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Rob Chudzinski: I’m sick about the outcome of the game

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The Browns held Tom Brady and the Patriots in check for most of Sunday’s game, but Brady was able to cash in on a couple of opportunities late in the game to lift the team to a 27-26 victory.

One of those opportunities came about because of a pass interference call in the end zone with less than a minute to play. Browns defensive back Leon McFadden was flagged for interfering with Patriots wide receiver Josh Boyce, a call that didn’t have a lot of evidence to support it when watching on several replays after the fact. Browns coach Rob Chudzinski said he was “sick about the outcome of the game” and made it clear he disagreed with the officials on that play.

“I did not. I felt like those two were both jostling for the ball and obviously, the penalty was called,” Chudzinski said in his postgame press conference. “So, at the end of the day it doesn’t really matter what I think.”

There was plenty of other disagreement with that call in the Browns locker room and there was also displeasure with a call on cornerback Jordan Poyer for hitting a defenseless receiver just before the fateful flag on McFadden. As Chudzinski said, though, it doesn’t much matter what the Browns think since there’s no way to take those final 13 Patriots points off the board.

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  1. 5150cd says: Dec 8, 2013 7:03 PM

    We all are, Chud. We all are.

  2. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 8, 2013 7:03 PM

    You should be, Chud. You guys were robbed.

  3. strokinmyego says: Dec 8, 2013 7:08 PM

    After seeing Boger screw the Patriots against the Jets then Blakeman screw them against the Panthers all I can say is misery loves company.

    That pass interference call was bad no doubt about it but it did not decide the game. There was still over 30 seconds left and with Brady that’s more than enough time to win a game.

    If Whittaker recovers that onside kick the Browns would have won. He didn’t and they lost. Before the refs made that call the Browns could have made the play to win and the Patriots succeeded where they failed.

  4. ralphwilsonisrich says: Dec 8, 2013 7:08 PM

    Nice flag ref! patriots are one lucky team.

  5. niko0063 says: Dec 8, 2013 7:08 PM

    “While it didn’t appear there was interference on the play, Tom Brady assured us that there was, so by rule, the ball will be placed at the 1 yard line”

  6. jh500 says: Dec 8, 2013 7:09 PM

    i am sick of the refs handing out wins to tom brady and company. what a joke

  7. doctorrustbelt says: Dec 8, 2013 7:09 PM

    That call is almost as bad as bush/cheney’s call on Iraq.

  8. doublezero74 says: Dec 8, 2013 7:09 PM

    Whatever. The browns are and always will be doormats. You should be used to losing anyway.

    That was a PI and it was called accurately. Stop your whining, losers like the browns should be way better at accepting losses, what with all their experience.

    Brady is amazing , is the takeaway from this game.

  9. ravenswhat says: Dec 8, 2013 7:11 PM

    What a hose job there. I guarantee most fans were trickling out of Foxboro before they recovered that onside kick. Joke of a fan base.

  10. pgilbert2013 says: Dec 8, 2013 7:12 PM

    Rob, all due respect we have a hell of a game going in the at the Stick.

    Lets save the self indulgence for a bit… Thanks.

  11. doctorrustbelt says: Dec 8, 2013 7:12 PM

    That call is almost as bad as Neville Chamberlain’s call on Czechoslavakia.

  12. thestrategyexpert says: Dec 8, 2013 7:13 PM

    Then he should petition the league and urge them to go with my Oversight System for quality control. Otherwise enjoy leaving your fate up to bizarre officiating decisions and processes.

  13. doctorrustbelt says: Dec 8, 2013 7:14 PM

    That call is almost as bad as Coca-Cola’s call on New Coke.

  14. Canyonero says: Dec 8, 2013 7:15 PM

    Dear Browns organization,

    Keep coach Chudzinski. Okay? Don’t go firing him after two seasons if he has a losing record. All right? The man can get results.

    If you want to change lousy team name, uniform and helmet, though, that would be cool.

  15. bubba99m says: Dec 8, 2013 7:15 PM

    Chud is just sick that his guys finally got caught. It’s all a matter of perspective. His is just a bit skewed.

  16. hittfamily says: Dec 8, 2013 7:16 PM

    The Montreal Screwjob has nothing on this. Mr McMahon would be proud!

  17. spd4r8trs says: Dec 8, 2013 7:16 PM

    Those two calls were beyond bad. Bring back the replacement refs over those bozo’s

  18. strokinmyego says: Dec 8, 2013 7:17 PM

    “That call is almost as bad as Coca-Cola’s call on New Coke.”

    That call was almost bad as the pathetic Texans dominating the Bengals and that fraud Andy Dalton in the playoffs. Twice.

  19. coltsreign says: Dec 8, 2013 7:19 PM

    As a colts fan im pissed off.
    I think Cundoff is done. Hell DO NOT APPROVE ANY CONTRACTS TO SIGN HIM.
    #OLREALABLE

  20. thumper00 says: Dec 8, 2013 7:19 PM

    wah wah wah how about going for 2points instead of 1 pat, and you had time to stop the pats up by 12 pts. If you can`t catch an onside kick you don`t deserve to win, wah wah wah cry me a river………………………

  21. buckeyeluvn says: Dec 8, 2013 7:20 PM

    No the take away and something we all have known….. The league will help Tom and Company win any way they can!

  22. kksred1994 says: Dec 8, 2013 7:21 PM

    I’ll agree that the intentional grounding call was bad but the Browns still scored 7 points on the drive after a questionable completion ruling.

    As for the PI, as far as I could tell, the CB had one hand over Boyce’s shoulder and another around his hip with the ball in the air. If that is not PI, I don’t know what is.

    And btw, it’s not like all of the calls have gone in favor of the Pats. Has everybody selectively forgotten the Jets and the Panthers game?

  23. schultzbrigade says: Dec 8, 2013 7:23 PM

    We won’t see Jerome Boger or Jeff Triplette’s crew working in the postseason thats for sure.

  24. 6ball says: Dec 8, 2013 7:26 PM

    .

    A Cleveland win and you pick 12th in the 1st round of the draft.

    With a loss you pick 6th

    Since the Browns are being built for 2014, come April you’ll be grateful for being jobbed.

    .

  25. ketch20too says: Dec 8, 2013 7:32 PM

    No one really thought the refs would let a Pats lose to the BROWNS did you?

  26. GenXJay says: Dec 8, 2013 7:33 PM

    Chud & All Day are on the same page about these officials.
    bring the scab officials back.

  27. rjp1130 says: Dec 8, 2013 7:35 PM

    The Patriots lucky? Please. It’s called referee payback. The Pats have been getting screwed all year. The Browns put it in hands of the refs by losing the onside kick. Good teams find ways to win while bad teams find ways to lose.

  28. fatsolio says: Dec 8, 2013 7:35 PM

    Pats never get calls going their way. At least that’s what all the moron Pats fans and the Pats loving media tries to flip reality to be.

    They get more questionable calls going their way than any team I have ever seen.

  29. plarkin88 says: Dec 8, 2013 7:37 PM

    What you should be sick about Chudickski, is the fact that your rookie DB was beaten so bad he couldn’t interfere more obviously. The only thing that made it ticky-tack was the space between Boyce and McFadden. If he was close he could have played the ball. He was beat, so he had to try and hold the man. Had McFadden not held at the 5, then interfered in the endzone, Boyce would have caught it in stride. Shut up and go back to teaching your safeties how to target knees.

  30. bengalskuta82 says: Dec 8, 2013 7:37 PM

    U play against TomBrady, u are playing against the whole nfl world. They’ll give him whatever he wants.Now you wonder why most players don’t like him.TSuggs is the only one that is outspoken about it.

  31. exnavysub says: Dec 8, 2013 7:40 PM

    First Browns game Ive watched in a while. This coach seems to be an alright guy and provided some more talent, I think he can have success. Hope he is allowed to keep his job.

    No one gave the Browns a chance. Jason Campbell at QB even. Yet they played well enough to win, and shouldve won, the game.

    The worst part about the officiating today was how the Browns really came to play and were basically robbed of what would’ve been an excellent win for them. I dont know what has gotten into the Refs lately, but some of them have been downright atrocious this year.

  32. melikefootball says: Dec 8, 2013 7:44 PM

    Good for you Rob, the league is blinded or may be the reason teams are losing game on obviously bad calls. There were at least three calls that changed the way this game was going. Time players and coaches start standing up for what most fans have seen long before now.

  33. frankiesweep says: Dec 8, 2013 7:44 PM

    Also shouldn’t have let them march right down the field for the first TD.

    They had been kept under control the entire game and then you go prevent..

    Well that helps to prevent victory too…

  34. harrisonhits2 says: Dec 8, 2013 7:45 PM

    The Pats have had numerous bad calls against them this year, as has EVERY team. The refs have been the worst I can ever remember them being in 48 years of watching the NFL

    They make very bad calls or non-calls ever single game that hurt every team in the league. This isn’t a pro Pats, or pro Panther or pro anyone thing, its that the refs are awful and the league needs a whole new system of training, enforcement and quality control.

    Every team has suffered this year because of the refs, all 32 of them.

  35. jasonculhane says: Dec 8, 2013 7:54 PM

    This is the worst Patriots team that’s 10-3 in recent memory…Clearly their relying on flags, lucky bounces, and hoping the other teams make mistakes. Should of lost last 3 weeks, lets face it, its like these guys got a cheat code in or something.

    Cleveland had horrible calls against them down the stretch and without the calls they win the game, plain and simple. That intentional grounding call was a conspiracy on its own. How far does Campbell have to be out of the pocket???

  36. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 8, 2013 7:58 PM

    kksred1994 says: Dec 8, 2013 7:21 PM

    I’ll agree that the intentional grounding call was bad but the Browns still scored 7 points on the drive after a questionable completion ruling.

    As for the PI, as far as I could tell, the CB had one hand over Boyce’s shoulder and another around his hip with the ball in the air. If that is not PI, I don’t know what is.

    And btw, it’s not like all of the calls have gone in favor of the Pats. Has everybody selectively forgotten the Jets and the Panthers game?
    —————-

    The Jets game was the proper call. We all know the Patriots were robbed vs. Carolina (so that the game tonight would be marketed to no end, which it has been).

    But you are going to single out one call against the Patriots and overlook 750 that were akin to that “pass interference” today?

    I’ve even seen people claim the Panther game washed away Spygate. You people (Patriots fans) cannot be serious.

  37. rahavort says: Dec 8, 2013 7:58 PM

    The same people whining about the calls that went in the Patriots favor today were the same ones tell Patriot fans to get over the call that happened at the end of the Carolina game and to move on. Practice what you preach and eat your words

  38. zfishman says: Dec 8, 2013 7:59 PM

    There were about 3 Patriots players off-sides on the onside kick, too.

  39. doctorrustbelt says: Dec 8, 2013 8:01 PM

    That call was almost as bad as McDonald’s call on 1984 Olympics Contest.

  40. bospat says: Dec 8, 2013 8:03 PM

    Doesn’t really matter bcse without Gronk Pats are doomed
    ? or are they ..Haters will be happy

  41. dickshotdogs says: Dec 8, 2013 8:04 PM

    Her we go Patriots, Here we go!

  42. matt14gg says: Dec 8, 2013 8:07 PM

    The people claiming the league “favors” the Patriots need to grow up. You sound like whiney fanboys. People are missing the big picture. As evidenced by two of the worst calls in recent memory, the Patriots have been just as badly screwed, on numerous occasions, as the Browns were today. The league DOES NOT favor any team over another, it favors close games that go down to the wire. For this reason the refs use penalties, and none more so than PI, to keep games close. The call against the Browns was awful. The non-call in the Pats- Panthers was awful. The call when the Patriots lost to the Jets was awful. It happens every week and to every team. Officiating in the NFL is terrible, regardless of what some puff piece by Peter King would have you believe, but one thing is for certain: the games are always close at the end and people continue to watch to the very end. The league knows exactly what it’s doing, but it couldn’t care less who wins.

  43. svensvenny says: Dec 8, 2013 8:07 PM

    That call was as bad as Pepsi clear

  44. sdakota says: Dec 8, 2013 8:08 PM

    did any one really think the refs would not throe a flag to turn the game in the brady’s favor? some things never change

  45. flash1283 says: Dec 8, 2013 8:10 PM

    If Whittaker recovers that onside kick the Browns would have won. He didn’t and they lost. Before the refs made that call the Browns could have made the play to win and the Patriots succeeded where they failed.—

    —-

    Perfect!!

  46. metintodd says: Dec 8, 2013 8:19 PM

    Browns get what they deserved. That was clearly an illegal hit with attempt to injure by TJ Ward on the Gronk. Seriously, going straight for the knee? He should be out as long as the Gronk is.

  47. metintodd says: Dec 8, 2013 8:22 PM

    And this was the same crew that gave the Jets a gift win over the Patriots on that bogus push call on the field goal attempt. Yeah, I’m sure they’re Patriot homers especially after they gave the Jets their gift win.

  48. bunkerhillbob says: Dec 8, 2013 8:23 PM

    I’m sick, too; that the Browns had to put a helmet on Gronk’s knee to end his season and the Pats’ hopes for going deep in the playoffs.

  49. flash1283 says: Dec 8, 2013 8:24 PM

    sdakota says:
    Dec 8, 2013 8:08 PM
    did any one really think the refs would not throe a flag to turn the game in the brady’s favor? some things never change


    You’re right some thing never change. The crybabies come out with an excuse every time the Patriots win!

  50. a03t says: Dec 8, 2013 8:25 PM

    buckeyeluvn says:
    Dec 8, 2013 7:20 PM
    No the take away and something we all have known….. The league will help Tom and Company win any way they can!
    ———————————————————–

    Like they did against the Jets/Panthers?

    Go back and watch that play again. You’ll see the pass interference around the 5 yard line.

  51. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 8, 2013 8:29 PM

    metintodd says: Dec 8, 2013 8:19 PM

    Browns get what they deserved. That was clearly an illegal hit with attempt to injure by TJ Ward on the Gronk. Seriously, going straight for the knee? He should be out as long as the Gronk is
    ————

    Put away the tinfoil hat.

  52. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 8, 2013 8:30 PM

    metintodd says: Dec 8, 2013 8:22 PM

    And this was the same crew that gave the Jets a gift win over the Patriots on that bogus push call on the field goal attempt. Yeah, I’m sure they’re Patriot homers especially after they gave the Jets their gift win.
    ———–

    It was the right call against NE in the Jets game. Period. Doesn’t negate THIS play, which you Patriots fans love to deflect attention away from by talking about other things.

  53. bullcharger says: Dec 8, 2013 8:32 PM

    The Patriots lost 2 games on strange calls this year. I know Browns fans don’t pay attention to the rest of the league (to avoid deep depression), but many teams have been jobbed by bad calls at the end of games this year. Blame it on the officials, not Brady. He’s gotten no favors this year. This one was a marginal call, not even outright bad. Even if it wasn’t called, Brady was still marching and the Browns had already basically blown the game.

    The Browns are clearly poor losers.

  54. nyjetsfan08 says: Dec 8, 2013 8:33 PM

    The DB didnt turn his head toward the football. That clinched the PI call.

  55. stoopidfool says: Dec 8, 2013 8:33 PM

    Stupid Afc north fans………good crybabies though

  56. iamapatsfan says: Dec 8, 2013 8:33 PM

    This is the exact same thing that happened to the Pats vs. Carolina. I remember many haters saying that the Pats sucked and if the game comes down to one flag (thrown or not thrown) then you don’t deserve to win.

    Now it’s the other way around, and everyone is complaining that the refs won it for the Pats…

    The problem is the refs inability to effectively call plays from game to game. How was that PI but Kuechly mobbing Gronk not?

    In the end, don’t call out the teams for bad ref calls (even though haters will still hate whatever team they don’t like, screaming conspiracy conveniently forgetting one week to the next…). Call out the refs and the NFL in order to force them to get better at it.

    And yes, as a Pats fan, I believe that was a pretty weak PI. He had his hand over the shoulder and another one around the opposite hip, but he wasn’t really impeding, it looked like. Maybe just enough to not let the hands get high enough to make the catch? Either way, questionable at absolute best.

  57. bullcharger says: Dec 8, 2013 8:37 PM

    Mr. Wright 212 says:
    Dec 8, 2013 8:30 PM
    metintodd says: Dec 8, 2013 8:22 PM

    And this was the same crew that gave the Jets a gift win over the Patriots on that bogus push call on the field goal attempt. Yeah, I’m sure they’re Patriot homers especially after they gave the Jets their gift win.
    ———–

    It was the right call against NE in the Jets game. Period. Doesn’t negate THIS play, which you Patriots fans love to deflect attention away from by talking about other things.

    —————

    Saying “Period” doesn’t make you right. It was a horrible call against the Jets. Game changing 15 yard ticky-tack penalty that had never been called ever in the league until that moment. Not to mention, the call against the Panthers. A marginal call that didn’t go the Patriots way.

    This call was marginal, but there was contact. Can you say he wouldn’t have caught it without the contact? It hit his hands with the contact.

    The refs called what they saw. After having two calls go against the Patriots earlier in the season it was nice to see one go their way this year. On average they have been treated fairly now.

  58. bullcharger says: Dec 8, 2013 8:38 PM

    Browns fans and Patriots haters… all the Browns had to do was recover an onside kick they knew was coming and the game was won.

  59. anth34 says: Dec 8, 2013 8:43 PM

    Not Browns fan.

  60. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 8, 2013 8:43 PM

    bullcharger says: Dec 8, 2013 8:38 PM

    Browns fans and Patriots haters… all the Browns had to do was recover an onside kick they knew was coming and the game was won.
    ———-

    Not a Patriot hater (my team owns them) and not a Browns fan. Most of the people correctly complaining here are not a fan of either team NOR rival teams of the Patriots. That ought to tell you a lot more than Patriots fans naturally trying to deflect.

  61. jr507 says: Dec 8, 2013 8:50 PM

    Pats fans are the most deluded bunch on the planet. They defend the tuck rule as proper enforcement of the rules yet claim they got jobbed against the Jets – in which a bad rule was enforced in perfect accordance to the rulebook.

    Then they dismiss over decade if phantom PI and Roughing the Passer penalties that always seem to occur in these “magical” comebacks simply because – for once – they had a call go against them in an inter-conference, regular season game.

    It must be beautiful to live in fantasy land.

  62. matthewmacisaac says: Dec 8, 2013 8:51 PM

    As a Browns fan, I’ll agree that they had plenty of chances to not get to this point, but that was a terrible PI call. There were other bad calls that didn’t go the Browns way that I thought made the officials look bad but this one made them look as if they should be reffing in the WWE. To the Patriots fans that say the refs robbed us against Carolina- I agree but that doesn’t make it right by having refs hand you a win today. The only thing that is as bad as some of these ref’s calls is their make-up calls. Don’t blow the first call and they won’t have to have a make-up call. If I was McFadden I’d have gotten my money’s worth and punched that ref in the face, since you know the NFL won’t do anything about him. He should be fired. I know that if I screwed up on my job that badly, I’d be out the door. The crew that screwed the Patriots against Carolina should be fired, too.

  63. kate773 says: Dec 8, 2013 8:52 PM

    I wonder how many people complaining and saying this call has nothing to do with the non-call in Carolina are the same ones saying that the non-call (and every other bad call against the Pats) was karma for the Tuck Rule?

    It was a dubious call today. I’ll own it. I’ll also take it. The calls even out for everyone over a season. No one shed any tears for the Pats in the Carolina or Jets games, I’m not shedding tears for the Browns. Pats lost Gronk today so they probably won’t get far this season anyway. I’ll be cheering for them regardless.

  64. spfripp says: Dec 8, 2013 8:52 PM

    Is it me or dose it seem that the refs makes calls in favor of one team over another. The Pats have a long history of questionable calls that have gone in their favor. It is almost like WWE.

  65. tigerlilac says: Dec 8, 2013 8:57 PM

    A great, hard fought game goes unappreciated by the majority of posters to this thread because the refs were very visible in the late stages of the game. One of the things I love about Belichick is that he never blames anyone for a loss. If the Patriots lose it is on every player and every coach (never the refs), even the Carolina and Jets losses that were gifted to the other team by the refs. Alas, Coach Chudzinski does not share Bill’s philosophy. Maybe Chudzinski can also opine on the the quick whistle that took a turnover away from the Patriots and gave the Browns three points; the lack of a call on the Browns’ defensive lineman that made helmet-to-helmet contact with Blount when he was already down; the offensive holding (downfield and at the line of scrimmage) on virtually every pass play that went uncalled; and explain how a guy that let’s a receiver get behind him to the end zone and grabs him from behind equates to them “both jostling for the ball”.

  66. 3taintedchampionships2biglosses says: Dec 8, 2013 9:00 PM

    Pats cheat and get home field calls. Not your fault.

  67. pastabelly says: Dec 8, 2013 9:01 PM

    There was definitely PI on the Browns DB at the 6. The stuff in the the endzone seemed more incidental. There was a lot of contact initiated by the Cleveland player and a call was not surprising. The Pats pass rush was non existent as was the first half offense.

  68. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 8, 2013 9:02 PM

    kate773 says: Dec 8, 2013 8:52 PM

    I wonder how many people complaining and saying this call has nothing to do with the non-call in Carolina are the same ones saying that the non-call (and every other bad call against the Pats) was karma for the Tuck Rule?

    It was a dubious call today. I’ll own it. I’ll also take it. The calls even out for everyone over a season. No one shed any tears for the Pats in the Carolina or Jets games, I’m not shedding tears for the Browns. Pats lost Gronk today so they probably won’t get far this season anyway. I’ll be cheering for them regardless.
    ——————–

    Why can’t you just say it was a bad call without trying to build in an alibi by bringing up earlier games this season? You still aren’t “owning” it.

  69. dsigrey says: Dec 8, 2013 9:05 PM

    How can all of you think the Pats get all the calls? Have you actually watched the games this year or are you just taking the trolls words for it? The refs have cost them 2 games this year on one bogus call and suspect call that the Jets did earlier in the same game. Get over it, the refs missed plenty of calls that should have gone against the Browns including a pass interference.

  70. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 8, 2013 9:08 PM

    jr507 says: Dec 8, 2013 8:50 PM

    Pats fans are the most deluded bunch on the planet. They defend the tuck rule as proper enforcement of the rules yet claim they got jobbed against the Jets – in which a bad rule was enforced in perfect accordance to the rulebook.

    Then they dismiss over decade if phantom PI and Roughing the Passer penalties that always seem to occur in these “magical” comebacks simply because – for once – they had a call go against them in an inter-conference, regular season game.

    It must be beautiful to live in fantasy land.
    ——————

    CORRECT. 100%.

  71. tattooit says: Dec 8, 2013 9:12 PM

    TEARS! TEARS! ALL OF THE DELICIOUS TEARS! MUAHAHAHAHAHA

  72. marima07 says: Dec 8, 2013 9:13 PM

    Why no mention of the referee whistle that was so quick, it negated a fumble by the Browns and led to three points?

    Receiver was mid-air when the ball was stripped out and the whistle blown. The ball was scooped up by the Pats and would have been returned for a TD. Instead the Browns get the ball back.

  73. brownsfan39 says: Dec 8, 2013 9:27 PM

    The Browns didn’t deserve to lose! The refs gave the game to New England. I’m usually pissed at the Browns for blowing games, but this time it was the refs who blew it, and not by accident!

  74. brazzz01 says: Dec 8, 2013 9:36 PM

    It was pass interference.

    The defender clearly tugged at the receiver and the flag gets thrown 100% of the time in today’s NFL.

    Poor, poor Patriot haters. So close… and yet so far. Maybe next time huh?

  75. Patskrieg dot com says: Dec 8, 2013 9:38 PM

    Geez, was that a bad PI call? I have no idea. When Patriots fans protested 2 highly suspicious game changing calls earlier in the year we were told to shut up and take it because the referees know what they’re doing. So I guess they must have nailed this call too.

    And really. With all the momentum going the Patriots way… Brady in a groove… do you really think the Browns would have stopped Brady on that drive? The more likely scenario would have been a drive down the field and a touchdown in the final seconds, sparing us all the sight of Billy Cundiff whiffing on a field goal. Numnumnum. Lovin’ those tears.

  76. brazzz01 says: Dec 8, 2013 9:38 PM

    Why is every Patriot hater in existence a moron who knows squat about the NFL?

    Inquiring minds need to know….

  77. bigwii says: Dec 8, 2013 9:42 PM

    I’m glad he’s sick who cares about the Browns they’re irrelevant in this league. The Patriots are sick that TJ Ward can’t tackle Gronk clean so he has to drive his helmet into his knee to stop him. There was plenty of ways to tackle him like wrapping up his legs instead of going helmet first into his knee.

    That makes me sick I don’t expect anyone to feel sorry for the Pats, mostly because of the jealousy of most you haters but I guess that’s the only way to beat them. If you can’t beat them injure them, pathetic.

  78. flash1283 says: Dec 8, 2013 9:42 PM

    brownsfan39 says:
    Dec 8, 2013 9:27 PM
    The Browns didn’t deserve to lose! The refs gave the game to New England. I’m usually pissed at the Browns for blowing games, but this time it was the refs who blew it, and not by accident!


    As soon as the Browns failed to recover the onside kick they new was coming they deserved to lose.

  79. sidelineshot says: Dec 8, 2013 9:42 PM

    Like the saying goes … Bad teams find all kinds of ways to lose.

  80. brazzz01 says: Dec 8, 2013 9:51 PM

    Geez, was that a bad PI call? I have no idea. When Patriots fans protested 2 highly suspicious game changing calls earlier in the year we were told to shut up and take it because the referees know what they’re doing. So I guess they must have nailed this call too.

    Welcome to the twisted logic world of Patriot haters.

    Just laugh at them, like I do. It’s fun!

  81. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 8, 2013 9:56 PM

    bigwii says: Dec 8, 2013 9:42 PM

    I’m glad he’s sick who cares about the Browns they’re irrelevant in this league. The Patriots are sick that TJ Ward can’t tackle Gronk clean so he has to drive his helmet into his knee to stop him. There was plenty of ways to tackle him like wrapping up his legs instead of going helmet first into his knee.

    That makes me sick I don’t expect anyone to feel sorry for the Pats, mostly because of the jealousy of most you haters but I guess that’s the only way to beat them. If you can’t beat them injure them, pathetic.
    ————–

    It was a 100% clean and legal hit, clown.

  82. aljack88 says: Dec 8, 2013 9:58 PM

    Mr. Wright 212 says:
    Dec 8, 2013 9:02 PM
    kate773 says: Dec 8, 2013 8:52 PM

    It was a dubious call today. I’ll own it. I’ll also take it. The calls even out for everyone over a season.
    ——————–

    Why can’t you just say it was a bad call without trying to build in an alibi by bringing up earlier games this season? You still aren’t “owning” it.

    —————————————————

    Hey Mr self righteous, kate called it a “dubious call”, and certainly doesn’t have to do anything to gain your approval. And you and your “loyal fans” calling for Coughlin’s head yet?

  83. brazzz01 says: Dec 8, 2013 9:59 PM

    Hey Coach!
    What are your thoughts on your moronic decision to go for 2 up 12-0 in this game that ultimately cost your team the ballgame?

    Was that the refs fault?

  84. mtrhead269 says: Dec 8, 2013 10:05 PM

    This crew missed calls the whole game. How about the fumble before the whistle in the First quarter?

    Guess that one was OK.

    These paly have a way of evening out. Horrible calls in the SF-SEA game as well.

    Too bad about the injury to #87 here hoping for a speedy and full recovery

  85. aljack88 says: Dec 8, 2013 10:06 PM

    I’m sure Chudzinski would be feeling really sick if Josh Gordon took a shot to the knee by a DB who tackles like Ward. There’s no offense without Gordon.

  86. totallysirius says: Dec 8, 2013 10:32 PM

    Hey aljack, the Browns already know what its like with the cheap shot on Hoyer while he was sliding, his career may be over.

    Happy now?

    Maybe you should be upset with the league for rules that make low hits the only legal way to tackle a receiver.

    That said, I find it amazing that the only people who think that interference call was a good call are Patriot fans and Browns haters.

    Even those famous Browns fans, Cowher and Esiason said it was bogus.

  87. alloutblitz644 says: Dec 8, 2013 10:33 PM

    Crap call obviously, but every team in the league has dealt with those types of calls. Sometimes it results in a loss, but usually the team focuses on the few plays that they could’ve/should’ve made that would’ve prevented the officials from playing a factor in the outcome. Learn from it and move on.

  88. bigdaddy44 says: Dec 8, 2013 11:16 PM

    Listen to Ward’s comments after the game about trying to hit guys low. Combine that with the replay from high in the end zone and it is clear that Ward zeroed in on Gronkowski’s knees. Don’t care if it was legal, it was intent to injure. So I have only one thing to say to all of you crying about the end of the game – karma is a bitch!

  89. marima07 says: Dec 8, 2013 11:35 PM

    Defender never turned his head. That’s why the flag was thrown.

    Lord knows how many times Pats fans have screamed at the TV urging their defenders to turn their heads. Flags fly every time because of it.

  90. akietz31 says: Dec 9, 2013 12:07 AM

    Those refs are more bias than the officiating crew in The Longest Yard

  91. barbershopzach says: Dec 9, 2013 1:13 AM

    And the hit on Wab Gwankowski was within the realm of rules. Your kicker Ghoskamawhatski touching the ball before it went 10 yards was not. You got that? Or would you like me to repeat it again without the Rs?

  92. bbwasright says: Dec 9, 2013 1:26 AM

    Did we watch the same game?! There were A LOT of bad calls and several blatant missed calls – both ways. In the first Cleveland TD, a blatant offensive pass interference call against Gordon was missed that brought Aqib Talib the the ground before the ball got to Barnidge – resulting in him being one-on-one against a safety out of position. Indeed, the Patriots were also called for a phantom pass interference earlier in the game that sustained the drive resulting in Cameron’s TD. Neither team played very well, but either was in a position to win if they made plays in the last few minutes of the game. The fact is, the Patriots made those plays, and Cleveland didn’t. End of story.

    Of course, in the end, this game probably cost them any chance of making it to the Super Bowl. You can only lose so many stars and replace them with rookies before you don’t have enough to get the job done.

  93. mrmidevil says: Dec 9, 2013 2:22 AM

    Nfl gave this game to NE. Goodell and Kraft are best buds!

  94. mrmidevil says: Dec 9, 2013 2:25 AM

    Might be something to those comments made last week. Get blown out first half and mistically change to male come back! Sounds like cheating!!!!!!

  95. lanman11 says: Dec 9, 2013 2:43 AM

    What’s sick is what Ward did. It just wasn’t necessary and he knew the outcome could be very bad, and it was. Dirtbag. I would feel like crap if someone on my team made that kind of hit.

  96. patpatriot7 says: Dec 9, 2013 6:59 AM

    Patriots are now 1-2 in games decided by referees in 2012. How is that “lucky?” What did all these results have in common? The home team got the call.
    Check any of the other games where this happened – a close/questionable/judgement call by an official affected the outcome – and I’d bet you’d be hard pressed to find an instance where the visiting team got the benefit of the call!

  97. bnn52 says: Dec 9, 2013 8:22 AM

    Hey Pats fans who are whining about the hit on Gronk, 100% legal. You can blame the NFL for this, there is no way that a safety or DB can hit a player without criticism or penalty. Lets be honest, its just a blessing in disguise for you, because we all know you werent going to the Super Bowl anyway. Browns flat out beat you yesterday and the PI call was terrible. The NFL will do whatever it can to get the Pats a home game in the playoffs so their wallets can get fatter and fatter.

  98. emmac13 says: Dec 9, 2013 8:25 AM

    You know it is a hose job when you use all of your challenges and win them. Yet the the officials still make calls that affect the outcome. But the lose will help the Browns draft higher. They have no chance to win the SB. The Pats offense is the biggest bunch of whiners always looking for a flag. The Grok hit was legal. It is what happens when you cannot hit high. You hit low. If the Pats fans don’t like it their team can where flag belts. Edelman is the biggest crybaby. The hit on him was legal. In the shoulder and a last attempt to jar the ball. That team really misses Wes. That guy is a straight up playa. Edelman big sissy.

  99. erikinhell says: Dec 9, 2013 8:39 AM

    mtrhead269 says:
    Dec 8, 2013 10:05 PM
    This crew missed calls the whole game. How about the fumble before the whistle in the First quarter?
    ============================
    You’re kidding, right? The Browns player was pushed 5 yards back before being thrown for another 5 yards. I guess that old, “forward progress” rule doesn’t count when it benefits your team?

  100. rahavort says: Dec 9, 2013 9:40 AM

    All of the Patriot haters’ misery is excellent this morning. Keep on whining about calls that went in our favor! It’s hilarious. Everyone is saying the refs gave away the game. If the Browns could recover the onside kick they would have won the game; they couldn’t so they lost. Don’t like the call? Might need a waaaaaaahmbulance

  101. rahavort says: Dec 9, 2013 9:43 AM

    Oh and yes the hit on Gronk was legal, it’s a shame the rules now make defenders tackle at the knees. Legal but a brutal hit that is obviously going to have impact going forward, no crying from this pats fan. Injuries happen and the New England roster is like an assembly line; next man up

  102. brazzz01 says: Dec 9, 2013 9:45 AM

    I looked at the play again today..

    Receiver was still yanked at the 7. Still no attempt by the defender to look back at the ball. Defender still grabbed the elbow and still had a hand to the face mask.

    Still pass interference. Still the right call.

    Sorry coach. Sorry Browns fans…tough loss.

    No such apology for Pats haters. We already know these clowns would be telling Pats fans to get over it if the shoe was on the other foot. See game, Panthers. So still LOL @ them.

  103. brazzz01 says: Dec 9, 2013 9:47 AM

    mistically change to male

    ——–

    ^

    This made me laugh

  104. brazzz01 says: Dec 9, 2013 9:59 AM

    Of course, in the end, this game probably cost them any chance of making it to the Super Bowl.

    —–

    I would agree with that except for the fact there are no great teams in the AFC this year. That’s why an injury crippled Patriots team can’t be counted out…. but I think they would do well to avoid having to play teams that are unfavorable match ups for them. Like the Bengals and Ravens….and probably the Chiefs…

  105. aljack88 says: Dec 9, 2013 11:33 AM

    totallysirius says:
    Dec 8, 2013 10:32 PM
    Hey aljack, the Browns already know what its like with the cheap shot on Hoyer while he was sliding, his career may be over.

    Happy now?

    Maybe you should be upset with the league for rules that make low hits the only legal way to tackle a receiver.

    That said, I find it amazing that the only people who think that interference call was a good call are Patriot fans and Browns haters.

    Even those famous Browns fans, Cowher and Esiason said it was bogus.
    ——————————————————–

    We in New England know Hoyer well. He learned to play Pro QB while with the Pats. There are many here who were upset with that play.

    I don’t see why Ward had to target the knee when another Brown was engaged in tackling up high. That’s a cheap shot. It’s a penalty for O linemen to engage a D lineman high and low at the same time.

    I won’t call that P.I. a good call, but I’ve seen a lot worse and there’s been a lot worse. It wasn’t out of the “norm” for what some refs call P.I. There was some contact so the refs flagged it. If that had happened to Gordon and no flag was thrown, we would be reading something different today.

    Cowher still hasn’t gotten over his dislike of the Pats so I wouldn’t pay any attention to his biased opinions in anything regarding the Patriots.

  106. aljack88 says: Dec 9, 2013 11:40 AM

    bnn52 says:
    Dec 9, 2013 8:22 AM
    ” …..Lets be honest, its just a blessing in disguise for you, because we all know you werent going to the Super Bowl anyway……..The NFL will do whatever it can to get the Pats a home game in the playoffs so their wallets can get fatter and fatter…..”
    ———————————————————-

    So what is it, the Pats are going to the playoffs because the NFL will do anything to make sure their wallets get fatter or it’s a blessing that they lost one of their key players and won’t make the playoffs? Enlighten me with some more of your spew.

  107. jerruhjones says: Dec 9, 2013 11:45 AM

    brazzz01 says:
    Dec 8, 2013 9:36 PM
    It was pass interference.

    The defender clearly tugged at the receiver and the flag gets thrown 100% of the time in today’s NFL.

    Poor, poor Patriot haters. So close… and yet so far. Maybe next time huh?

    =================================

    Maybe Pats and Browns fans can watch the playoffs together since neither team will be there!

    Next time, huh? bwahahahahahhaaaa….

  108. brazzz01 says: Dec 9, 2013 12:13 PM

    I wonder what the coach thinks of the two idiotic timeouts he used earlier in the half… therefore having none left at the end of the game and forcing Cundiff to try a 58 yard FG at the end.

    I guess that’s the refs fault too.

  109. footballchic777 says: Dec 9, 2013 12:55 PM

    I have got to agree. That was a totally bogus call that in every other game is allowed to play out……. ESPECIALLY at the end of a game! The Patriots were handed a win with that bad call, and the Browns were robbed of a great win!

  110. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 9, 2013 1:22 PM

    Goodness I hate the “bad calls both ways” cop out types. Worse than hearing “offsetting penalties.”

  111. ProFootballTalkSucks says: Dec 9, 2013 1:32 PM

    Goodell and Kraft are very good friends. This is Just Goodell doing his buddy a solid by telling officials to give the Patriots preferential treatment. He did it with SpyGate when he destroyed all of the evidence and he’s doing it again. Do you not realize how long it’s been since The Patriots won a Super Bowl? Kraft is getting impatient with Goodell and he’s under a lot of pressure.

  112. patpatriot7 says: Dec 9, 2013 2:28 PM

    If it does, according to your “handle,” its because of inane posters like you. If that were true, where was Goddell and the preferential treatment in the games against the Jets and the Panthers? As stated previously, the home team always gets the benefit of the close calls. That’s the only “preferential treatment” that occurs in the NFL.

    “Do you realize how long it’s been since the Patriots won a Super Bowl?” You make it sound like its easy – only six other teams in a 32-team league can claim they have done so since they won their last Lombardi Trophy. And they were in it twice during that time. The Patriots are the most successful franchise in the salary cap era and are in the playoffs every year. I’m guessing there aren’t too many pro football fans that teams wouldn’t be content to know their team was competitive EVERY year. And this year will be no exception, despite the loss for the season (or longer) of key players like Hernandez, Wolfork, Kelly, Mayo, Vollmer and now Gronkowski. While the odds to return to the Super Bowl don’t look great right now, they’re better than they were for making up a 12 point deficit on Sunday with only 2:39 minutes remaining!!!

  113. ProFootballTalkSucks says: Dec 9, 2013 3:22 PM

    The officials will come through for the Krafts, they always do. No team has had more controversy surrounding the WAY they’ve won games in recent years. Why do you think that is? Why do you think Goodell destroyed the remaining evidence?

    But I do think it’s adorable the way people still think games are being decided by the teams on the field rather than the league office.

  114. erikinhell says: Dec 9, 2013 3:26 PM

    totallysirius says:
    Dec 8, 2013 10:32 PM
    I don’t see why Ward had to target the knee when another Brown was engaged in tackling up high. That’s a cheap shot. It’s a penalty for O linemen to engage a D lineman high and low at the same time.
    =============================
    I can give you several reasons.
    1. We’ve all seen Gronkowski shake off tacklers, he’s 6-5 and 260lbs, and he’s a tank.
    2. As Ward said, if he hits him high, it’s a penalty or fine.
    3. Ward went low, as the other defender was already high. Anyone who’s played football knows your chances are better of bringing someone down if you take their legs out from under them.
    4. As fast as they were moving, do you really think Ward went for the knee specifically, or he just went low and got the knee?

    Bad things can happen in football. Injuries happen all the time. Your team should find a replacement like other teams are forced to do.

  115. erikinhell says: Dec 9, 2013 3:36 PM

    brazzz01 says:
    Dec 9, 2013 9:45 AM
    I looked at the play again today..

    Receiver was still yanked at the 7. Still no attempt by the defender to look back at the ball. Defender still grabbed the elbow and still had a hand to the face mask.

    Still pass interference. Still the right call.
    ================================
    My biggest complaint about the refs is the inconsistancy of the calls. You can watch WRs and DBs grab onto each other all game long, with no calls. At best, if the WR was yanked at the 7, it’s holding, not PI. The ball was also overthrown. I’d almost put money on it that the pats have that particular PI play in their playbook, just for the chance of getting a PI call in the endzone (brady throws the ball out of range, and the WRs just streaks to the endzone and turns around). It’s a crap call because there was barely any contact between the WR and DB, and you can see far more contact on just about any pass play. Once again, inconsistancy is the problem.

    The Browns lost that game because they let the pats back into the game. They should have kept pressing the offense with a very agressive D, instead of letting them have the short stuff for a TD. The ‘defenseless receiver’ and crap PI call didn’t help the Browns cause, but they lost the game due to changing defensive tactics. Chud is a Browns fan and should know better than prevent style defenses.

  116. bryce57 says: Dec 9, 2013 4:12 PM

    As a Browns Fan it does not matter if the call was bad or not. Good teams win and bad teams find ways to loose.

    I will say that the Browns are sticking close instead of blow outs like in the past. We are showing we have some talant. OH WELL OUR MOTTO WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR.

    AND DON”T FIRE THE COACH.

  117. doe22us says: Dec 9, 2013 4:31 PM

    schultzbrigade says:
    Dec 8, 2013 7:23 PM
    We won’t see Jerome Boger or Jeff Triplette’s crew working in the postseason thats for sure.

    And Pete Morelli’s what a bunch these refs are..

  118. patpatriot7 says: Dec 9, 2013 5:10 PM

    PTRS. Why even bother watching the games if you feel that way? Spend your Sundays watching movies, collecting stamps or mowing the lawn – less stressful, especially if you are a fan of a team like the Jets, Bills, Raiders, Texans, Jaguars, Vikings, Buccs, Redskins or Burrowns – to name a few. BTW. When was the last time one of THEM won a Super Bowl. What team DO/DID you follow?
    Goddell had extensive experience in the league. He was appointed executive VP and Chief Operating Officer under Mr. Tagliabue and was well versed to serve as his successor after having headed the league’s football and business operations which saw him directly involved in every phase of NFL football operations – officiating, business functions; negotiating the collective bargaining agreement with NFLPA; supervised league functions; NFL Ventures, which included overseeing media prop0erties, marketing and sales, stadium development and strategic planning and was heavily involved in founding the NFL Network and securing new, lucative TV contracts.
    Goddell was Tagliabue’s personal choice and was unanimously chosen by the 28 owners (at the time) as his successor on August 8, 2006. So, he is employed by and works for all the owners. So “to say that Goddell and Kraft are good friends” shows a lack of knowledge.
    One of Goddell’s first acts at the beginning of the 2007 season was to send EVERY team a written memorandum that videotaping FROM THE SIDELINES would henceforth be enforced by the league. There is no rule about videotaping games – every team did it, including having someone from the video department filming on the sidelines. BUT BB was the only coach who did not stop the practice. On September 13, 2007 the Patriots were disciplined by Goddell for video-taping from the field in their opening game with the Jets on September 9th. Belichick was fined the league maximum of $500,000 and the team another $250,000 and the loss of a No. 1 draft choice. Goddell said he came down hard on the Patriots because of Belichick’s overall role in the Patriots operation. He also considered a suspension , but decided against it because he felt the penalties “more than affective” over a suspension. The Patriots proceeded to go undefeated (13-0) losing 17-14 and again in 2012, losing 21-17 to the Giants.
    As for Bill Belichick, he is in his 14th season in NE and has a 161-60 record (.729), won 13 division championships (tied in the other, but lost in the tiebreaker with the Dolphins), five conference championships and three Super Bowls. And the Patriots have won ten or more games in 12 of those seasons.
    Your problem MIGHT be that the Patriots win because they are the best run operation in football. As for Bob Kraft, he bought the team to keep it in NE, invested his own money in a new stadium and gave up a draft choice to bring Belichick to NE as coach.

  119. originalsteelcurtain says: Dec 9, 2013 7:07 PM

    Roger Goodell has made Amerca’s favorite sport, once a simple game, very complicated with the yearly rule changes.

    The over-regulation of the NFL has put the Ref’s in a no-win situation as the Ref’s are forced to huddle several times a game to sort things out…what was once rare is now way too common.

    Was there PI on the critical play that ultimately determined the outcome? Probably, but there is PI almost every deep throw, and illegal contact on almost every short throw.

    Should the penalty have been called given the end-of-game situation? Probably not, as the PI was pretty minimal.

    The problem is the Commish and his over-regulation of the game I know and (use to) love. How do the fans get a new Commish who will de-regulate the NFL?

  120. njd75 says: Dec 10, 2013 9:12 AM

    Not that I agree with the calls at the end of the game, they were bad, but lets not forget the terrible call where they blew the play dead on a fumble that would have easily led to a touchdown. These refs were horrible and this game wasn’t the first time for this crew.

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