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Gronkowski suffered a concussion, too

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The NFL wants defenseless receivers to be hit low and not high to protect said defenseless receivers from getting concussions.  But low hits can result in knee injuries.

They also can result in concussions.

Per a league source, Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski suffered a concussion along with his knee injury as a result of the hit he absorbed from Browns defensive back T.J. Ward.  Gronkowski’s head banged against the turf at Gillette Stadium after Ward’s shot to the knee toppled Gronkowski to the ground.

The concussion, we’re told, is slight.  But it’s still a concussion.

Which provides a different context for the question of whether a defenseless receiver would prefer a high hit and a concussion to a low hit and a knee injury.  For some low hits, the defenseless receiver gets both.

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  1. doctorrustbelt says: Dec 9, 2013 1:44 PM

    … by 190 lb. T.J. Ward.

  2. towniesman says: Dec 9, 2013 1:46 PM

    ward is a predator who should be banished from the league….DIRTBAG

  3. patriotsarespygaters says: Dec 9, 2013 1:46 PM

    ROFLMAO
    Karma is a Biatch
    Spygate
    Cheaters
    Welker made Brady
    0-2 in superbowls without videotaping and stealing signals

  4. linvillegorge says: Dec 9, 2013 1:48 PM

    Great player, but this guy is truly made of glass. Reminds me of former Panthers MLB Dan Morgan. Absolutely hell on wheels when he was on the field, but he was rarely on the field due to injuries.

  5. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 9, 2013 1:48 PM

    Patriots fans always thinking someone has it in for them. It’s tired. Just like fans of all the other Boston teams.

  6. thepftpoet says: Dec 9, 2013 1:48 PM

    Gronkowski being a free agent next year now has a chance to join the impending Vikings dynasty and win multiple superbowls.

  7. nagaswan says: Dec 9, 2013 1:48 PM

    There is nothing to suggest that taking a hit to the head during the tackle would have prevented his head from hitting the ground. In other words, would you rather have a very serious head trauma followed by a less serious, or just the less serious and a knee injury.

    Was he really defenseless? Would a helmet to helmet really have been a penalty? He was looking at the tackler and took a couple steps, seems like he just doesn’t know how to take a hit.

  8. kingpel says: Dec 9, 2013 1:50 PM

    Smashing head first into ground that is frozen solid will do that.

  9. johnnyjagfan says: Dec 9, 2013 1:51 PM

    I wouldn’t “know how to take a hit” if a guy dove at my kneecap. Ridiculous.

  10. doctorrustbelt says: Dec 9, 2013 1:52 PM

    The way those referees cheated for the patriots in the end … you know they would have called T.J. Ward for some bogus call (if he went high).

  11. Adrian Peterson says: Dec 9, 2013 1:53 PM

    I’ll play TE if you trade for me.

  12. weepingjebus says: Dec 9, 2013 1:53 PM

    The most amazing part was that after the concussion he went straight over to Harvard and gave a lecture to the math department that received a standing ovation.

  13. Adrian Peterson says: Dec 9, 2013 1:53 PM

    Anything to get me off this dumpster fire of a team. I’ll even wash your cars.

  14. joetoronto says: Dec 9, 2013 1:57 PM

    He’s not much of an asset if he’s never on the field.

  15. spoilerfutbol says: Dec 9, 2013 1:57 PM

    Haters in this site need to use their brains, someone is calling him injury prone because a hit destroyed his knee, seriously?

  16. jimmyt says: Dec 9, 2013 1:58 PM

    I saw a GIF of BB giving Ward the Death Stare, like the rules are the players fault.

  17. jonbeck316 says: Dec 9, 2013 1:58 PM

    It’s pretty sick to see the patriots haters celebrate injuries to our players. Grow up!

  18. sammer81 says: Dec 9, 2013 2:00 PM

    As much as I love watching how hard it is to bring him down so many times in the past he needs to go down. When he is holding himself up for those extra yards he leaves himself too vulnerable.

    Patriots don’t cheat, they just try harder

  19. zombiepatriot says: Dec 9, 2013 2:00 PM

    If the NFL wanted to protect players they would also look to fine players for unnecessary hits which do not result in injury.

    What I’m thinking about is in yesterdays game there was a point where Blout was on his way to the ground, with three players holding on to his body and just before he hits the ground a fourth Brown came and hit him with a helmet to helmet hit.

    To me a hit such as that is worth a fine just as much, if not more, than a hit to the head where the QB ducks while the defensive player is in motion.

  20. hwentworth says: Dec 9, 2013 2:01 PM

    patriotsarespygaters says:
    Dec 9, 2013 1:46 PM
    ROFLMAO
    Karma is a Biatch
    Spygate
    Cheaters
    Welker made Brady
    0-2 in superbowls without videotaping and stealing signals

    Welker made Brady, even though Brady won three Super Bowls without him. Oh, okay.

  21. seatownballers says: Dec 9, 2013 2:02 PM

    I thought Amendola is the one made of glass

  22. jdubkc says: Dec 9, 2013 2:04 PM

    Fake “turf” should be banned.

  23. peytonwantsaflag says: Dec 9, 2013 2:04 PM

    Sooooo….

    the blown out knee was for naught then? Wound up getting his bell rung anyway.

    (I swear when will people learn, you can’t dictate this stuff – nature’s going to do what she wants. Ever seen Jurassic Park?)

  24. FlashPatterson says: Dec 9, 2013 2:05 PM

    There’s no way to make the game safe. Just have all players sign waivers so they can’t sue and then get back to real football. Inform them of the dangers and then let them choose if the risk is worth it.

  25. govtminion says: Dec 9, 2013 2:05 PM

    I will never cease to be amazed by people who laugh at a player for getting hurt, hiding behind it being ‘karma’ for what his team did or ‘because he sucks’ or whatever. Congratulations for being able to hide behind a screen name and talk trash about people you don’t know.

  26. patriotsarespygaters says: Dec 9, 2013 2:06 PM

    gronkowski down next shane vereen Pats are made of glass. amendola i won’t even bother

  27. sod61 says: Dec 9, 2013 2:09 PM

    Not taking sides for anyone but could someone tell me how a guy outweighed by 60-70lbs is supposed to tackle Gronkowski?

  28. zam0854 says: Dec 9, 2013 2:09 PM

    All hating aside…I feel bad for Gronk. With that said, it wasn’t an illegal hit BUT..BUT TJ Ward is a ‘female dog’ for hitting someone 6’6 at his knees.

  29. wikidpissah says: Dec 9, 2013 2:12 PM

    linvillegorge says: Dec 9, 2013 1:48 PM

    Great player, but this guy is truly made of glass.
    ———————————————-
    Have you seen the plays he got hurt on? If you want to say that the way he plays makes him prone to injury, you may have a point. But made of glass?

    There isn’t a single player in the NFL who could have taken that hit without the same result. NFL players experience dozens of collisions every game that are harder than most of us will ever experience once in our lives.

  30. mikep363839 says: Dec 9, 2013 2:13 PM

    As not just a Pats fan but a Gronk fan as well the hit wasn’t dirty. Goodell is the dirtbag that should be banished from the league. There you go Roger over 40 players are out for the season and your refs suck.
    Your ruining the NFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    People that think Gronk is made of glass should be drug tested let me roll your ankle and hit your knee from the side like that and let’s see what happens.

  31. nflofficeadmin says: Dec 9, 2013 2:13 PM

    There was a point in time when I thought Gronk had a chance to dominate, but his body just isn’t going to go the distance. He’s snapping apart like thigh and wing joints on Thanksgiving.

  32. metintodd says: Dec 9, 2013 2:14 PM

    The NFL should be in crisis mode. Ward takes out Gronk with a cheap shot at his knee and a concussion, yet no penalty and no suspension. If this is a legal play, then any parent would have to be out of their minds to let their kid play football. Today is the day the NFL died for me.

  33. eastofmissball says: Dec 9, 2013 2:15 PM

    Concussions or knees, both end your career. Hey Rodger you still want to extend the regular season games? Shoot why not a game every night? Might as well build robots to play, or you suit up and see if you can recover from a Thurs night game too a noon Sun game.

  34. flash1283 says: Dec 9, 2013 2:15 PM

    If the Browns recover the onside kick the knew was coming they win the game.

    Fozzy Whittaker

  35. @HowdyDoobie says: Dec 9, 2013 2:17 PM

    The concussion explains his calm demeanor after an injury like that. Holy crap.

  36. kindbass says: Dec 9, 2013 2:19 PM

    Gotta love when fans of sad-sack, pathetic franchises like the Vikings and Redskins can only get pleasure out of hating on the other teams that actually win. Why do you even watch football?

    And how do you tackle Gronk? I don’t know, maybe watch the couple hundreds of times Gronk has been tackled and do what they did.

  37. harrisonhits2 says: Dec 9, 2013 2:19 PM

    doctorrustbelt says:
    Dec 9, 2013 1:52 PM
    The way those referees cheated for the patriots in the end … you know they would have called T.J. Ward for some bogus call (if he went high).
    ___________________________

    So by your logic the refs cheated in favor of the Panthers and Jets against the Pats earlier this year, and basically cheat every single game by every team.

    SMH

  38. thestrategyexpert says: Dec 9, 2013 2:19 PM

    Great play by TJ Ward. And nice ignoring of Belichick’s death stare. He was focused to just play ball. Solid tackle and in a perfect way to take out the ball carrier while avoiding a penalty and a fine. Just awesome. Sucks to be Gronk, tough break.

  39. johnodocks says: Dec 9, 2013 2:21 PM

    TJ Ward is cutting in on Bernard Pollard’s business.

  40. thegreatgabbert says: Dec 9, 2013 2:22 PM

    To make matters worse, the trainers hovering over him asked “Where does it hurt?”.

  41. Patskrieg dot com says: Dec 9, 2013 2:24 PM

    Jonathan Stewart tore his MCL last night when a defender put his helmet into Stewart’s knee. Are these commenters lining up to call him “glass?”

  42. mubbcsoc says: Dec 9, 2013 2:24 PM

    So does Gronk have to go through the concussion protocol every single week until his glass body can fuse back together again?

  43. mdpgc says: Dec 9, 2013 2:27 PM

    The league got what it wanted, they prefer blown out knees over concussions.

  44. titansbro says: Dec 9, 2013 2:28 PM

    Anybody blasting Ward for that hit is a moron. He made a clean, legal tackle, maybe the only way he was gonna be able to bring him down. That’s the way smaller players are taught to take down bigger players. I love Gronk & it sucks he got hurt again, but that’s a clean play. These are the same people blasting Pollard for the absolutely legal knockout on Ridley (that was actually Ridleys own doing) in the playoffs last year. Morons.

  45. NoobTubeTV says: Dec 9, 2013 2:29 PM

    GO BROWNS!

  46. taintedsaints2009 says: Dec 9, 2013 2:30 PM

    You can’t dictate how to hit somebody at full speed in split second decisions. It’s like the rules of engagement in the military that tie soldiers hands behind their backs during battle. All these rules created by beauorocrats not out in the field. It doesn’t work. It just creates more problems, confusion, and injury.

  47. goldrush36 says: Dec 9, 2013 2:32 PM

    Gronk is fun as hell to watch but he is gonna put himself in a wheelchair or casket the way he plays. This wasn’t his fault but his health has a lot to do with his overall playing style. Wishing him a speedy recovery. Also wishing I could see what Vernon Davis’ career stats would be with a qb like Brady. As long as Tom is in town that team is a legitimate threat even without their best weapon.

  48. wishingtonredslur says: Dec 9, 2013 2:33 PM

    They want them to be hit low(er than the head.)

  49. stinger22 says: Dec 9, 2013 2:34 PM

    Been a Pats season ticket holder for twenty years. Losing Gronk could be potentially crippling moving forward into the playoffs. That being said, I felt that T.J. Ward’s hit on Gronk was clean as a whistle and anything but dirty.

  50. imthaschmidt says: Dec 9, 2013 2:35 PM

    Look i am from Indiana i hate the Pats as much as the next guy, but this is just sad. Gronk is literally one of the best Te i have ever watched and the fact that he keeps getting injured is sad. that’s about all there is to say about it.

  51. wolfmanpatriot says: Dec 9, 2013 2:39 PM

    govtminion says:
    Dec 9, 2013 2:05 PM
    I will never cease to be amazed by people who laugh at a player for getting hurt, hiding behind it being ‘karma’ for what his team did or ‘because he sucks’ or whatever. Congratulations for being able to hide behind a screen name and talk trash about people you don’t know.
    ——————-
    We could inform them that wishing bad carma on someone is the most assured way to bring it upon one’s self, but, going by their behind screen names and behaviors, I am guessing it is too late for them. Much like preaching to a corpse.

    This may be a good topic on future stories for us and will anger the trolls.
    Giving them thumbs down and or responding to them only makes them feel validated.

  52. phelbin says: Dec 9, 2013 2:41 PM

    I’ve been a Gronk fan since his college days at Arizona. But for a guy who’s 6-6 270lbs, he’s surprisingly delicate. Like a gigantic porcelain doll.

  53. doe22us says: Dec 9, 2013 2:41 PM

    govtminion says:
    Dec 9, 2013 2:05 PM
    I will never cease to be amazed by people who laugh at a player for getting hurt, hiding behind it being ‘karma’ for what his team did or ‘because he sucks’ or whatever. Congratulations for being able to hide behind a screen name and talk trash about people you don’t know.

    I agree with you 100%, it is kinda sickening that people wish ill will on players. Either you are sick in the head or never played sports at any competitive level, because if you did and have suffered an injury either minor or major you wouldnt wish that on anyone, it is the decent thing to do. However, humanity is so far gone that what is left??

  54. coolherc says: Dec 9, 2013 2:41 PM

    spoilerfutbol says:
    Dec 9, 2013 1:57 PM

    Haters in this site need to use their brains, someone is calling him injury prone because a hit destroyed his knee, seriously?

    ____________________________________

    You do realize this guy’s had something like 6 surgeries over the course of just the last 13 months, right? Guy hasn’t played a full season since before he got into the NFL. The living, breathing definition of injury-prone.

  55. wwwmattcom says: Dec 9, 2013 2:42 PM

    wwwmattcom says:
    Dec 9, 2013 10:00 AM
    Goodell should make a rule, You’re not allowed to leave your feet to make a hit. Wrap and tackle or nothing. Too often players are caught out of position and resort to hits of all kinds to kill the body, stop tthe body dead in its tracks.

    “But I’ve got to play football, man. I’ve got to play football,” Ward said.

    you can do whatever you want in this sport and call it football to avoid blame.

    91 400

  56. thetooloftools says: Dec 9, 2013 2:42 PM

    T.J. put Gronk on BLAST !

  57. johnheisman says: Dec 9, 2013 2:43 PM

    There is no athlete in any sport that could have taken that hit and not been injured. It was vicious and it was obvious when it happened that Gronkowski was badly hurt.

    Taking out someone knees is criminal and ruins careers and no player would want it done to them. While Gronkowski was focused on making the catch, Ward had a clear shot at him and purposely took out his knee that was planted. Just tackle the guy and if he is to big for you get another job!

    I love football, but I love it better when injuries and the officiating are not such a dominant parts of the game.

  58. promickey says: Dec 9, 2013 2:43 PM

    Well the question is does an NFL receiver want to be out one to two weeks (concussion) or have his NFL career threatened with a serious knee injury.

  59. laseeno says: Dec 9, 2013 2:44 PM

    Cheap shot by Ward. Anyone who’s every played a down of football knows it.

  60. bryans49ers says: Dec 9, 2013 2:47 PM

    New rule coming: When the receiver catches the ball, the play is blown dead and the chains are advanced to the point of the reception.
    Defensive players can only defend against the pass but no tackling allowed. The whistle will in essence replace tackling.
    The running back when touched, not tackled, the play is once again blown dead and chains are moved .

  61. nflofficeadmin says: Dec 9, 2013 2:51 PM

    Give the guy a break.. his knee blew out like a pinata because TJ was the club. All legal, but pinatas get blown.. that’s what happens when you hit a pinata with a club.

  62. nagaswan says: Dec 9, 2013 2:54 PM

    “I wouldn’t ‘know how to take a hit’ if a guy dove at my kneecap. Ridiculous.”

    Don’t plant your leg, turn your body, same as if you are going to be hit by a car.

  63. vegasgreek says: Dec 9, 2013 2:56 PM

    PATSIES WILL MOVE ON FROM GRONK IN 2014 . They are a ruthless heartless franchise. They will use his concussion to get rid of him. he is dead weight now. I grew up north of Boston and that is how people think there. IN Boston they will give you 2 nickels for a dime they are so cheap. This is the end of the PATSIES Super Bowl Runs. After next season Belichick will leave to take his dream with the NY Giants . Kraft conned Brady and got him to re- work his contract to help the team with the salary cap and never got him any offensive weapons . In Boston they use up people and dump them.

  64. sandypar77 says: Dec 9, 2013 3:01 PM

    Another well placed hit by Ward. The man put EJ Manuel out this year as well with a hit just above his planted knee. I never played beyond high school but what’s wrong with a shoulder to the midsection, keep ur head up drive through the man and wrap up?

  65. nagaswan says: Dec 9, 2013 3:01 PM

    Has anyone wondered if he got a concussion before that play and that is why he did not react to the defender coming in for a low shot, even though he had the opportunity to see him coming. Players reenter with concussions all the time (see: Wes Welker, or any other player in the league).

  66. hwentworth says: Dec 9, 2013 3:02 PM

    vegasgreek says:
    Dec 9, 2013 2:56 PM
    PATSIES WILL MOVE ON FROM GRONK IN 2014 . They are a ruthless heartless franchise. They will use his concussion to get rid of him. he is dead weight now. I grew up north of Boston and that is how people think there. IN Boston they will give you 2 nickels for a dime they are so cheap. This is the end of the PATSIES Super Bowl Runs. After next season Belichick will leave to take his dream with the NY Giants . Kraft conned Brady and got him to re- work his contract to help the team with the salary cap and never got him any offensive weapons . In Boston they use up people and dump them.

    ——-

    It’s a business.

  67. kwjsb says: Dec 9, 2013 3:05 PM

    towniesman says: Dec 9, 2013 1:46 PM

    ward is a predator who should be banished from the league….DIRTBAG

    _________________________________
    You must not watch football, It was a clean legal hit as prescribed by the new rules.

    If you had watched the game, Ward went over, took his helmet off and shook Gronks hand before Gronk was hauled off the field.

    I saw a fair hit and a class act ….

  68. jimthebuilder27 says: Dec 9, 2013 3:06 PM

    After hearing this, Roger Goodell was like “Damn, wish he played for the Saints so I could nail them again. Since he doesn’t and didn’t hit him in the head, that sounds like good ol’ fashioned football to me!”

    Jack wagon.

  69. vegasgreek says: Dec 9, 2013 3:07 PM

    There is an Ancient Greek proverb: HUBRIS PRECEDES NEMESIS ! PRIDE COMES BEFORE THE FALL ! The End is near for the NE PATSIES and their fake dynasty built on the now defunct TUCK game and spy gate . Once they fall allt the Boston Rats will jump the ship . Look at the Celtics now . Like Sonny told C in A BRONX TALE : NOBODY CARES !

  70. wiley16350 says: Dec 9, 2013 3:11 PM

    Since the days of Jack Tatum, safeties have been using hard explosive hits on defenseless receivers. Prior to then, defenders played the ball and tackled players cleanly if they couldn’t make a play on the ball. Of course teams used to play a lot more man to man. Jack Tatum and those that followed him (Ronnie Lott, Steve Atwater, Rodney Harrison) used the big hit not as a necessary way of tackling but a way to intimidate and to force incompletions when they can’t make a play on the ball. It is absolutely wrong to complain that a tackle can’t be made because players can no longer go high or low. It is not that the player can’t go high or low, it is that a player can’t bring the explosive hitting high or low because those cause injury way too easily and often to a player that has no way to defend himself from getting hit that way. A defender is more than able to go in, wrap up and bring the receiver down without having to use excessive and unnecessary explosive force. He is also able to go low by wrapping his arms around the guys legs and bring him to the ground. Wrapping up and using force through strength and leverage with control is proper tackling. Throwing your body around recklessly and generating excessive force for the purpose of intimidation without control is the wrong way to tackle. When you really think about it, how often do defensive backs hit running backs like they do defenseless receivers? They don’t because they know the running back can hit back. The funny thing is, running backs get tackled all the time without being hit with those explosive type hits, so why do people believe it can’t be done to receivers. The real complaint not being expressed is; defenders can’t get incompletions without those types of hits. Which may or may not be the truth. Using man to man coverage more would allow for tighter coverage, but it leaves a team more susceptible to QB’s running the ball. Who knows what the answer is, but to be fair these rules changes were brought about by the concussion lawsuit, it’s not something that should be put solely upon Goodell.

  71. 63deuceman says: Dec 9, 2013 3:11 PM

    That type of hit is illegal on returns and turnovers (see Suh play against MN in week 1, when he was flagged and fined). Why is that hit legal some of the time, and not others?

    And most say that it was a clean hit by Ward, but a dirty hit by Suh. Personal perspective, such as which team/player you favor, can play a huge role in how that play is viewed.

  72. flash1283 says: Dec 9, 2013 3:25 PM

    vegasgreek says: Dec 9, 2013 3:07 PM

    There is an Ancient Greek proverb: HUBRIS PRECEDES NEMESIS ! PRIDE COMES BEFORE THE FALL ! The End is near for the NE PATSIES and their fake dynasty built on the now defunct TUCK game and spy gate . Once they fall allt the Boston Rats will jump the ship . Look at the Celtics now . Like Sonny told C in A BRONX TALE : NOBODY CARES !

    We have been hearing this for years!

  73. thegenoatkinsdiet says: Dec 9, 2013 3:26 PM

    Imagine playing 6 games a year in the AFC North…

  74. 4512dawg4512 says: Dec 9, 2013 3:29 PM

    One TE is in the clink, the other TE can’t stay healthy, the refs are gift wrapping games for them, what the heck is going on up there in New England?

  75. shiftyshellshocked says: Dec 9, 2013 3:39 PM

    Gronkowski should get a Purple Heart.

  76. cjspiller12 says: Dec 9, 2013 3:41 PM

    63deuceman says:Dec 9, 2013 3:11 PM

    That type of hit is illegal on returns and turnovers (see Suh play against MN in week 1, when he was flagged and fined). Why is that hit legal some of the time, and not others?

    And most say that it was a clean hit by Ward, but a dirty hit by Suh. Personal perspective, such as which team/player you favor, can play a huge role in how that play is viewed.
    _________________________________
    Obviously, you don’t know the rules of the NFL. Difference is Ward was making a legal tackle and Suh was making an illegal low block. The difference is apples and oranges.

  77. watchfullhose says: Dec 9, 2013 3:55 PM

    That’s because there are different rules for tackling and blocking, Einstein!

  78. ratsfoiledagain says: Dec 9, 2013 4:02 PM

    towniesman says:
    Dec 9, 2013 1:46 PM

    ward is a predator who should be banished from the league….DIRTBAG
    ***********
    Yet the Pats had Harrison, who was voted the dirtiest play in the league multiple times.

  79. bullcharger says: Dec 9, 2013 4:06 PM

    4512dawg4512 says:Dec 9, 2013 3:29 PM

    One TE is in the clink, the other TE can’t stay healthy, the refs are gift wrapping games for them, what the heck is going on up there in New England?

    ————-

    All the Browns had to do was cover up an onside kick. The Patriots haven’t recovered an onside kick since 1995 and they haven’t done it to win a game since 1964. It couldn’t have been that hard.

    Brady still had the ball with plenty of time in the Browns end when the PI call happened. If anything it gave the Browns a chance to have 35 seconds left. They almost pulled it off.

    Don’t blame a 12 point comeback in 2:35 on one call. That would be short selling the Browns collapse on defense and special teams.

  80. ballboy48 says: Dec 9, 2013 4:08 PM

    How many actually watched this hit? If TJ Ward went high, he would’ve probably been flagged, and also knocked out by D’qwell Jackson. It was a case of DQ going in for the tackle high and Ward going lower. It was a clean hit, and Ward even apologized to Gronkowski. It’s just the way the league wants them to play now. You might as well put flags on them.

  81. vaphinfan says: Dec 9, 2013 4:09 PM

    Tj Ward is gonna get fined big time for this. Doesnt he know your not allowed to touch patriot players or else its a penalty and fine. You can’t hurt players on Goodells favorite team and get away with it no matter how much you play within the rules.

  82. bullcharger says: Dec 9, 2013 4:14 PM

    vegasgreek says:Dec 9, 2013 2:56 PM

    PATSIES WILL MOVE ON FROM GRONK IN 2014 . They are a ruthless heartless franchise. They will use his concussion to get rid of him. he is dead weight now. I grew up north of Boston and that is how people think there. IN Boston they will give you 2 nickels for a dime they are so cheap. This is the end of the PATSIES Super Bowl Runs. After next season Belichick will leave to take his dream with the NY Giants . Kraft conned Brady and got him to re- work his contract to help the team with the salary cap and never got him any offensive weapons . In Boston they use up people and dump them.

    ——————-

    Nostradamus was French… otherwise I would think you were him.

  83. aldante66 says: Dec 9, 2013 4:15 PM

    I hear a safe career in wrestling may be called for. I mean this guys body was not make for contact football.

  84. aldante66 says: Dec 9, 2013 4:16 PM

    dbacks don’t practice tackling, they practice hitting now. Its not about wrap your arms its about come up from behind and lay your shoulder or helmet into the guy and take him down.

  85. newjerseygiants says: Dec 9, 2013 4:26 PM

    I once got my leg caught between two immovable objects. I went one way, my knee went the other. I also got clocked several times in the head in the past. Guess which was worse? Today, my head is fine although my knee is a mess.

    I hate the Patriots although I like Gronk. Hope he can recover.

  86. gisellichek says: Dec 9, 2013 4:41 PM

    That was one of the most gruesome takeouts I’ve ever seen…

    I feel for Gronk… He got crumpled and it was heartbreaking seeing him in obvious agony … I know he is a young man and will with time recover … but make no mistake that may end up being the straw that broke the camel’s back… a true career ender.

    Tragic…

  87. jonnydapat says: Dec 9, 2013 4:50 PM

    The number of brain cells some people that post on this site befuddles me. Defensive players can’t hit offensive players in the head so they must take out their knees. There is an old saying “FOR EVERY INCH OF CHIN THEIR’S A FOOT OF BODY” I’m positive these tools never played any contact sports.

  88. u4iadman says: Dec 9, 2013 4:52 PM

    Browns now one of my fav teams.

  89. rob471773 says: Dec 9, 2013 4:58 PM

    Hit was “Legal” but 100% dirty

    He launched his helmet into the planted knee of a guy who is 6’7”

    Enough of this “well this is what happens when you can’t go high” That is a moronic argument.

    How about this, drive your shoulder into the mid section of the ball carrier, wrap and take to the ground.

    This is also known as a form tackle. But these coward DB’s in the league would rather “make a statement”.

    The truth is that there afraid tackle like a man because it might hurt a little more or involve more effort.

  90. fatsolio says: Dec 9, 2013 5:11 PM

    This sucks for Gronk yet is great for the media since it gives them their excuse now if Teflon Tom is mediocre for the rest of the season and especially if he is mediocre in the playoffs and the Pats go one and done.

    For the media Tommy can never be responsible for him having poor games nor can he ever be partly responsible for the team losing. Meanwhile, Peyton is to blame for when his defense gives up 70 yard td hail marys when he leaves the game with a 7 pt lead and under 2 minutes left and if Manning lost every single receiver and had to play with high school students he’d be at fault if he had a poor game.

    Must be nice to be in a position like Brady where no matter what you do you can do no wrong in the eyes of the media and basically everyone else while you get all the praise if your team wins. All praise and no blame in your career. Brilliant.

    I’m just an idiot though. I need to realize that Brady won 3 superbowls over 8 years ago and what happened close to a decade ago is the key for how you should be viewed in the present. After all, Al Bundy once scored 4 rushing TDs in a game while in high school!

    Brady mainly stinking up the joint in the playoffs the last few years is meaningless because of those superbowl wins (mainly won because of the defense and kicker but who cares about details/reality when you are looking to write a narrative of an athlete) 8+ years ago. To go by recent history is just flat out kooky and if he finishes his career with more mediocre playoff performances and they fail to win another superbowl then it won’t matter in terms of his supposed legacy which the media gets wet dreams over when it comes to athletes. Just imagine that- you could have a 16+ year career and it won’t matter what happens for the last 12 years because of what happened in the first 4. Again, brilliant!

    Oh and Brady is married to a supermodel who has a mannish looking face who nobody would think twice about if she weren’t a model. That also means he is flawless and can’t ever be criticized.

  91. mjdkid100 says: Dec 9, 2013 5:15 PM

    vegasgreek says: Dec 9, 2013 2:56 PM
    PATSIES WILL MOVE ON FROM GRONK IN 2014 . They are a ruthless heartless franchise. They will use his concussion to get rid of him. he is dead weight now. I grew up north of Boston and that is how people think there. IN Boston they will give you 2 nickels for a dime they are so cheap.
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    2 nickels for a dime sounds like a fair deal…thanks.

  92. coovara says: Dec 9, 2013 5:27 PM

    coolherc says:
    Dec 9, 2013 2:41 PM

    You do realize this guy’s had something like 6 surgeries over the course of just the last 13 months, right? Guy hasn’t played a full season since before he got into the NFL. The living, breathing definition of injury-prone.

    He played full 16 game seasons in both 2010 and 2011, and didnt miss a game last year until the broken arm ( 11 games), so your logic is a bit off

  93. boltjolt says: Dec 9, 2013 5:28 PM

    Time to start wearing flags and take the helmets off.
    Seriously, it’s all about money. The NFL couldn’t care less about a torn ACL.

  94. baltimorons says: Dec 9, 2013 5:38 PM

    Who would even know if Gronk had a concussion?!?! Gronk dizzy. Gronk feel bad.

  95. patriotinvasion says: Dec 9, 2013 5:38 PM

    fatsolio says: Dec 9, 2013 5:11 PM

    …For the media Tommy can never be responsible for him having poor games nor can he ever be partly responsible for the team losing. Meanwhile, Peyton is to blame for when his defense gives up 70 yard td hail marys when he leaves the game with a 7 pt lead and under 2 minutes left and if Manning lost every single receiver and had to play with high school students he’d be at fault if he had a poor game.
    ____
    I read your entire post. Funny how you mention this above, and are quick to point out that Brady hasn’t won the Super Bowl in 8 years, yet conveniently leave out the very fact that he gave his team the lead with 2 minutes left in 2 of the past 6 Super Bowls only to lose on what could be considered Eli hail mary’s.

  96. runnersaw says: Dec 9, 2013 5:46 PM

    Unfortunately, the hit was totally legal, and also the best way to take down the monster that is Gronk. You can’t fault the player for making the best, totally legal tackle that he can.

  97. vader7176 says: Dec 9, 2013 6:07 PM

    Ok. now mr Godell and the League can outlaw tackling and just play 17 weeks of Pro bowl style football. People, football is a COLLISION game. Men have died playing the game — the first occurred prior to 1910! It is brutal and violent but to “expand the viewership (translation –more money) we want casual fans watching more..so let’s. make games look like NBA Games. Hey, here’s an idea–lets get rid of defense and just play offense on air. OR how about flag football. I know the latter has been sarcastically used by many. But how can you have competition and drama when you eliminate both. NFL films made that element evident to us and that’s what other leagues dont have (NHL is close). Sorry I’m rambling, but when you take from the essence of the game in the name of “improving ” it or marketing. You just create the opposite. Or have we forgotten the New Coke Campaign.

  98. bobsnygiants says: Dec 9, 2013 6:10 PM

    the league is messing around to much, go Bach to the old rules and let the players wear leather helmets .

  99. captbuff says: Dec 9, 2013 6:27 PM

    spoilerfutbol says:
    Dec 9, 2013 1:57 PM

    Haters in this site need to use their brains, someone is calling him injury prone because a hit destroyed his knee, seriously?

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    Just because he’s prone to injuries doesn’t mean he’s “injury prone”. You’re all just haters!!!

  100. shadeforourbattle says: Dec 9, 2013 6:46 PM

    The job of a defender is to tackle a player and take him down and not allow the offensive player to gain any more yards than possible. The only thing that matters when it comes to form is putting the man on the ground as quickly as possible without getting penalized for an illegal hit/tackle. You people are delusional if you think that football players are engaging in a complex thought process when it comes to tackling somebody. You don’t think, you react and do. You see a player, react and try to get them down as best as possible. ALL football plays involve ill intentions. EVERY SINGLE ONE. It is not a sport for nice people. It is a violent sport where the people who play it are fine with the fact that they will be inflicting pain on another person and having pain inflicted upon them for the entire game. Football players are not normal. For all of the people claiming he needs to tackle like a man and wrap him up, I am sorry, but you just don’t know football. He went low, took out his legs and Gronkowski went to the ground and did not gain any more yards. That is what football is about. That is what he is paid to do. If he flies in high like Ronnie Lott, Rodney Harrison or John Lynch and takes him out as Lott, Harrison or Lynch did many times to receivers, then he gets penalized, fined and possibly suspended. All of which hurt his team. That is the current state of professional football. He is paid to tackle and tackle him he did. I feel badly for Gronkowski, but are you going to do, outlaw all tackles below the waist?

  101. 63deuceman says: Dec 9, 2013 9:27 PM

    That type of hit is illegal on returns and turnovers (see Suh play against MN in week 1, when he was flagged and fined). Why is that hit legal some of the time, and not others?

    And most say that it was a clean hit by Ward, but a dirty hit by Suh. Personal perspective, such as which team/player you favor, can play a huge role in how that play is viewed.
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    Obviously, you don’t know the rules of the NFL. Difference is Ward was making a legal tackle and Suh was making an illegal low block. The difference is apples and oranges.
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    Actually cjspiller12, I do know that rule. See the comment on the top of my post. Why should that type of hit be legal on defense, but NOT returns or turnovers? If a low hit is dangerous, it shouldn’t be allowed in ANY circumstance.

    Obviously.

  102. shadeforourbattle says: Dec 9, 2013 10:11 PM

    63deuceman
    So nobody should be allowed to hit a person low? So when you are tackling a person from behind (they have raced in front of you) and you dive at their legs and tackle them that is illegal because it is low? If the leg is locked things will break regardless of where the direction of the force is applied from. Are low hits only illegal on defense? Are only offensive players suppose to be protected? Seems like no more low blocking on at the line of scrimmage on offense according to you. By the way, you are not allowed to block low down field outside of the imaginary 3 yards off the line of scrimmage. That block by Suh was illegal for any football player at any time, be it on offense for a lineman downfield on a screen block or for a defensive lineman like Suh during a turnover. The reason it is illegal is if the defender is in a position to make a tackle and is broken down in proper form, that kind of block leads to knee injuries. Blocking is different than tackling. Football 101. Gronkowski was running at full speed and was tackled by a defender taking out his legs and Gronkowski tripped/flipped over that tackle. Legal. Can’t tell you how many kickoffs and punt returns I have seen in my playing career where the offensive player was taken out at the legs by a diving defender. That’s football.

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