Leslie Frazier: NFL called me to discuss officiating

Reuters

It’s common for NFL head coaches to contact the league office when they have a complaint about the officiating. It’s less common for the league office to reach out to coaches about the officiating.

But Vikings head coach Leslie Frazier said today that the league called him about the officiating in Sunday’s loss to the Ravens.

“The fact that they called should give you an indication of how they felt about things on that day. That was encouraging that they wanted to talk about that game from yesterday,” Frazier said, via 1500ESPN.com.

Frazier said he didn’t want to go into all the details about what was said in that conversation, but he did acknowledge the obvious: The Vikings weren’t happy about the officials’ ruling on Toby Gerhart’s fumble, which was upheld on replay even though the video showed that Gerhart’s knee was down.

“We did talk about the Gerhart play,” Frazier said.

The Vikings were also unhappy about the way pass interference was inconsistently called on Sunday, with those inconsistencies seeming to benefit from the Ravens. It’s a little surprising that the league office would reach out to Frazier, but it’s not surprising at all that there were more plenty of bad calls on Sunday, because this NFL season has been full of them.

161 responses to “Leslie Frazier: NFL called me to discuss officiating

  1. No excuse when the replay clearly showed his knee was down on the fumble. Why have replay at all then? Its one thing for a ref to miss it – its another for an idiot whose job is to look at a video.

  2. They say a team can win on any given sunday, thats whats great about football. But more often now than ever the officials are the ones deciding the victors.

  3. Both the ravens and the pats god very supicious PIs called on their opponents.

    Hmm I wonder if NFL likes the pats and the ravens in the playoffs. It must be good for business.

  4. Perhaps Pete Morelli should be a little less subtle when smiling during the Ravens “confirmed TD” call. What’s even worse? Carl Johnson, the former VP, of officiating is on Morelli’s crew.

  5. The NFL could start another revenue stream where fans in addition to playing fantasy football, could play fantasy pass interference.

    One could guess who many fantom PI/s are called in a week, and points could be awarded for correctly guessing total number, yards allowed, and bonus TD’s

  6. For a few weeks I just kept thinking that we always complain about the calls every year…

    but this year really has been more than awful.

    Something needs done, too many games being decided by referees.

  7. “Oh Foles threw the ball out of bounds on a two point conversion attempt? Let’s call Suh for holding. Yeah. No one will question that…”

  8. NFL is the easiest sport to fix, and down thru history whenever a human could effect the odds and make more money—they have.

    You be the judge.

  9. frazier has the guts to tell us all and thank you i hope you retain your job!

    on the other hand:

    refs need to be held accountable and not just playoff and superbowl losses. they need to be fined and or suspended for the next week or we just review all penalties. i for one am getting sick of the rigged nflwee let the players play the game!

  10. At this point, there is a lot of attention being given to this concern. More so than in any other season I can remember. I think it has been a problem for some time, but the league has tried to keep a lid on it. To the point, they actually have Mike Pereira come on after a blown call and try to sell it. But now its becoming way to apparent. The easy way to look at this is ” when things don’t go their team’s way” because at the end of the day that’s all anyone really cares about. I don’t think New England fans are bitching too much about yesterdays call in Cleveland. The real issue is it is taking away from the integrity of the game. Guys are working their asses off at practice and the games. This work should pay off and be rewarded. The officiating is taking that element out of the game. New, confusing and inconsistent rules have added to this greatly. But that works in the favor of the NFL. Because now it is judgmental and cannot be reviewed. (again just my humble opinion). Everyone has to call it like you see it. The NFL is getting closer and closer to becoming the new WWE.! Its also my opinion that flags should not be thrown unless an official is absolutely certain about the call. A flag should never be thrown on a questionable call. The officiating is ruining the integrity of the game. The games seem predetermined before the coin flip. The Refs cannot determine the outcome of a lopsided game or a rout. However, the NFL also knows football is a game of momentum. A close game may be affected by stopping momentum and even reversing it. It appears that this can be evened out throughout the year by using home-field when determining the beneficiary. This will keep the games close and the stands filled with fans, thus selling more NFL merchandise. Close games, tight divisions with several teams still in the hunt makes for lots of profits.

  11. It was blatantly clear these transgressions benefited the ravens to the point of being unfair.
    But, officiating is a part of the human game. Mistakes happen.
    I just hope cheese bay fans would get over & not complain about Golden Tates catch anymore.

  12. Please re-evaluate how you call PI, illegal contact and defensive holding. These subjective calls allow officials to control the flow of games. If a wide receiver can not get separation, that means he is covered. If a QB decides to force a ball to him anyway, any contact that results should be incidental. These calls and people crying over these calls are ruining the game. Lobbing a ball to a 6’5 receiver who is covered and then whining that there was contact is not football. Make the WR spot about route running, passing accuracy and gaining separation again and not this awful throwing it to the highest jumper and then complaining when someone touches his arm. The referees have not shown they can consistently make these calls.

  13. What he’s not mentioning is that he was contacted by the league to remind him to leave his key card at the front desk, and to make sure he cleans out his office thoroughly or he’ll risk losing his security deposit.

  14. The NFL ought to call Frazier to discuss his coaching. I’ve never seen someone at his level get outcoached week after week. Even his star RB quit on him yesterday.

  15. Yeah, the officials have been awful this year. I am a Pats fan and that PI call was awful. I caught the end of the Ravens-Vikings game too – didn’t see the Gerhart fumble but the PI at the end of the game which set the Ravens up for their score was a terrible call as well. The league needs to do something about pass interference – too many gift-wrapped drives/touchdowns over ticky-tack garbage. We have Peyton Manning and Bill Polian to thank for that.

  16. There were a number of bad calls in that game but the Gerhart fumble was the most blatantly wrong of them all.

    I watched the DEN/TEN game and the PF on Pollard was pretty awful too. Clean shoulder-to-shoulder hit. You can’t throw a flag just because someone gets crushed. This is still football.

  17. I wish they would call me. If they can please me as a fan, then that will please anybody, cause I’m the toughest one to please. It’s very simple. Make it professional and don’t get anything wrong, if you can’t figure out how to do that, then ask somebody else.

  18. It was the same crew in the ’09 NFC Championship game against the Saints. I’m being serious, this is not a joke.

  19. I will give everyone the inside of what NFL Politics is all about! It’s a man’s Soap Opera. Not all the teams have the luxury of being a Jerry Jones owning America’s teams aka The Dallas Cowboys. Dallas rakes in by far the most money but other teams don’t. NFL needs to bring in money and they do so by creating drama and scenarios. For example look at the Eagles aka The franchise that doesn’t have a Superbowl but the rest of the NFC East does. Dallas can bench starters in week 17 cause that game has a huge chance to be meaningless and that means no money for the NFL. So the NFL is purposely keeping the Eagles alive by robbing the Cardinals and killing the Lion’s momentum when Nick Fairly got called for a late him when clearly it was not. That’s the case here. Viking’s where robbed to keep the Ravens alive to create more interesting scenarios. Vikings can’t cause their season is over.

  20. Those two calls were pretty bad, and from getting this kind of reaction from the league tells you something. There was also the non-call for a late hit out of bounds. Xavier Rhodes leveled some Raven as he crossed out of play with one of the sideline judges right there. The Viking fan in me said, “thank heavens he wasn’t called on that”, the football fan in general said, “how did the ref miss that?!”

    Terribly officiated game. It was still a fun game to watch all that aside, real nail-biter, even if it ended in heartbreak. Well played Ravens.

  21. This will go down in Football history as the “strange PI” era.
    Usually though, they have waited until the playoffs to use totally different rules for PI, now they change game to game, drive to drive and play to play.

  22. The League is to cheap to have full time year long officials that are not over the hill, bad calls have hurt most teams, that is except the Pats, the League love them, more calls go there way then any other team. Bill

  23. The refs were literally handing the game to the Ravens the entire day, and they STILL needed a lucky TD with 10 seconds left just to win. Just seems like they called to apologize to his team for being sacrificial lambs as they maneuver to have certain teams in prime position to make the playoffs (or have a chance at a storybook “repeat.”)

  24. The replacement refs made better calls. They just took a little longer to make them. If they had kept the replacements we would have better officiating today.

  25. Pretty vague wording by Frazier. Likely, the context of the call about officiating had more to do with the NFL telling him to control his players complaints about officiating than any specific calls.

  26. They called and asked if they could be more competitive. Vikings are imploding and completely suck. With all those early draft picks you’d think they’d be decent. Nope. Massive implosion of coaching and poor qb play. Only reason the media didn’t go off is because the bucs had the spotlight and now the Redskins have it.
    Hey poet, it’s only 3-9-1
    But feels like 3-91

  27. The new NFL:
    Offense, Defense, Special Teams and Officiating.

    Who will be the first team to hire an Officiating Coordinator? Maybe the Steelers?

    So tired of it.

  28. I think all officials should give their reasoning for how they came to their decision in regards to a call. Ed Hochuli does it, I wish more would. It’s not foolproof but at least it would give some indication as to what they thought they saw – or provide clarification to a rule the fans may not be aware of.

    And let’s make them full-time. Not necessarily to study the rules, but to watch lots of game tape. Perhaps discuss in a group forum what is and what isn’t pass interference (to start with). Let’s improve consistency. Nobody’s perfect, but for gosh sakes, there is definitely room for improvement.

  29. Other thing I found weird was that the head official smiled when he came back and gave the call for the last TD saying it stood (It was a TD, but I thought it was weird the ref smiled like he was happy it stood or something).

  30. The officials must all be Republicans. The whole system is stacked in favor of the wealthy and successful teams.

  31. I personally don’t blame the officials; they can’t keep up with Goodells constant changes. Also, how goodell has tried to make it like callin a foul in the NBA, but things are happening so much faster and from such a further distance away that they would need 10 officials on the field to accurately call a game.

    Vikes rule, packers drool.

  32. I know if I was a Vikings fan, I would be complaining also. The call on the Gerhart fumble was not only inexcusable, it’s incomprehensible. How did he not see the knee down on replay?

    But c’mon…enough with the interference call. Pitta was pulled down. Illegal use of hands at the very least. Sorry, but I don’t see that the Vikes were victims there…and there were plenty of calls that went against the Ravens also.

    Enough of the crying. Make a stop & you win the game!

  33. It takes viewers a matter of seconds to determine the outcome and yet the on field refs take so long and often get it wrong. Even Mike Pereira pops in from time to time on fox to tell us what happened and sometimes says they got it wrong.

    Please put the replay up in the box.

  34. The possibility of the localized replay official (all from one office) is starting to sound a lot more appealing. At least there would be some consistency with the PI and PF calls – in theory anyway.

    Good luck on ironing this situation out, as I’m certain we’re all tired of talking about calls that ruined great games. We’d all rather just talk about great games.

  35. Pete Morelli should never be allowed to referee another Viking game. In fact, based on his track record of controversies (2006 AFC playoff game, 2007 Phil Dawson field goal, 2009 NFC championship ‘bounty-gate’ non-calls and yesterday’s disaster), he should never referee another NFL game ever again. Helen Keller could have seen those calls better than Morelli.

  36. We might as well start letting the refs pick players from the draft for their own team. Next weeks matchup – Team 1 vs. Team 2 and the Refs!

  37. The NFL is starting to look more & more like the WWF. Nothing but a show with predetermined outcomes. To much money for bribes from gambling. The money is exchanged in foreign accounts, untrackable to the NFL watchdogs (who are also paid off & don’t care).

  38. “Enough of the crying. Make a stop & you win the game?”
    Are you kidding? Tell that to the Detroit Lions and their fans, when they did make the stop on the two point conversion and a mystery flag was thrown on Suh!

  39. “Ref! Ref! Come over here goddammit!”.

    “Yes Mr. Frazier, what can I do for you Mr. Frazier? Reverse the call? O.K……..and Oh, if you’re speaking to Mr. Goodell, the name is Parker. P-A-R-K-E-R. Just like it sounds. Referee Parker. Thanks and have a good day Mr. Frazier.”.

  40. Of course the NFL would rather have the Ravens and Pats in the playoffs. The only team in the league that may be less attractive than the Vikings would probably be the Jags. Minneapolis is a pretty weak market and nobody outside that area cares for or about the Vikings. They’re an irrelevant, insignificant franchise. If one were to really believe that the NFL and its officials wanted to dictate the outcome of games the Vikings would generally be the last team that could benefit the league by winning. They’re the Washington Generals of the NFL.

  41. hyzers says: Dec 9, 2013 6:41 PM

    “Oh Foles threw the ball out of bounds on a two point conversion attempt? Let’s call Suh for holding. Yeah. No one will question that…”
    ————

    Eagles fans want you to overlook that and talk about how they ran the ball at will once the snow stopped. That one play determined the way the Lions decided to play it from that point forward, particularly when it came to attempting a PAT versus going for two on their final score. It’s not WHY the Lions lost, but you do not call a DT for holding unless he tugs a lineman to the ground by his jersey or facemask, thereby allowing a linebacker to run free like Justin Smith does (while Harbaugh overlooks that and softens up the officials by whining all game to get them to call Sherman, Maxwell and Lane all game for the very things that his WRs get away with, since they cannot gain separation without pushing off).

  42. When the NFL began to use instant replay I for one was all for the idea. There is so much riding on every game played in NFL & it’s understandable that referees can miss things happening at game speed. Instant replay should solve that issue, however it clearly does not work. If the NFL fines A.P. for voicing his opinion on something everyone (except the game officials) clearly saw, it will be a sad day.

  43. Ravens fan here. The officiating was horrible and we benefited. In addition to all of the above (fumble & PI), we got the benefit of a very generous spot on the last drive as well. Pitta was a yard short on the final third down and they gave him a first down instead of making it fourth. Vikings could not challenge because it was inside two minutes. We got a couple of favorable calls. I’ve seen us get hosed by a bunch over the years as well. It cuts both ways.

  44. I love football. I love hockey. The NFL needs to send replays directly to headquarters just as the NHL does. Let the braintrust make the call, not a ref under a curtain and the scrutiny of the fans in the stands.

  45. Whenever a QB gets sacked I just expect a flag now. Yes, it’s that stupid. Didn’t see NE/CLE or MIN/BAL but Fairley’s personal foul and Suh’s hold really seemed like the official had an agenda.

  46. I have watched a lot of football over the past 45 years and it’s getting to the point anymore where pass interference is such a crap shoot. In yesterday’s games I saw plays were receivers were completely mugged with no flag and then, like the call in New England on the Browns, little, if any, contact occurs and a flag is thrown. This, combined with the fact that every receiver whines ever play thinking they were getting interfered with is really begin to take away from the game. Refs need to be more consistent from game to game and crew to crew. Reviews should be zapped back to Mike Pereira to review. He can do it in five seconds yet the clowns on the field take 5-10 minutes and often screw it up. It’s getting worse by the week.

  47. I have always thought that making officials have to be available to the media, all of the officials, not just a rep, following the games would go a long way to making them accountable.

    Right now, they can go out and screw up every week and the worst that will happen is they get downgraded. The league should modify it’s grading system and make it point based. If the crew scores below a certain point level, they don’t get paid for that week. If they wind up costing a team a game, then they should be fined.

    Coaches should also get to challenge penalties, in addition to the current challenges they get. Just give the coaches 1 more challenge each half. Also, for any 15 yard penalty, it should be reviewed automatically by a central location. If it’s a bad call, then the crew reviewing it can call the crew on the field to overturn the call. We have seen way too many bad calls for hits on qb’s and defenseless receivers, that if they just looked at it on tape they would see that they were wrong.

    Finally, if an official is caught acting unprofessionally on the field, like we have seen this season on a few occasions with officials baiting players into verbal confrontations, they should automatically be fired. The game is supposed to be determined on the field, by the players. Not by the officials.

  48. Have any of these horrible refs been fined ridiculous amounts or game checks? How about suspended? Might as well play call your own fouls.

  49. I agree that the Gerhart fumble was a ridiculous call and it did lead to points for the ravens, but lets get real about the pi calls. Some refs call it tight, some dont. Give me a break about “the ravens get all the calls”. I have seen plenty of games where the ravens have been shafted with a bogus pi call. I also saw a handful of plays where torrey smith is basically raped well past 5 yards down the field with no illegal contact, holding or anything called. Actually i see that alot in all of the other games i watch as well. I guess the point is some weeks you get em, some you dont.

  50. Why are Vikings fans mad about this? The fact the refs blew the call is the biggest break they could have asked for in terms of their future. If only last week the stupid, moronic bears coach didn’t think a 47 yard field goal was a chip shot, they’d be in line for the first pick. Well, except Houston.

  51. I also heard the ref who called the saints Vikings game is the same one who called the game yesterday…

    Maybe this ref has it in for the Vikings or somebody in the organization. Don’t think refs aren’t human. They have their favorites and enemies too.

  52. Not a good sign for Morelli’s future in the NFL. Looks to me like the league is gathering as much info as they can for justification of termination to present to the NFL Referees Association. Good riddance.

  53. The refs cheated the Niners out of another Super Bowl last season ( they wanted the double murderer to go out in style)…… and since then
    the officiating has been horrible….and not just horrible, but bias to certain teams.

  54. i also thought it was odd how the announcers in the new england/cleveland game were going on and on about how new england hasnt recovered an onside kick since 1986 or so and even had a graphic up, right before they recovered an onside kick. seemed staged to me for whatever reason and way too ironic

  55. The Ravens got cheated out of a kick return touchdown against the Steelers, still won, and joked about it afterwards.

    Don’t cry about the refs. Win anyway.

    Life isn’t fair, the tough people succeed anyway.

  56. purpleguy says:
    Dec 9, 2013 7:40 PM
    Water under the bridge in a lost season — no sense whining like a bunch of Packer fans.
    ///////////////////////////////////////////

    So you give him a pass? Why not bust his nuts? You’re selectively two-faced. That makes you predictable and boring. Go away and get some better material.

  57. how does no one mention green-ellis first touchdown completely awarded by jeff tripplet. He must be blind. Hell the commentators for the games officiate the game better than the referees and i’m not even a fan of most commentators as they say things that lack common sense and often state dumb statements

  58. filthymcnasty1 says: Dec 9, 2013 7:15 PM

    Nobody cries about officiating like Viking fans.
    —————–

    There isn’t a week that goes by that I don’t hear your group of fans bring up that game in Seattle, even in games that don’t involve Green Bay. In fact, isn’t that the only reason some of you hate Seattle, when you have no reason to do so? Golden Tate catching the TD and Richard Sherman shutting down Nelson and Jennings?

  59. Frazier is an idiot. What, do you really want to win? All that does is mess up draft position.

  60. jollyjoker2 says: Dec 9, 2013 6:34 PM

    No excuse when the replay clearly showed his knee was down on the fumble. Why have replay at all then? Its one thing for a ref to miss it – its another for an idiot whose job is to look at a video.

    duece5 says:

    Morelli is the SAME referee that blew the roughing the passer calls against the Vikes in the 09 NFC Championship game, the full blown upper and lower cut hit the knocked Favre out for a few plays, SHOULD have been a flag, and no INT.

    Morelli has it in for the Vikes, either that, OR HE IS BLIND.

    It was OBVIOUS to all viewers on the Gerhart play that his knee was down, you can slow mo it on replay, stop it, and the ball is clearly in his forearm WITH KNEE DOWN, and Morelli says it was still fumble.

    They do need to take the replay calls out of the hands of the head referee.

    Have it all controlled from new York where these are true specialists that can get these replays right.

    The call against the Colts with the knee down a FULL YARD from the goal line against Cincy was even worse…….get it right NFL!!!!

  61. I’m sorry they benefitted the Ravens? Please go back and watch every route Torrey ran and how much jersey was in the defenders hand every time. Missed PI consistently. And that last drive may have not been a PI but it was without a doubt holding which is still an automatic first and negated the INT.

    If you don’t want a chance that officiating will determine a game than make sure you put your opponent in a bigger hole!

    Oh and May I add… WAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!

  62. bradygoat says: Dec 9, 2013 6:48 PM

    Yeah, the officials have been awful this year. I am a Pats fan and that PI call was awful. I caught the end of the Ravens-Vikings game too – didn’t see the Gerhart fumble but the PI at the end of the game which set the Ravens up for their score was a terrible call as well. The league needs to do something about pass interference – too many gift-wrapped drives/touchdowns over ticky-tack garbage. We have Peyton Manning and Bill Polian to thank for that.

    duece5 says:

    Actually bradygoat, you can thank your Pats for that. They raped the WRs of the Colts the ENTIRE game, and barely a penalty.

    If it is a rule, and it is violated, then call it.

    Pretty simple.

    By the way, before you cry about the refs, you guys got a GIFT against Cleveland on several occasions, escpecially the PI call in the endzone…..totally awful.

  63. Ravens and Eagles, keep an eye out on these two teams for the next couple games and how well of a job the referees officiate in these games.

    Ravens??? wild card team – should have been on the out looking in.
    Eagles??? wild card/division champs – stay tune for a playoff deciding game against the Cowboys

    Something just does not feel right about this.
    All of sudden there’s horrible/ghost calls towards the end of season with playoff implications.

    who knows, I guess?

  64. canadianvikingfaniii says:
    Dec 9, 2013 6:53 PM
    Those two calls were pretty bad, and from getting this kind of reaction from the league tells you something. There was also the non-call for a late hit out of bounds. Xavier Rhodes leveled some Raven as he crossed out of play with one of the sideline judges right there. The Viking fan in me said, “thank heavens he wasn’t called on that”, the football fan in general said, “how did the ref miss that?!”
    —————————————————-

    The no call was a good call there. With the field conditions, the players had a hard time determining where the out of bounds line was. Rhodes hit him hard, but he didnt level him

  65. jjh1982 says: Dec 9, 2013 8:16 PM

    Its kinda funny the only ones that mentioned the Golden Tate play were Vikings fans their obsession with the Packers is amazing
    —————-

    1. I see Packers fans doing it almost every day whenever officiating flaws are discussed.

    2. I couldn’t care less about the Packers or Vikings.

    3. I am a Giants fan and the Giants absolutely OWN the Packers.

    Theory shot.

  66. whoknowsnothing says: Dec 9, 2013 8:17 PM

    Ravens and Eagles, keep an eye out on these two teams for the next couple games and how well of a job the referees officiate in these games.

    Ravens??? wild card team – should have been on the out looking in.
    Eagles??? wild card/division champs – stay tune for a playoff deciding game against the Cowboys

    Something just does not feel right about this.
    All of sudden there’s horrible/ghost calls towards the end of season with playoff implications.

    who knows, I guess?
    ————

    Absolutely agree.

  67. danpatrickisatool says: Dec 9, 2013 8:14 PM

    Nothing will top the 2 made up penalties Fairley and Suh were called for yesterday.
    ————-

    I saw those and refused to watch the rest of the game. Back to back weeks the officials slant the game to ensure that they have their Chip Kelly-wins-the-NFC-East-in-his-first-year stories.

    The calls in the Ravens game were more plentiful and egregious than any of the others. And I watched at least 40 snaps in every single game yesterday. The Cincinnati game wasn’t too bad outside of that ghastly cheat call on the goal line. The Tampa and Washington games were out of hand on their own merits. But the Fins overcame a couple of attempts by the officials to skew it for Pittsburgh. We all saw the calls down the stretch in Foxborough. The Giants were out of the game before they got off the bus, and they were blasted fair and square. Seattle got jobbed on a few phantom calls that either negated big gains by their offense or sustained drives that were over by San Francisco’s offense.

    But I watched a good bit of that Baltimore game and Morelli’s crew seemed to have had instructions from the GET GO to ensure that Baltimore won. There were at least seven calls that I counted that caused me to literally stand up as quickly as if the God had called my name, I was so incredulous by the blatancy of the calls.

  68. I have zero beef with the Ravens. They’re just playing the game. It was the officiating hat swung points, and ended/extended drives. That matters in a 3-point game.

    On the final PI with Greenway v Pitta, there was contact within 5 yards. Greenway then turned and made a play on the ball with his head turned, and they were 20+ yards down the field. Flacco’s throw was so horrendous, we intercepted it. Game over. Vikings made the play to end the game, and the Zebras took it right away.

    That SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.

  69. bradygoat says: Dec 9, 2013 6:48 PM

    Yeah, the officials have been awful this year. I am a Pats fan and that PI call was awful. I caught the end of the Ravens-Vikings game too – didn’t see the Gerhart fumble but the PI at the end of the game which set the Ravens up for their score was a terrible call as well. The league needs to do something about pass interference – too many gift-wrapped drives/touchdowns over ticky-tack garbage. We have Peyton Manning and Bill Polian to thank for that.
    ————-

    Nothing like a Patriots fan using another team to deflect. The Patriots get away with the very thing that Patriots fans complained that Browner and Sherman were doing when they shut down New England last year. You guys always want it both ways when it benefits your agenda.

  70. thesconnienation says: Dec 9, 2013 7:39 PM

    The NFL should call to apologize for placing a NFL team in Minnesota.

    duece5 says:

    gbay fans are so testy while their girl, Erin, is STILL nursing his booboo.

    As Parcells said years ago:…..”she’s getting there……I think she’ll be ready.”

  71. Another hatchet job on the Vikings by Pete Morelli and crew. Remember the 2009 NFC CG where the Vikings would have won but for the bias and incompetence of the refs? Well, Pete Morelli and crew officiated that game, too.

  72. More Vikings worship from Roger Goodell if you ask me. It was a very well-officiated game, Gerhart DID fumble & Greenway did mug the Ravens receiver. I don’t know why the Vikings believe they can get away with cheating.

  73. Reminds me of the 09 NFC Championship. Same guy. Can no longer be just a coincidence.

    If we find out in the future he is being paid off, like the NBA refs, I would not be shocked at all.

  74. Gotta laugh at the idiotic posters, who chose to badmouth a particular team and miss the real point. Every NFL team has been scewed over by the officials and if the NFL is ever going to be forced to do something about bad officials, it will only be with the collective efforts of ALL fans complaining when bad calls are made. I don’t like the Packers as a team but they got hosed last year in their game against Seattle. Cleveland got hosed, Minny got hosed and it’s time the NFL does something about it.

  75. If you want win in football you have to play better than your opponents and the Refs.

    That’s called being a good football team.

    Whining about calls after the game is pointless (even with league apologies).

    If you think apologies matter, show me where they show up in the “W/L” column?

    – A disgusted Viking fan (more at our whole org. hierarchy than the players or the NFL)

  76. What’s the deal with the ref’s and the Harbaugh Brothers when they play the vikes? Didn’t last time we played the 9ers they gave them 2 extra timeouts and 2 extra challenges? Now this crap?

  77. Dear Mr. Wright 212, Packers own the NFL, they have the most championships, the most Hall of Famers, legendary stadium, and of course the best fans, the only thing the Giants have is a QB that throws int, and has memory loss

  78. This is happening in every game with every team. Trust me. PI, defensive holding and illegal contact needs to be dialed down. And the trade off is we can’t whine about non calls. The refs just need to let them play like they do in the playoffs.

  79. jjh1982 says: Dec 9, 2013 10:04 PM

    Oh and the Packers own the Giants all time 27-22 and 4-3 in the playoffs so ya the Packers own you
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    Dude stop. You look like a fool. When was the last time Green Bay beat the Giants? Don’t go trying to dig up the 60s and 70s.

  80. players get fined for mistakes and bad hits on the field… refs sould be fined for crap officiating like we saw yesterday.
    The NFL says about the players, “when you hit them in the wallet they will change the way they tackle.”
    Time to practice what they preach with the idiotic officiating crews we have seen this year

  81. The league should call the Dolphins, too (although the Fins did benefit from a bogus helmet-to-helmet call yesterday).

    But they might get pushed out of the playoffs because the officials gift-wrapped two blown calls for the Ravens.

  82. “Losers” says the guy with seven user names, and the need to make us all believe he lives somewhere other than his Mom’s Wisconsin basement.

  83. I tell my sons 7th grade football team never allow a ref dictate a game. Out score your opponent . If it means you beat them 35-0 just insures you can whether the bad calls. The knee down was bad! The others were ticky tack. Vikes defense shoulda created some turn overs…. Lacking this year!

  84. i’m tired of this crap in the NFL… switching to college where it still resembles football. I’ll be back when they get a new commissioner.

  85. Not sure anyone outside of Minnesota has noticed, but the last 4-5 weeks the Vikings have put together 2-3 quarters in each game some good quality football against sound teams like the seahawks, cowboys, packers, bears and ravens all dating back to and follwing that oct 27 beatdown against the packers. Not to mention the 5 losses in the last :20 of games they led in this year.

    Drew Pearson still pushed off, and that wasn’t a catch by Nate Poole. Skol.

  86. Frazier is a total tool. He doesn’t even work the refs…which shouldn’t need to happen, but the way these zebras are today, it is necessary to at least pretend to be angry when they blow calls. He’s not sitting there projecting poise….he’s just confused and out coached every week.

  87. This is the third time in four years the NFL has called the Vikings to apologize for objective mistake(s) by the replay officials and the refs. NFC Championship Game had 5 incorrect calls in New Orleans favor. “The NFL regrets the errors.”

    Visante Scianco TD catch that was ruled TD on the filed was incorrectly overturned by replay official at Lambeau in 2010 (this is the worst possible mistake to make). “The NFL regrets the errors.”

    And now this game.

    There is ZERO excuse to blow a replay call. ZERO.

  88. Theres no way of preventing terrible calls while Goodell is the commish. If they could prevent them Goodells favorite pats team would never win.

  89. NFL is starting to look more like a rigged operation with every passing week. Worst week of crap calls I’ve ever seen. Really. Its time for an honest investigation into this. Maybe Congress can agree to do this together. It might just get them to talk to each other.

  90. jimmysee says: Dec 9, 2013 7:03 PM

    The officials must all be Republicans. The whole system is stacked in favor of the wealthy and successful teams.

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    Can’t agree. It is more like the bleeding Libs. Lower the bar to make an under performing team keep pace with the other who is playing better. Granted the Vikes have not been playing well this season, but those 2 calls the fumble and PI aided the outplayed Ravens greatly. I just chalked it up to home cooking. As a Vikes fan, it suits me fine. Currently the purple owns the 4th 1st round draft. Bye Ponder and bye Freeman.

    Hope we get a qb that becomes the franchise player with AP being the perfect balance on offense. Just hope we still can field a decent defense……

  91. It doesn’t surprise me in the least that the NFL office would contact the Vikings over a game they may have lost due to bad officiating to THE RAVENS. Had it been the other way around, there would be nothing but crickets chirping and nobody would have contacted John Harbaugh.

    I am sure every fan can say their team has been the unfair recipient of bad calls, but I can legitimately make a claim that Baltimore has been the target more than most teams other than the Raiders who seem to almost always lead the league in penalties. It all stems back from when the Jacksonville area and the Carolina area got footballs teams (when Jacksonville NEVER should have gotten one….fan support issue? Gee, didn’t see that coming in that terrible market) meanwhile Baltimore already had a rabid fanbase and a stadium fund in place the day the Colts left town (which was because of the stupid owner, not the fans).

    The NFL gave Baltimore the finger instead of “the ball.” That was the marketing slogan, “Come on NFL, give Baltimore the ball!” Instead then commissioner Tagliabue said, “Go build a museum.” Years later, Baltimore gave the finger right back to the NFL by giving poor mistreated Art Modell a new place for his franchise to thrive and make money with a new stadium. Something Cleveland decided they didn’t have to go for Art when they did so for The Indians, The Cavaliers, and even built a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Meanwhile Modell was left with a 70 year old horrible mess of a stadium. But I digress.

    Since the Ravens existed, there has been a hate-hate relationship with the NFL and the Ravens. Even though their is a new commissioner, the tactics haven’t really changed. This is the first game where I can say that the officiating actually benefited The Ravens. Let’s see…a few years ago in a game in Detroit the Ravens were penalized 28 times. The Lions were penalized 2 times. There was a new rule made when the NFL decided to review a field goal kick in overtime against…guess who….the new Cleveland Browns. The Browns would have lost the game if the field goal was ruled no good, which was the original call. Time expires, game over. The rule is you couldn’t review kicks. The NFL did for that game, over-ruled the call, and the Ravens then lost that game. The next day the NFL changed the rule about reviewing kicks.

    Back to the point. Something needs to be done about the horrible officiating. Games should be dictated by the players on the field, not the zebras.

  92. muskyhunter2542 says:Dec 9, 2013 8:03 PM

    Frazier is an idiot. What, do you really want to win? All that does is mess up draft position.
    ________

    Yeah, I don’t think Frazier is going to care what the draft position is when he isn’t working for the team. I don’t think the league’s apology is going to look that great on his resume.

  93. vikingdoode says:Dec 9, 2013 10:52 PM

    I tell my sons 7th grade football team never allow a ref dictate a game. Out score your opponent . If it means you beat them 35-0 just insures you can whether the bad calls. The knee down was bad! The others were ticky tack. Vikes defense shoulda created some turn overs…. Lacking this year!
    _______

    Well, they had three interceptions and the fourth would have ended the game except for a bogus PI call.

  94. Browns benefitted from a fumble that was not called earlier in the game plus Josh Gordon continuously yanking on Talib’s facemask but got hosed with an unnecessary roughness call and the PI. The Ravens benefitted from from Gerhart’s non fumble and the PI call that was phantom which set them up for the game winner. The Dolphins benefitted from a phantom call. The Broncos were given 21 points thanks to bs unnecessary roughness and holding calls. The Eagles benefitted from phantom calls like the hold on Suh. Officiating is worse than ever something needs to change.

  95. My first memory of a blatant Referee fix was watching The Steelers and Seahawks Super Bowl. Rapesburger was the winning QB with I think, the lowest quarterback rating ever. The calls got so ridiculous that I couldn’t even be angry anymore. It was my understanding that it was so blatant that the Refs favored the Steelers in that game the NFL did away with part time Referees. (see Hassleback get flagged for roughing after tackling a defensive player after an interception) Fast forward to yesterdays Seahawk Niner game. In the first half I witnessed two defensive holding calls that changed the entire game, they both resulted in drives that were stopped giving another 4 downs to a Niner team that needed every extra down that they got. After watching Sherman get a holding call in which the replay show him slapping at a player who is running past him, I watch the next series of Niners offense were there are THREE holding violations on one play, with none being called. I have been faithful to the NFL’s product since I can remember, (approx 42 years) if it turns out to be true that there is bias to keep games close and fans in the seats I will never attend another game, buy any merch, or patronize any were that carrys NFL Ticket. I did this in the past when I realized the NBA had players that would “take the night off” while still participating in regular season games. I paid alot of money to see those athletes compete, not skip rope up and down a court waiting till playoffs to bring their A game. The NBA lost my business and the NFL is coming close to following their lead. Let these multi millionaires play in pads made of leather like Jim Thorpe wore and then maybe I will feel better about spending $500 bucks on a Sunday afternoon watching a rigged sport that doesn’t even have the decency to try and hide the fact that the outcome is assured as much as possible by league nurtured zebras!

  96. Giants fans bumping their gums is awesome. The are obviously relevant this season. They did manage to beat a few back up QBs but have done nothing else. Eli is Geno’s little sister.

  97. The calls mentioned where bad, but what about the ball placement throughout the game? You could say the weather affected the poor placement, with one exception, not one of the multiple poor placements favored the Vikings and they even burned a challenge on one of the, would have been two if the officiating team bothered to tell anyone it was first down, instead of just dropping the sticks.

  98. Many calls are subjective. Did he hold? Was there pass interference? Those calls are split second and very difficult. But, when a ref goes under the hood and somehow cannot see the RB’s knee go down, then his hand, then the fumble? What is his excuse? The snow prevented his knee from being down? It was one of the most ridiculous calls I’ve ever seen, and nobody can say he wasn’t down by contact.

  99. How about the ref that grabbed Anquin Bolden for the 49ers? Will he get fined for that? So it’s okay for them to grab the players but if a player touches them they get penalized and fined. That’s fair! NOT!!!!

  100. What’s sad is these refs make a minimum of $60k/year from what I’m told and they have other full time jobs. If the NFL wants to pay them that much it’s their choice. But my suggestion would be to hire full time refs and you can get them for the same price to start. The worst thing the NFL did was cave after that Hail Mary Monday night game. Now the refs have the upper hand and it seems they get away with everything. Always have and always will.

  101. As a Ravens fan all I can say is welcome to our world Cleveland. We’ve been on the bogus end of so many game changing Tonya Brady calls it’s ridiculous. The calls that went our way yesterday against the Vikings sort of made up for some of that. The Vikings were screwed by the refs, no doubt. I’m just glad the Ravens were on the beneficial side. The refs will even the score when we play Tonya in two weeks.

  102. I’d like to use this opportunity to say that this is NOT the first time the league has apologized to the Vikings for blatantly wrong calls.

    In 2010, in week 7 there was a game between the Vikings and Packers that the Packers ended up winning because, and the league publicly admitted this, they gave a touchdown to the Packers that they didn’t get, and took one away from the Vikings that they DID get.

    The final score with the refs cheating: 24-28, Packers.

    The ACTUAL final score: 31-21, Vikings.

    The Packers went to the playoffs with the last seed at 10-6. Their REAL record was 9-7. The Buccaneers and Giants were both 10-6 and did not make the playoffs because the Packers went with the incorrect record.

    They then went on to win the SuperBowl that THEY NEVER QUALIFIED FOR! There for, the 2010 Superbowl is a SHAM that never happened.

    I’ll give you back that ONE touchdown when you give back your undeserved, cheating-to-get-there Superbowl.

    Green Bay Cheaters.

  103. Once again, nobody cries about officiating like Viking fans.

    Boo hoo. Saints tackled too hard in 09.
    Boo hoo. Packers were given their NFL record 13th World Championship in 2010.
    Boo hoo. Ravens were given the game in 2013.

    Or, maybe you just suck.

  104. No, you suck. Ha!

    The ’09 nfccg was one of the best, they had a clear mission: kill the quarterback. Reminded me of real football of the 60’s and 70’s and the Vikings gave the game away when they still could’ve won.

    Last time I checked the packers only won their 4th championship and 2nd in the last 50+ years dating back to 1962 with super bowl #2. The

    Ravens and the refs helped our draft positioning. We’ve been punked by officials for decades but keep playing, we don’t expect championships handed to us like packer fans.

    Nobody complains more then packer fans: jerry rice still fumbled, favre is the devil in purple, golden tate didn’t catch the pass….
    wah! pack. wah!

  105. Did they mention that they had put in a request that the Ravens make the playoffs so they have a storyline regarding the defending champions?

  106. basedrum777 says: Dec 10, 2013 4:01 PM

    Did they mention that they had put in a request that the Ravens make the playoffs so they have a storyline regarding the defending champions?
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    I mentioned it earlier. Look at the most egregious cheat calls. Look where the storylines lie. Chip Kelly, Baltimore chance to repeat, their love affair with Jim Harbaugh (and they still barely won despite getting the better end of a lot of questionable calls), New England still in prime position to get a bye. And on and on and on.

  107. Two issues with your comment Mr. Wright: The eagles/Lions game was poorly officiated but not in favor of the Eagles and Jim Harbaugh (that’s the SF one I think) did not receive any pref. treatment. Its just that Sea has the best home cooking from the refs this side of Kobe Bryant. Holding should be holding everywhere not just outside of Seattle.

  108. Dude Harbaugh whined all week and in the pregame to get the officials to call Sherman and Maxwell. You could even hear him audibly on FOX’s on-field mics crying for calls all game.

  109. mswravens says:
    Dec 9, 2013 7:04 PM
    I know if I was a Vikings fan, I would be complaining also. The call on the Gerhart fumble was not only inexcusable, it’s incomprehensible. How did he not see the knee down on replay?

    But c’mon…enough with the interference call. Pitta was pulled down. Illegal use of hands at the very least. Sorry, but I don’t see that the Vikes were victims there…and there were plenty of calls that went against the Ravens also.

    Enough of the crying. Make a stop & you win the game!
    ………..
    Vikes fan here and I agree with this poster…..MOSTLY. I think the Greenway PI call was VERY ticky-tack and it should have been let go….BUT I agree, make a stop with a minute to go and the game is won! Vikes havent been able to do it all year! 5 games lost in the last minute allowing the opposing team to march right down the field and score. Sure seems like a defensive schematic issue to me……and all the teams have the Vikes late game defense figured out EXCEPT the Vikings!

  110. Win goes to the team with one of the worst fan base in NFL.
    No big deal. Vikes can use the extra draft picks. Suck for more luck now and look forward to better times 2014.

  111. complaining about the officiating is an effort in futility. because at the end of the day the calls tend to even themselves out. case in point the pats got jobs on the non defensive holding call in the carolina game, got jipped in the jets game and caught a break in the browns game. Alas, for those fans out there still squaking about the tuck game in 2001 fans forget the roughing the OB call on 3 and 28 that went against the patriots in the divisional game against the raiders in 1976 sometimes it just takes longer than to get made up.

  112. Pete screwed my Ravens over against Pittsburgh when we lost 23 to 20, because he negated 2 of our touchdowns for some bogus penalty. So Pete was flattening the field or making it up. But anyway, Vikings made contact on the PI penalty, so it could have drawn a flag anyway. So it is what it is and the Minnesota D was poor.

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