those games. The good news for Manning is that this postseason, he has an opportunity to put to bed any talk that he can’t win in the cold, if the Broncos win two cold-weather playoff games and follow that by winning the first-ever cold-weather Super Bowl.

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  1. toybkshr says: Dec 5, 2013 12:07 PM

    Just look at his career record( 2w, 7L ?) in freezing or below freezing temps. That would suggest he is in fact worse in cold weather.

  2. logicalvoicesays says: Dec 5, 2013 12:07 PM

    Top 5 QBs in Professional Football – Griffin III, Rodgers, Stafford, Dalton and Brees. In that order.

  3. wannabear says: Dec 5, 2013 12:10 PM

    Maybe maybe not.

  4. granadafan says: Dec 5, 2013 12:13 PM

    The record doesn’t lie. Manning was also coddled for his whole career in a nice cozy dome with perfect temperatures and no wind.

  5. insley29 says: Dec 5, 2013 12:13 PM

    Unfortunately for Manning and Fox the season doesn’t start in February and end in June.

  6. oakfolk says: Dec 5, 2013 12:13 PM

    Prove it Manning! Continue to put up big numbers in Dec and Jan and help my fantasy team! Please and Thank You!

  7. wryly1 says: Dec 5, 2013 12:18 PM

    The record is what it is, in both inclement weather and postseason. While he’s always put up glitzy regular season stats, Manning has the exact same number of playoff wins as Donovan McNabb – but twice as many losses.

  8. rascalmanny says: Dec 5, 2013 12:23 PM

    Manning doesn’t even have to play this weekend for Denver to beat the Titans.

    Football is a TEAM sport. If Manning had had more defenses that were better, he would have more than one ring.

    He’s still in the top 3 for this year and one of the best of all time. Haters will still hate.

  9. thesteelskirt says: Dec 5, 2013 12:24 PM

    I like Peyton as an elite QB and as a person but the Broncos can’t win the SB if a team can limit Peyton offensively in any form and are able to score td’s instead of field goals when they have the ball.

  10. norseyapper says: Dec 5, 2013 12:24 PM

    Fortunately we don’t have to take anyone’s word for it because we’ll all know the truth soon enough.
    It should be fun to watch.

  11. itsfootballbaby says: Dec 5, 2013 12:42 PM

    The playoff game last year against the Ravens would not have even be close if not for two special teams touchdowns by Trindon Holliday

  12. glac1 says: Dec 5, 2013 12:43 PM

    I like his chances now that dungy isn’t his coach. That will help his cause.

  13. justintuckrule says: Dec 5, 2013 12:44 PM

    I’ll pull for Eli’s brother.

  14. jcmeyer10 says: Dec 5, 2013 12:48 PM

    Ball don’t lie.

  15. cbrown386 says: Dec 5, 2013 12:50 PM

    I really hope the Broncos win the SB in a blizzard just so we can finally stop talking about this.

  16. dryzzt23 says: Dec 5, 2013 12:54 PM

    Manning is from the south, he played in the SEC. It is a scientific fact that players from the south simply cannot play well in imperfect conditions.

  17. theworkhorsebackdotcom says: Dec 5, 2013 12:58 PM

    So Manning is not good outside in the cold similar to how Favre was said to not be great indoors in domes?!?!?

  18. gacoltfan says: Dec 5, 2013 1:01 PM

    dryzzt23 says:
    Dec 5, 2013 12:54 PM

    Manning is from the south, he played in the SEC. It is a scientific fact that players from the south simply cannot play well in imperfect conditions.
    ———————————————————-
    Brett Favre disagrees…

  19. ravenswhat says: Dec 5, 2013 1:02 PM

    So with a 9-11 playoff record and some ridiculous talent on those losing teams ok Peyton, it’s not the weather, it’s because you choke under big game pressure.

    Better?

  20. patriotinvasion says: Dec 5, 2013 1:03 PM

    Even as a Patriots fan, I’ve grown to love watching Peyton play, but he had 2 of the best offenses he’s ever had in 2003 and 2004, scored 40+ the playoff game before, and came into Foxboro and scored 14 and 3 points in those 2 playoff games.

    Even the year he won his 1 Super Bowl, he didn’t score a TD in the 1 cold weather playoff game they won in Baltimore. Vinatieri had to kick 5 field goals.

  21. doctorrustbelt says: Dec 5, 2013 1:07 PM

    SEC never plays north of Knoxville after the month of October.

  22. dwarftosser says: Dec 5, 2013 1:08 PM

    He’s fine in the cold, it’s the wind that I worry about him in now. It was pretty clear in that game against the Patriots a few weeks ago that he no longer possesses his laser rocket arm.

  23. matthoffner says: Dec 5, 2013 1:08 PM

    Gregg Williams will have something for Manning, their pass defense is staunch. Fitzpatrick can play in cold weather from his days in Buffalo, he is playing for a job next year and the Titans have nothing to lose.

  24. thekiller678 says: Dec 5, 2013 1:09 PM

    More morons who don’t understand the concept of TEAM SPORT. Unless you can specifically remember every loss in cold weather and what happened in each game simply saying his record is 100% irrelevant.

  25. gacoltfan says: Dec 5, 2013 1:12 PM

    itsfootballbaby says:
    Dec 5, 2013 12:42 PM

    The playoff game last year against the Ravens would not have even be close if not for two special teams touchdowns by Trindon Holliday
    ———————————————————-
    If not for a Hail Mary at the end of regulation and another long TD pass at the end of the first half that defense should never have given up, the game wouldn’t have been close.

    Kinda works both ways….

  26. Go-Hawks! says: Dec 5, 2013 1:12 PM

    It’ll be interesting to see how these playoffs play out. I’m hoping Peyton Manning proves everyone wrong and gets to the Superbowl to challenge the Seahawks in what should be a terrific football game.

    But, first, lets take things one game at a time. Broncos vs Titans. Seahawks vs 49ers.

  27. romer318 says: Dec 5, 2013 1:12 PM

    He’s obviously going to dispute that statement, no player is willingly going to agree that he doesn’t play well under certain conditions. But the proof is there, he doesn’t play well in the cold. The cold just throws some players off they’re game.

  28. bucrightoff says: Dec 5, 2013 1:14 PM

    itsfootballbaby says:Dec 5, 2013 12:42 PM

    The playoff game last year against the Ravens would not have even be close if not for two special teams touchdowns by Trindon Holliday
    __________________________________

    Ummm, Joe Flacco is out about $40-60 million and the Ravens are not winning the Super Bowl without Rahim Moore. Please never forget that.

  29. dog589 says: Dec 5, 2013 1:16 PM

    Manning doesnt play the same in cold weather.

    I find it amusing his defenders point to his poor cold weather record and say its a TEAM GAME.

    If so then how come we have to keep hearing about how great Manning is for all the games not played in cold weather?

  30. truthfactory says: Dec 5, 2013 1:16 PM

    patriotinvasion says:
    Dec 5, 2013 1:03 PM
    Even as a Patriots fan, I’ve grown to love watching Peyton play, but he had 2 of the best offenses he’s ever had in 2003 and 2004, scored 40+ the playoff game before, and came into Foxboro and scored 14 and 3 points in those 2 playoff games.

    Even the year he won his 1 Super Bowl, he didn’t score a TD in the 1 cold weather playoff game they won in Baltimore. Vinatieri had to kick 5 field goals.
    —————-
    Why does no one mention that Manning has a better QB rating than Brady in the playoffs?? The Bronco’s put up 35 points against that Ravens team last year and moved the ball at will. Tom Brady struggled to get a 1st down against them and no one says a word about it? The storyline after that post-season was that Manning choked?? What about Brady? What about Brady being a .500 QB in playoffs since spygate??

    Manning has WAY more passing yards and almost identical TD totals in the postseason, but Brady does have a few less INT’s.

    But this is also because Brady is able to hand the ball off and rely on defense to get him the ball back with a 3 and out or turnover. Manning is usually asked to do so much more, and typically delivers. Brady threw for like 120 yards in a Super Bowl win. Rothlesburger had about 140 yards, 0 TD’s and 2 INT’s in a Super Bowl win… Does that make him “clutch”?? It’s a joke.

    Comparing playoff records when comparing QB’s is such a waste of time. Brady’s defenses were giving up like 15 ppg when he ws 9-0 in the playoffs early in his career. While Colts D was giving up about 23 ppg. Just based off that alone, one QB CLEARLY has a much easier path to a playoff win than the other. Stop the madness…

  31. wikidpissah says: Dec 5, 2013 1:17 PM

    rascalmanny says: Dec 5, 2013 12:23 PM

    Football is a TEAM sport. If Manning had had more defenses that were better, he would have more than one ring.
    ==============================

    Manning has won more than 67% of his regular season games. Yet he’s 3-7 in cold weather, 9-11 in playoffs, losing 67% of his first round playoff games. He’s also 4-10 Vs Brady led teams, who haven’t been exactly dominated defensively the past several years.

    He’d also have more than one ring if he didn’t throw a pick six to the Saints in a potential game winning drive. His defense didn’t do that.

  32. RE LEE says: Dec 5, 2013 1:21 PM

    Just look at the brady- manning handshake.

  33. milehigh85 says: Dec 5, 2013 1:30 PM

    Does anyone actually play BETTER in bad weather? Yes, I am a Bronco fan. Yes, I am a Manning fan. Not trying to stick up for Peyton, this conversation is just getting old.

  34. gacoltfan says: Dec 5, 2013 1:32 PM

    From 2006 – present

    Peyton Manning playoff record – 6-5
    Tom Brady playoff record – 7-6

    Not much difference, but somehow Brady is so much more clutch and Manning chokes?

    Does anyone really think Brady was a better QB from 2001 – 2004 when he was 9-0 with 3 SB wins than he has been from 2006 – present with a 7-6 record and no SB wins? Or is it maybe because he had a great defense when he was winning SB’s.

  35. ufanforreal says: Dec 5, 2013 1:32 PM

    patriotinvasion says: Dec 5, 2013 1:03 PM

    Even as a Patriots fan, I’ve grown to love watching Peyton play, but he had 2 of the best offenses he’s ever had in 2003 and 2004, scored 40+ the playoff game before, and came into Foxboro and scored 14 and 3 points in those 2 playoff games.

    Even the year he won his 1 Super Bowl, he didn’t score a TD in the 1 cold weather playoff game they won in Baltimore. Vinatieri had to kick 5 field goals.
    ————————————————————–
    “Vinatieri had to kick field goals”…..much like he did for Tom and his SB win.

  36. baltimoresnativeson says: Dec 5, 2013 1:33 PM

    That if Peyton had better defenses he would have more rings argument is bogus.

    Peyton had 2 possible hall of fame wide receivers and Edgerin James the majority of his career. If Brady had that much offensive help for that long he might have 5 rings.

    He won throwing to Deon freakin Branch.

  37. jeremycrowhurst says: Dec 5, 2013 1:33 PM

    Fortunately for Manning, this week’s opponent has trouble playing in any kind of weather.

  38. coolherc says: Dec 5, 2013 1:35 PM

    glac1 says:
    Dec 5, 2013 12:43 PM

    I like his chances now that dungy isn’t his coach. That will help his cause.

    —————————————————-

    Didn’t seem to matter last season.

  39. all4patriots says: Dec 5, 2013 1:46 PM

    OMG, some morons are still debating Brady vs. Manning?

    That was resolved a LONG time ago in Brady’s favor.

    Manning had the #1 defense in the league in 2007. he had top 10 defenses several other years. He didn’t deliver.

  40. raiderlyfe510 says: Dec 5, 2013 1:49 PM

    I dispute that talk as well. He’s just worse under pressure. Has nothing to do with the cold.

  41. kastout11 says: Dec 5, 2013 1:50 PM

    Granted, Peyton had a terrible game against the Patriots in New England. They still should/could have won the game. I think in Denver, the outcome will be different. Plus, I don’t care who makes the super bowl from the AFC, they are not going to beat Seattle in the super bowl. I do not like Seattle and never have, but I was impressed with what I saw Monday night. It does not matter where the super bowl is at, Seattle will win it.

  42. listenup823 says: Dec 5, 2013 1:53 PM

    Have you ever seen Peyton running off the field at the end of the game b**ching at the refs, dropping the f-bomb on national television because he lost? Didn’t think so… Peyton=True sportsman. Brady=Classless cry baby

  43. doubleogator says: Dec 5, 2013 1:57 PM

    Manning is not the stand up guy he comes across as being. I saw him interviewed after a loss a few years ago, and he threw his offensive line under the bus, he also walked off the field after the loss to the Saints in the Super Bowl without going over to shake hands with the winning team, his narcissistic excuse was “I didn’t want to take away from their moment”He’s as phony as his TV commercials…

  44. JaminJake says: Dec 5, 2013 1:58 PM

    patriotinvasion says:
    Dec 5, 2013 1:03 PM
    Even as a Patriots fan, I’ve grown to love watching Peyton play, but he had 2 of the best offenses he’s ever had in 2003 and 2004, scored 40+ the playoff game before, and came into Foxboro and scored 14 and 3 points in those 2 playoff games.

    Even the year he won his 1 Super Bowl, he didn’t score a TD in the 1 cold weather playoff game they won in Baltimore. Vinatieri had to kick 5 field goals.

    __________________________________

    You bring up a good point. That 2004 offense was utterly amazing. Now it has been firmly established that Spygate was in full effect at that time. Out of all the QBs in the league, Spygate hurt Manning the most. As we have all seen, he loves to get that pre snap read. If he changes the routes for his receivers and the defense is aware(via taping of practices and games) of what routes the receivers are running, it would be pretty easy for them to sit back as though they weren’t adjusting the defense and get those interceptions. You can either chalk it up to Belichick being a genius or maybe he wasn’t playing by the rules. Either way, one must wonder why they could shut down Manning, but not McNabb. Yes, it was warm weather, but that can’t account for everything.

  45. JaminJake says: Dec 5, 2013 1:59 PM

    Tom Brady is also the only Super Bowl winning QB to be outscored in the Super Bowl. I think people have an overly romantic view of his performance in Super Bowls. None the less, he is one of the best ever.

  46. mahimike says: Dec 5, 2013 2:02 PM

    Tebow 1 playoff win for Denver.

    Payaton 0.

  47. dalcow4 says: Dec 5, 2013 2:06 PM

    Manning is right– If he didn’t lose those games he would have won those games and if he won those games nobody would be able to say he lost those games.

    But he lost those games…

  48. coachjohnharbaugh says: Dec 5, 2013 2:08 PM

    peyton manning is a small time player

    i have never seen someone come up so small so often

    #CHAMPS

  49. peopletrains says: Dec 5, 2013 2:08 PM

    Eli is the better bad weather QB. Maybe the only thing he has on Peyton besides the extra rings.

  50. gacoltfan says: Dec 5, 2013 2:08 PM

    baltimoresnativeson says:
    Dec 5, 2013 1:33 PM

    That if Peyton had better defenses he would have more rings argument is bogus.

    Peyton had 2 possible hall of fame wide receivers and Edgerin James the majority of his career. If Brady had that much offensive help for that long he might have 5 rings.

    He won throwing to Deon freakin Branch.
    ———————————————————

    This just proves the point about the defense. He won SB’s throwing to Deon Branch, but couldn’t win SB’s throwing to Randy Moss, Hernandez, Gronk, and Welker.

  51. peopletrains says: Dec 5, 2013 2:10 PM

    @listenup823 … No we haven’t seen Peyton yell at the refs after the game because he is too busy getting ready for the press conference where he can throw his teammates under the bus.

  52. heisthejuan says: Dec 5, 2013 2:13 PM

    listenup823 says: Dec 5, 2013 1:53 PM

    Have you ever seen Peyton running off the field at the end of the game b**ching at the refs, dropping the f-bomb on national television because he lost? Didn’t think so… Peyton=True sportsman. Brady=Classless cry baby
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I have heard Manning throw teammates under the bus after a loss though. Something TB has never done.

    Peyton could have played with some better defenses if he took less money and not every skill position player on his offense was a first round draft pick.

  53. raiders85 says: Dec 5, 2013 2:14 PM

    3~7 Period the golden boy just doesn’t realize that’s facts and the media can’t change it for him he doesn’t get near the blame he deserves for playoff failures,when it’s manning the media says well they wouldn’t be there without him when it’s Romo he’s a choke artist and all kinds of stuff and save your super bowl jargon Romo will get one and plus Peyton beat a rex Grossman led team in one of the worst super bowls ever it was almost un watchable go try to watch highlights if you don’t believe me

  54. coachjohnharbaugh says: Dec 5, 2013 2:14 PM

    peyton manning’s offense scored 21 pts vs the RAVENS in the playoff game & they also gave up a pick 6.

    so, peyton’s offense netted 14 pts. in the playoffs. in the cold. at home.

    CMON SON! you STINK!

    #chokeartist

  55. gacoltfan says: Dec 5, 2013 2:19 PM

    all4patriots says:
    Dec 5, 2013 1:46 PM

    OMG, some morons are still debating Brady vs. Manning?

    That was resolved a LONG time ago in Brady’s favor.

    Manning had the #1 defense in the league in 2007. he had top 10 defenses several other years. He didn’t deliver.
    ———————————————————
    I missed the memo that said this debate was decided in Brady’s favor.

    A couple of years ago when they did the top 100 players of all time, where was Brady rated and where was Manning rated?

  56. jersey73 says: Dec 5, 2013 2:19 PM

    wikidpissah says:

    He’d also have more than one ring if he didn’t throw a pick six to the Saints in a potential game winning drive. His defense didn’t do that.

    ———————-

    Please get your history correct about the Superbowl against the Saints…besides the obvious Hank Baskett stupidity on the onsides kick and Garcon dropping an easy TD before the half, the true culprit was the Colts defense (without Freeney to generate a pass rush…he was injured in the AFCCG against the Jets) that continually gave up 7 yard passes leading to long TD drives in the second half by the Saints.

    You seem to forget that when Peyton threw the pick-6, the Colts were already trailing by 7 points (so it wasn’t a potential game winning drive) and the Colts defense showed NO ABILITY to stop the Saints. Even if Peyton throws a TD instead of a pick-6 to tie the game, does anyone believe the Colts defense would’ve stopped the Saints from even FG range?

    But I figure Peyton haters don’t like facts.

  57. flash1283 says: Dec 5, 2013 2:20 PM

    Manning/Brady Passing Into The Wind
    Sunday Night
    Manning Comp -att 11-23 Brady – 17-23
    yards /att 4.0 8.7
    TD-Int 1-1 2-0

    Brady excelled passing into the wind, completing 74 percent of his attempts with a Total QBR of 95.3. Manning struggled, completing just 48 percent of his 23 passes into the wind and a Total QBR of 26.6.

    In the same time span since 2001, Peyton Manning’s teams are 2-6 when he starts in freezing temperatures with a 68.8 passer rating in those games.

    Brady’s 91.4 passer rating in such games

    And Manning by far has the better WR

  58. johnodocks says: Dec 5, 2013 2:22 PM

    The effects of the cold only worsen as you age. Did you ever feel how hot it is in an old person’s house? And they’re still wearing a cardigan.

  59. flash1283 says: Dec 5, 2013 2:25 PM

    JaminJake says: Dec 5, 2013 1:58 PM

    patriotinvasion says:
    Dec 5, 2013 1:03 PM
    Even as a Patriots fan, I’ve grown to love watching Peyton play, but he had 2 of the best offenses he’s ever had in 2003 and 2004, scored 40+ the playoff game before, and came into Foxboro and scored 14 and 3 points in those 2 playoff games.

    Even the year he won his 1 Super Bowl, he didn’t score a TD in the 1 cold weather playoff game they won in Baltimore. Vinatieri had to kick 5 field goals.

    __________________________________

    You bring up a good point. That 2004 offense was utterly amazing. Now it has been firmly established that Spygate was in full effect at that time. Out of all the QBs in the league, Spygate hurt Manning the most. As we have all seen, he loves to get that pre snap read. If he changes the routes for his receivers and the defense is aware(via taping of practices and games) of what routes the receivers are running, it would be pretty easy for them to sit back as though they weren’t adjusting the defense and get those interceptions. You can either chalk it up to Belichick being a genius or maybe he wasn’t playing by the rules. Either way, one must wonder why they could shut down Manning, but not McNabb. Yes, it was warm weather, but that can’t account for everything.

    If “spygate was about filming defensive signals how would that effect Manning?

  60. all4patriots says: Dec 5, 2013 2:25 PM

    JaminJake: “Out of all the QBs in the league, Spygate hurt Manning the most…”

    Really?

    Help me out here.

    Taping the signals of the DEFENSIVE coaches of the other team could (theoretically) help YOUR offense, correct? How could it impact the other team’s offense, and QB, in any way whatsoever?

    hint: it cannot

    You then say that they taped practices. They did not. Ever. Retracted, FALSE allegation

    Please, stick to the facts.

  61. busterhighmann says: Dec 5, 2013 2:50 PM

    “and follow that by winning the first-ever cold-weather Super Bowl.”

    39 degrees. Superbowl VI. Dallas won over Miami in a 24-3 defeat.

    I don’t know about you, but I find that pretty cold.

  62. jhutch02 says: Dec 5, 2013 3:10 PM

    I don’t think the weather has as much to do with it as the big stage/playoffs. Manning is an amazing QB, no arguing that fact. However in the playoffs, regardless of where it’s played he’s 9-11.

    He can prove a lot this year if the road leads through Denver and then on to NJ. He not only needs to show he can win in the cold but in the playoffs the way he does in the regular season.

    FYI. I’m a Broncos fan

  63. dualprime says: Dec 5, 2013 3:42 PM

    How about that Case Keenum?

  64. ratsfoiledagain says: Dec 5, 2013 3:59 PM

    rascalmanny says:
    Dec 5, 2013 12:23 PM

    Manning doesn’t even have to play this weekend for Denver to beat the Titans.

    Football is a TEAM sport. If Manning had had more defenses that were better, he would have more than one ring.

    He’s still in the top 3 for this year and one of the best of all time. Haters will still hate.
    *************
    Yes, Manning needs to play in order for Denver to win. Why?

    When your D gives up 26 ppg, you need to outscore them. Peyton gives them the best chance to do so.

    If Manning’s season ended today, the Bronco’s would be toast.

  65. jjackwagon says: Dec 5, 2013 4:03 PM

    If Peyton would play better in cold weather, people would stop talking about it.

  66. thewiz37 says: Dec 5, 2013 4:10 PM

    “JaminJake says:Dec 5, 2013 1:59 PM

    Tom Brady is also the only Super Bowl winning QB to be outscored in the Super Bowl.”

    No.

    Wins: 3+3+3=9

    Losses: 3+4=7

  67. bengaliballer says: Dec 5, 2013 4:27 PM

    Maybe he’s bad in cold weather, or maybe he’s just a choker in the playoffs.
    Choked in Foxboro with 4 INT’s in 2003.
    Choked in the Super Bowl against the Saints with a game-losing pick 6 to Tracy Porter.
    Choked in the divisional playoffs as the #1 seed last year by throwing an INT in Overtime against the Ravens, setting up Justin Tucker for the game winning field goal.
    Trend?

  68. jr4real says: Dec 5, 2013 4:29 PM

    milehigh85 says: Dec 5, 2013 1:30 PM

    Does anyone actually play BETTER in bad weather? Yes, I am a Bronco fan. Yes, I am a Manning fan. Not trying to stick up for Peyton, this conversation is just getting old.
    ________________________

    Actually Bradshaw was awesome in bad weather. Playoffs or not. he put up 5 TDs in bad weather a few times.

    scored 2 TDs in 18 seconds against houston one playoff game.

  69. jasonculhane says: Dec 5, 2013 4:35 PM

    What’s Dungy’s record below 20 degrees? Just curious, what’s his record against the Pats, or is the quarterback is totally responsible for everything. Even gameplanning around his horrible defenses. Is it just “Manning’s record”? Why isn’t “Bill Polian’s record” or “Tony Dungy’s record” or perhaps it’s Dome teams in general. What was Kurt Warner, Warren Moon, Steve young, Joe Montana, Dan Fouts, Dan Marinos record in games below 20 degrees?

    I get the record in the cold. But all passing offenses are generally bad in the cold. I remember the run n shoot was bad in the cold. Greatest Show on Turf “bad in cold”…”Air Coryell” bad in cold…

    When compared to Brady in the cold, that’s not fair since Brady’s cold games are at home and those are games he’s supposed to win. Has anyone’s even thought about that? There home games…Home games he’s lost to Baltimore, lets not pretend he’s undefeated at home guys.

    Lets use common sense…What’s Jim Kelly’s record in the cold vs Dan Marino?? He played in Buffalo so its gonna be a winning record..C’mon guys with the comparisons, just quit.

    I think we need to lay off Peyton. Dude has a numb arm, and a steel rod in his neck. Lucky to even play.

  70. kevpft says: Dec 5, 2013 4:42 PM

    I’ve seen this train wreck coming all season. HOF QB has his best season ever, with a team primed for SB victory, then smacks into a wall in the bad-luck timing of a cold-weather SB. His last, best chance to win another SB tripped up by a fluke.

    Alternately, this could be one of the greatest wins ever, if he gets there and wins. It would settle every criticism made against him, and solidify his legacy for good. It would be like Kurt Warner with the Cardinals times ten.

    Who knows if he’ll even make it to the SB. My Cowboys fandom aside, I’m kind of rooting for Denver and Seattle to get to the SB, and whoever wins, it would be some kind of redemption story.

  71. jasonculhane says: Dec 5, 2013 4:43 PM

    all dome teams records are bad in games under 20 degrees if you look back in NFL history. Not just Peyton’s.

    Of course Brady’s record in the cold is gonna be better…because he plays those games at home, lol.

    Any of you think Jim Kelly is better then Dan Marino? They said the same thing about Marino, in fact Kelly was much better in the cold…But he played 8 games a year including playoffs in the cold.

    Kurt Warner…Record sucks in the cold
    Warren Moon…Record sucks in the cold
    Steve Young….I’m gonna bet that his record sucks in the cold.

    Everyone has a right to have an opinion on Peyton’s cold weather record, but everyone acts like its just him, when in fact there’s a history of quarterbacks who play “away from home” that lose in “cold weather games”…

  72. holeinone09 says: Dec 5, 2013 4:45 PM

    In the headline, should have changed the word “cold” to “playoffs”.

  73. mimitaroo says: Dec 5, 2013 4:48 PM

    “but then again, most of those games were on the road against playoff opposition”

    Regardless of how you spin it, he is either worse in “cold weather” or worse in “meaningful matches”. Both are just as bad as each other.

  74. bullcharger says: Dec 5, 2013 4:50 PM

    Manning has won 3 outdoor playoff games.

    Against KC in 2004. 38-31 in one of Manning’s best playoff performances. 40F was the temp.

    15-6 @ Baltimore in 2006. Vinitieri won it with 5 field goals and Manning played well, but he wasn’t his dominiant self. 54F.

    The Super Bowl against Chicago. That was in Miami 66F. A warm weather game.

    None of the 3 wins were close to freezing.

    He’s lost 7 playoff games outdoors and 4 of them were 32F or below.

    He’s yet to prove he can win in freezing temperatures against good teams in the playoffs. It doesn’t mean he can’t win a game. He just never has.

  75. flash1283 says: Dec 5, 2013 5:11 PM

    Tom Brady 16-1 all time in cold weather (32 or below) with a passer rating of 94.1

  76. patriotinvasion says: Dec 5, 2013 5:19 PM

    truthfactory says: Dec 5, 2013 1:16 PM

    …What about Brady? What about Brady being a .500 QB in playoffs since spygate??

    Comparing playoff records when comparing QB’s is such a waste of time. Brady’s defenses were giving up like 15 ppg when he ws 9-0 in the playoffs early in his career. While Colts D was giving up about 23 ppg. Just based off that alone, one QB CLEARLY has a much easier path to a playoff win than the other. Stop the madness…
    ____

    You just answered your own question about Brady. When he won those Super Bowls, his defense gave up just 15ppg and forced 27 turnovers to go 10-0 in his first 10 playoff games. During his run of being .500 (7-7), his defense has given up 22ppg and forced only 17 turnovers in 14 games. Big difference and he STILL was 1 play from winning 2 of the past 6 Super Bowls!

  77. patriotinvasion says: Dec 5, 2013 5:22 PM

    JaminJake says: Dec 5, 2013 1:58 PM

    You bring up a good point. That 2004 offense was utterly amazing. Now it has been firmly established that Spygate was in full effect at that time. Out of all the QBs in the league, Spygate hurt Manning the most. As we have all seen, he loves to get that pre snap read. If he changes the routes for his receivers and the defense is aware(via taping of practices and games) of what routes the receivers are running, it would be pretty easy for them to sit back as though they weren’t adjusting the defense and get those interceptions.
    ___

    Ahhh, you obviosuly don’t know what you’re talking about since spygate was about recording DEFENSIVE hand signals. There were no offensive signals to record since all play calls go to the QB’s helmet. Try learning football before commenting on PFT.

  78. all4patriots says: Dec 5, 2013 5:31 PM

    “Of course Brady’s record in the cold is gonna be better…because he plays those games at home, lol.”

    Brady also has a better career passer rating in games played in domes than does Peyton, even though they are all road games for Brady. Peyton has just played about 10X more games in domes.

    Brady has a better passer rating
    inside
    outside
    in wind
    in calm
    in hot
    in mild
    in cold
    in rain
    in snow

    Every way possible, really. It’s just that everyone is better to some extent in perfect weather, and PM has had perfect weather WAY more often

  79. bluecrew2626 says: Dec 5, 2013 5:39 PM

    Individual W-L in football is not a valid stat, its a team sport.

  80. dualprime says: Dec 5, 2013 5:41 PM

    It seems that team without quality running games/offensive lines have trouble in bad weather, cold or wet. Broncos may not need Manning to be great to win in the playoffs (i.e. Elway with Terrell Davis).

  81. fnf417 says: Dec 5, 2013 6:11 PM

    Seattle will beat Denver or New England they are a much more well rounded team
    11th offensively 1st defensively

  82. flash1283 says: Dec 5, 2013 6:17 PM

    bluecrew2626 says:
    Dec 5, 2013 5:39 PM
    Individual W-L in football is not a valid stat, its a team sport.

    Then why does the NFL have a stat for QB W-L record?
    Why does the NFL have a QB playoff W-l record.

  83. bamboozle99 says: Dec 5, 2013 6:22 PM

    That’s what happens if you credit a QB so much for team wins, it gets out of control. John Fox lost that last playoff game, not P.Manning.

  84. lagg1 says: Dec 5, 2013 6:23 PM

    Peyton Manning is a great qb, one of the best to ever play the game. But the best-ah-NO! Brady and even Flacco have more playoff wins in freezing weather. Personally I think that Brady is better. This year he has had to work without Welker plus he only had Gronkowski for a short period. The man wins and makes lesser talent play better. He had a bunch of nobodies for wr’s at the beginning of the year. Plus he has 3 rings and 2 SB MVP’s. I am sorry-it’s Brady by alot.

  85. grandpoopah says: Dec 5, 2013 7:03 PM

    Logicalvoice is Dan Snyder.

  86. listenup823 says: Dec 5, 2013 7:03 PM

    @lagg1… Yeah but he’s such a colossal baby! We wets himself every time a call goes against him..

  87. grandpoopah says: Dec 5, 2013 7:08 PM

    Dec 5, 2013 4:29 PM
    milehigh85 says: Dec 5, 2013 1:30 PM

    Does anyone actually play BETTER in bad weather? Yes, I am a Bronco fan. Yes, I am a Manning fan. Not trying to stick up for Peyton, this conversation is just getting old.
    ________________________

    Yes, Manning’s opponents play BETTER in cold weather.

  88. scrotiemcb says: Dec 5, 2013 7:09 PM

    Coincidence.

    He rallied the Colts to beat Denver in a blizzard a few years back.

    More recently, He had both the Ravens and Pats beat until other knuckleheads melted down (see Rahim Moore, Montee Ball, Denver’s crippled secondary.)

    That’s the problem with the media and 4 months a year fans. Nuance eludes them.

  89. NFL FAN 18 says: Dec 5, 2013 7:11 PM

    Both Brady & Manning are Great QB. We are lucky to see them battle for so many years. Yes, if you look at the record in playoffs or between them, Brady has better record. No disputing that. But that alone is not sufficient to say Brady is much better than Manning. Both have their own merits as a QB. Yes, as a NFL fan, I always enjoy both their games and lucky to have so many good QBs playing right now. What if Manning wins the SB this year. Will he not be playing outdoors in all games this year? If he proves that this year, would NE fans shut up? I don’t think so, as they still feel insecure in the Brady/Manning debate. Right now Brady is clearly better in terms of records, but if Manning wins one more in Denver, I would say Manning/Brady are equal and have different skill sets and are different type of QBs but both equally good. Agree?

    Be glad to have them battle out for so long. Before long, both will ride in to sunset and you don’t know when NE/Denver would see a good QB let alone HOF QBs.

    Enjoy the game! Be a NFL fan first & let the bettter team win.

  90. mqsnacks78 says: Dec 5, 2013 7:16 PM

    Look, everyone can talk all they want about cold weather and playoff wins, Super Bowls, etc….. Blah blah blah. Football is the total team sport and more times then not the winner of the year is a team who caught lightning in a bottle. The fact that someone replied w/ Joe Flacco in the same breath as Peyton Manning when comparing qb’s is utterly hilarious! Just ask all the greats who play now and played against Manning. They’ll all say he was the best they ever played against. Eli is a perfect example for this argument…won 2 SB’s but if someone legitimately compares him to Peyton they are smoking stuff way stronger then cigarettes.

  91. boyshole25 says: Dec 5, 2013 8:31 PM

    I think he’s the best qb ever, if he could play in the cold though he would seriously have ten Super Bowls

  92. patriotinvasion says: Dec 5, 2013 8:33 PM

    JaminJake says:
    Dec 5, 2013 1:59 PM
    Tom Brady is also the only Super Bowl winning QB to be outscored in the Super Bowl. I think people have an overly romantic view of his performance in Super Bowls. None the less, he is one of the best ever.
    ________

    John Elway Super Bowl points – 105
    His Super Bowl opponents – 179

    Wrong by a mile. You must be like 17 years old.

  93. sportsfan18 says: Dec 6, 2013 1:32 AM

    doctorrustbelt says:
    Dec 5, 2013 1:07 PM
    SEC never plays north of Knoxville after the month of October.

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    Geez. So many Americans don’t know geography.

    Lexington, KY is definitely north of Knoxville, TN and Lexington is home of the University of Kentucky and they are most definitely in the SEC.

  94. sportsfan18 says: Dec 6, 2013 1:41 AM

    heisthejuan says:
    Dec 5, 2013 2:13 PM
    listenup823 says: Dec 5, 2013 1:53 PM

    Have you ever seen Peyton running off the field at the end of the game b**ching at the refs, dropping the f-bomb on national television because he lost? Didn’t think so… Peyton=True sportsman. Brady=Classless cry baby
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I have heard Manning throw teammates under the bus after a loss though. Something TB has never done.

    _________________________________

    No, Tom let’s his wife throw his teammates under the bus for him…

    My husband can’t throw the ball to himself.

    He can’t throw it and catch it.

    She, as usual, did look good while saying this though…

  95. panfish2013 says: Dec 6, 2013 1:54 AM

    It’s not just cold weather, although thats a big part. Manning has been Brady’s bitch in December and January for ever. He chokes in big games! Always has since Tennessee. Great fantasy QB. Take him over anyone. If I was building a real team, give me Brady, Breese, Rodgers, and even Rivers!

  96. jasonculhane says: Dec 6, 2013 2:29 AM

    @all4patriots

    “Brady also has a better career passer rating in games played in domes than does Peyton, even though they are all road games for Brady. Peyton has just played about 10X more games in domes.

    Brady has a better passer rating
    inside
    outside
    in wind
    in calm
    in hot
    in mild
    in cold
    in rain
    in snow

    Every way possible, really. It’s just that everyone is better to some extent in perfect weather, and PM has had perfect weather WAY more often”

    Bro, where are you getting your stats from? If that were true Brady would just have a better quarterback rating then Peyton, and he don’t neither in the playoffs or regular season. Your probably just picking and choosing stats to support Brady like everyone does. The truth is, is Brady’s playoff record isn’t that good since Spygate.

    He’s been as good as Manning or as poor ever since Bruschi, Mcginist, Ty Law, Rodney Harrison all retired bro. Patriots defense is what won those Superbowls, just like the Giants did with Phil Simms as their quarterback, its the same system bro. Same defense, difference is,is that now its on Brady’s shoulders to carry the load and he’s got a great regular season to show for it is 2007…

    Brady doesn’t have better numbers then Peyton, I mean I guess you could dig up a few ..Peyton Manning is the more prolific out of the two quarterbacks, surely your not in denial to see this. Bill Belichek has won without Tom Brady, how do you know that Tom is even that important? Or isn’t a product of a really good system? Matt Cassel is a horrible quarterback, we know that know, but yet the Patriots managed to win with him…How do you know Tom Brady don’t go to another team and suck?

  97. jasonculhane says: Dec 6, 2013 2:59 AM

    Reason why people hate on Manning and I’m trying to piss people off, is because he makes all that jack, and at the end of the day he gets the ratings, Tom just don’t, I mean it pisses off people from Boston because they win all those Superbowls, World Series,and no matter how many they win one of their own is always second. I mean the Patriots games barely gets flexed unless they play the Broncos. That’s what it is. Manning makes the most money, highest ratings, he’s their top performer right now and you know what, he’s a better entertainer and that’s what everyone wants to see. Even withstanding past playoff failures.. Tom isn’t and I like Tom Brady, if you compard him to Drew Brees I would totally laugh… But as far as the Manning and Brady debate, this is actually what pisses people off. People wanna see Peyton play MORE then Brady and that causes people to hate

  98. lagg1 says: Dec 6, 2013 4:49 AM

    More recently, He had both the Ravens and Pats beat until other knuckleheads melted down (see Rahim Moore, Montee Ball, Denver’s crippled secondary.)

    __________________________________

    Sorry but he had two quarters of overtime to beat Baltimore and did not do it. He also had a 24-0 lead at NE and lost it.

  99. wikidpissah says: Dec 6, 2013 8:13 AM

    jersey73 says: Dec 5, 2013 2:19 PM

    But I figure Peyton haters don’t like facts.

    ======================================

    The fact is that Manning’s record is completely different in the post season, and/or cold weather. In most of those games, Manning’s team was favored, sometimes by a lot.

    I don’t dislike Manning, he’s a great player most of the time, one of the best all time. He also seems like a good guy. What bugs me is the the contortions his apologists go through to exonerate him from any fault when his teams lose. He consistently wins in the regular season, and is consistently mediocre in the cols and post season. That’s a fact.

    As Bill Parcells says, you are what your record says you are.

  100. sportsfan18 says: Dec 6, 2013 8:44 AM

    all4patriots says:
    Dec 5, 2013 5:31 PM
    “Of course Brady’s record in the cold is gonna be better…because he plays those games at home, lol.”

    Brady also has a better career passer rating in games played in domes than does Peyton, even though they are all road games for Brady. Peyton has just played about 10X more games in domes.

    Brady has a better passer rating
    inside
    outside
    in wind
    in calm
    in hot
    in mild
    in cold
    in rain
    in snow

    Every way possible, really. It’s just that everyone is better to some extent in perfect weather, and PM has had perfect weather WAY more often

    ___________________________________

    Well, Brady can’t have a better passer rating across the board as you said above (in calm, hot, mild, rain etc…)

    as Peyton’s career passer rating is higher than Tom’s.

    Now, I’ve not looked at home games, dome games, road games etc… and it’s probably due to playing inside so much but Tom can’t be higher than Peyton in every situation with a lower career passer rating.

  101. candidad389 says: Dec 6, 2013 9:02 AM

    listenup823:

    Please! you and all of the other Manning-haters give examples of whet “you have heard” when he throws teammates under the bus. Don’t use examples of him saying “we all should have played better,” because that is not throwing someone under the bus…that is pointing out facts! Also, ask his teammates how many of them have been thrown under the bus…my guess would be 0. To be continued? We’ll see…I think you will find nothing!

  102. dualprime says: Dec 6, 2013 9:44 AM

    These Manning/Brady comparisons are like Bird/Magic. You can’t go wrong with any of them!

  103. spankygreen says: Dec 6, 2013 11:07 AM

    Ok I got it, when Denver loses, it’s all about THE team. When the Bronco’s win it’s all about Peyton….

  104. lagg1 says: Dec 6, 2013 1:28 PM

    To mqsnacks78, my previous reference to Flacco was a conotation that Manning has only 2 cold playoff wins whereas Flacco had 2 last year alone plus several more in his brief career. Otherwise Flacco is nowhere near Manning in production.

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