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Lions lead NFC North, but Jim Schwartz’s seat is getting warm

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For a coach whose team is in first place with three weeks left, Detroit’s Jim Schwartz can’t feel great about his job security right now.

The Lions’ loss on Sunday to the Eagles puts the pressure on: If they win their next three games, they win the NFC North. But if the Lions lose any of their next three, there’s a good chance they’ll lose the division to either the Bears or the Packers (who play each other in Week 17).

And that raises a question: How could Lions owner William Clay Ford justify keeping Schwartz if the Lions don’t win the division in a year like this? If the Lions can’t win the division in a year when the Packers and Bears were both devastated by injuries and the Vikings totally melted down, when could they ever win the division?

The good news for Schwartz’s job security is that Ford is a very patient man. This is, after all, the man who sat through year after year of “Fire Millen” chants raining down on him before finally firing Matt Millen. But with Schwartz currently sitting on a 29-49 record in his fifth year as the Lions’ coach, it’s difficult to see how Ford could stomach a late-season collapse.

Detroit is favored to win its next game, at home against Baltimore a week from tonight, and the Lions will be favored to win their final two, home against the Giants and at Minnesota, as well. So there’s a good chance that Schwartz will lead his team to a three-game winning streak to end the season, and that the Lions will host their first playoff game in 20 years.

But if that doesn’t happen, it may be time for Ford to show Schwartz the door.

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  1. ziggystheansah says: Dec 9, 2013 11:22 AM

    Ok, i HATE schwartz as much as any other Detroit fan(yes, we all hate him), but you CANNOT blame him for sundays collapse. He called all of the correct plays but our Defense couldn’t make a tackle if our season depended on it (ironic, i know). It is NOThis fault Raiola snapped it too early, bell fumbled twice and stafford mishandled 6 fumbles. That IS NOT schwartz’s fault. I give him a pass this week, but our 1st playoff game begins next week. Any loss essentially eliminates us from playoff contention. While i want to THINK we can handle a baltimore team that barely beat MN, a giants team that is on all lebrls of bad, and the lifeless Vikings (assuming AD is out), this is the same lions that lost to Pit & TB.

  2. scrp2 says: Dec 9, 2013 11:22 AM

    You can’t blame Schwartz for losing the “Snowmobile bowl”

  3. tvguy22 says: Dec 9, 2013 11:23 AM

    I bet that warm seat feels good, after losing in the snow yesterday.

  4. juke1220 says: Dec 9, 2013 11:23 AM

    I have always liked Jim when all others call for his job. Saying that, I whole heartily agree that if we do not win the division, he should be let go. Ford is patient but I am not sure how patient Mayhew is. Go Lions!

  5. ajgreenhof says: Dec 9, 2013 11:23 AM

    I’ve never liked Schwartz he’s unable to get his team to play disciplined football.

  6. ocdn says: Dec 9, 2013 11:26 AM

    His seat shouldn’t be warm, it should be RED HOT. His coaching staff can’t adjust to the games needs let alone run away with the division that’s decimated by injury.

  7. tigers182 says: Dec 9, 2013 11:26 AM

    I’ll believe he’s on the hot seat when I see him packing his bags. Ford’s are too comfortable with embarrassing employees.

  8. jay0134 says: Dec 9, 2013 11:28 AM

    Lions need a real head coach like Gruden or Cowher. They actually need a whole new coaching staff too. There O and D coordinators are ridiculous.

    Calvin Johnson would probably have 20 TD’s a year if someone else coached him and didn’t wait until the second half to throw him a pass. And Suh would actually play like a professional.

  9. jazsrt says: Dec 9, 2013 11:28 AM

    I really want the Lions to be a contender-The team has solid players, a very patient fan base, who, overall respect the game of football.

    I just can’t see it happening with Schwartz.

    If they make a change, the Lions will be an extremely scary team in the future.

  10. thejuddstir says: Dec 9, 2013 11:30 AM

    Schwartz is schwartz and the Lions are the lions. All the lion’s fans bravado aside, there’s 50 years of history to support the inevitable meltdown coming. Schwartz is another Shiano, thinks trick plays and gimmicks will overcome the shortcomings. With yesterday’s outcomes, I fully expect A. Rodgers to be playing this week and even a mediocre packers team will win the division. Winning teams have leadership either at the coaching position or on the field, the Lions have neither and Rodgers will be the difference. This is not to give kudos to M. McCarthy or TT as we saw what their contributions are to the Packers. It doesn’t get any simpler than their record with and without Rodgers.

  11. tundratommy says: Dec 9, 2013 11:31 AM

    “Detroit is favored to win its next game, at home against Baltimore a week from tonight, and the Lions will be favored to win their final two, home against the Giants and at Minnesota, as well.”

    You mean like they were very recently favored against Pittsburg and again at home against Tampa Bay? Good luck with that three game winning streak though…..

  12. Youknowimright says: Dec 9, 2013 11:32 AM

    His seat should not only be hot but completely on fire after what he did yesterday. How you allow your tackles to continually get double teamed and not make an adjustment is beyond me. go to an odd front. Play the ends in a 3 technique and get out of the wide 9 crap. They just ran straight ahead though the LB gaps that were created and the lb were out too wide to adj laterally to the straight ahead running. It happened 3 times with two different backs so you have to blame him. they needed to constrict the box in that weather and play man on the WR’s. If you got beaten deep in that weather then so be it but much harder throw in that crap than run.

  13. linemanguy74 says: Dec 9, 2013 11:33 AM

    Lion will p— it away

  14. 0ffsides says: Dec 9, 2013 11:36 AM

    Bring on the Chin or Chucky, time for Schwartz to go!

  15. whatjusthapped says: Dec 9, 2013 11:38 AM

    The Lions will win the division but not because they are about to go on a 3 game winning streak.

    They will win because the Bears and Packers need to win out and that’s not going to happen either.

    So the Lions will host their playoff game and lose to either the Panthers or 49ers but the good news is that Schwartz will keep his job for another 2 years at least. He is a terrible head coach but getting the Lions into the playoffs will be seen as performing a miracle. Its not really a miracle of course, the Vikings actually winning a Superbowl is a miracle but that’s never going to happen.

  16. lks311 says: Dec 9, 2013 11:38 AM

    If the job comes open, far and away, the best coaching job that will be available: Talent on both sides of the ball and your franchise QB (albeit, Favre-esque) in place.

    This team is ready to drive off the lot.

  17. longsufferingbillsfan says: Dec 9, 2013 11:38 AM

    As much as I don’t think Schwarz is a terrible coach, it seems like it wouldn’t be hard to lure a big name offensive mind in there to manage Stafford to Megatron if they wanted to.

  18. lks311 says: Dec 9, 2013 11:40 AM

    tundratommy says:
    Dec 9, 2013 11:31 AM
    “Detroit is favored to win its next game, at home against Baltimore a week from tonight, and the Lions will be favored to win their final two, home against the Giants and at Minnesota, as well.”

    You mean like they were very recently favored against Pittsburg and again at home against Tampa Bay? Good luck with that three game winning streak though…..
    —-
    He said “favored”. No one mentioned anything, even remotely resembling a lock. Try comprehending what you read, next time.

  19. America's Team is Also God's Team says: Dec 9, 2013 11:47 AM

    Long overdue. He’s a terrible coach with the talent he has on the team, not to mention he’s just a grimy guy.

  20. ravenswhat says: Dec 9, 2013 11:50 AM

    They would have 10 wins right now if the coach was even slightly above avg.

  21. 3yardsandacloud says: Dec 9, 2013 11:50 AM

    I’d fire him this morning. I’m tired of the excuses. “oh it snowed”. Guess what? Philly seemed to be able to deal with the snow. You were up 14-0 going into the final quarter of the game. Schwartz is a hinderance on this team. He is unable to lead.

    This showed up versus Pittsburgh and Tampa. With the talent on the roster, this team could be 9-4, at least.

    It’s time to move on and bring in a coach that can bring this team to the next level. Give me Bill Cowher or Jon Gruden. Enough time has been wasted on this guy.

  22. ejm845 says: Dec 9, 2013 11:54 AM

    It didn’t help him that reggie bush wouldn’t play with a Charlie horse

  23. johnelwayishorsefaced says: Dec 9, 2013 11:55 AM

    The key, important part of the headline of this post being “Lions lead NFC north”
    So hate on haters. Talk as much trash about Schwartz as you want. You probably shouldn’t though unless your team is in first place in their division.
    I actually think it’s really funny how much energy people expend hating Jim Schwartz. There are lots of other coaches (Harbaugh for example) and players (way too many to name) who are way bigger tools than Schwartz but a lot of people really fixate on him for stupid little reasons like him throwing his headset down after a win.
    Maybe they wouldn’t spend so much time thinking about him if the Lions weren’t in first place.

  24. jeffchadwick says: Dec 9, 2013 11:55 AM

    No excuses for the sad sack Lions, but a “good” chance that the Packers/Bears will go 3-0 given both teams are at .500 right now? MDS had forgotten he hated the Lions for a season.

  25. bgrillz says: Dec 9, 2013 11:55 AM

    tundratommy says:
    Dec 9, 2013 11:31 AM
    “Detroit is favored to win its next game, at home against Baltimore a week from tonight, and the Lions will be favored to win their final two, home against the Giants and at Minnesota, as well.”

    You mean like they were very recently favored against Pittsburg and again at home against Tampa Bay? Good luck with that three game winning streak though…..
    —-
    He said “favored”. No one mentioned anything, even remotely resembling a lock. Try comprehending what you read, next time.

    The author of the article implied that there is a good chance they will win all three as well. Maybe you need a bit of a lesson in the reading department as well…

  26. sbmcintosh36 says: Dec 9, 2013 11:56 AM

    I’m not a Lions fan or a Schwartz guy but saying “sitting on a 29-49 record in his fifth year as the Lions’ coach” is not exactly fair he inherited a complete and utter disaster of a team thanks to Mr Millen .
    They’re close now and probably need a new coach but don’t use his record the first 3 years as reasoning.

  27. radsputin says: Dec 9, 2013 11:57 AM

    PLAYOFFS! PLAYOFFS!? I’d like them to just win a game against a decent team playing their starting quarterback. The only difference between this and last year is a couple of lucky breaks.

  28. thestrategyexpert says: Dec 9, 2013 12:00 PM

    This is all BS and unacceptable. Ford talked a big game before the season started about how everything was going to be different and postured like we would be a great team. This is way short of what he expected and insinuated we would see. Failure and abysmal football. We don’t have a respectable team, or respectable play, and that’s because of Ford and his horrible GM choice. This sucks.

  29. atepper001 says: Dec 9, 2013 12:00 PM

    bears fan here… crossing my fingers they hold onto him. can you imagine how good this team would be with even a decent coach?

  30. jazsrt says: Dec 9, 2013 12:02 PM

    johnelwayishorsefaced says:
    Dec 9, 2013 11:55 AM
    The key, important part of the headline of this post being “Lions lead NFC north”
    So hate on haters. Talk as much trash about Schwartz as you want. You probably shouldn’t though unless your team is in first place in their division.
    I actually think it’s really funny how much energy people expend hating Jim Schwartz. There are lots of other coaches (Harbaugh for example) and players (way too many to name) who are way bigger tools than Schwartz but a lot of people really fixate on him for stupid little reasons like him throwing his headset down after a win.
    Maybe they wouldn’t spend so much time thinking about him if the Lions weren’t in first place.
    ________________________________

    People (and the majority of Lions fans) hate Schwartz because of his 29-49 record, not because the Lions are in first place.

    Trust me, not many fans or teams are envious of the Lions. If they change coaches, that will all change.

  31. richcranium2112 says: Dec 9, 2013 12:04 PM

    Really now, did any Lions’ fan believe that for some reason a Schwartz coached team would be able to sustain anything but a losing streak?

    The complete, total lack of discipline displayed all five years by Schwartz and his players is coming to roost. 2013 will be the biggest flame-out ever.

    Earth to WC and Bill Ford: You’re wasting a huge amount of talent and money with this staff!!

  32. lionsfan2086 says: Dec 9, 2013 12:04 PM

    I have stood up for Jim in the past but I think his time in Detroit is done. Unless we win the Super Bowl (which even as a fan has about as much chance of happening as me winning the lottery) he needs to go. This team continues to make the same mistakes each week. So while you can’t blame him for fumbles or 2 bad calls handing the Eagles 8 points, you can blame him for week after week allowing the team to have a lazy attitude and never, and I mean NEVER adjusting at half time. Real teams and real coaches make moves and counter moves to combat what their opponent is doing. A good coach would have us being able to handle success. A good coach wouldn’t have allowed us to look past Tampa to GB. A good coach would have adjusted at Pitt, hit the gas and scored another 20 points to blow them out of the stadium. A good coach wouldn’t have allowed his team, up 14-0 to think the game was over because of the weather. There are too many talented players on this team to not win 10-12 games every year.

  33. emmonsh says: Dec 9, 2013 12:05 PM

    I blame Swartz for sunday completely. what kind of idiot does shotgun in a blizzard. did you see philly do it, nope. shwartz should be gone and if Stafford doesn’t correct things next year move on. he has tremendous numbers of yards but that’s the offence they run not Stafford.

  34. jumbomesquite says: Dec 9, 2013 12:06 PM

    @bgrillz

    No offense, dude, but for a guy lambasting how other people read, you misused punctuation three times in your first three sentences. There’s some irony there.

  35. sippindasyzurp says: Dec 9, 2013 12:07 PM

    Best case scenario for Det is they finish out of the playoffs at 8-8 and they get rid of the entire coaching staff, and bring in someone with experience. They would land an experienced coach cause they are not a rebuild. Worst case scenario, make playoffs and get smoked in first round and Schwartz keeps job for another season.

  36. mikemccarthyhof says: Dec 9, 2013 12:09 PM

    I cant hold it in anymore, PACKERS ARE WINNING IT ALL! We got our letters in the mail a few mounths ago saying were set up to win it from #4 seed. GOPACKGO

    freggin idots thought PACK we’re out of IT!?!

  37. jgedgar70 says: Dec 9, 2013 12:11 PM

    sbmcintosh36 says:
    Dec 9, 2013 11:56 AM
    I’m not a Lions fan or a Schwartz guy but saying “sitting on a 29-49 record in his fifth year as the Lions’ coach” is not exactly fair he inherited a complete and utter disaster of a team thanks to Mr Millen .
    They’re close now and probably need a new coach but don’t use his record the first 3 years as reasoning.
    _____
    I was thinking along those lines too. It’s hard to hold that 2-14 record in ’09 against Schwartz, since the team was 0-16 the year before.

    All that being said, the team does appear to be under-achieving, and if they do miss the playoffs, it might be beneficial to get another coach.

  38. bla bla bla says: Dec 9, 2013 12:11 PM

    atepper001 says:
    Dec 9, 2013 12:00 PM
    bears fan here… crossing my fingers they hold onto him. can you imagine how good this team would be with even a decent coach?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Packer fan here in total agreement with you.

  39. ruvelligwebuike says: Dec 9, 2013 12:13 PM

    If you would have told me in August that:

    1. The Packers would lose: Rodgers, Bulaga, Cobb, Finley, Hayward, plus Perry and Matthews for the bulk of the season.

    2. The Bears would lose Cutler, Briggs and a host of others for the bulk of a season.

    3. The Vikings were the Vikings.

    4. And the Lions would play a last place schedule with no major injuries.

    I would say there is no way the Lions don’t finish 11-5 and win the division by accident. That team is LOADED with talent.

  40. jeremycrowhurst says: Dec 9, 2013 12:14 PM

    Maybe he should get the axe at the end of the season, but the receivers coach should be shown the door right now. I’ve never seen so many passes go through the hands of players as I did in that game. It was embarassing.

  41. The Great Ted Thompson the Genius says: Dec 9, 2013 12:17 PM

    This sounds like a preposterous statement, but over the last few weeks the best team in the NFC North has been the Vikings. Detroit will probably have to win that last game to get into the playoffs and keep the Packers out. I will be cheering for the Lions like crazy in that game.

  42. wisconsinhillfolk says: Dec 9, 2013 12:17 PM

    I have been a staunch defender of Coach Schwartz. I’m done. If he doesn’t win out, he should be fired. You can’t blame Mayhew as he has supplied the talent. It’s gotta be Schwartz… and, unfortunately, his entire staff.

  43. linemanguy74 says: Dec 9, 2013 12:19 PM

    Pack beats a 10 loss team and ties the Vikes and are going to the SB “Ya Sure You Betcha”

  44. alewatcher says: Dec 9, 2013 12:19 PM

    The point isn’t that the Lions are in 1st place. The point is that with all the injuries on the Bears and Packers, and the Vikings melting down, the Lions should running away with the division. Heck, they should be on the verge of clinching.

    The constant miscues and lapses in concentration point to coaching. The Lions are truly their own worst enemies.

  45. seatownballers says: Dec 9, 2013 12:25 PM

    How about them Vikings? Huh?
    Talked a big game before, no delivery

    3-9-1

    Feels like

    3-91

  46. hyzers says: Dec 9, 2013 12:29 PM

    As an actual Lions fan, I like Jim Schwartz and want him to stay. It’s not his fault the LBs and secondary missed 20 tackles yesterday or the offense fumbled 8 times or whatever. Players were in position and they failed to execute.

    Also, stop with all the injury excuses, especially Chicago fans: first match up both teams were healthy and Detroit whipped the Bears fair and square. There have been a lot of injuries to the Lions but you never hear the same excuses. Megatron missed 1.5 games, Reggie has missed a couple, Ziggy Ansah has missed like 4 games and still has more sacks than Fabio or Peppers.

  47. trollaikman8 says: Dec 9, 2013 12:30 PM

    Yeah this guy is in over his head and will never take the Loins to the next level.
    Get rid of this bum.

  48. tigersfandan says: Dec 9, 2013 12:30 PM

    If this was 2005 and we were sitting in first place, I’d be ecstatic. However, it’s not 2005 and we actually have a very talented team that should be so much better than 7-6 (and at least a little bit disciplined). I’d like to think that it shouldn’t be too hard to find a better coach.

  49. bringbackwayne says: Dec 9, 2013 12:34 PM

    9-7 or 9-6-1 should be good enough to win the division.

    Packers need to win out. Even with Rodgers that is a difficult task with road games at Dallas and Chicago. Even their home game against Pittsburgh will not be easy.

    Two more wins should do it for the Lions.

    The Bears play Dallas, @ Philadelphia, and GB. Even @Cleveland won’t be easy.

    Gunther Cunningham is the coach that needs to get canned for the Lions.

  50. shaggytoodle says: Dec 9, 2013 12:37 PM

    linemanguy74 says:
    Dec 9, 2013 12:19 PM

    Pack beats a 10 loss team and ties the Vikes and are going to the SB “Ya Sure You Betcha”
    ________

    They got as good of a chance as anyone else in the NFC North except for the Vikings.

  51. conormacleod says: Dec 9, 2013 12:37 PM

    “But if the Lions lose any of their next three, there’s a good chance they’ll lose the division”
    ————————————
    Really? Because I had them going 2-2 in the last four games and still winning the division. What, GB wins a single game since October and suddenly the Lions needs to win out? I don’t think so.

  52. baltimoresnativeson says: Dec 9, 2013 12:39 PM

    If they lose to the Ravens next week on National TV that seat is going to get set on fire.

  53. ruvelligwebuike says: Dec 9, 2013 12:39 PM

    Everything this team does points to poor coaching/team management.

    1. Penalties/sportsmanship issues.
    2. Up and down play within games (Pittsburgh…didn’t they score 27 points in a minute or something and still lose?)
    3. Playing to the level of competition.
    4. Dumb turnovers.
    5. Teaching Matt Stafford to throw side-armed like Uncle Rico. That has to be someone’s fault.

  54. steveb9995 says: Dec 9, 2013 12:40 PM

    Don’t forget the Lions own the tiebreaker with the Bears by virtue of their two head to head wins.

  55. purpleguy says: Dec 9, 2013 12:41 PM

    The Lions have been handed the NFCN on a silver platter and are watching the title trickle down their legs. The last game of the season may be the only time in the history of the NFCN that the Pack and Bears cheer on the Vikings.

  56. emoney826 says: Dec 9, 2013 12:51 PM

    Some of you lions fans forget what its like when Rodgers plays. He makes the offense 100 times better, and opposing teams have to adjust how they attack our terrible defense. In the games that the packers have lost, opposing teams have only put up 20-30 points on them. Rodgers can easily put up 30 against anyone. Against the lions, if you gave Rodgers those 4 turnovers, he would have turned them into points, and it would have been an entirely different game. My money is on the packers to win out and the lions to lose one of the next two games. The lions just aren’t a very good team when they don’t play together and when they’re coached by an idiot. Maybe next year, lion fans.

  57. drbob117 says: Dec 9, 2013 12:52 PM

    Take this from an Eagles fan who had to watch Jim Washburn and his moronic , unsound, wide 9 nonsense the last few years that made the Eagles defense into a joke. Wide 9+ other team running a inside zone read= sure loss. If Schwartz wants to keep his job he should fire Washburn and his kid, and Gunther Cunningham TODAY. Andy Reid fired Washburn in the first week of December last year, and the Eagles defense was better just for having him gone.

  58. rmc1995 says: Dec 9, 2013 12:54 PM

    The Lions haven’t exactly been injury free. Right tackle was a problem early with injury. Burleson broke his arm after starting the year on fire. Ryan Broyles went down. Megatron and Bush have missed games. Houston, Slay, Ansah, Fairley, Bill Bently have played injured and missed games.

  59. gurkharavens says: Dec 9, 2013 12:55 PM

    It will be more of a furnace after the Ravens defeat them next week.

  60. filthymcnasty1 says: Dec 9, 2013 12:57 PM

    When MDS wrote that the Vikings melted down, I laughed and laughed.

    They really are Minnihapless and tasteless.

  61. huricaneditka says: Dec 9, 2013 12:57 PM

    Restore the Roar? More like: please shut up because your team sucks and it always will. Sorry mine doesn’t rhyme. I still think it’s way better though.

  62. glac1 says: Dec 9, 2013 12:58 PM

    Lions will not beat Baltimore.

  63. southpaw2k says: Dec 9, 2013 1:00 PM

    If the Lions do lose the division this year, it has to go down as one of the great choke jobs in recent memory. I have no idea what to expect in next Monday night’s game, but considering Harbaugh is a far better coach than Schwartz, Reggie Bush’s status is up in the air, and the Ravens’ secondary is far better than the Lions’, the Ravens have a decent shot at winning.

    Which would mean Schwartz could face a firing squad.

  64. Trannesota Biqueens says: Dec 9, 2013 1:05 PM

    And the Vikings are still terrible, all is good in the world.

  65. maskill6 says: Dec 9, 2013 1:10 PM

    The Lions did themselves no favors this weekend in their loss to the Eagles. Schwartz deserves to be on the hot seat, not because of the blizzard bowl in Philly, but for the lack of preparation and coaching in the games they should have easily taken care of. Tampa, Pittsburgh, and Arizona should have been games the Lions took care of. The stupid penalties have to stop for this team to be a contender. Should the Lions find a way to back their way into the playoffs, I cannot imagine any team dreading to play them. Regardless of the result of this season, Schwartz and his crew has taken this team as far as they can go. Time for a change. A disciplinarian and a leader.

  66. badmoonrison says: Dec 9, 2013 1:10 PM

    Theyre not gonna get rid of Schwartz. Its gonna be slim pickens for any team that fires its HC. Gruden already stated hes staying at MNF and Cower isnt coming out of retirement. Thats why I feel sorry for Wash because they arent going to have much to choose from once Danny Boy fires the red lobster.

  67. padraighansen says: Dec 9, 2013 1:11 PM

    As a Packer fan….it scares the hell out of me what a competent head coach would do with all the talent on that roster. That is by far one of the most talented teams, 1-53 (along with Seattle and a few others) in the NFL.

    If they win, it’ll be in spite of Schwartz.

  68. darkneptune73 says: Dec 9, 2013 1:13 PM

    The Lions should of won the division by now. But nope. They suck. They suck because they can’t have a good coaching staff to direct them to where they need to go.

    Schwartz needs to be fired.

  69. winstonjed44 says: Dec 9, 2013 1:15 PM

    Schwartz deserves some credit for changing the culture somewhat in Detroit and get them to the playoff appearance. However his in game decision making and the lack of discipline that he seems to foster has cost the Lions greatly. With the talent the Lions have, they should have already run away with the division.

  70. janvanflac says: Dec 9, 2013 1:22 PM

    It’s unbelievable that a team with that much talent can be so sloppy.

  71. suhcity says: Dec 9, 2013 1:28 PM

    I have been a supporter of Schwartz since he came to town, and no-one can deny he has turned the Lions in the right direction….but I agree if we don’t make the playoffs…it may be time to look for a new head coach. If the Lions ever played mistake free on both sides of the ball, they could beat anyone in the NFL.

  72. bringbackwayne says: Dec 9, 2013 1:29 PM

    The Lions were 4-12 last season, and nobody expected them to win the division this season. Many were saying 6-7 wins. They are going to win 8 or 9. To say that they should have run away with this division is stupid, even with the injuries to GB and CHI qb’s.

  73. dwarftosser says: Dec 9, 2013 1:31 PM

    conormacleod says:
    Dec 9, 2013 12:37 PM
    Really? Because I had them going 2-2 in the last four games and still winning the division. What, GB wins a single game since October and suddenly the Lions needs to win out? I don’t think so.
    —————————————————-

    The Packers have been with #12 since October. If he’s back, they will win out.

  74. johngaltwho says: Dec 9, 2013 1:36 PM

    johnelwayishorsefaced says: Dec 9, 2013 11:55 AM

    Maybe they wouldn’t spend so much time thinking about him if the Lions weren’t in first place.

    ————————————————-

    No we all had no respect for him when the Lions were (as usual) not in first place and we will still comment on his lack of intelligence, discipline and integrity when the Lions inevitably drop back out of first place.

  75. isphet71 says: Dec 9, 2013 1:37 PM

    The level of talent on the Lions is painfully evident when watching the games.

    It’s a traveshamockery that they haven’t run away with the NFC North this year. Yeah, the players have been crazy sloppy at times, but in the coach is ultimately responsible for that.

  76. joeslacco says: Dec 9, 2013 1:41 PM

    I like how these bandwagon fans speak for the majority of us Lion fans, how the hell do you think most every fan hates Jim? Speak for yourselves followers and negative wanna be fans. Im behind my coach along with a ton of other fans. You losers, Go liions!

  77. vikingapologist says: Dec 9, 2013 1:43 PM

    Funny comments about the Vikes, next season with a franchise QB, and some tweaks to the Defense, which they have No D this year, the Vikes will be the best team in the division. Imagine AD with a real QB and real coaching! Unstoppable

  78. ahs2 says: Dec 9, 2013 1:44 PM

    To convince me that Schwartz should not be fired, the Lions have to win out & make it as far as the NFC championship game. If he did all that, I’d give him ONE more year.

    The talent on this team has a short-term shelf life in terms of salary cap & in the general short lifespan of a player. Need to have the right guy going into next year or it’s a huge waste.

  79. metrocritical says: Dec 9, 2013 1:47 PM

    Throughout his tenure, week after week after week, Jim Schwartz’s teams have continued to make the same kinds of mental mistakes over and over. The team has assembled enough physical talent to be competitive but the coaching staff has failed to instill the team with the requisite mental toughness and football intelligence to outperform even lesser opponents and routinely underperforms. The team has not developed their QB into a savvy winner, satisfied to let him sling the ball recklessly with the hope that something big might happen (too frequently that “thing” is an untimely) In the face of obvious defects and mounting evidence, he stubbornly refuses to adjust or concede that his way isn’t working out. Such obstinance will cost him his job, hopefully sooner rather than later, but, more importantly, it has robbed the fans of a golden opportunity to meaningfully enjoy the advantages afforded by the talents of an elite receiver. In a game driven by stats, the most memorable stats will be offensive yards that didn’t translate to wins and penalty yards that lead to collapses. While statistics won’t directly reflect opportunities lost and can be subject to interpretation and manipulation, the numbers in W/L column always speak the truth. In Schwartz’s case, a refusal to veer from an ill conceived blue print has lead to far too many Ls.

  80. sbchampsagain says: Dec 9, 2013 1:51 PM

    The Lions will absolutely destroy the Ravens this weekend.

  81. beedubyatoo says: Dec 9, 2013 2:22 PM

    The Lions have the best personnel in the division.

    Even Obama said they are shovel ready.

  82. justanotherdummy says: Dec 9, 2013 2:23 PM

    Walking into Lincoln Financial Field yesterday my father and i were discussing the game, and agreed the best thing the Eagles had going for them was that Schwartz is the Lions coach. He’s a stiff, and should be winning games by accident, but he has found a way to lose with superior talent. The fact that he brought in that bum Washburn is reason enough to fire him, maybe even execute him.

  83. crubenst says: Dec 9, 2013 2:26 PM

    Don’t blame Schwartz. Sometimes you’re just up against an undefeatable force. CHIPSTER! E A G L E S! Super Bowl Bound!!!!!!

  84. steveb9995 says: Dec 9, 2013 2:28 PM

    LMAO at the people who think Ford will fire Schwartz. Not gonna happen.

  85. vitomannino says: Dec 9, 2013 2:44 PM

    Nothing will change until the Lions get new owners. They are making their money by doing just enough to fill the seats. They aren’t committed to the Lions or Detroit. All they need to do is look down the street at the Wings and Tigers on becoming a professional sports organization that is successful and competitive on a regular basis.

  86. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 9, 2013 2:44 PM

    He ought to be fired for all the dumb decisions he has made in their last three losses in games they had no business losing. INCLUDING yesterday.

  87. metrocritical says: Dec 9, 2013 2:54 PM

    johnelwayishorsefaced has no idea what he is talking about. Detroit Lions fans hate Schwartz, not because he is a tool, plenty of tools have won in this league. No, Schwartz is hated because he is a tool that loses. A tool that doesn’t bring the best out of his players, whose team doesn’t play smart or poised or fundamental football. He is a tool that makes the same mistakes all of the time and so do his players. Schwartz is the worst kind of tool: A tool that doesn’t fix anything.

  88. japmen says: Dec 9, 2013 2:58 PM

    What will he do when the amazing talent he has actually gets old? This guy can’t win with the best WR in football, a very solid QB, a scat back and some of the highest drafted DL in the game. Getting beat by the Bucs should have ended this debate.

  89. flickaboogie says: Dec 9, 2013 3:23 PM

    Schwartz should have been fired at the end of last season when the Lions lost 8 in a row to end the season. It was obvious, at least to me that he lost the respect of the players. No team this talented would ever do that if they had a decent coach.

  90. axespray says: Dec 9, 2013 3:28 PM

    thejuddstir says:
    Dec 9, 2013 11:30 AM
    “This is not to give kudos to M. McCarthy or TT as we saw what their contributions are to the Packers. It doesn’t get any simpler than their record with and without Rodgers.”
    ————————————
    I’m pretty sure TT is the guy that drafted Rodgers and most of the playmakers on this team, not his fault they all got hurt for significant time this year.

    He also helped build a superbowl appearing team in Seattle…

    McCarthy coached up Aaron Brooks….. AARON BROOKS…. Then Matt Flynn, not his fault Graham Harrell/BJ Coleman both flopped – not every 7th round/undrafted QB can be coached.

  91. richcranium2112 says: Dec 9, 2013 3:35 PM

    Last time I was at Ford Field and the Lions scored, I swore I hear a giant toilet flush.

    Then my football drinking buddy told me it was a lion’s roar.

    I liked the toilet flush better…with Schwartz swirling.

  92. badmoonrison says: Dec 9, 2013 3:41 PM

    You Lions fans who want Schwartz fired just dont get it. And honestly, you have my sympathy, I kinda like the lions but who the heck are you going to get to replace him thats better? The options are extremely minimal this year. Forget Gruden, Cower and Dungy. They all publically stated theyre not coming back. What are you gonna do? Get a college coach? We all know that outside of Chip, that that NEVER works out. Stick with Schwartz, get some more talent and be done with it.

  93. IamtheBucsFan says: Dec 9, 2013 4:07 PM

    Who wants to coach in a hell hole like Detroit? Maybe a coach from the Kabul Sharias. I hear they’re pretty good.

  94. tokyolionsfan says: Dec 9, 2013 4:08 PM

    Mayhew needs to fire Schwartz as soon as possible (when they lose their next game and give up the division). The Lions have a lot of talent, and the job of the coaching staff is to get the most out of that talent as possible. They have repeatedly failed to do that and before you know it will have wasted the careers of Calvin and Suh and Fairley and Stafford in the same manner as Barry.

  95. varnbo says: Dec 9, 2013 4:11 PM

    Let’s see, franchise QB- check; HOF, once in a generation WR- check; Good running game-check; Number 1 draft picks on D- check.

    The guy should have been fired last year. His team under performs and lacks discipline.

    The championship windows are only open for a short time in the NFL, it’s definitely time for Schwartz to go.

  96. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 9, 2013 5:14 PM

    tokyolionsfan says: Dec 9, 2013 4:08 PM

    Mayhew needs to fire Schwartz as soon as possible (when they lose their next game and give up the division). The Lions have a lot of talent, and the job of the coaching staff is to get the most out of that talent as possible. They have repeatedly failed to do that and before you know it will have wasted the careers of Calvin and Suh and Fairley and Stafford in the same manner as Barry.
    ————–

    if they lose to the Giants (they won’t lose next week) then yes, he deserves to be fired. The Giants have become a sick joke.

  97. atepper001 says: Dec 9, 2013 5:29 PM

    dont forget about linehan too. 3rd and 1, 3rd and two and he throws it from the gun with no hint of running. too many low percentage pass plays. how many times do you lion fans yell at the tv for the offensive play calling? schwartz hasn’t reeled him in either, much like his undisciplined players. entire coaching staff is just so frustrating. i couldn’t imagine being a lion fan and this is coming from someone that has lived through 30+ years of following the bears.

  98. beedubyatoo says: Dec 9, 2013 8:12 PM

    badmoonrison says

    “What are you gonna do? Get a college coach? We all know that outside of Chip, that that NEVER works out. ”

    Pete Carroll comes to mind.

  99. Ferdinand says: Dec 9, 2013 8:21 PM

    Why do I have this feeling that he would get hired to coach Washington in a second?

    Washington does seem intent on having a complete flustercluck and that would do the job better than just about anything.

  100. thetruthcampaign says: Dec 9, 2013 9:32 PM

    All Lion’s fans are baffled by this like the media is too. It was shotgun formation most of the snowpocalypse game on Sunday, and well, that didn’t work out. Why were they in the formation so much, when it wasn’t working out?

    I think the Lion’s run D was destroyed due to the elements. They could not hold onto McCoy. On the other side, Bell was mostly running into a wall. We should’ve passed more, because that was working. They burned our secondary like everyone burns it.

    Even if we make the playoffs, I mean, come on. It’s the same for any NFC North team, even with Rodgers or Cutler, if any of us make the playoffs, it’s probably a one and done deal.

    Schwartz has done some good and brought a couple winning seasons so far with a chance for a second playoff appearance in 3 years.

    The turnovers have been insane this season, and it’s been EVERYONE including CJ and Bush and Bell and Stafford. Pettigrew may well be the least of the turnover problem this season, ironically. Special teams has sucked until this game.

    Frankly, we win a lot more games if we don’t turn that ball over. Is that ALL on Schwartz or what??

  101. thetruthcampaign says: Dec 9, 2013 9:40 PM

    The Lions have 28 giveaways. That’s tied for 2nd most, and the -10 differential is 5th worst. Killer.

    How does coaching resolve that? Do you bench guys? I mean you’re not benching Stafford or CJ. You can’t bench BOTH Bush and Bell.

    Tell me how you MAKE those guys hold onto the ball as a coach.

  102. lions81slappy says: Dec 10, 2013 1:28 AM

    @huricaneditka
    the lions suck huh? while their recent trend of coughing the ball up over this 4 game span is frustrating as well as disheartening, the last time I checked they beat the bears both times they played each other this year. and pretty soundly I might add. your post just comes off as sour grapes. btw hurricane is spelled with two “r”s. but then again I expect that level of intelligence from a chicago sports fan

  103. dtownsportslions says: Dec 10, 2013 5:17 AM

    I think Jim Schwartz is a OK coach. Having said that, if the Lions don’t win these last three games and IF (BIG IF) that happens, they have to have a strong showing in their home playoff game for him to keep his job. This team is simply too talented to be wasting these years of CJ in his prime. I don’t doubt that there would be coaches intrigued by coming here. They have a extremely talented offense all around, a strong front 7 (other than the Eagles game where everyone stood up with their pants down watching Shady McCoy gallop into the end zone) and they have depth with young players.

    These are 3 VERY winnable game, the Lions better show up Monday Night and get it together. I love them but I hate them sometimes too.

    Go Lions.

  104. thetruthcampaign says: Dec 10, 2013 3:39 PM

    “I love them but I hate them sometimes too.” Don’t we all. We love to hate them, and we hate to love them.

    GO LIONS.

  105. lions81slappy says: Dec 10, 2013 8:55 PM

    the last two posts are the most well reasoned I’ve seen and make perfect sense while summing up exactly what it means to be a fan of the honolulu blue and silver loveable losing leos

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