APYour move, Mr. Snyder.
In a turn that’s been expected since he broached the topic on Monday, Redskins coach Mike Shanahan has decided to start Kirk Cousins at quarterback against the Falcons this week, according to multiple reports which we’ve independently confirmed.
That will trigger the next wave of tension between quarterback Robert Griffin III and owner Daniel Snyder and Shanahan, which already appeared to be considerable.
But it could also create pressure on the Redskins this offseason if Cousins plays well.
If Cousins can do something Griffin has been unable to lately (play well, win), it could create a quarterback controversy that would extend well beyond Shanahan’s employment there.
That might be his parting gift to Dan Snyder, one he seems happy to provide as he walks away.
Can we all agree that the RG3 trade up by the redskins & the trent richardson trade was the worst trades ever made?
Meanwhile the Vikings are preparing to be a dynasty
Falcons might be hapless right now, but hopefully they see the blood in the water and step it up a notch.
HAHAHAHA What a circus. Hail to the burgundy and gold sucking! What a train wreck!!
thepftpoet says:
Dec 11, 2013 9:40 AM
Can we all agree that the RG3 trade up by the redskins & the trent richardson trade was the worst trades ever made?
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As bad as the RGIII deal was, there will never be a trade worse in the NFL than the Herschel Walker deal.
George Steinbrenner, Billy Martin and Reggie Jackson all over again.
The moment that Bob Griffin mentions he wants to finish the season he gets Benched. Something ain’t right in DC.
Pathetic.
it could create a quarterback controversy that would extend well beyond Shanahan’s employment there.
That might be his parting gift to Dan Snyder, one he seems happy to provide as he walks away.
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OR maybe ,just maybe cousins plays well and they can trade him for a 2nd round pick
If Snyder was smart he’d want Cousins starting for the rest of the season. Winning a couple games does nothing for them at this point, so even if he’s committed to Griffin, he should want to see exactly what sort of value Cousins adds to the team either as a backup or as trade bait, and it rests Griffin and gives him a jumpstart on his offseason work (not to mention that he may learn something holding a clipboard). If he just wants Griffin playing because that’s his buddy, then he’s dumber than I thought he was.
I can’t figure out if Kirk Cousins is “the poor kid caught in the middle” or the only real winner who will emerge from this mess.
Dealers choice Dan Snyder. Browns will give you a first rounder (or two?) for either RGIII or Cousins. Would be fun to see what Josh Gordon would do if reunited with RGIII.
LMAO….Glad they didn’t except our trade offer..
Just Sayin’…Go Brownies!!
thepftpoet says:
Dec 11, 2013 9:40 AM
Can we all agree that the RG3 trade up by the redskins & the trent richardson trade was the worst trades ever made?
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RG3 yes but Trent no. The Browns didnt give up as much to trade up. They just swapped first round positions and just gave late round picks. Put a dent in their draft but not a killer blow.
The Redskins invested the farm and their future in this guy….no other trade can compare to this dumpster fire.
haha they just forfeited the season. Thats classic. Lets hear the justification of this move….
The BEST QB pound for pound in the NFL!!! lagicalvoicesays CHAMPIONSHIP….
Or more likely, Capt Kirk will play poorly, and Shanny can devalue any potential trade value. This is lose/lose for the Redskins. Shanahan should be fired for cause, he wont get his money back and its clear that all these stories are coming from him or his son leaking to the press.
The Washington professional football team continues to be the most fun story on football — where no one is rooting for anyone involved.
Awesome!!! Now the value of my tickets for this weekends game will skyrocket! Go Captain Kirk!
savocabol1 says:
Dec 11, 2013 9:46 AM
thepftpoet says:
Dec 11, 2013 9:40 AM
Can we all agree that the RG3 trade up by the redskins & the trent richardson trade was the worst trades ever made?
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RG3 yes but Trent no. The Browns didnt give up as much to trade up. They just swapped first round positions and just gave late round picks. Put a dent in their draft but not a killer blow.
The Redskins invested the farm and their future in this guy….no other trade can compare to this dumpster fire.
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As far as Trent Richardson goes, I think he was referring to the Colts giving up a first round pick for him versus the Browns trading up in order to get him.
Either way, like I said in my original comment, there will never be a worse trade in the NFL than the Herschel Walker deal, despite how bad both these trades were.
Either way the Falcons are going to tank for Clowney.
Didn’t Shanahan pull some back stabbing conniving moves when he was OC in Denver to get Dan Reeves fired so he could land the job ? If it looks like a rat it must be a rat
Top 3 water boys of all time in this order…Bobby Boucher, RG3-10, Jay Cutler
No, i think sports reporters will create a quarterback controversy. A backup who plays better than the starter is doing their job, not creating a controversy.
Not even the best QB on his own team!
This was a great year to root against the Redskins. I only root against them because of that kid Logical nonsense or whatever. Thanks for a really fun season RG3, Shanny and Logic! Hahaha
Everyone seems to be bashing RG3 in this situation, but this is entirely a pissing contest between Dan Snyder and Mike Shanahan. There is no doubt in my mind, and it appears minimal doubt in the mind of the media & football “experts” that Shanahan is just trying to get fired at this point.
RG3 will be the starter next year and he is the franchise quarterback, partially because of what the ‘Skins gave up for him but moreso because the kid proved he can PLAY. This season was a dysfunctional mess and saw the ‘Skins defense giving up a league high 31.2 PPG and Special Teams being the 4th worse (according to PFF) in NFL HISTORY.
A lot of the teams problems are being blamed on RG3, but the fact is a healthy RG3 just masked several of these problems last year. Tough time to be a ‘Skins fan.
Rams are just licking their chops for this upcoming draft.
This gives RGMe more time to plan his next Subway commercial in the off-season…
Dear Washington Redskins,
Thank you for the distraction.
Sincerely,
The Miami Dolphins
Nice!
As a skins fan I hope he plays lights out and wins the last three games.
Then they can send Cousins and Rex to Houston and get a 1st round pick and Schaub in return.
Shanatan Jr can return to where he had success and that will clear the way for a set of coaches that can embrace Griffin.
I’m not saying that Tan and Tan Jr didn’t embrace him but he was put upon them and they are smart enough to realize he isn’t the future…problem is Danny Boy loves him and he isn’t going anywhere.
Yes I think we’re f’d but I can’t rest in war.
HTTR
As bad as the RGIII deal was, there will never be a trade worse in the NFL than the Herschel Walker deal.
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HaHa!! Bad for who?
Robert our offensive line is so bad we want you to sit for the rest of the season so you don’t get killed, but Kirk it’s ok for you…what a cluster f.
thepftpoet says:
Dec 11, 2013 9:41 AM
Meanwhile the Vikings are preparing to be a dynasty
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Meanwhile, Nick Foles is preparing to destroy the hapless Vikings.
Nick Foles doesn’t need a watch…he decides what time it is.
Nick Foles doesn’t do push ups….he pushes the Earth down.
Ghosts sit around the fire and tell stories about Nick Foles.
Nick Foles doesn’t dial the wrong number. You answered the wrong number.
Nick Foles’ mom has a “son” tatoo
Nick Foles turned down the lead role in the lastest Terminator movie because he hates chick flicks
There is no theory of evolution, just creatures Nick Foles allows to live.
Nick Foles counted infinity. Twice.
Nick Foles makes onions cry.
Nick Foles doesn’t play Hide and Seek. He plays Hide and Hope I Don’t Find You.
@nickclique
i hope kirk cousins goes out and passes for 450 yards/3 tds so he can get traded…and then laugh at the redskins with the rest of us. what a mess.
The RGIII trade has worst ever potential because the Rams might end up with either Teddy Bridgewater or Jadaveon Clowney. And two other starters as well. Regardless it will stop teams from doing what the Redskins did.
The Redskins may have a treaded a first overall pick to St Louise! How awesome is that?!
Go Texans win. Go DeadSkins Loss!!
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Leaked Redskins Game Plan
1. Save Kyle Shanahan’s career
2. Watch for the screen
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Not too sure why so many people on here are basically saying the Skins are writing off their season by benching RGIII and starting Cousins.
IMO, Cousins has just as much potential to be a starter as RGIII did. Its not like the kid comes onto the field and looks dismal, he has plenty of potential.
I could easily see Cousins becoming a solid starting QB in the NFL. Not saying he will become a top 5, but a regular starter? Definitely.
Sounds crazy I know, but if I were the Skins, I would try to move RGIII over Cousins.
Some people are harping about the trade, but if it’s greatest value turns out to be the ouster of Shanahan, it’s priceless.
Smart move by Shanahan but why so late? He should’ve benched RG3 5 games ago. The rat must’ve known RG3 would be a bust and he drafted Cousins for insurance. Guessing the owner wouldn’t let him go to the insurance policy.
Well Kirk, just beat the Cowboys in 2 weeks & we’ll praise you for all time in DC!!
the gift that keeps on giving!
Falcons, Cowboys and Giants in the next 3 weeks? #20, #32 and #15 in pass defense.
Cousins could put up some decent #’s the next few weeks and the skins might actually back into a new coach that isn’t a maniac and a solid pick in a draft day trade for Cousins.
I say back in because judging by the way they’ve handled this whole season I refuse to believe they could actually plan something like that.
Cant wait to see what all the RG3 haters have to say when Kirk comes in and lays an egg.
Ummm my vote for worst trade ever is hue giving a 1 & 2 for pick 6 Palmer
Kirk Cousins has a decent chance to match RG-Me’s win total this season.
This had nothing to do with the health of RG3. Clearly, Shanahan wanted Cousins to start from day one of the season. The Redskins are suddenly going to look like the contenders we thought and then RG3 will have to win his teammates over again. Benching RG3 to get healthy? What about the other players playing hurt while they are losing?
In the end, Shanahan will win and retire.
Who could’ve guessed that just 1 year in the league, such a highly touted draft pick/qb would be crippled and benched so quickly?
And there were those that said he was THE qb of the future. A man with a fragile figure of a lady and the ego of an elephant.
The raiders will always have the lock on the biggest qb bust in history, but rgknee-deep in doo doo is a close second.
Everyone seems to think that this is a pissing contest between Snyder and Shanahan. Is it really? I see alot of pissing from Shan but nothing from Snyder.
That is like saying that a guys goes up to a bigger guy and tries to bait him into a fight, however when the big guys doesn’t take the bait, everyone says that there were fighting.
It takes 2 to fight and I only see Shan involved.
jackburton77 says: Dec 11, 2013 9:59 AM
Nice!
As a skins fan I hope he plays lights out and wins the last three games.
Then they can send Cousins and Rex to Houston and get a 1st round pick and Schaub in return.
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That’s not a good trade…. just because Washington is in the business of horrible trades doesn’t mean we are….
How bout this, Cousins for Schaub and a 2nd rd pick(next year) and maybe a 3rd this year.
We don’t want Rex….
What kind of businessman lets a tool like Shanahan jerk around with his billion dollar organization like this?
Oh boy.
This is the curse of logicalvoices, as long as this clown has been posting on PFT the Redskins have been cursed. Thanks logicalvoices.
Hey 8to8. If Cousins does in fact light it up and win these games then they’ll be falling all over themselves to snatch him up.
That trade wasn’t meant to be good, as things stand, it’s contingent upon a few improbable things.
Don’t act like the Texans are above it..you guys suck worse than the Skins lol
Wow. This may have secured Shanahan’s last job in the NFL EVER. To show up your owner like that, in a place where there are only 30 more teams (I excluded Denver and Washington) in a tight knit owners exclusive club.
Wow. I can’t believe he had the stones to do it. RGIII is still injured and I can’t argue with the move. You admire RGIII for trying, but he is 3/4 of what he was last year.
Karma mr. snider. You need to change the name of your team….
Start cousins to get some tape out there to try and trade him?
So much idiocy packed into one comment thread.
1. Redskins are mathematically eliminated so electing to start Cousins is not “forfeiting the season” or writing it off; its been over since week 10.There is nothing to be gained from continuing to start RG, especially when he seems to be regressing each and every week and is at continued risk for injury… Give him a quiet offseason to get back to the fundamentals (i.e. No documentaries, egotistical ad campaigns, etc) so he can re-calibrate his priorities, and hopefully get back to his old self.
2. Despite the is year, there is no way you can call the trade with STL to get RG3 as the worst trade in NFL history. He won the division and the ROY in his first year, and – barring an unfortunate knee injury – was essentially on track to become the league’s next big superstar. Maybe it would’ve worked out, maybe not (we may never know) but this is a QB driven league and he clearly has/had the potential to be one of the better ones.
3. Can we just all agree to ignore that certain space cadet “LVS” commenter. He’s either a complete lunatic, or a trolling fan of another team , but either way, he doesnt represent the opinions of any sane Redskins fans anywhere and gets his jollies off of the attention you give him. Thanks.
Has Luck or Wilson been benched yet?
What else would you have come to expect from this joke of an organization?
I just hope Cousins doesn’t get bitch slapped by Rg’s dad in the locker room.
Snerd, thanks for being the real logical voice of this whole thing.
I’m not a Griffin fan, mainly because of attitude, but he’s far from a bust.
The Redskins cap issues are keeping them from being able to surround Griffin with the pieces any QB would need to win there.
The line stinks.
The Defensive backs are the worst ever.
Lack of a #1 receiver.
#2 is getting long in the tooth….
Lots of problems and the main one (CAP SPACE) created by Snyder and Allen.
Know your facts before trying to generalize.
touchdownroddywhite says:
Dec 11, 2013 9:41 AM
Falcons might be hapless right now, but hopefully they see the blood in the water and step it up a notch.
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If you’re a Falcons fan, wanting them to win this week or any week for the remainder of the season is nuts. You’re this close to getting Clowney and being right back in the playoffs next year. Don’t screw it up!
Look all this is foolish to me. If the problem is your star is getting whacked to much, then you let him go get whacked. Putting on the bench so he doesn’t get whacked, just how many yards does he get for you doing that.
I think you play him and let him take his chances. If he gets hurt he gets hurt. If he can’t learn from that then you dump him as an experiment gone bad.
Its almost like saying, Manning is so great we can’t play him or he may get hurt. DUH!
This Cousins thing is just the kind of crap Shanahan gets into all the time. He creates a lot of these messes.
Save the wear and tear on both young QBs and get one last bit out of Rex Ha Ha
Danny Boy may not interfere with the shanny’s decision to bench RGme, but he will fire shanny after the game. Skins players will weigh in on all the nonsense by laying down (again) against ATL. Skins locker room quits and gets buried this weekend. Unfortunately, the loss will be so one-side that it will not be a fair platform to judge cousins.
jackburton77 says:
Dec 11, 2013 10:44 AM
Snerd, thanks for being the real logical voice of this whole thing.
I’m not a Griffin fan, mainly because of attitude, but he’s far from a bust.
The Redskins cap issues are keeping them from being able to surround Griffin with the pieces any QB would need to win there.
The line stinks.
The Defensive backs are the worst ever.
Lack of a #1 receiver.
#2 is getting long in the tooth….
Lots of problems and the main one (CAP SPACE) created by Snyder and Allen.
Know your facts before trying to generalize.
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What flavor is deadskin Koolaide?
Yo really cant make this stuff up.
This has turned into the NFL’s version of Office Space.
I half-expect the next story to be “After Shannahan Leaves Podium, ‘Damn, It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta’ Plays”
That makes about as much sense as your “Shanahan will be fired after this week” deacon.
When that doesn’t happen…sailor dive off the bandwagon you’re on.
I honestly believe they are now going to play the best QB on their roster. this is just 1 more reason why Shanahan is the most overrated coach ever and his next job will be a coordinator on which ever divion3 college that hires Kyle as it’s head coach.
The Baltimore Browns fans crack me up. I love the fact everyone is talking about us. Hail!!
And to think you guys thought so highly of Griffin coming out of the draft when all along Luck was only one to live up to his hype. Some thought he was better than Luck
@graymares – if you’re so high on Cousins, shouldnt Shanny get some credit for drafting him? He did take a lot of heat for that one if I recall correctly…
deaconrules75 says:
Lots of problems and the main one (CAP SPACE) created by Snyder and Allen.
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Nope, Shanahan created that problem. The league repeatedly warned them not to play games in the uncapped year in writing, and Shanahan went to town anyway.
Lets look at Shanny’s history.
Number of Shanahan coached teams to reach the Super Bowl without salary cap cheating = 0
Number of Shanahan coached teams to win the Super Bowl without salary cap cheating = 0
Goes to Washington and immediately salary cap cheats even though the league repeatedly warned him not to do so.
Shanny has a more than 20 year history of cap cheating. He created this mess for the Washington team. Nobody else.
A bunch of awful people doing awful things to each other…this is damned entertaining!
cluelessdufus says:
Dec 11, 2013 11:06 AM
And to think you guys thought so highly of Griffin coming out of the draft when all along Luck was only one to live up to his hype. Some thought he was better than Luck
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Russell Wilson may have something to say about that….
I hear there a bonafied seasoned veteran QB available names Mark Sanchez. LOL
ochospantalones says:
Dec 11, 2013 10:45 AM
touchdownroddywhite says:
Dec 11, 2013 9:41 AM
Falcons might be hapless right now, but hopefully they see the blood in the water and step it up a notch.
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If you’re a Falcons fan, wanting them to win this week or any week for the remainder of the season is nuts. You’re this close to getting Clowney and being right back in the playoffs next year. Don’t screw it up!
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Fans of teams who are hopelessly done at this point in the season may want them to tank it in order to land a top draft pick in April, but coaches will never allow it. There’s no guarantee they’ll be running the team after a dismal season, so Mike Smith will never allow his current team to blow it just to have a chance at drafting Clowney. Typically if a team does wind up with a pick near the top of the draft, the entire organization may have a regime change, so the head coach wouldn’t be around to rebuild the team. Not saying that Mike Smith is facing being fired, but that’s the norm.
pone27 says:
Dec 11, 2013 10:08 AM
Not too sure why so many people on here are basically saying the Skins are writing off their season by benching RGIII and starting Cousins.
IMO, Cousins has just as much potential to be a starter as RGIII did. Its not like the kid comes onto the field and looks dismal, he has plenty of potential.
I could easily see Cousins becoming a solid starting QB in the NFL. Not saying he will become a top 5, but a regular starter? Definitely.
Sounds crazy I know, but if I were the Skins, I would try to move RGIII over Cousins.
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Dude…no one is saying it’s a bad move, but of course they’s written off the season. That’s no dig on Cousins, but if they had a chance to make the playoffs, there is no way RGKnee would be benched unless he played WAY worse.
Russell Wilson hasn’t done scratch either. Hail!!
As an Eagles fan, I honestly have mixed feelings about this whole disaster. On one hand, it’s fun to see the whole franchise implode around Snyder. It’s also clear I and others were right about RGIII…extremely talented runner, passer…very smart and a very decent person…but possibly injury prone and has a Superman mentality. We told you…Luck was the far superior choice.
All that said, I can’t help but to feel for the fans (excluding logicalvoicesays). Snyder is and always has been a mess. He’s utterly wrecked your franchise. I’ve lost a lot of respect for Shanahan, too. Mostly, it has to do with the way he treats players. We wrote it off when it was an issue with Haynesworth. We chuckled when it was McNabb. But now with RGIII, one has to wonder…who is the problem, here? McNabb–for all his faults–isn’t a liar. He paints a picture of Shanahan that lines up with how I see him: An dishonest, hard-a** coach who doesn’t realize the game may have passed him by.
Best of luck, ‘skins fans. You need it right now.
RGIII’s performance this year ruined fantasy football teams this year…basically because he can’t run like he did last year…
For RGIII the jury is still out, he is really a young QB and in the NFL Quarterbacks are better when they are given time to develop…
I picked up Kirk Cousins in fantasy football…as he may have a big game Vs Atlanta on the road in the dome…
This starting of Cousins will be good for the Redskins …resting RGIII’s legs/knees as they are out of the playoff picture and the team will get a better idea of the value they have in Cousins as trade bait or starting material…it all really makes sense and maybe it will help change RGIII’s sense of entitlement attitude that seems to have been brewing lately …
Anyone who thinks Cousins playing well would create a QB controversy in DC is crazy. RGIII has played some really bad games, but he’s played alot more than 3 good ones.
The first question in any interview for the new head coach is going to be “RG III is the starting QB of this team. Do you have a problem with that?”
If the answer is yes, there will be no second question. The interview will be over.
> Can we all agree that the RG3 trade up by the redskins & the trent richardson trade was the worst trades ever made?
Walker trade the worst.
Ricky Williams trade second worst.
RGKnee trade still out on jury. They guy maybe much better when his knee properly heals.
The Rams are the real winner in all of this.
And isn’t it sad how quickly thepftpoet has driven himself to the logicalvoice level of stupid?
@eatitfanboy – best comment of the thread by far. thank you.
@saintsfan – 2nd best.
top 3 qbs in the,league
1. Blaine gabbert
2. mark sanchez
3. Matt flynn
all in that order
watch how kyle will run the spread offense.
they treat Robert like a running back that throws instead of a pocket QB.
the offensive line still sucks, and the defense cant stop anybody.
bring on 2014, with a whole new team, attitude, and coaching staff
Hey Redskins Fans, remember when you were relevant? Nah, neither do I.
southpaw2k says:
Dec 11, 2013 11:18 AM
cluelessdufus says:
Dec 11, 2013 11:06 AM
And to think you guys thought so highly of Griffin coming out of the draft when all along Luck was only one to live up to his hype. Some thought he was better than Luck
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Russell Wilson may have something to say about that….
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Wilson wasn’t hyped like Luck or RG. He’s playing like a 1st rounder, but you can’t compare him to the pre-draft hype between Luck & RG because it wasn’t there.
Wilson isn’t the only later round pick who is performing well. See: Nick Foles.
Id rather start Jeff Garcia over RGIII
In only a season and a half I think Cousins and Shanahan succeeded in ruining one of the greatest QB talents entering the NFL in over a decade.
Not a redskin fan, but I don’t think rg3 should take all the blame. Some of the blame is offensive line and coaching
You guys always bring up the Walker deal the vikes did. I remember the Saints giving up there whole draft plus for Ricky Williams. Skol.
I think it’s hilarious that people say griffin is a bust. He is kind of self centered, but def has the skill set to excell in the league. And did win Roty and lead the same trash team to the playoffs without 18 mil to spend