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Taking a closer look at Peyton’s cold-weather struggles

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Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning isn’t happy unless he’s unhappy.  Currently, he’s unhappy about the perception that he stinks in the cold weather.

“Whoever wrote that narrative can shove it where the sun don’t shine,” Manning told KOA radio after Sunday’s win over the Titans.

But the narrative wrote itself, fueled by Peyton’s results in cold-weather games.  But as we suggested on Sunday, the proper narrative may not be that Peyton struggles in cold-weather games.  The accurate narrative could be that Peyton struggles in big games, and that cold-weather games are often big games.

The narrative/reality preceding Sunday’s game against the Titans (which hardly was a big game) was that Peyton has a 3-7 record when the temperate at kickoff is 32 degrees or colder.  NBC Sports researcher Aaron Feldstein has tracked down the details of the 10 other games.

The first came in December 1999.  The 12-2 Colts visited the 2-13 Browns.  The temperature was 31 degrees at kickoff, and Peyton led a late drive that resulted in a game-winning field goal with four seconds left.  He completed 27 of 43 passes for 276 yards and no touchdowns or interceptions.  1-0.

The next year, the 7-3 Colts went to Lambeau Field in November.  The temperature was 27 degrees at the outset of the game.  Peyton completed four of 12 passes for 35 yards an one interception in the first half.  A comeback effort narrowed the gap to two point, but the Packers thereafter were able to run out the clock.  Green Bay won, 26-24.  Manning completed 25 of 44 passes for 294 yards, three touchdowns, and an interception.  1-1.

In November 2002, the 6-4 Colts visited the 7-3 Broncos.  Kickoff temperature was 25 degrees.  The Colts forced overtime at the end of regulation (thanks to Peyton’s favorite liquored-up kicker) and said liquored-up kicker won the game in overtime.  Manning completed 27 of 44 passes for 229 yards with no touchdowns or interceptions but one lost fumble.  2-1.

In January 2004, the Colts lost by 10 to the Patriots in the AFC title game; it was 32 degrees at the start of the game.  Peyton completed 23 of 47 passes for 237 yards, one touchdown, and four interceptions.  2-2.

In January 2005, the 12-3 Colts traveled to Denver for a Week 17 game, with the temperature again at 32.  Peyton started and played only one drive, because the Colts had their postseason position secured.  Denver won, 33-14.  2-3.

Later that month, the Colts again visited the Patriots, with the Pats again winning by double digits.  The temperature at kickoff was 25.  Peyton completed 27 of 42 passes for 238 yards, no touchdowns, and one interception.  2-4.

In November 2006, Peyton and the 8-0 Colts returned to New England, for a game with a 31-degree temperature at kickoff.  The Colts won by a touchdown, and Manning completed 20 of 36 passes for 326 yards, two touchdowns, and an interception.  3-4.

In January 2010, on a 12-degree day in Buffalo, Manning played in only the first three possessions of a meaningless Week 17 game against the Bills.  The 14-1 Colts lost 30-7.  Peyton completed 14 of 18 passes for 95 yards, no touchdowns, and an interception.  3-5.

The last three cold-weather games have come in the past year.  At Denver vs. the Ravens in the AFC divisional playoffs.  3-6.  At New England last month.  3-7.  Sunday against the Titans.  4-7.

So it’s 1-3 at New England, 0-2 in meaningless games where he played sparingly, and most importantly 0-3 in the playoffs.

Ultimately, that’s the real narrative.  The Jim Irsay one-Super-Bowl-win-in-16-seasons narrative.  The only way Irsay or anyone else will be able to stick that one where the one doesn’t shine will be for Peyton to get a time machine.

Or maybe to end his career like John Elway, with back-to-back Super Bowl wins.

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52 Responses to “Taking a closer look at Peyton’s cold-weather struggles”
  1. christiandrew25 says: Dec 9, 2013 2:54 PM

    “See! I’m right! See Peyton!”

  2. mataug says: Dec 9, 2013 2:55 PM

    Any Colts fan will tell you that cold weather’s not a problem for him as much as wind.

  3. nflofficeadmin says: Dec 9, 2013 2:57 PM

    Hey Aaron way to go! Mazel!

  4. rtookey says: Dec 9, 2013 3:02 PM

    He can deny it all he wants, he’s terrible in the cold… only played TEN games in cold, and lost 7 of them… Brady has played 30, and is 25-5… pretty convincing difference. If peyton makes it to the SB, im picking NFC, in a heartbeat…

  5. redandgoldhitman52 says: Dec 9, 2013 3:03 PM

    the broncos are pretenders , so are the saints who got blown out by seattle and the panthers who got blown out by saints .the 49ers vs seattle playoff game will be the superbowl , winner of that game wins it all

  6. thekiller678 says: Dec 9, 2013 3:04 PM

    Enough already!

  7. thekiller678 says: Dec 9, 2013 3:06 PM

    rtookey says: Dec 9, 2013 3:02 PM

    He can deny it all he wants, he’s terrible in the cold… only played TEN games in cold, and lost 7 of them… Brady has played 30, and is 25-5… pretty convincing difference. If peyton makes it to the SB, im picking NFC, in a heartbeat…
    ======================================
    Brady has been trash in the playoffs the last 8 years. (Even in 07 and 11, he played terrible in both AFCtitle games) I wish people would bring that up more rather than constantly giving him a free pass for accomplishments almost a decade ago.

  8. thestrategyexpert says: Dec 9, 2013 3:06 PM

    He’s also vulnerable to Irsayisms.

  9. rycoem says: Dec 9, 2013 3:13 PM

    Last time I checked, football is a team game…did Peyton lose last year’s game when Rahim Moore got burned? There are 21 other players that have to perform. This conversation is idiotic

  10. tonyugoh says: Dec 9, 2013 3:14 PM

    I’ll start off by saying that he’s had a few clunkers in the playoffs. Guess what! Every quarterback has had clunkers in the postseason! The problem with the whole narrative on Manning is that most fans and media members who criticize him determined their opinion of Manning back in 2003 and likely aren’t going to change their opinions. Its the same thought process that allows Tom Brady to be considered “untouchable” despite most of his playoff success happening 10 years ago when he had an all-time great defense, and so I creates these dumb narratives about each QB so for Manning, what always gets brought up is a “yeah, but…” while Brady can never do any wrong, Rodgers is considered the best QB without anybody ever explaining why (and for the record I’m not saying you’re wrong if you say he’s the best, but you have to explain it) and Brees just generally skates by without criticism, even though he and his team have had the similar perceived struggles on the road and in the playoffs.

    So if you want to follow these narratives that “Manning can’t play in the cold” or “Manning is a postseason choker” just know that these are all pretty small sample sizes, where he is generally playing against the best teams remaining in the league (and on the road), and that none of these really speak to Manning’s entire body of work. Its fun for fans and media members to compare Manning, Brady, Rodgers and Brees and the other all-time greats, but its pretty pointless because its more outside factors that determine each individual’s success and there isn’t any right or wrong answer in who you’d pick amongst those four or how you’d rank them. But because everyone wants to create a story or narrative to go along with every team, player and game, these stupid and unnecessary groupthink ideas come about.

  11. mallet22 says: Dec 9, 2013 3:15 PM

    Had to edit some of your copy:

    “Pitta played a big role on the final drive, drawing a PHANTOM pass interference flag on linebacker Chad Greenway”

    All fixed !!

  12. blacknole08 says: Dec 9, 2013 3:20 PM

    All this means is that until Peyton proves that he can win in January in cold-weather this stigma will remain with him.

    He will get a shot because he will be playing in cold weather for the entire post-season.

  13. peymax1693 says: Dec 9, 2013 3:20 PM

    I would love for Manning be able to tell Irsay to stick it where the sun don’t shine. I thought what Irsay did was totally classless. There was no need for him to publicly humiliate Manning, someone who did so much, not just for the Colts franchise, but the City of Indianapolis.

  14. deep64blue says: Dec 9, 2013 3:21 PM

    “So it’s 1-3 at New England, 0-2 in meaningless games where he played sparingly, and most importantly 0-3 in the playoffs.

    Ultimately, that’s the real narrative.”

    Exactly – it’s a narrative written by reporters and other observers. tonyugoh has very elegantly pointed out why it’s not reality.

  15. myshkingfh says: Dec 9, 2013 3:23 PM

    Can your stats and research people look into how many of those cold big games were on the road? And of Brady’s big games in the cold, were many of them at home?

    If the stunning result of this research is that NFL teams play better at home than on the road, I think there could be a Nobel in this for us!

  16. patfanken says: Dec 9, 2013 3:27 PM

    Killer, back in 2006, it was the defense that carried Manning to his ONLY superbowl win. He sucked the entire playoffs except for his great game (in the dome) vs the Pats.

    But back to the OP. The very first poster got it right. Its not so much the cold but the wind that hurts Manning. Go back to your research and I think you’ll find that Manning becomes a JAG when when he has to fight a wind greater than 15mph.

    You just have to look at the recent game with the Pats. How do you explain the most prolific passing attack in the league (maybe in NFL history) is held to 150 yds passing by a very average injury depleted defense that started 4 rookie.

    Manning has never thrown a tight spiral, So any kind of wind limits the areas he can attack, and when you do that, even a team defensively deficient team like the Pats can overload coverage ans squeeze his receivers. In other words he becomes predictible

    Its just another reason Brady is, was, and has ALWAYS been the better QB. There will always be arguments about whether Brady is the GOAT, but no one can deny that he’s the best bad weather QB to ever have played in the NFL, and the recent Denver game just proved it again.

  17. flash1283 says: Dec 9, 2013 3:30 PM

    thekiller678 says: Dec 9, 2013 3:06 PM

    rtookey says: Dec 9, 2013 3:02 PM

    He can deny it all he wants, he’s terrible in the cold… only played TEN games in cold, and lost 7 of them… Brady has played 30, and is 25-5… pretty convincing difference. If peyton makes it to the SB, im picking NFC, in a heartbeat…
    ======================================
    Brady has been trash in the playoffs the last 8 years. (Even in 07 and 11, he played terrible in both AFCtitle games) I wish people would bring that up more rather than constantly giving him a free pass for accomplishments almost a decade ago.

    So what he did to Houston in the playoffs last season doesn’t count because it doesn’t fit your argument?

    You cant say well look at the last 7 you have to look at all of them.

    And he is the BEST all time passing Montana last season. And yes I can say “HE” the NFL has an official stat in there records for QB playoff W-L.

  18. blacknole08 says: Dec 9, 2013 3:31 PM

    The problem with the whole narrative on Manning is that most fans and media members who criticize him determined their opinion of Manning back in 2003 and likely aren’t going to change their opinions. Its the same thought process that allows Tom Brady to be considered “untouchable” despite most of his playoff success happening 10 years ago when he had an all-time great defense, and so I creates these dumb narratives about each QB so for Manning, what always gets brought up is a “yeah, but…” while Brady can never do any wrong

    ———————————————————–

    Manning still choked in games after 2003. 4 of his playoff wins came in the 2006 post-season. SB loss to the Saints who threw the game ending pick. And just last-season against BAL, he was gifted with 2 Holiday TD returns and still managed to help choke that game away. Great regular-season QB, just not great in the playoffs.

    As for Brady, his defense let him down in both SB losses. Otherwise we could be talking about him have 4, maybe 5 rings. And even to this day he is still carrying his team with comeback efforts every week. They just might happen to steal HFA if Denver slips up.

  19. weepingjebus says: Dec 9, 2013 3:31 PM

    “Peyton completed 23 of 47 passes for 237 yards, one touchdown, and four interceptions. 2-2.”

    Ahh, thanks for the memories. Coming soon to a playoff game near you.

  20. peymax1693 says: Dec 9, 2013 3:31 PM

    Shouldn’t the fact that that those 3 losses in the playoffs came at the hands of the eventual Super Bowl champs?

    Can’t we give credit to those other team’s defenses instead of blaming Manning for each of those losses?

    Like tonyugoh said, the idea that Manning is a choker in the playoffs comes from the 2004 AFC Championship Game, when Ty Law picked him off 3 times. Is it a fair assessment? IMO no, it’s unfair.

    However, I do know that to change people’s perception of him, Peyton is going to have to win at least 1, if not 2 Superbowls before he retires.

  21. gacoltfan says: Dec 9, 2013 3:32 PM

    Record is 4-7. Two of those he played only a series, so the real record is 4-5.

    Look at the losses:

    Twice at New England in the playoffs. Playing on the road in the playoffs usually means the other team is just better.

    At Green Bay in his 3rd year. Green Bay was pretty good.

    Baltimore who also won at New England the following week and then won the SB. Not to mention Rahim Moore.

    Couple of weeks ago at New England. Muffed punt gave the Patriots the win in OT.

    Show me the “bad loss” in there that would indicate he can’t play well in cold weather.

  22. zoellner25 says: Dec 9, 2013 3:34 PM

    I live north of Denver and it was not windy at all yesterday afternoon. When the wind blows, we’ll see what Peyton can do.

  23. granadafan says: Dec 9, 2013 3:43 PM

    Instead of “crediting” or “blaming” Peyton for the 4-7 record in a TEAM game, they should review his QB rating compared to warm weather/dome games.

  24. maxinquaye7 says: Dec 9, 2013 4:04 PM

    I think the loss at New England will prove to be a very important game for the Broncos. It was almost as though the Broncos coaching staff bought into the cold weather/wind narrative and came up with a run first gameplan which resulted in Manning’s least effective game this season. Look at the number of passes he’s thrown in the games since. The “narrative” is still there and won’t go away, but I think (hope) the Broncos coaching staff realize the Broncos chances are better regardless of the weather if Manning throws the ball at least 35 – 40 times.

  25. dcapettini says: Dec 9, 2013 4:08 PM

    RYCOEM: As a matter of fact, Peyton did lose the game against the Ravens by throwing the pick that they turned into the winning field goal. They were in Baltimore territory. Another few yards and the game was theirs. Stop blaming Rahim Moore. That TD just tied the game.

  26. tmb333 says: Dec 9, 2013 4:09 PM

    Too many people don’t understand football is a team sport. Is it Brady’s fault they haven’t won a super bowl for years?

    To truly review Mannings’ performance, you need to watch every game. Count drop passes and passes that receivers should have caught that were intercepted. You should consider the Vegas line entering the game. If your team loses as a road underdog in the playoffs, how can it be one players fault? You are also assuming there were no errors by the officials that changed the game.

    Is it Mannings fault his secondary was beat deep at the end of each half against the Ravens? If the defense makes two basic plays, the Ravens have 14 less points and Denver wins. There is never a reason to get beat deep in the last minute of a half or game. That is totally on the defense.

    It is silly to think cold weather matters that much. Wind is another story but it effects every quarterback.

    Manning is the best ever. He has rarely if ever had a defense that was as good as his playoff opponents especially the Patriots. Folks just won’t accept how much luck goes into winning a super bowl.

  27. norseyapper says: Dec 9, 2013 4:10 PM

    The weather should be warmer due to the amount of hot air this subject is generating.
    Bottom line, if your team were so fortunate as to be making a serious run at the Super Bowl this year would you want Peyton Manning as your Quarter Back?
    While a very few of you can make an argument for the QB of your team the vast majority of us shout at the top of our lungs OH YEAH!

  28. shayeezy says: Dec 9, 2013 4:12 PM

    anyone who thinks peyton and that denver offense will look like themselves in a meaningful, high pressure game in the snow and wind in january is fooling themselves, just like manning fanboys have for the past decade. eight one-and-done playoff appearances. no one else even comes close.

  29. jersey73 says: Dec 9, 2013 4:18 PM

    So let’s look at the losses in detail. I realize the haters of Peyton simply illogically bash him with little knowledge of the game. But let’s look inside the games. First off, I am not a Tom Brady hater. I think he is an excellent

    QB, but this whole “cut and dry” better than Peyton is ridiculous.

    ————————

    The Colts lose at Green Bay on November 19, 2000. Peyton had a slow start to the game and then turned it on. Lambeau is a tough place to play back then. (Both teams were fairly equal that season with GB ended off 9-7, Colts at 10-6.)

    Numbers for the game:

    Peyton – 25 of 44, 294 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT
    Favre – 23 of 36, 301, 2 TD, 1 INT

    Green Bay out-rushed Indianapolis 148 yards to 71 yards.

    ————

    January 18, 2004 – AFC Championship game in Foxboro. Crap weather plus officials who refused to enforce illegal contact and defensive holding. Rules that were absolutely on the books and the Patriots simply held all the Colts

    receivers. People seem to think the rules changed the following year after Polian complained. The rules DID NOT change. The league finally said that they need to actually enforce them.

    Brady’s stats for this game were actually fairly pedestrian:
    22 of 37, 237 yards, 1 TD 1 INT.

    It was Vinatieri’s 5 FGs. And does anyone want to actually say that the Pats strength wasn’t their defense back then? Patriots had the #2 ranked defense. Colts had the #19th. Offensively, the Colts ranked #1 and the Pats ranked #4.

    So #1 & #19 lost to #4 & #2. But somehow, all anyone says is Peyton lost to Brady. Hmmmm.

    ————-

    January 2005 – Peyton played one series in this week 17 game at Denver cause it was meaningless for the Colts. So in essence, PEYTON DIDN’T PLAY THE GAME…but they count the loss against him.

    ————–

    January 2005 – AFC Divisional Game in Foxboro. In a snowstorm, here were the QB stats:
    Peyton – 27 of 42, 238 yards, 0 TDs, 1 INT
    Brady – 18 of 27, 144 yard, 1 TD, 0 INT

    Pats outrushed Colts 210 yards to 46…and chewed up time of possession. So how did Brady outplay Peyton again???

    —————

    January 2010 in week 17…another game where Peyton didn’t really play (remember Polian pulling the starters instead of going for the perfect season.) So in essence, PEYTON DIDN’T PLAY THE GAME…but the count the loss against him.

    —————-

    AFC Divisional Game last year against the Ravens. Want to rehash the pathetic Jack Del Rio prevent defense??? Broncos should’ve won in regulation.

    Peyton’s stats against the Ravens:
    28 of 43, 290 yards, 3 TDs, 2 INTs – 88.3 Rating
    Brady’s stats the next week at home against the same Ravens team:
    29 of 54, 320 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs – 62.3 Rating

    But Brady is so awesome in cold weather compared to Peyton? What happened?

    —————–

    Last month at New England. So if the fluke punt in overtime doesn’t hit the guy on the Broncos, the Broncos either drive for the win or the game ends in a tie (cause there was so little time left in OT.) That happens, Peyton doesn’t

    suck in cold weather? But the punt hits a special teams guy so he does? That makes sense.

  30. flash1283 says: Dec 9, 2013 4:33 PM

    Last month at New England. So if the fluke punt in overtime doesn’t hit the guy on the Broncos, the Broncos either drive for the win or the game ends in a tie (cause there was so little time left in OT.) That happens, Peyton doesn’t

    suck in cold weather? But the punt hits a special teams guy so he does? That makes sense.—


    Brady into the wind 17-23 220 yards 2 td 0 int QB rating 110

    Manning into the same wind 11-23 97 yards 1 td 1 int. 63 QB rating.

    The drive that manning tied the game was aided by 2 soft PI calls both on 3rd down. 1 was picked but reversed.

    Brady has a QB rating of 95.1 in weather below 32 degrees his team is 16-1 regular season and playoffs. Best all time.

  31. johninthewest says: Dec 9, 2013 4:36 PM

    Last time I checked, Football is actually a team sport.

  32. jlinatl says: Dec 9, 2013 4:37 PM

    I think I would want to see his QB rating as well as other statistical information in games below 32 vs. above. Then compare it to other warm weather/dome QBs to see if the drop off is statistically relevant.

    Wins are a relatively unreliable way to judge. Especially in the playoffs. How many of those games were the Colts favored to win?

    Not sure losing to the Patriots in the playoffs should be held against 1 player.

  33. somethingsmellsrotten says: Dec 9, 2013 4:42 PM

    Man, I am so sick of the countless stories on this site about that giant headed freak. It will be a great day when he is gone from the league for good…with only one SuperBowl ring. Because the Donkeys ain’t winning nothing.

  34. wjarvis says: Dec 9, 2013 4:45 PM

    So He’s lost 3 playoff games, each time the winner went on to win the Superbowl, 1 overtime time game, a 2 point loss, and 2 meaningless games that he barely played in. Like every QB he’s better in ideal conditions and while playing at home, but he’s fine in cold weather.

  35. ratsfoiledagain says: Dec 9, 2013 4:52 PM

    johninthewest says:
    Dec 9, 2013 4:36 PM

    Last time I checked, Football is actually a team sport.
    **********
    It is… but when you’re team lives and dies on the play of the QB, well, you can see why it’s the most important position in sports.

  36. truthfactory says: Dec 9, 2013 4:54 PM

    Everyone can talk smack about Peyton, but deep down you don’t want your favorite team playing against him (even if its in the playoffs). That should tell you all you need to know about Peyton Manning.

  37. baltimoresnativeson says: Dec 9, 2013 4:58 PM

    People have been criticizing him about this for 10 years. Why is he just now publicly expressing anger about it?

    Realizes a little truth in it perhaps?

  38. bobman2 says: Dec 9, 2013 5:04 PM

    BTW, to indicate that I am not totally blind to this issue, after this year’s Pats game I assumed his career was over. He looked old, underconfident and outgunned. Even when they had the wind and Talib went down, he stuck to handoffs whereas in years past he’d immediately attack the replacement. Brady did very well into the wind in that game. So maybe it was wind? A touch of flu? Not sure, but Manning was completely different in that game compared to the whole season, warm or cold, windy or calm. The Pats’ D is not so formidable, so it was especially damning.

    Remember, his super bowl win was played in a moderate monsoon. Bears played deep cover-2, so with one 55 yard bomb exception, he played a short game successfully all day in the wind and rain. Not a stellar game, but in those conditions, well above average against one of the top D’s in football.

  39. ltpm3 says: Dec 9, 2013 5:08 PM

    Amazing that people are talking about the Patriots Super Bowl appearances in 2007 and 2011, but no one talks about that they went undefeated for 18 games then lost to a team with the 6th ranked defense by 4 points while having the 29th ranked defense themselves. Every Patriots receiver dropped balls that should have been caught, balls that were right at their chest and in some cases in their hands, they didn’t catch them so they lost. However, Brady put the ball where it could be caught yet he still gets the blame for the loss and the hatred from the fans.

  40. ltpm3 says: Dec 9, 2013 5:11 PM

    If Peyton’s father, Archie had not been a big league QB in the NFL, there would have been very little attention put on him in both college and the NFL.

  41. packmanfan says: Dec 9, 2013 5:20 PM

    Never assume a players future performance on his past ones.
    Things change.

  42. jersey73 says: Dec 9, 2013 5:26 PM

    Brady into the wind 17-23 220 yards 2 td 0 int QB rating 110

    Manning into the same wind 11-23 97 yards 1 td 1 int. 63 QB rating.

    The drive that manning tied the game was aided by 2 soft PI calls both on 3rd down. 1 was picked but reversed.

    Brady has a QB rating of 95.1 in weather below 32 degrees his team is 16-1 regular season and playoffs. Best all time.

    ———————-

    So Brady had to throw cause he was behind. When Peyton had to throw into the wind, he was successful and scored the tying TD. Yet in OT, Brady couldn’t move his team into scoring position (with the wind)…he got lucky with a special teams fluke.

  43. jasonculhane says: Dec 9, 2013 5:33 PM

    That “narrative” just says he’s played 10 games away from the dome , in the cold, and has a losing record..lol

    Their “away games”…People read into the cold being a factor…If they want to say he’s unperformed in the playoffs versus the regular season, that’s true…His rating is 88.8, but higher then Tom Brady’s and but then both qbs underperform according to the quarterback rating system because both ratings during the regular season is around 96…So what is it?

    Peyton Manning stands in Boston’s way from having their greatest QB of all time undisputed..Peyton will never win those guys over. Those types of people will use Brady’s “home stats” where temps are usually around freezing at this time and use them unfairly against Manning, lol, where Manning hardly ever plays these games and if he does, their away games…. Its hilarious at the lengths these people go to in order to prove a silly argument of 2 great quarterbacks who amongst friends.

  44. wjarvis says: Dec 9, 2013 5:41 PM

    Comparing Peyton’s Passer Ratings (not including this past weeks).

    Career Home – 100.2
    Career Road – 93.7
    Playoff – 88.4
    <40 °C – 84.0 (20 of 22 on road)

    for Comparisons sake Here Tom Brady's too, though it's not quite an apples to apples comparison for the cold weather games.

    Home – 96.6
    Road -95.3
    Playoffs – 87.4
    <32 °C – 91.4 (Over half were at home, but includes some road games as well)

    It's clear that Brady has been more successful in the cold weather both for passer rating and wins. Manning hasn't played that well in the cold, but despite this I still think he's a capable QB in cold weather games and think his reputation is overstated.

  45. wjarvis says: Dec 9, 2013 5:47 PM

    wow wrote C above out of habit should be F

  46. frostymugobeer says: Dec 9, 2013 7:48 PM

    Elway would be considered the biggest playoff/sb choke artist o all time if he hadn’t had a stout Defense and Terrell Davis at the end of his career.
    It takes a TEAM effort people !
    Manning will do just fine in the playoffs this year…..I just hope the Broncos D doesn’t give up long bomb TD’s in overtime so people can all blame manning

  47. fnf417 says: Dec 10, 2013 4:46 AM

    Broncos fans are gonna be disappointed come January might as well brace for it now……if he doesn’t than it will prove me wrong but until then

  48. broncfanwa says: Dec 10, 2013 1:08 PM

    It’s like anything else in the past. Treat it like my mother always told me (may or may not be true, but it works for this little analogy) Italian drivers do their new cars: rip out the rear-view mirror, because what’s behind you doesn’t matter nearly as much as what’s in front of you!

  49. sullijo1 says: Dec 10, 2013 3:05 PM

    I guess it’s better to be like the Chiefs QBs in the last 42 years. They are 0-0 in Super Bowls. Better to not played than to have a losing record?

    Is this the America we live in now?

  50. jjackwagon says: Dec 11, 2013 1:41 PM

    Why didn’t you go back 43 years sulli? Because the Chiefs would have been 1-0 and not fit your argument?
    How many SBs did Denver win w/o T. Davis? Zero. Ergo, TD was much more important than Elway and Moreno will be more important than Manning.

  51. randomjoeblow says: Dec 11, 2013 7:57 PM

    His cold weather record is kind of irrelevant…but considering the fact that he grounds the ball every single time he’s about to get hit, I would like to know what his record would be if the officials called the game correctly..

  52. lanman11 says: Dec 13, 2013 1:45 AM

    Why does the defense of Peyton Manning so often start with an attempt to “knock down” Tom Brady?

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