Aaron Rodgers out again this week, Eddie Lacy probable

AP

It’s another week without Aaron Rodgers for the Packers.

The team has ruled Rodgers out for the sixth straight game because of a broken left collarbone, leaving Matt Flynn to start against the Cowboys in a game the Packers need to win in order to have realistic hopes of making the playoffs. Coach Mike McCarthy said that Rodgers was upset by the decision, but that he feels it’s the right decision for the organization.

“It’s been a difficult morning going through the conversation with Aaron and Dr. [Patrick] McKenzie,” McCarthy said in his Friday press conference. “[Rodgers] feels like he’s ready to play. He’s very disappointed, he’s frustrated. Speaking with Dr. McKenzie, this is the right decision.”

While it isn’t the decision any Packers fan wanted to hear, it’s hardly an unexpected one given the fact that Rodgers wasn’t cleared medically earlier this week. At this point, it appears to be a decision based on imaging of the injury and there’s nothing anyone with the team can do to make that go their way.

There was better news regarding running back Eddie Lacy. Lacy returned to practice on Friday after missing Wednesday and Thursday with an ankle injury and he’s listed as probable for Sunday.

100 responses to “Aaron Rodgers out again this week, Eddie Lacy probable

  1. This isn’t a terrible thing.

    Eddie Lacy gets more time to spend at McDonalds and get all the Bic Macs he wants.

    Aaron Rodgers gets to go on more dates with Ryan Brain.

    So it’s a win/win situation for both players.

  2. Packers need Detroit and Chicago to lose again or it’s nail in the coffin. Dallas is going to squeak this out at home I’m sure of it. Actually I’m putting $$ on it.

  3. Most overrated QB’s in the NFL:

    1) RGIII
    2) Nick Foles
    3) Eli Manning
    4) Aaron Rodgers
    5) Mike Vick

    In that order.

    #Rodgersissoft

  4. As a Cowboys fan, I would rather a qb coming off and injury versus backup Qb’s tearing up our secondary….

    #RealisticFan

  5. Poor, sorry, pathetic Viking fans. So much jealousy. So much bitterness toward their betters.

    What’s really sad is that one of the great running backs of our generation, Adrian Peterson, will forever be deprived of knowing what it feels like to win a championship title.

    This season is already shot. You can flush the next two years down the toilet too, since they’ll be playing outside (Viking players don’t have the mental toughness to play in the cold, unless they’re former Packers). By then AP will be 31 and ready to retire.

    Aaron Rodgers, who won’t play this week but has a long bright career ahead of him, will hoist that shiny Lombardi Trophy several more times at least.

    Perhaps even this year.

  6. America’s Team is God’s Team says:Dec 13, 2013 2:07 PM

    Most overrated QB’s in the NFL:

    1) RGIII
    2) Nick Foles
    3) Eli Manning
    4) Aaron Rodgers
    5) Mike Vick

    In that order.

    #Rodgersissoft

    ———————————–

    Agree on Manning, RGIII and Vick, however you’re just a troll if you think Foles and Rodgers are overrated.

    Foles is 7-1 this season with 20:1 TD:Int ratio.

    Rodgers is a top 5 QB and you can see how bad Green Bay is without him based on their 1-3-1 record with Wallace, Tolzien, and Flynn at QB.

  7. A pretty good risk to keep Rodgers out another week and hope he fully heals. My grandmother’s bridge circle could drop 40 on that Dallas defense.

  8. emoney826 says:
    Dec 13, 2013 2:04 PM
    And AP can dope up on some PEDs to rebuild his ankle for next week while he takes this week off.
    —-
    Funny how packer fans cant resist mentioning the vikings even in their own threads. Pathetic. Rodgers is soft while Adrian is a man of steel.

  9. Favre would be playing because he’d be through the roof on painkillers

    Aaron Rodgers is soft because his bones won’t grow faster

    Eddie Lacy is slow and fat and completely beasting this year

    Carry on trolls

  10. I somehow find this not a big deal.

    Flynn is the quarterback now, it is what it is.

    Flynn to win! Time to earn that paycheck!

  11. A broken collarbone usually takes a good six weeks to heal and even then it remains sensitive and can break more easily if you fall and land on your shoulder. Not much Aaron or the team can do, just gotta wait!

  12. Doesn’t matter who plays QB for Green Bay, it’s gonna be a shootout for the offenses against two very bad defensive teams. It makes no sense to throw Rodgers out there when their defense can’t stop anyone, especially on the road. Cowboys win by 4.

  13. Cue the trolls caling Rodgers soft… even if the Packers lose that doesn’t give the division away the other teams need to win as well.

    Most of those fans are just jelous because the Packers had 2 qbs lead them to a superbowl in the past 20 years.

  14. As a Bears fan, I approve of this.

    Don’t get me wrong, Rodgers is a good QB, but we see just how mediocre Green Bay is without him.

    Not having a solid backup in place was a horrible move on their part. You never want your starter to go down, but you need to at least have confidence in your backup (Nick Foles is a great example of this).

  15. After the primetime humiliation at the hands of the Bears and full week of the national sports media and the rest of the country making wise cracks and taking cheap shots at the Dallas defense, I’m going to bet that they actually circle their psychological wagons and use all the mockery and abuse to rally around.

    In fact, I’m going to bet they have a big game (at home) against a struggling team and its back-up QB.

    While both teams are desperate right now – only one is fueled by injured pride.

    It also helps that they’re back on home turf, and out of the planet Hoth-like hell of a -9 degree nightmare.

    Cowboys win big, in large part to their defense. You heard it here first.

  16. America’s Team is God’s Team says:
    Dec 13, 2013 2:07 PM
    Most overrated QB’s in the NFL:

    1) RGIII
    2) Nick Foles
    3) Eli Manning
    4) Aaron Rodgers
    5) Mike Vick

    In that order.

    #Rodgersissoft
    ___________________________________

    So “America’s Team” what was Romo in 2010 when he missed 10 games for the same injury?

  17. Aaron Rodgers gets to go on more dates with Ryan Brain.

    _______

    Let’s just say this farfetched phrase has any truth to it..

    Who gives a crap,.I guess when ur team is out of it in october and u have absolutely no knoweldge or respect for the game to draw from.

    You will judge anyone on anything except football. Its 2013 wake up.

  18. I think Dallas wins this with Flynn at the helm but given the sad state in the rest of the North, the Packers may yet win the division.

    The Lions lose to the Ravens and then the Vikings with a well rested Petersen and the Bears lose to the Eagles and then to a Rodgers led Packers team in Soldier Field. Perhaps not likely, but fun to consider.

  19. What’s sad is, given the Cowboys December record in the past, and Garret’s inability to win, I could see ol Matty Flynn lighting up that secondary…and no, I’m not a Packer fan..

    Pack 31-10

  20. jonbeck316 says:
    Dec 13, 2013 2:05 PM
    I told y’all the dude was soft but you just wouldn’t listen.
    —————————————–

    It’s not Rodgers’ fault that the doctors haven’t cleared him yet…

  21. @dontkidyourself…”Vikes won’t have anyone good”??

    Cordarrele Patterson, Xavier Rhodes and Harrison Smith are all good and will be around….I agree the Vikes suck, but they led the NFL in Pro Bowler’s last year. They always have talent. They just lack good coaching and a good QB…

  22. Poor guy is scared. It’s not like Chicago where the rest of the team is filled with gamers that continue to play at a high level. This is the one trick pony packers. Only fun thing to do is grow a mustache.

  23. Instead of basking in the glow of the short-term and temporary downslide of the Packers, you fans of every team that has a legitimate, difference-making QB, should sit up and take note. Your team’s season….and judging from the ignorance of many of the comments, 8 months of your own personal self-worth…rests precariously on the health of that QB. One unlucky fall or pile-up and poof….season’s over.

    For those of you whose team doesn’t have a difference-maker at QB….and that includes at least 20 teams….sit back down and remind yourself you’re only trying to share in your own misery. On the scale of pathetic, that stuff really moves the needle.

  24. “America’s Team is God’s Team” says Rodgers is “overrated”.

    Really? Here are a few of the thing’s people have based their “overrating” on:

    – Highest career passer rating in regular season with a minimum of 1,500 passing attempts (105.2)
    – Only quarterback in history to have a career passer rating of over 100.0
    – Best touchdown to interception ratio in NFL history (186:50)
    – Only player in NFL history to pass for over 4,000 yards in each of the first two seasons as a starting QB
    – Only player in NFL history to throw 45+ touchdowns, and 6 or fewer interceptions in a single season

    Sooooooo…… I’d say you probably should shutup now before you say something even more foolish….

  25. GenXJay says:
    Dec 13, 2013 2:42 PM

    Right here shagytoodles!
    that gb qb chick is soft

    _____

    Enlighten me with what makes him soft?

    I can’t trust a Dr. like you.. I don’t believe you have many patients since you have nothing better to do to sit around with a keyboard in your hand all day.

    Happy Trolling.

  26. Shut him down for the year. Look with the sorry state of Dom Capers comb-over and his “D”, we weren’t going anywhere anyway. We have been spoiled, so lets suffer a poor year, lose out and stock pile good draft picks and restock and reload.

  27. @ America’s Team is Gods team, the biggest chokers in the NFL:

    1. Tony Romo
    2. Tony Romo
    3. Tony Romo

    Get the point? What has Romo EVER done to justify being a great QB? And newsflash, your team is not Americas team. Your Americas team hasn’t done ANYTHING in about 18 years. Nobody outside of Texas fans and bandwagon fans throughout America likes your team.

  28. Contra, if Adrian is a man of steel then I guess snowballs must be his Kryptonite. Doesn’t bode well for the next couple of seasons when the 2,000 Mini fans rattling around in TCF Bank will be bored with their losing team and throwing stuff.
    Everyone who thinks Flynn can’t possibly get the job done missed the game last week. 24 of 32 in a windchill below zero? I doubt that the prospect of playing indoors scares him now that he’s had a couple of weeks to practice.
    It’s nice to cheer for a team that’s still playing for something besides draft position.

  29. Really? Here are a few of the thing’s people have based their “overrating” on:

    – Highest career passer rating in regular season with a minimum of 1,500 passing attempts (105.2)
    – Only quarterback in history to have a career passer rating of over 100.0
    – Best touchdown to interception ratio in NFL history (186:50)
    – Only player in NFL history to pass for over 4,000 yards in each of the first two seasons as a starting QB
    – Only player in NFL history to throw 45+ touchdowns, and 6 or fewer interceptions in a single season

    Sooooooo…… I’d say you probably should shutup now before you say something even more foolish….

    and yet he is nowhere near favre manning brady brees, etc in total yards tds etc etc etc. in fact brees was faster than any other qb in history to reach 50k yards. why hasnt sharon done that yet?

  30. 84smooninlambeaunevergetsold says: Dec 13, 2013 3:19 PM

    Even in a losing season, MVP still wants to keep playing.
    You guys are out of it and there’s talk of shutting down Rodgers.

    Peterson = Father of the Year Does he know how many kids he has?
    Rodgers = MVP SB MVP
    Fixed

    Peterson has a goal, he is just 1300 yards away!

  31. Tony Romo missed 10 games with a broken collar bone. Charles Woodson missed preseason games due to breaking his collarbone for the first time in the 2011 Super Bowl. The second time, he missed 10 games. KC CB Sanders Commings didn’t see the field until week 11 after breaking his collar bone before preseason.

    If Rodgers only misses six games, he will still probably be considered one of the fastest healers on the planet.

  32. leatherface2012 says: Dec 13, 2013 3:48 PM

    and yet he is nowhere near favre manning brady brees, etc in total yards tds etc etc etc. in fact brees was faster than any other qb in history to reach 50k yards. why hasnt sharon done that yet?
    ———————————————-

    Rodgers has essentially been playing for 5 1/2 seasons. Are you honestly asking why he doesn’t have 50,000 yards passing yet? Wow….just, wow.

  33. shoddymnbridgerepair says:
    Dec 13, 2013 3:44 PM
    So Viking fans want him to play with a shoulder that isn’t structurally sound.

    Would you drive over a bridge that isn’t structurally sound?

    __________________________________

    Sadly, some of them did.

  34. deltaoracle says:
    Dec 13, 2013 3:34 PM
    Contra, if Adrian is a man of steel then I guess snowballs must be his Kryptonite. Doesn’t bode well for the next couple of seasons when the 2,000 Mini fans rattling around in TCF Bank will be bored with their losing team and throwing stuff.
    Everyone who thinks Flynn can’t possibly get the job done missed the game last week. 24 of 32 in a windchill below zero? I doubt that the prospect of playing indoors scares him now that he’s had a couple of weeks to practice.
    It’s nice to cheer for a team that’s still playing for something besides draft position.

    Bla bla bla – everyone knows that the only thing the packers are playing for is a huge disappointment in the wild card round and thats even IF they make it there. 1 win in 7 weeks and you get all excited. BTW, you beat a pathetic Falcons team by ONE POINT, nothing much to hang your hat on.

  35. Rodgers has essentially been playing for 5 1/2 seasons. Are you honestly asking why he doesn’t have 50,000 yards passing yet? Wow….just, wow

    when does he hit his streak of 297 consecutive games? by age 53?

  36. emoney826 says:
    Dec 13, 2013 3:15 PM

    And newsflash, your team is not Americas team. Your Americas team hasn’t done ANYTHING in about 18 years. Nobody outside of Texas fans and bandwagon fans throughout America likes your team.
    ………………………………………………..
    1) Google America’s team and tell me what team comes up exponentially more than any other. Still Americas team. Fact.
    2) If they havent done anything in 18 years, then how could fans outside of Texas be “bandwagoners”? They couldnt be, because that’s a contradiction.

    #youlose

  37. Come on, now. They are playing the Cowboys. In December. If you don’t let Dallas go into the half with a 30+ point lead, you’ll be fine because they will collapse in the second half.

  38. leatherface2012 says: Dec 13, 2013 4:04 PM

    when does he hit his streak of 297 consecutive games? by age 53?
    ———————————–

    Who cares? If he keeps playing they way he has been, he’ll be a lock for the hall of fame just like Brees Manning and Farve, who are all just one SB winning QBs (so far), too.

  39. So leatherface2012, so although he holds these many records as I’ve stated, Rodgers is somehow overrated because there are still some records he doesn’t have yet? Career ones that guys who’ve played like three times longer than him have?

    Uh yeah, try again genius.

    Btw, maybe check out punctuation and spell check sometime so people can try to understand your ramblings……

  40. contra74 says:

    Bla bla bla – everyone knows that the only thing the packers are playing for is a huge disappointment in the wild card round and thats even IF they make it there. 1 win in 7 weeks and you get all excited. BTW, you beat a pathetic Falcons team by ONE POINT, nothing much to hang your hat on.
    —————————————————————————————-
    Why is your hat on the floor being stepped on?

  41. Google Americas team and the the Dallas Cowboys come up is the same as googling Big Mac and McDonald’s comes up. Of course Dallas will come up. No other team in professional sports is so self centered to call themselves “Americas Team”. Your point is mute.

    When I say bandwagon fans, I mean fans who don’t pay any attention to sports but wear the Yankees or Cowboys or Lakers gear, because they get the most publicity on ESPN. Again, your point is mute, and so is your overrated team. The Eagles will win your division because they’re simply the better team.

  42. Btw, maybe check out punctuation and spell check sometime so people can try to understand your ramblings……

    hes been in the league for 9 seasons drafted 05 so whats the deal?

  43. Anyone rooting for or associated with the Vikings and is still signing into this site is either a trolling punk or a scorned twink looking for an argument, which you have no chance of winning.

    contra74 says:
    Dec 13, 2013 4:02 PM

    Bla bla bla – everyone knows that the only thing the packers are playing for is a huge disappointment in the wild card round and thats even IF they make it there. 1 win in 7 weeks and you get all excited. BTW, you beat a pathetic Falcons team by ONE POINT, nothing much to hang your hat on.

    __________________________________

    Contra,

    If the Vikings weren’t eliminated from playoff contention, they’d have a shot at putting a decent run together and winning a big game or two (see Chargers over a heavily favored Broncos game last night).

    That’s why they play the games…anything can happen to any team in ANY week of the season. Who knows, the Vikings may actually win a game yet. Doubtful, but who knows.

    The most epic of all moments in Vikings history will be when Minnesota hosts the Packers in the new open top tuna can late in the year and like 12 Vike fans show up and it turns into another home game for the Packers year in and year out going forward. Won’t happen, you say?
    Hahahahaha….Don’t kid yourself.

  44. leatherface2012 says: Dec 13, 2013 4:52 PM

    Btw, maybe check out punctuation and spell check sometime so people can try to understand your ramblings……

    hes been in the league for 9 seasons drafted 05 so whats the deal?
    ——————————————-

    If you want absolute correct grammar, then it’s:

    “He’s been in the league for nine seasons. He was drafted in 2005, so what’s the deal?”

    Don’t worry, somehow I was still able to understand your ramblings.

    So, now you expect Rodgers to beat out Farve when Rodgers was only a rookie and Farve was a firmly established starter? Come on, dude. You are looking dumber and dumber with every post.

  45. favreflavoredwaffles says:
    Dec 13, 2013 4:53 PM
    Anyone rooting for or associated with the Vikings and is still signing into this site is either a trolling punk or a scorned twink looking for an argument, which you have no chance of winning.

    contra74 says:
    Dec 13, 2013 4:02 PM

    Bla bla bla – everyone knows that the only thing the packers are playing for is a huge disappointment in the wild card round and thats even IF they make it there. 1 win in 7 weeks and you get all excited. BTW, you beat a pathetic Falcons team by ONE POINT, nothing much to hang your hat on.

    __________________________________

    Contra,

    If the Vikings weren’t eliminated from playoff contention, they’d have a shot at putting a decent run together and winning a big game or two (see Chargers over a heavily favored Broncos game last night).

    That’s why they play the games…anything can happen to any team in ANY week of the season. Who knows, the Vikings may actually win a game yet. Doubtful, but who knows.

    The most epic of all moments in Vikings history will be when Minnesota hosts the Packers in the new open top tuna can late in the year and like 12 Vike fans show up and it turns into another home game for the Packers year in and year out going forward. Won’t happen, you say?
    Hahahahaha….Don’t kid yourself.
    —-
    Hey, remember when the packers crowned themselves super bowl champs this preseason? Yea, that was awesome. Maybe next year right?

  46. contra74 says: Dec 13, 2013 5:11 PM

    Hey, remember when the packers crowned themselves super bowl champs this preseason? Yea, that was awesome. Maybe next year right?
    ——————————————–

    I won’t call you a liar, but I honestly don’t recall any Packers fans guaranteeing a Super Bowl title this year.

    What I do recall is countless Vikings fans who, after a 10-6 season last year, were fully confident in a 13 win season, including a deep playoff run.

    I guess there’s still a remote chance that those optimistic Packers fans predictions can come true, so at least all Packers fans can hold onto that.

  47. “Hey, remember when the packers crowned themselves super bowl champs this preseason? Yea, that was awesome. Maybe next year right?”

    Vikings fans did the same thing after the draft this year. Look what happened.

  48. This should finish off the season. Dallas defense is bad. But I just cant see Flynn winning on the road this week.
    I would sit Aaron for the rest of the season. Unless both Chicago, and Detroit lose this week.
    That is the only way I bring him back.

  49. I love all the dummies who are calling Rodgers soft and saying Favre would’ve played. Get a clue. He’s out this week because THE DOCTORS WON’T LET HIM PLAY.

  50. @golforepar:

    Nothing wrong with MVP setting lofty goals. Still a nice little season for him. Your guy, who’s too busy eating ham sandwiches hasn’t cracked 900 yet.

    Peterson = Football greatness
    Lacy = The next Biggest Loser

  51. 84smooninlambeaunevergetsold says:
    Dec 13, 2013
    Peterson = Football greatness
    Lacy = The next Biggest Loser
    ////////////////////////////////////////////

    Peterson= sitting at home
    Lacy= still contending

  52. @linemanguy74

    What’s your opinion of the numerous people trying to be the first guy trying to tackle Lacy, more times than not he gets dragged up the field for 2 or 3 yards.

  53. By guess comments saying Rodgers is soft must have never played organized football. .. the diagnosis was 4-6 weeks. What else do you want the doctors to do..

    Meanwhile all the attention on Rodgers playing or not playing what about Randall Cobb??

  54. virger says:

    Favre would be playing because he’d be through the roof on painkillers
    ————————————————–

    Packer fans sure are two faced.

    Back in 1996, when Favre had his seizure and ended up in the ER, all we heard from the fans of the green and gold were he had become addicted to the pain killers that the Packer medical staff gave him and it was an illness.

    Now they claim that Farve would only be playing if he “on painkillers”.

    Funny thing – Favre went through rehab in 1996 and was never on painkillers again.

    That includes playing with a broken right thumb (and a myriad of other injuries) – you know – the hand that he throws the ball with…

  55. linemanguy74 says: Dec 13, 2013 7:52 PM

    What was his last great outing 20+carries for 16yds
    —————————

    Who are you referring to?

    In Lacy’s last outing he carried 20 times for 65 yds. AP’s last outing he went 7 carries for 13 yards.

  56. deadlyjudas says:

    – Only player in NFL history to pass for over 4,000 yards in each of the first two seasons as a starting QB
    —————————————————-

    Not every QB gets to ride the pine for 3 years while watching an NFL legend.

    And let’s talk about how Rodgers in his 4th NFL season (1st year as a starter) took a team that had gone 13 – 3 the previous year and to the NFC championship game and led them to a 6 – 10 finish.

    In 2008 he had 4038 yards. Sound impressive, until you look at how he did it.

    636 of those yards were against the Lions that didn’t win a single game that year. That leaves 3402 yards in the other 14 games.

    If it weren’t for Rodgers getting to play the Lions twice, and the fact that the Packers were playing from behind and playing against prevent defenses in the second half, Rodgers wouldn’t have had a sniff at 4,000 yards.

    FWIW – Mathew Stafford in his first 2 full seasons as a starter (years 3 and 4 in the NFL) had an average of over 5,000 yards per season.

    Passing yardage just doesn’t really mean a lot if you’re not winning games.

  57. Hey Packer Fans,

    Comparing Lacy to AP at this point is ridiculous! He is a rookie that shows promise…that’s it! I’d stick with the tired, worn out , 13 championship angle instead.

  58. beerbratscheese says:
    Dec 13, 2013 8:34 PM
    linemanguy74 says: Dec 13, 2013 7:52 PM

    What was his last great outing 20+carries for 16yds
    —————————

    Who are you referring to?

    In Lacy’s last outing he carried 20 times for 65 yds. AP’s last outing he went 7 carries for 13 yards.
    —————————————————–

    BBC

    Wow!!! 65 yards in only 20 carries??? 3 yards per carry – we’re all impressed.

    Lacy wouldn’t have even been playing the last month if he’d had the injuries that AP has.

    Last 5 games when the Packers needed him to perform well, Lacy has tanked it. He’s only averaged 58 yards per game.

    Same time period (including the 13 yard game last week) – AP has an average of 102 yards per game.

  59. weepingjebus says:
    Dec 13, 2013 2:13 PM

    A pretty good risk to keep Rodgers out another week and hope he fully heals. My grandmother’s bridge circle could drop 40 on that Dallas defense.

    ===================================

    Nice.

  60. Who are you referring to?

    In Lacy’s last outing he carried 20 times for 65 yds. AP’s last outing he went 7 carries for 13 yards.

    when is lacy going to run for 2097 yards? tell me id like to know

  61. contra74 says: Dec 13, 2013 5:11 PM

    Hey, remember when the packers crowned themselves super bowl champs this preseason? Yea, that was awesome. Maybe next year right?

    ____________

    I am sure there truth in that… but if you want a real knee slapper…go look at the comments from the Vikings fans the night they had 3 first round picks….

    They were crowned before their guys even sniffed an NFL field.

  62. tcoeguy says:
    Dec 13, 2013 2:09 PM
    Favre would be playing.

    ———————————————————————————————————————————————— first off favre can’t remember his daughter playing soccer one year… for a whole year??? second favre hurt an elbow in a game wear rodger came in broke his foot and finished the game. rodgers want to play, the packers aren’t letting him. i never realized how many ignorant football fans were out there.

  63. shaggytoodle says:
    Dec 14, 2013 3:40 AM
    contra74 says: Dec 13, 2013 5:11 PM

    Hey, remember when the packers crowned themselves super bowl champs this preseason? Yea, that was awesome. Maybe next year right?

    ____________

    I am sure there truth in that… but if you want a real knee slapper…go look at the comments from the Vikings fans the night they had 3 first round picks….

    They were crowned before their guys even sniffed an NFL field.

    ————————————————————————————————————————————————- there were some packers fans saying this, but i love when people say vikings fans or packer fans meaning all fans of those teams. people have to realize every fan base has their knucklehead fans that have no clue what they are talking about. @contra remember when a lot of viking fans were talking about winning the superbowl after the draft? paperchamps again this year hey?

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