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King: Steelers draft-pick forfeiture highly unlikely

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The $100,000 fine imposed on Steelers coach Mike Tomlin for his sideline side-step carries with it another potential sanction.  The league has said that “modification or forfeiture of draft choices will be considered after the final order of the 2014 draft has been determined.”

Peter King of TheMMQB.com said on Friday’s edition of Pro Football Talk on NBCSN that further sanctions are highly unlikely.

Per King, the Steelers would lose a draft pick only if the Ravens fail to make it to the playoffs based on the absence of the four extra points that would have been scored if receiver Jacoby Jones had managed to make it to the end zone on the kickoff return with which Tomlin interfered.  (The drive ended in one of Justin Tucker’s five field goals on the night.)

Net points in common game is the eighth tiebreaker among two potential wild-card teams and the ninth tiebreaker for all other ties.  As a result, the chances of those lost four points keeping the Ravens out of the playoffs are slim.

If they do, then the Steelers will face some sort of draft-pick penalty.

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51 Responses to “King: Steelers draft-pick forfeiture highly unlikely”
  1. thepftpoet says: Dec 6, 2013 8:45 PM

    “Steelers will only lose draft picks of the Ravens miss the playoffs”

    Then it’s 100% certain the Steelers will lose their draft picks..

  2. thepftpoet says: Dec 6, 2013 8:47 PM

    Let’s all look at this as a positive..

    Steelers losing a draft pick would benefit them

    They draft all busts…

  3. dreamicus says: Dec 6, 2013 8:51 PM

    So then this would imply that the league deemed that Tomlin did interfere and that Jacoby Jones would have scored without Tomlin’s interference. Otherwise, what’s the issue with the four points?

    Even with the fifteen yards added there is no guarantee the Ravens would have scored a touchdown. So, by recognizing the four points the league is saying he should have scored sans Tomlin’s interference.

    So, the officials should have flagged the team and awarded the Ravens a touchdown.

  4. agc99 says: Dec 6, 2013 9:10 PM

    How about suspend Tomlin for life? Steeler fans would be happy. He can take Todd Haley with him.

  5. trololol19 says: Dec 6, 2013 9:13 PM

    @thepftpoet – did you read the whole sentence? They have to miss the playoffs, as a result of a tiebreaker involving the points that they “lost out on”. Any other reason for missing the playoff does not affect the Steelers picks.

  6. koenig61 says: Dec 6, 2013 9:19 PM

    If by busts you mean HOF busts, then yes “thepftpoet” you are correct.

  7. kremis says: Dec 6, 2013 9:25 PM

    5-7 hahahaha so funny!
    Their idea of a twelfth man is having their coach play on special teams!

  8. lennydpocketqb says: Dec 6, 2013 9:25 PM

    There is no reason for the Steelers to lose a draft pick. #GoGiants

  9. joemcrugby says: Dec 6, 2013 9:26 PM

    What did I tell y’all?

    The chosen coach of the chosen franchise will in all likelihood not face any larger of a penalty for he stepped onto the field of play that likely affected the outcome of said play than when a lowly paid assistant coach from a lower-on-the-totem-pole franchise who was standing outside of the field of play but within the infraction zone had potentially affected a play.

    And this is the guy (Tomlin) who will have a seat beside the coach of the annual dirtiest team in the league (Teflon Jeff Fisher) who will occupy one of the coveted positions that directly affects the “level playing field” of competition on the field of play (Competition Committee)???

    In the words of Dr. Evil: “Righhhhhhhhhhht!”

  10. Joemontanaflacco says: Dec 6, 2013 9:26 PM

    Draft picks or no draft picks, at least the whole world now knows this team is nothing but a bunch of sleazy cheaters.

  11. halusbr33 says: Dec 6, 2013 9:28 PM

    Can’t believe doctorrustbelt hasn’t chimed in with his dr rydze philosophy or how terry Bradshaw took steroids…

  12. halftermguv says: Dec 6, 2013 9:48 PM

    @dreamicus “So, the officials should have flagged the team and awarded the Ravens a touchdown.”

    You mean like how officials award touchdowns to for pass interference in the end zone?

    Get real, Tomlin’s interference has been the most overhyped thing I’ve seen this year.

    Jacoby Jones was caught by a Pittsburgh defensive back running across the field because Jones is not fully recovered from an knee injury not a slight deviation while running along a sideline.

    Speaking of hype why hasn’t the play with two Ravens hitting Bell with helmet to helmet contact been talked about?

    Watch the replay…his helmet is dislodged and he’s concussed.

    Where’s the fine from the NFL front office?

    Cue the crickets.

  13. jmblosser82 says: Dec 6, 2013 9:50 PM

    With the bengals, patriots, and lions coming up I think 2-2 will easily happen. Missing the playoffs due to the net points won’t be the reason so no draft pick loss.

  14. dreamicus says: Dec 6, 2013 9:58 PM

    I’m consternated by the fact there are almost as many oppositions to my previous post as approvals; yet, I have yet to see anyone post an opposition to my comment.

    Please explain yourselves.

  15. charger383 says: Dec 6, 2013 10:13 PM

    Refs missed call on field, so that makes NFL partly to blame. Ravens won anyway, so fine Tomlin and be done. Fine was not high enough.

    Also I hate the Steelers more than mobile radar

  16. dreamicus says: Dec 6, 2013 10:14 PM

    I’ll help you out:

    con·ster·nate (knstr-nt)
    tr.v. con·ster·nat·ed, con·ster·nat·ing, con·ster·nates
    To cause consternation in.

    con·ster·na·tion (knstr-nshn)
    n.
    A state of paralyzing dismay.

  17. originalsteelcurtain says: Dec 6, 2013 10:32 PM

    Does King really have his finger on the pulse of Roger Goodell?

    Does anybody?

    This Commish makes changes on the fly per his own personal whim based on his own personal agenda.

    Anything is possible with Czar Goodell!

  18. getyourownname says: Dec 6, 2013 10:37 PM

    Is anyone really surprised by this?

  19. Deb says: Dec 6, 2013 10:50 PM

    Other than the news that Le’veon Bell has returned to practice, this is the first positive thing I’ve read about either my college or pro team since Thanksgiving. Never thought I’d feel so grateful to Peter King.

  20. colv says: Dec 6, 2013 11:25 PM

    I’m a Ravens fan and that the right decision- no loss of draft pick.

  21. sdakota says: Dec 6, 2013 11:26 PM

    so in other words if i am an owner, I tell my coach to do the same thing if the situation warrants. don’t worry I will pay the fine, no one has to know…wink wink

  22. ampatsisahypocrite says: Dec 6, 2013 11:33 PM

    Field-Goal Flacco is still thrilled you’re all talking about this little brouhaha, and forgetting about his second-half fizzle.

    And no, there should never have even been talks about losing draft picks in the first place.

  23. apkyletexas says: Dec 6, 2013 11:44 PM

    As a Steeler fan I love our coach Tomlin, but that’s not much of a penalty to be honest with you.

    $100 grand to possibly turn a loss into a win? Against your #1 division rival?

    He would probably have earned more than $100,000 extra in his next contract if he could have kept the Steelers winning and given them the inside track to the #6 playoff spot.

    Next time a head coach sees a kick returner flying down the sideline, why not stick a foot out there? It’s less than a game check, and it could be the difference in your team’s playoff push. He should have at least been suspended for a game.

  24. dreamicus says: Dec 6, 2013 11:54 PM

    And seriously, how could someone actually give a thumbs down to the definition of consternated? Especially without a response as to why they gave the thumbs down. It seems a clear indication of ignorance.

  25. boomgrounder says: Dec 7, 2013 12:30 AM

    Tomlin should be suspended. He’s a disgrace to his profession!

  26. reed20fence says: Dec 7, 2013 12:44 AM

    Sounds fair enough. If it comes down to those points mattering then swapping picks makes sense. If not it’s kinda overkill.

  27. sargentseahawk says: Dec 7, 2013 1:35 AM

    Bush League, Pathetic, and embarrasing! Tomlin should be banned from the league! If you want on the field put on the pads and lets see how tough you are PUNK!

  28. crownofthehelmet says: Dec 7, 2013 1:48 AM

    dreamicus, for someone as smart as you that you can cut and paste the dictionary, I’m surprised you need help figuring out the thumbs down on your post. And it’s quite simple: those are from the truly logical that know Jones was getting caught no matter where Tomlin was standing.

  29. patriotinvasion says: Dec 7, 2013 1:53 AM

    The league must come down hard on the Steelers CHEATING scandal or else their coaches may be wearing pads next time to make tackles. The Steelers 2008* Super Bowl rings should be vacated as well since Mike Tomcheat was involved.

    *Cheated by having coaches interfere with plays. Does not count as a real title.

  30. joetoronto says: Dec 7, 2013 5:08 AM

    This isn’t right, if a player did this he would definitely be suspended.

    Money alone doesn’t cut it.

  31. aec4 says: Dec 7, 2013 7:18 AM

    How about those extra plays run and if someone got hurt? How about it changing the whole game? Penalizing only based on the 4 points is a madden football mentality. Tomlin went onto the field and effected a play. It wasn’t quite Woody Hayes but it was close.

  32. iamozzie says: Dec 7, 2013 7:20 AM

    When we miss the playoffs, it will be because I gave Joe too much darn money. Ozzie Knows!

  33. olcap says: Dec 7, 2013 7:34 AM

    They are the Stealers.

    Their coach is a cheater. Their owners are complacent in the cheating by not firing the cheating coach.

  34. FinFan68 says: Dec 7, 2013 7:43 AM

    @haftermguv, dreamicus is correct in his assessment. When someone enters the field and alters a play the officials can award a TD. It is nothing like a PI in the end zone because that player was supposed to be on the field.

  35. melikefootball says: Dec 7, 2013 8:00 AM

    The NFL keeps taking steps backwards. No wonder so many empty seats. Before long fans will watch for one thing the fantasy standings. Gödel and his actions leaves the game itself empty.

  36. joe6606 says: Dec 7, 2013 8:20 AM

    This was reported by the pittsburgh media 3 days ago. But hey let’s bury it here on a Saturday morning where no one will read it….

  37. nesuperfan says: Dec 7, 2013 8:28 AM

    If they don’t lose a draft pick, that makes the $100K fine look all the more like a joke. They fined Tomlin 1.7% of his annual salary, which is nothing to him. They also fined a head coach the same as some low-level coach had previously been fined. They should not be treated the same based on their positions.
    The runner could have been seriously hurt, and the only way to stop these repeated attempts to trip runners (we have seen a lot of them shown lately in replays while discussing this case) is to make it hurt the organization by taking a 3rd round, or higher, draft pick. ONLY that will send a clear message, and stop this stuff from happening.

  38. drone501 says: Dec 7, 2013 8:49 AM

    im glad someone realizes we are truly the chosen franchise. always was, always will be.when you think NFL you think of the steelers.

  39. Joemontanaflacco says: Dec 7, 2013 9:06 AM

    “Speaking of hype why hasn’t the play with two Ravens hitting Bell with helmet to helmet contact been talked about?”

    It has been talked about. The ruling was that there was no infraction. What more do you want?
    Crickets

  40. iamozzie says: Dec 7, 2013 9:13 AM

    Hey Joemontanaflacco, quit spending your time here on STEELER post and ruining our Raven fan base with idiotic comments like yours. Quit being a STEELER wanna b fan. OZZIE knows!

  41. turtlehut says: Dec 7, 2013 9:27 AM

    The Steelers need a pick to get Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston so they can pair him with their current serial rapist quarterback and cheating coach because I guess with a few wins all bad behavior is forgiven in western Pennsylvania.

  42. citizenstrange says: Dec 7, 2013 11:14 AM

    Tomlin thought that he was slick enough to cheat and get away with it and he was right.

    What was there to gain? Seriously? Exactly what WAS gained. Turning a 7 point play into a 3 point play and giving his team a chance to tie the game with a 2 point conversion. Tomlin cheated and got away with it. How can anybody not see that?

    His team was going down the toilet and out of the playoffs AGAIN and he gave them one last shot at beating the Ravens by cheating.

    By continuing to lie with no admission of guilt and no suspension and no loss of draft picks Tomlin comes out the big cheating winner.

  43. FinFan68 says: Dec 7, 2013 1:11 PM

    crownofthehelmet says:
    Dec 7, 2013 1:48 AM
    dreamicus, for someone as smart as you that you can cut and paste the dictionary, I’m surprised you need help figuring out the thumbs down on your post. And it’s quite simple: those are from the truly logical that know Jones was getting caught no matter where Tomlin was standing.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    How do you know that? Jones shifted inside directly because of Tomlin. Also, he was running directly at Tomlin on the sideline; it is completely natural to slow down (even without intending to) when approaching an obstacle. How do you know Tomlin didn’t cause Jones to be caught. You can’t. It’s all a WAG. By rule the officials could have awarded a TD based on Tomlin’s obvious interference. I think Tomlin’s discipline is fine but if they take a draft pick it should be a compensatory pick that may come due. The real story concerns the officials not calling the blatant infraction that affected both the players on the field and the official trying to follow the play.

  44. grpatriot says: Dec 7, 2013 1:26 PM

    Why the big cheese eating grin? He knew exactly where he was and what he was doing! Big smile Mikey!

  45. Deb says: Dec 7, 2013 1:32 PM

    @citizenstrange …

    Again … you sound very bitter toward the Steelers for a Steelers fan.

    First, my only argument was that the team shouldn’t lose draft picks due to the rogue behavior of a single individual. The Alosi incident was planned, involved multiple coaches, and knocked out a player. This was spontaneous, did not involve the team, did not cause injury, and did not alter the outcome of the game. It’s highly unlikely the Ravens will miss the playoffs because of that four-point difference in the score. If they do, then we’ll deal with that.

    As for Tomlin, I’d have been okay with a higher fine or suspension. But I’m surprised you think he walked away from this unscathed. Despite the problems the team has been having, Mike Tomlin was a well-respected coach in the NFL. No matter what he says about this incident, the film footage implies he was acting deliberately. Because of that, his reputation and integrity have taken a tremendous hit. I’ve always been a big Tomlin fan and don’t know that he’ll ever recover in my eyes. He is paying a price for a moment of utter stupidity. It may ultimately shorten his tenure with the Steelers.

  46. doctorrustbelt says: Dec 7, 2013 2:24 PM

    So… no draft pick forfeiture for influencing the game with low character sideline stunts and a team doctor being indicted for illegal distribution of hgh and steroids?!?

    Terrible NFL leadership.

  47. citizenstrange says: Dec 7, 2013 2:35 PM

    Deb says: Dec 7, 2013 1:32 PM

    @citizenstrange …

    Again … you sound very bitter toward the Steelers for a Steelers fan.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    The no suspension part is what aggravates me the most. He got away with cheating and lying with no admission of guilt.

    If he would have come clean and admitted it then a one game suspension. But to continue lying and lying and lying with no admission of guilt he should have been suspended for the rest of the season.

    The stripping of a draft pick shows just how serious I think this is. The Raiders should have been fined , players suspended and stripped of draft picks for their blatantly cheating Holy Roller play. In my opinion what Tomlin did was on par with that.

  48. Deb says: Dec 7, 2013 3:04 PM

    @citizenstrange …

    Must admit I, too, was surprised he wasn’t suspended. And I thought the fine was a little low. Still can’t fathom what happened there. As a lifelong Bama fan, I should have spent the week reeling from the bizarre ending to the Iron Bowl. Instead, I’ve spent the week trying to wrap my head around this insane incident with Tomlin. Didn’t agree with that FG try, but at least I understand where Saban’s head was. This thing with Tomlin is just so junior high. It’s embarrassing to the team and to me as a fan.

  49. Nofoolnodrool says: Dec 7, 2013 3:46 PM

    grpatriot says:
    Dec 7, 2013 1:26 PM
    Why the big cheese eating grin? He knew exactly where he was and what he was doing! Big smile Mikey!

    1 1
    Report comment. I believe Tomlins reactive smile was to the video of his indiscretion being played over and over with the boos by the knuckle draggers getting louder as they foamed at the mouth. I would be smiling at their Pavlovian response in the same manner as they are quite a simple minded bunch that love to cry about the refs.

  50. Joemontanaflacco says: Dec 7, 2013 5:55 PM

    “I would be smiling at their Pavlovian response in the same manner as they are quite a simple minded bunch that love to cry about the refs.”

    I can’t imagine anything more Pavlovian that bringing up “Ray Lewis is a murderer” on every post. Now, fetch, Skippy.

  51. holeinone09 says: Dec 7, 2013 8:27 PM

    Tomlin made a big and embarrassing mistake, unintentionally IMO. It will never be proved either way, so everyone is entitled to their opinion. Possibly he got the benefit of the doubt due to no priors so he also didnt get suspended which I thought might happen for one game. As Deb said, he suffers the rep ding in addition to the fine, but he will get over it. Bellichek got over proven cheating. Steelers will likely not lose any draft picks, which was not an appropriate punishment. The precedent would have been terrible.

    Story is now over, move on to something jucier and more current.

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