Shanahan ponders shutting Griffin down for the rest of the season

AP

As Washington coach Mike Shanahan mimics George Costanza trying to get fired by the Yankees so that he can work for another team and/or Costanza trying to get fired by Play Now so he can get a buyout, Shanahan could be poised to drop a giant ball of oil from the window at the team’s facility.

Shanahan explained on Monday that he’s considering shutting quarterback Robert Griffin III down for the rest of the season.

During Shanahan’s Monday press conference, he repeatedly referred to Griffin taking 24 sacks in five games, including six on Sunday against the Chiefs.  Shanahan also said that the goal is to ensure that Griffin will be healthy for the 2014 offseason.

Shanahan’s comments come amid a report from Mark Maske of the Washington Post that the team currently is considering the possibility of firing Shanahan and withholding his pay for 2014.  If it can be proven that Shanahan orchestrated Sunday’s report that he nearly quit in January 2013 over the relationship between Griffin and owner Daniel Snyder, the team could be able to show that Shanahan engaged in conduct detrimental to the team or otherwise violated his contract.

With the prevailing opinion in league circles being that Shanahan leaked the information to Adam Schefter of ESPN, who then covered Shanahan’s tracks by handing it to Dan Graziano of ESPN.com, the team’s suspicions may be accurate.  Proving the link will be a different issue, since no one from ESPN will ever admit that Shanahan was the source, under oath or otherwise.

The broader goal could be to work out a compromise, with Shanahan for example getting half of his money for 2014.

Shanahan’s leverage apparently includes the threat of benching Snyder’s BFF, opening the door for Kirk Cousins to prove over the final three weeks of the season that maybe he should be the quarterback of the future.

117 responses to “Shanahan ponders shutting Griffin down for the rest of the season

  1. Tear down the entire organization and hit the reset button. Dangle RG3 for a second rounder, ride Cousins out the rest of the year, and start to assemble a short list of head coaching candidates you want to to lead this team. No more recycled coaches and players.

  2. RGKnee is no good. If he was good, he wouldn’t need his legs to be a good quarterback. See Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, etc.

    Defenses have figured him out, hes not smart enough to adapt and read defenses. Whos surprised?

  3. Snyder should just fire Kyle Shanahan immediately. I have a reason why, I just think that would fit this situation perfectly.

  4. That’s rather brilliant. Benching Griffin is the quickest way for Shanahan to get his $7 million vacation started ASAP (after Griffin complains to Snyder during their candle light dinner tonight).

    On top of that, playing Cousins is the right move. Griffin couldn’t even start at Baylor the way he is playing!

  5. What does the bottom half of the article have to do with the top half of it and the title?!! Anyway, Griffin should’ve been shut down since week one with it being Cousins job to lose.

  6. After watching the highlights of Cheifs game, don’t worry Shanahan, Robert Griffin has already shut it down for the year. R-Words wish they had an elite QB like Joe Montana Flacco.

    #ravensownmaryland
    #ravensrepeat

  7. as long as we don’t receive an appearance from Body Suit Man, I am in favor of Shanny’s plan.

  8. Ok Shanahan. There was no possibility of injury from weeks 1-13. This is obviously a power play.

  9. I’m not a fan of Shanahan, but the best thing for Redskins would be for Snyder to give him an extension and get out of the locker room. Snyder runs that team like Al Davis ran the Raiders for the last 10 years of his life, except that Davis knew how to run a team in the 70’s and 80’s.

  10. And give him a chance to mess around with Kirk Cousins now? Okie dokie.

    Wow what an absolutely worst time to be giving Kirk his shot to step in. Ok NOW you can play buddy, now that NOTHING is on the line except RGIII’s convenience. You aren’t a backup QB in the NFL Kirk, you are chopped liver.

    Kirk should consider telling the coach thanks but no thanks, and that he wants to make sure HE is healthy for 2014 too. He should see more value in himself than his coach does. He shouldn’t actually decline to play as you can’t ever do that in the NFL, but he should think about just so he can stay respectful to his own self-worth.

  11. I’m trying to laugh at this whole mess, but you know what? It’s more sad than funny at this point. Not for Shanahan or Snyder, both of whom are absolutely detestable people, nor even for Griffin, who I’m becoming less impressed with as he keeps opening his mouth.

    I feel sad for Redskins FANS. Because no matter what team you cheer for, deep down you’d have to agree that no football fan deserves to have to watch their team come apart like this over and over again.

  12. Actually, not a bad idea. Skins already have a low number one for what it’s worth (#33-34). If Cousins can show some value the last 3 games, they can then trade him for a second rounder.

    Then after Snyder fires shanahan and gets his new coach, they get something from the shanahan mess.

  13. scoops1 says:
    Dec 9, 2013 3:40 PM
    should have shut him down from week 1 to 8
    =========================================

    100% Correct. Even football analysts like ex-players, pro QBs, and coaches were saying that RG3’s ego made hime rush back too quickly. Shanny, with his decades of experience, was overruled by an early 20s year old player who thought he knew better and went limping to the owner to undermine the coach to let him play.

  14. this is the first smart thing Shananan has said/done all season..

    You didn’t draft Cousins to risk the Franchise quarterback.

    There is no reason Griffen should be playing..
    I despise the skins and their bandwagon fans..

    but RG3 is legit one of the top talents this league has seen in a while..
    They owe it to RG3, to the fans and to the NFL to make sure this kid isn’t put at risk unnecessarily.

    RG3, being the competitor he is, is going to try and play every snap he can.. That doesn’t mean it’s the best idea to do so.

    let this kid heal and get into the playbook.

  15. Why would Shanahan agree to take half his money? If he did leak the report about quitting good luck proving it. Play Cousins and pray he looks good enough to trade for draft picks that the Redskins desperately need.

  16. Remember back to all those bogus reports about how RG3 was “going to be even better than Adrian was” after his surgery? Just goes to show that many in the media who “love football so much they made it their job”, they don’t even actually appreciate the sport. Instead of appreciating great feats, they just try to make the next story even better. It’s sad really.

  17. Boy, the Red Lobster sure wants out of there and in a hurry. This is turning into a bigger circus than the Incognito debacle. Poor Skins fans. I kinda feel bummed for you guys.

  18. RG3 will be out of the league in 5 years. No leadership skills, no pocket awareness, no longer a threat to run and quite possibly the most spoiled brat of a pro QB I’ve ever seen.

  19. That’s rather brilliant. Benching Griffin is the quickest way for Shanahan to get his $7 million vacation started ASAP (after Griffin complains to Snyder during their candle light dinner tonight).

    ————————————————–
    That part in parentheses made me laugh out loud!

  20. old shanahi should have shut down the entire right side of the oline weeks ago, but he had a brain fart and allowed them to play every week.

  21. So let me get this straight; ESPN or a reporter at ESPN is going to give up their source to prove that Shanahan leaked information. No way!

    Dan Snyder needs to stop hiring over the hill coaches.

  22. Well, if I had the right side of their O-line blocking for me, I’d want to be shut down, too!

    This is just another way of Shanny saying, “We’re done,” as he did when the team last year was 3-6.

  23. I mean this might be a far fetched theory, but you never know.

    Has anyone thought that maybe someone at the Redskins organization other than Shanahan leaked this so that Snyder and the Redskins could fire him, show that he supposedly leaked this story himself so they wouldn’t have to pay him?

  24. “If it can be proven that Shanahan orchestrated Sunday’s report that he nearly quit in January 2013”

    Has a team successfully fired a coach for cause and withheld money over a media report? I can’t think of a single example off the top of my head – Kiffin, maybe?

  25. And another one bites the dust. Seems these can’t miss QBs are missing badly. RG3 the most spoken nick name in the business, is getting the business and much deserved. Snyder must be crying in his soup, and thats well deserved also.
    How the mighty have fallen, and Snyder thought his teams nick name was all the rage,,,
    I do hope he with holds Shanahan’s 2014 pay check, this IS great theater. If Snyder arranges bail for Aaron Hernandez, Id suggest Shanahan skip the country.

  26. Snyder, the Shanahans, Griffin 3, Schefter, Graziano …. this is like a Mission Impossible script. Shanahan should have pulled RG3 in that playoff game last year when he first got banged around. If he had, perhaps RG3 would have started the season healthy and a better evaluation could have been made. Now the Skins have to wait until next year (they been hearing that a lot too) to check out RG3 and see if he’s any good.

  27. Mike & Kyle want to go to Houston to coach the Texans and bring Cousins to play QB. That’s why all of a sudden there’s all this drama, he’s trying to get fired to make himself available quick, before McNair hires someone else….Great conspiracy theory? I’m sure I’m not the first to say it….
    Problem is, he is too greedy trying to get fired and collect, instead of quitting and taking the $7 Mil loss on himself. That’s why this is turning into a steaming turdpile

  28. In theory, this is a common sense notion–however, if Cousins comes in, wins a few games, and does so while playing well–I don’t need to explain what happens then–it’s a big mess, that is for sure. The wheels are officially off now.

  29. OL lets see if I get this right, you are a fan, have very expensive tickets, even though the team only has three wins, your now told the best players may just sit the rest of the season so they are ready to go next year. I know what I would do with the envelop to renew for next year.

  30. This is great. Maybe Shanahan should have started Cousins in Week One so he could have been fired for subordination. Then everyone would have known Snyder sets the lineup

  31. Chiefs swept the East, granted NY is clearly down, and something happened to WASH, but Dallas and Philly look decent. Keep it up KC, it’s great being a fan of an ascending team. Of course I’ve been a fan of a descending team so hang in the Washington.

  32. the best part of this is that the Redskins traded away the #1 overall pick in the 2014 draft..

    thats awesome.

  33. It would have been really interesting to see what could have been if RG3 was drafted by a responsible franchise. I wonder what he could have accomplished being a backup for two years, getting reps week after week with a solid team and a knowledgeable quarterback coach. How the Redskins handled him was a travesty – if he was a child, that would be considered some form of neglect or abuse. Alas, we’ll never know what might have been.

  34. You’d think after the way John Elway made Shanahan look like a genius, he’d be a bit nicer to RGIII.

    Wonder what makes this so different, unless Shanahan actually believes in his own hype.

  35. These RGIII bashers are probably the same morons who were saying last year that Cam Newton was a bust, that he couldn’t lead a team or read defenses, and that a running QB could never succeed in the NFL. How’s that working out so far this season? The predictors of doom and gloom were premature last year for Newton and they are premature this year for Griffin.

  36. Given the relationship between meddling owner Snyder and RG-me, ya gotta ask who would want that HC job – and that will become even more true if Snyder ties to stiff Shanhan for the last year of his contract.

  37. While I am not a big fan of Snyder’s moves in the past, I am finding a hard time blaming him for the state of the skins. I believe Shanahan is trying to make him the scapegoat for his inadequacies:

    Mike’s stats:

    6-10, 5-11, 10-6, 3-10 = terrible

    QBs he brought in his first season: Grossman and Beck = terrible

    OLine small guys, great for the run, bad for pass blocking = terrible

    Mike wanted his son, Haslett, 3-4 defense, George Allen, practice bubble, training camp in Richmond, 7 million a year, Special teams coach, Burns. Snyder provided. Results = terrible.

    Sorry, I can’t pin this one on Snyder.

  38. They might not have a good football team but the Redskins are always entertaining.

    As for the QB situation, it makes sense to play Cousins down the stretch to see what he has to offer and if the team responds to him, but to me he doesn’t look like he has much of an upside compared to RGIII.

  39. 1. Find a Coach off the Andy Ried Coaching tree.

    2. Get a Defensive coach who can keep us in the top 10.

    3. Dump the entire Shanahan staff.

    4. Don’t hire any ex-Cowboys, legacy retreads or mercs.

    5. Last resort Get a Russ Grimm or a Doug Williams to interview for the hc position.

    6. Get a Free agent WR, DB, LB, New O-line

  40. Nothing to play for this year and that offensive line clearly can’t protect him. Really should of done it sooner, there was no reason to rush him back, though part of that rests with RG3 and the all in for week 1 thing. If they had played Cousins early, RG3 could have come back healthier and if Cousins was effective then they could have traded him and got something back for him.

  41. This situation is getting UGLY! The skins players will display disgust for the entire situation by laying down (again) against ATL next weekend, with or without RGme playing… Skins players will QUIT on the field and be blown out… shanny will be fired immediately after the game!

  42. While I am not a big fan of Snyder’s moves in the past, I am finding a hard time blaming him for the state of the skins. I believe Shanahan is trying to make him the scapegoat for his inadequacies:

    Mike’s stats:

    6-10, 5-11, 10-6, 3-10 = terrible

    QBs he brought in his first season: Grossman and Beck = terrible

    OLine small guys, great for the run, bad for pass blocking = terrible

    Mike wanted his son, Haslett, 3-4 defense, George Allen, practice bubble, training camp in Richmond, 7 million a year, Special teams coach, Burns. Snyder provided. Results = terrible.

    Sorry, I can’t pin this one on Snyder.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    This is on Danny Boy because he cannot attract a quality coach. I feel sorry for the loyal fans!

  43. ravanator says;

    ” R-Words wish they had an elite QB like Joe Montana Flacco.”

    ————————————————–

    Uumm, thats a real BIG stretch to try and put Flacco in the same category as the great Joe Montana. Just a few statistics below that set the two QBs miles apart.

    1)While a member of the 49ers, Montana started in four Super Bowl games and won all of them

    2)Montana is the only player to have been named Super Bowl MVP three times.

    Flacco has won 1 super bowl, not quite Montana’s level just yet…

  44. As a lifelong Redskin fan I can honestly say I’m utterly embarrassed by what this franchise has become. True fans will never simply change their allegiances but how can we as football fans continue to watch this dog and pony show year in and year out? Its sad that this franchise is without question the laughing stock of the NFL.

  45. Shanny could care less about the redskins. If Philbin and co are fired ( which i find highly unlikely if they make the playoffs) then he will end up in Miami and hopefully they don’t let him bring his son with him.

  46. I agree that this sucks! Everyone saying that Cousins should have played week one…. He got hurt in preseason!!! That last two preseason games we only had RGII and Pat White…besides, the entire offense revolves around that stupid a$$ READ OPTION!!! RGIII would be just fine Ina conventional offense with good O-line….

  47. The Andy Reid coaching tree has not exactly been successful. I give you: Brad Childress and Leslie Frazier as exhibits a and b. Harbaugh in Baltimore is the most successful. This year notwithstanding, Rivera in Carolina is only passingly acceptable (and he’s more from the Jim Johnson tree than Andy Reid, althouh, of course, Johnson worked for Reid. Mohrinweg is not from the reid tree but from the Holmgren tree.

    I think a guy with a bright future, maybe not in DC, is Todd Bowles, who, of course, worked form Reid but is actually from the Bill Parcells tree.

  48. The Rams front office is still laughing at these morons. RG3 sucks, but the main problem in DC is they have no talent at WR, OL sucks. Don’t even get me started on whatever that is they call a defense…

  49. a lot of this is the media’s fault. they built up rg to a level he couldn’t perform at. remember every story was about rg3, you didn’t hear about anybody else for months on end. he was their savior come to the nfl land. it went to his head and he was doomed to fail. he was a 4th rounder at best but the media had to have the luck, rg3 drama.
    i have no sympathy for shannahan or the skins. they bought into this mess along with their fans.

  50. I guess last year’s success was a fluke.
    Like all running quarterbacks they start off hot, confusing and confounding defenses.
    Then everyone gets tape on them and figures out how to bottle them up.
    Since they never truly learned to make progressions and read defenses, once you take away their second option (running) you end up with no where to go but down.

  51. This team will *never* win anything until they change their racist name.

    Snyder is too stubborn to do the right thing.

    Fans will pay the price.

  52. “If it can be proven that Shanahan orchestrated Sunday’s report that he nearly quit in January 2013 over the relationship between Griffin and owner Daniel Snyder, the team could be able to show that Shanahan engaged in conduct detrimental to the team or otherwise violated his contract.”

    It’s not good lawyering to opine about contracts until you have seen the actual contract language.

  53. What an embarrassment to a proud, accomplished franchise. I am old enought to remember when Washington, Dallas, and SF were dominant, respected, and feared. Now, only SF has regained some of this legacy. What had changed? Ownership. Snyder and Jerry don’t get it. Bob Griffin is a talented athlete, a la Vick. I hope it ends well, maybe in Houston. Shanahan is done. Sad to see such a drama with the ‘skins.

  54. If Cousins starts and looks good this becomes the funniest NFL story of the year.

    Being that it concerns Washington – it almost must happen this way by law of nature.

  55. You just know Cousins will get behind center and run off three straight wins thanks to a bunch of inspired teammates. That is the only way this will play out in good ole DC.

  56. this man is a employment relation savant, for real.

    he’s going to get himself fired before the season ends come hell or high water AND get to keep a very big portion of the money he is contractually required to receive as if he played the contract out in good faith.
    he’s an interesting guy.

  57. I loved seeing that stadium empty. It’s a dump and run by a dump of an owner. What makes the NFL great is the parity it tries to create. Nearly all the well run teams can rebound from bad years quickly. But when you have dot-comm Danny trying to cheat (via the salary cap) and get’s conned into thinking you can trade away a bunch of picks (Herchel Walker trade anyone?!) for 1 player – you end of with a team with no depth and little overall talent. Robert Griffin is good – but it’s a team game and the team isn’t. Add in a team that let’s the HC brings in his son as a coach – sorry that’s weird. Let him go coach somewhere else..and you have the debacle you now see.

  58. Stop going to games and buying merchandise..Make Synder sell the franchise.. he wont keep it if it makes no money..let a non meddling owner get the franchise..or hope he falls ill of a terminal disease..god I hate him and what he has done to the skins

  59. One read then run QB’s, don’t thrive in the NFL.

    Until Bob can prove he can run a pro offense, they should play the guy who can, which is Cousins.

    Snyder will rue the day he insisted to bet the farm on Bob the 3rd.

  60. What a slimy thing to do. This is just to spite both RGIII and Snyder. Since when did this coaching staff ever have any concerns for RGIII’s health? I’ve watch every game he has played since coming into the league and I could not believe how many times the read option was called when the game was already out of reach and RGIII had taken a beating all game long.

  61. granadafan says:
    Shanny, with his decades of experience, was overruled by an early 20s year old player who thought he knew better and went limping to the owner to undermine the coach to let him play.
    __________

    Too bad that’s not what happened. Shanahan and the entire organization was DESPERATE to escape blame for the original injury. And the easiest way for them to do that was to have him start Week 1, thus showing there was no real harm in having him start in the playoffs last season. Did Griffin want to get back? Sure, but the team issued one statement after another driving expectations that he’d be back in record time.

  62. Cousins won more games in the preseason (4-0) than RealGarbage3yardspassinginahalfvstheeagles has won all year. that egomaniac drama queen needs to be benched for the rest of his career. and get these subway commercials off tv that say “elite quarterback RG3” , that should be played on the comedy central channel

  63. It’s official!! RGME is a bust. Shanarat is a fraud. Snyder is a fool. Now the Rams have a shot at a real franchise QB when they end up with the #1 pick in the draft, and we’re stuck with this cancer.

    #FTTR

  64. Mike Shanahan is BRILLIANT!

    By announcing he wants to bench RG3&10 for the rest of the season he KNOWS RG3&10 is so egotistical that he will fight to stay in the games for the rest of the year.

    I say let RG3&10 stay in those games.

    Why risk hurting Cousins in a losing season RG3&10 helped cause?

    Play RG3&10 for the rest of the season.

  65. ravanator says: Dec 9, 2013 3:49 PM

    #ravensownmaryland
    —————————-
    Yeah, the Ravens own Maryland so much they could not get the Orioles to give them permission to start the season with a home game.

  66. While Kirk Cousins may very well be better than any QB that the Jets or Jaguars or Bills or Texans (or others) have, it’s a bit of a stretch to believe he’s better than a healthy RG3.

    Meanwhile, that bit that Shanny wrote on his resume calling himself The Ultimate Leader just appears more ridiculous by the day. It always was ridiculous, but the appearance is the thing at this point. Appearance is the only thing Snyder has ever thrown his money at.

  67. Kirk Cousins is not a starting Qb. We Redskins know this. Weak arm and stares receivers down……from bench to field. Beautiful pick six to Denver a few weeks back. HTTR

  68. To the poster who asked if RG3 will be better than Geno Smith, then compare fairly. See how Rg3 did in his rookie year and see Geno’s. Teams will likely figure out Geno more next year, the question is will he develop. To the guy said Cousins is better due to preseason record, uh it’s PRE season, teams don’t prepare in preseason like they do in the games that count. It’s WAY too early to say RG3s a bust. People said the same thing about Cam Newton and he improved. Wait a few years. See if a FULL offseason can help fix his issues passing. And also I think Cousins also will struggle. He tends to stare down WRs like RG3 does which leads to interceptions, both have to grow, but I would play Griffin, he’s the teams future, Cousins is another teams future.

  69. Wow. I would have ruined Snyder’s franchise for pennies on the dollar compared to what Shanny charged. I would also pitch three yards of offense per-half against the Eagles at a huge discount from Bobby Three Sticks’ invoice for identical services.

    And hire my kid for ~$500k a year? I’m not greedy or corrupt like that. I’d hire my dog for $30k a year. He’d look better modeling Redskins merchandise, and the girls think he’s darling.

    Snyder, call me. I’ll save you $millions$.

  70. Shanny is a great coach while Snyder is a terrible owner. He’s too meddlesome just like Jerry Jones and it’s also why both will never win a Super Bowl or another Super Bowl respectively.

  71. Coach doesn’t care about the money, he just wants the hell outta there.

    Dysfunctional franchise

    Shanahan was going to walk away after last years playoff run but then griff busted his knee up.

    Snyders affect on things cannot be overlooked. Though he doesn’t make ”football decisions” he is a douce and a petulant child. I’m afraid for the next ten years. The only way out is Snyder selling the team…

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