Broncos’ loss gives Patriots control in AFC playoff race

AP

The Patriots may be the biggest beneficiaries of the Broncos’ loss to the Chargers on Thursday night.

With the loss, the Broncos fell to 11-3. That means the 10-3 Patriots, who own the head-to-head tiebreaker over the Broncos, now just need to win their last three games to clinch home-field advantage throughout the AFC playoffs. The Patriots are at Miami on Sunday and at Baltimore next week before closing the season at home against the Bills.

The AFC West race also just got closer: Denver still leads Kansas City and will clinch the division by winning its final two (at Houston and at Oakland), but now the Broncos can’t afford another slip-up, or else the Chiefs would be able to win the division by winning out.

And the Chargers’ upset kept their own slim playoff hopes alive. At 7-7, San Diego still trails both 7-6 Baltimore and 7-6 Miami for the sixth and final playoff spot in the AFC, but the Chargers can at least hope that if they win out and get to 9-7, they’ll get enough help to get to the playoffs.

Ultimately, the Chargers’ win over the Broncos made the AFC playoff race more interesting, and made it more likely that all the contending teams will have something to play for in Week 17.

131 responses to “Broncos’ loss gives Patriots control in AFC playoff race

  1. Wow haters. Imagine the Patriots as the #1 seed and still playing with nothing to lose with all their injuries? Better chance to win the Super Bowl and if it doesn’t happen, everyone will agree the injuries were too much to overcome. Perfect situation. We’ll see.

  2. The patriots are spying anyway.. Don’t you think it’s suspicious always starting off extremely slow, and then killing it in the second half??

  3. I generally don’t care one way or the other about the Broncos’ winning or losing, but I definitely wanted them to win so this would not happen.

    Ugh..not again…

  4. While being a Die hard PATS fan, it is easy to admit, we are desperately wounded both on Offense and Defense. That said Tom B always,,,ALWAYS has a rough time in MIAMI,,,year in and year out. I think the weather and the Babes mess with his head. Watch hime close Sunday,,if he is Blaise’ and somber…this will be a longgggggg day.
    I think “winning out against MI/Blt/Buff is very do-able..with a heavy heavy dose of running it down their throats offense,,keeping the opponents off the field. 2nd, The PATS hurry up offense is best in the league PERIOD. I have no idea why they don’t use it more.
    NE 28-21 over MIA
    NE 32-14 over Balt
    NE 17-14 over Buff

  5. More like it gives the Bengals control in the playoff race. Cincy owns the tie breaker and their schedule is more favorable. They will at least get the #2 seed.

  6. Flash back to off-season when all the haters were saying the Patriots are done and will be last in their division this year. Flash forward to when they will be saying it again this coming off-season.

  7. Regardless of the injuries, I like the team’s chances with Brady under center.
    This is a QB driven league, especially in the playoffs, and there are slim pickings right now in the AFC. Clock is ticking on Brady’s chances to win another, and this might be a great opportunity for them to sneak through a weak field.

  8. patriottony says:
    Dec 13, 2013 7:40 AM
    While being a Die hard PATS fan, it is easy to admit, we are desperately wounded both on Offense and Defense. That said Tom B always,,,ALWAYS has a rough time in MIAMI,,,year in and year out. I think the weather and the Babes mess with his head. Watch hime close Sunday,,if he is Blaise’ and somber…this will be a longgggggg day.
    I think “winning out against MI/Blt/Buff is very do-able..with a heavy heavy dose of running it down their throats offense,,keeping the opponents off the field. 2nd, The PATS hurry up offense is best in the league PERIOD. I have no idea why they don’t use it more.
    NE 28-21 over MIA
    NE 32-14 over Balt
    NE 17-14 over Buff

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    Dude, you really think the Patriots’ easiest game of their remaining three will be in Baltimore?

    First of all, the Ravens have not given up more than 30 points in a game this season since the season opener in Denver. The highest point total in a single game they game up since then was 26, and that was this past Sunday against Minnesota. The Ravens have given up the 8th fewest total points in the league this season. What makes you think the Patriots will just roll over top of them?

    Also, do you not realize that – setting aside the AFC Championship Game this past January – the previous three meetings between these two teams were decided by a grand total of 7 points? In fact, factoring in the title game in January again, the last two games that were lobsided victories were both won by the Ravens (2013 AFC title game and Wild Card round playoff game following 2010 season).

    I’m not saying the Ravens are a lock to win (though they are 6-1 at home this season so far), but it’s not going to a beat down.

  9. The Pats are limited in Offense and Defense. This is not the number 2 seed. Without Gronk this team is lucky to win 2 of last three. In the end the Bengals may control home flield advantage.

  10. And if they lose one game, they’ll probably drop to #3. It’ll be interesting to see if this Pats team can do anything in the playoffs even with home field advantage, but I don’t see them winning out, so probably a moot point.

  11. patriotinvasion says:
    Dec 13, 2013 7:13 AM
    Wow haters. Imagine the Patriots as the #1 seed and still playing with nothing to lose with all their injuries? Better chance to win the Super Bowl and if it doesn’t happen, everyone will agree the injuries were too much to overcome. Perfect situation. We’ll see.

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    Already with the excuses?? Most teams have plenty of injuries, not just the Patriots. The Bengals are missing Geno Atkins and Leon Hall. They are still winning.

  12. A. Caldwell did a better impression of Welker than Welker.
    Question is, where the bleep were Thomas, Thomas, Decker and Moreno?

    The mighty bucking Broncos lose to the Bolts in front of a National Audience at home? Ha!

    Donks and their fans better stop reading (and believing) their press clippings. AFC supremacy race is FAR from over

  13. .

    With a duct tape and baling wire offense and a smoke and mirrors defense, this has to be one of Bill Belichick’s best coaching jobs.

    .

  14. patriottony says:
    Dec 13, 2013 7:40 AM
    While being a Die hard PATS fan, it is easy to admit, we are desperately wounded both on Offense and Defense. That said Tom B always,,,ALWAYS has a rough time in MIAMI,,,year in and year out. I think the weather and the Babes mess with his head. Watch hime close Sunday,,if he is Blaise’ and somber…this will be a longgggggg day.
    I think “winning out against MI/Blt/Buff is very do-able..with a heavy heavy dose of running it down their throats offense,,keeping the opponents off the field. 2nd, The PATS hurry up offense is best in the league PERIOD. I have no idea why they don’t use it more.
    NE 28-21 over MIA
    NE 32-14 over Balt
    NE 17-14 over Buff

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    Dude, you really think the Patriots’ easiest game of their remaining three will be in Baltimore?

    First of all, the Ravens have not given up more than 30 points in a game this season since the season opener in Denver. The highest point total in a single game they game up since then was 26, and that was this past Sunday against Minnesota. The Ravens have given up the 8th fewest total points in the league this season. What makes you think the Patriots will just roll over top of them?

    Also, do you not realize that – setting aside the AFC Championship Game this past January – the previous three meetings between these two teams were decided by a grand total of 7 points? In fact, factoring in the title game in January again, the last two games that were lobsided victories were both won by the Ravens (2013 AFC title game and Wild Card round playoff game following 2010 season).

    I’m not saying the Ravens are a lock to win (though they are 6-1 at home this season so far), but it’s not going to a beat down.

  15. 15starr says: Dec 13, 2013 7:28 AM

    The patriots are spying anyway.. Don’t you think it’s suspicious always starting off extremely slow, and then killing it in the second half??
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    Umm, if they were spying, don’t you think they’d start “killing it” at the beginning of the game?

  16. Denver will still capture the #1 seed. The Pats have 1 more loss in them. It will be either Miami or Baltimore. Baltimore has always been a match up nightmare and Miami is a division rival. Division rival games are always hard fought and tough. Denver found that out last night. It wouldn’t surprise me if the Pats lose.

  17. Denver is more likely to win out than New England. They are finishing the year with the Texans and Raiders. New England has to play Miami, Baltimore, and Buffalo. Miami and Baltimore will be tough for them, especially Miami.

  18. Pfffft, I love Pats fans. You barely beat Cleveland last weekend without a zebra on your team and now you’re tra-la-la-ing through the last three games without Gronkowski. You’ve got glass-ass Amendola and nobody. You get that your shot at a perfect season this year is already over right?

  19. Brady wins last night’s game. No question.

    Manning has stats and MVPs, but who would you rather have in the 4th quarter with all the pressure in the world on them? I saw the look in Manning’s eye … he comes up small in the biggest moments of a football game.

  20. If nothing else, this makes for a fantastic finish down the wire. Looking forward to Sunday’s game and the next 2 weeks.

  21. “Good thing the Patriots and Ravens play next sunday ni…oh wait no, they were flexed out of it.”

    Yup. Not looking like the best decision now is it? If the Patriots win this week the game in Baltimore will probably determine who has homefield advantage in the AFC. If the Patriots somehow manage to get the number one seed Belichick should be coach of the year.

  22. unfortunately, i think it’s a foregone conclusion that the cheats are making the super bowl. the afc is soft as hell, again.

    I look forward to an NFC team violating the cheats in the super bowl though – count on it.

    3-3 in the super bowl is NOT a dynasty.

  23. Belichick should get the coach of the year award with the job he’s done this season. Whether or not the Pats do well in the playoffs, they’ve been counted out so many times this year by most people and still one of the front runners.

  24. Amazing. Going I to the year, no Gronk, no Welker, they were being completely written off by everyone (even me) incredible how they do it year in an year out. And I hate it haha.

  25. I’m not a Denver fan by any means but I cant stand New England. Have developed over the years an anyone but NE philosophy, kinda like anyone but the Yankess in baseball. Bradys an all time player and you gotta respect what he brings to the table but come playoff time do I ever want him & the Hoodie to get bounced.

  26. ALSO – same old boring AFC championship. Whether the cheats win or lose, can we please see someone different for a change? I know the new england honks love it, but believe it or not there are other people in the country who aren’t interested anymore.

    Reminds me of the 90’s Bills – over and over with the same result.

  27. Don’t sleep on the Bengals, who are alive for the #1 seed. They have the tiebreaker over NE (head to head win) & Denver (5 common opponents Den 2-3 record, Cin 3-1 w/Balt still to play.)

    The top two in the AFC are vulnerable and the Bengals have the D to stop these two hall of fame QB’s. Who Dey!!

  28. 15starr says: Dec 13, 2013 7:28 AM

    The patriots are spying anyway.. Don’t you think it’s suspicious always starting off extremely slow, and then killing it in the second half??
    __________________________________

    lol … just keep hating … it’s called making adjustments … great coaches makes them … watch BB during the game … all he’s doing is taking notes

  29. IN addition, it effectively torpedoes the Raven’s chance for the post season. They will almost have to win out against Detroit, New England and Cincinnati in order to get there, and 2 of these games are on the road. SD wins out by beating Houston and Oakland. I think taht the tie breaker goes to Baltimore because of better conference record, but I may be wrong. In any case, they have to win 2 out of 3 against division leaders in order to have any chance.

  30. I see the Pats losing 1, possibly 2 or their final 3 games. The Broncos will still have home field advantage throughout the playoffs, provided they beat Houston and Oakland, which they should do handily. I am not a fan of either team, but if the Pats do somehow finish the season with homefield throughout the playoffs, I still do not consider them a threat to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl.

  31. It’s crazy to think that if the Chargers could have beaten the lowly Deadskins then they’d be 8-6. Woulda shoulda coulda… but still. They’d be freakin’ 8-6. Go figure!

  32. I am a huge Pats fan, but it is embarrassing for the league to have such a terrible AFC that a limping Patriots team will at the very least have a bye.

    In general the product of football has been just awful this year. The NFL needs to either let up of their Bill Polian Pass rules or contract 4 teams.

  33. Chargers making noise from near bottom of the AFC West, the best division in football. As a season ticket holder, the slim playoff hopes make these two last home games the place to be.

  34. …….and if they both lose another game and Cincy wins out, the Bengals get the 1 seed due to beating the Patsies and have a better record over common opponents with the Donkeys!
    Just sayin’…..the Bengals are undefeated @ home.

  35. Watched the game, excellent game plan by the Chargers but the biggest thing that came out of that game was the emergence of the “Real”Payton Manning”, get ready Denver come the playoffs you will be like Indy was multiple times..heartbroken.

  36. 15starr says:

    The patriots are spying anyway.. Don’t you think it’s suspicious always starting off extremely slow, and then killing it in the second half??
    ____________________________

    Yes the Pats are going into other team’s stadiums and Bill is using his Hoodie Of Invisibility to install secret video and audio recording systems.

    Those systems connecting through his other newly developed technology using the new Belichick (TM) Telepathic Signal Stealing System that instantly transmits all the content to the microchip embedded in his skull.

    Pats haters are getting really pathetic these days. Something tells me the team you root for, like you, will be watching the playoffs from their couches.

  37. After the way this season started for both the Broncos and the Patriots (not to mention the Chiefs) I’m beyond stunned that the Pats are in contention for the #1 seed.

    I actually usually root for them not to end up with a playoff bye just because of how poorly it’s gone for them the last few times it happened. With all the injuries though, the bye is a must just to keep anyone else from getting hurt.

  38. Thank you San Diego! Hopefully our guys return the favor by knocking off Miami and Baltimore in the next couple weeks.

    – A Patriots Fan

  39. 1) The losses to NE and SD aren’t on Peyton.

    2) The Bronco’s need to find a Defense… seriously poor. Maybe it would have been better for DelRio to get the USC gig. They’d struggle to consistently stop a paper bag blowing in the wind from reaching the end zone.

    No way you should have to score 30 a game… every game… to win. They can’t stop top teams… so how do you win SuperBowls with that kind of Defensive effort??? Answer – you don’t even make it there.

    That’s pathetic.

  40. Chargers scratch the Patriots backs by beating the Broncos, perhaps the Patriots can scratch the Chargers backs by beating the Ravens and Dolphins.

  41. In any other year (where Wilfork, Mayo, and Gronk would be healthy), I’d consider this a great opening for the Pats. At this point, it’s going to be very tough winning two back to back games on the road in Miami and Baltimore. The Pats have struggled on the road all year.

  42. I love the Pats, as big a fan as there is but I could see them losing to Miami this weekend and I can definitely see them losing to the Ravens. I think it is highly possible they lose 1 if not 2 and fall from the 1 seed and a bye to the 3 seed and a home game against the Ravens or another wild card team.

    They have just been killed by injuries this year. Its nuts

  43. GenoAtkinswillnotbestopped says: Dec 13, 2013 8:33 AM

    Cincy can beat both of these teams.

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    Agreed, but can and will are two different things. It’s a different game in the playoffs; we’ll see if they’re up to it.

  44. Put any other QB on Denver and they are a threat. Put any other QB on the Pats given their injuries and they are under 500. Who is the true MVP? Tommy proves once again he is the greatest of all time and Manning is simply a stat machine.

  45. The pats can pretty much lose to half the league, the last two weeks they barely beat bottom feeders. Once the playoffs start colts, chiefs, balt, cinci can all beat them and probably will. This coming from someone who actually likes brady and thinks what he’s doing is amazing but they don’t bury mediocre teams like a great team should, that will bite them in the playoffs.

  46. Looking forward to Peyton Marino I mean Manning beating up on Oakland and Houston these last two weeks, because that’s what he does best — put up huge numbers against awful teams so people forget the crushing interceptions like last night’s.

    I’m just worried Denver won’t even make it to the AFC Championship. Their divisional game will be in Denver in January, better remind Peyton to pin his glovey-woveys to his uniform so he doesn’t lose them and let his wittle hands get cold!

    The Bengals will never win anything because you’re the Bengals. You live in the worst city in the worst state in the country, and Skyline Chili is horrible.

  47. iknowurider72 says:
    Dec 13, 2013 8:04 AM

    The Pats are limited in Offense and Defense. This is not the number 2 seed. Without Gronk this team is lucky to win 2 of last three. In the end the Bengals may control home flield advantage.

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    Teams get lucky and win games week in and week out. What’s your point?

  48. bengalguy says: Dec 13, 2013 9:34 AM

    …….and if they both lose another game and Cincy wins out, the Bengals get the 1 seed due to beating the Patsies and have a better record over common opponents with the Donkeys!
    Just sayin’…..the Bengals are undefeated @ home.
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    So who’s your money on to beat the Broncos? The 2-11 Case Keenum Texans, or the 4-9 Matt McGloin Raiders? And how do I reach you to take that bet?

  49. The Miami game should be a good one. With no Gronk and the history there, plus the stakes for both clubs this time around, it will be a much more competitive game than it appears on paper.

    And I can’t believe my Broncos lost to…San Diego? This is indeed a Manning team: Scores lots of points except in games that matter. Ugh.

  50. Lol dont stop Pat the Bengals are comen to get you!!!!! We have already and will again, Brady on his back , and AJ GreenTD all day# 2 here we come !!!! Lmao

  51. Odds are against the Broncos losing either of their last 2 but its posible. And I do see the Pats dropping at least one of their final 3. Bengals need to win out which is very possible.

  52. The odds are against the pats. The duct tape will soon unravel. How long could this hold out with the stresses from within and without?Other teams are getting better, like the cincy, ravens, Miami etc, and they are losing players left and right…—– they are making a valiant stand and I pray that their grit and heart prevail. I am mad that the pats organization are cheap. Brady made concessions so they can build a stronger team and look what he got in return? The new guys are just now getting better. I hope it’s not too late.

  53. cowboysaretheworst says:
    Dec 13, 2013 9:54 AM
    I’m baffled how the Pats made it to 10-3 with their roster

    Their roster PLUS the refs is why they are where they are. Miami was killing them @ home until the refs started calling phantom calls against the Dolphins. It was disgusting.

    Even the biggest homer knows they got lots of help when they couldn’t get out of their own way.

  54. My Goodness, how fast the MVP talk and man-crush about Manning has evaporated! Where are those “as certain as there is a Hell” guys who champion Manning as the best in the NFL this year as well as being the best of all time?

    Sure, the Pats have been held together all season with duct tape, bailing wire, and spit. Soon the Pats’ magical balancing act should begin to fall apart, especially now that Gronk is out and the rest of the receiving corp proven to be unreliable when the game is on the line. In the playoffs, the poor offensive line rush blocking and pass blocking, the poor pass defense, and the lack of any real running attack and clutch pass receiving will doom the Pats. It would be a wonder and great accomplishment for the Pats, Brady, and Belichick to get to the Super Bowl, but with all the weaknesses they have across the board, it would require super human efforts by the entire team, and not just super play by Brady and super coaching by Belichick.

    If the Colts or Ravens can catch fire, the Broncos are doomed to lose again in the playoffs, forever cementing Manning’s role as a great QB during the season, but just an ordinary QB in the playoffs when facing elite defenses.

  55. Put any other QB on Denver and they are a threat.

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    Tebow playoff wins with the Broncos: 1
    Manning playoff wins with the Broncos: 0

    #factsarefacts #dontbemad

  56. yoc19 says:
    Dec 13, 2013 10:54 AM

    Ravens fans forget Brady is 5-2 vs. Joey Flaccid and terrell Tuggs.

    Actually Brady is 3-3 vs Flacco, with five of the six games being played in Foxboro. Brady won games by 3, 6, and 3 (Cundiffed). The Ravens won a blowout in ’09, won by two TD’s going away in last years AFCCG, and won by a point in Baltimore last reg season.

  57. hehateme2 says:

    cowboysaretheworst says:

    I’m baffled how the Pats made it to 10-3 with their roster

    Their roster PLUS the refs is why they are where they are. Miami was killing them @ home until the refs started calling phantom calls against the Dolphins. It was disgusting.
    ______________________

    Blaming the refs, the last refuge of fans of teams who don’t play well enough to win.

    You ignore the numerous awful calls and non-calls against the Pats this year. The Pats have had plenty go against them that probably shouldn’t have.

    What’s disgusting is the general state of the ref teams and their system of so called “accountability”. The refs have been awful in every single game I’ve seen this year. They miss calls against every team, the make phantom calls against every team.

    You may not like the Pats, but the refs are a problem that has screwed all 32 teams this year including the Pats. Good teams keep playing to the clock runs out and find ways to take advantage, bad teams cry about the refs after the game.

  58. Pats have half an All Pro team on injured reserve. And they’re in position now to win home-field advantage for the playoffs? All the irrational haters out there won’t want to hear this, but Belichick’s coach of the year for what he’s done with what he has.

    That said, if the Pats get home-field advantage, it probably means another playoff loss in Foxboro. They’re gamers for sure, the most resilient team in the league, as far as I’m concerned. But you can only take so many body blows before your knees give out.

    Cue the “Rocky” theme, though. Just in case.

  59. Ok, Pats.

    SD needs to win out and have Baltimore and Miami each lose twice. The Pats play them both over the next two weeks, so you can return the favor. Two wins in return for the Chargers one win, but you get home field out of it. Fair deal.

    Problem is getting those two other losses…

  60. Well…Chargers helped the Pats, now it’s time for them to help the Chargers and themselves by beating Miami and Baltimore.

    Not an easy task as they always struggle in Miami and Baltimore is a thorn in the ass of Brady and BB.

    And yeah to that Cincy fan above, you have two key injuries, big deal.

    They’ll throw up on themselves when it matters like they always do as Marvin Lewis can’t help it; even if Cincy does win the #1 seed.

  61. I think everyone except the Patriots is fed up listening to their injuries. Who cares???
    Don’t think the Dolphins are going to “lie down”
    on Sunday. This should be a good game and go Dolphins!!

  62. Actually, the Pats are the very first to be fed up listening to the injuries. Have you ever heard anyone from this club make that excuse?

    Nope…it’s the talking heads that keep bringing it up. Gronk’s injury has been played over and over and over again. Trust me, most of us Pats fans are sick of it and ready to move on. It is what it is as every team is dealing with key injuries. Look at Green Bay…

  63. harrisonhits2 says: Dec 13, 2013 1:05 PM

    hehateme2 says:

    cowboysaretheworst says:

    I’m baffled how the Pats made it to 10-3 with their roster

    Their roster PLUS the refs is why they are where they are. Miami was killing them @ home until the refs started calling phantom calls against the Dolphins. It was disgusting.
    ______________________

    Blaming the refs, the last refuge of fans of teams who don’t play well enough to win.

    You ignore the numerous awful calls and non-calls against the Pats this year. The Pats have had plenty go against them that probably shouldn’t have.

    What’s disgusting is the general state of the ref teams and their system of so called “accountability”. The refs have been awful in every single game I’ve seen this year. They miss calls against every team, the make phantom calls against every team.

    You may not like the Pats, but the refs are a problem that has screwed all 32 teams this year including the Pats. Good teams keep playing to the clock runs out and find ways to take advantage, bad teams cry about the refs after the game.
    ——————–

    He’s right though, I was watching that game and that’s precisely what happened. I would like for ONCE for a fan of a team that won on the strength of shady officiating to admit it without qualifying it by deflecting to some other game, saying “there were bad calls both ways”, or worst yet, saying someone is “crying” for pointing out facts that you happen to not like.

  64. I was thinking if Peyton has to play in Foxboro in the playoffs it’s all over for the Broncos.

    But then I relized that if Peyton had to play in DENVER in the playoffs it would be all over for them too!

    Maybe the best thing for DEN would be to lose out and get a wildcard spot so they have to travel for all their playoff games.

    What a mess.

  65. Pats hater logic:

    Pats lose Jets game because of controversial call: Get over it Pats fans, that’s football. It was a good call.

    Pats lose Panthers game because of controversial call: Get over it Pats fans, that’s football. Right call. Karma for the tuck rule.

    Pats win Browns game because of controversial call: I am outraged. This league is fixed. I hate it when refs decide games!1!1! Admit it and own it Pats fans. You won because of the refs. Sniff. Spygate and cheating. Sniffle. ADMIT IT! Sob.

    Silly Pats haters. Truly a never ending source of comic delight.

  66. .

    @mrwright212

    “I would like just once for a fan of a team to admit…. without qualifications ”

    The Browns got hosed in Foxboro last week

    .

  67. Danny Woodhead, successful Belichick sleeper agent No. 65.
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    Belichick obviously paid off Woodhead to spy on the Broncos and steal their signals.

    Cheatin’ again I see…

  68. The Browns got hosed in Foxboro last week
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    Nope. Defender didn’t even look back at the ball. Flag will get thrown every time.

    I will admit the Browns did give the Pats a much tougher game than the Broncos and the so called “MVP” did. Hmmm….

  69. Jason Campbell at Foxboro: 29-44, 391 yards, 3 TD

    Peyton Manning at Foxboro: 19-36, 150 yards, 2 TD, INT

    Some MVP. To think he can’t even do better than Jason Campbell did against the same opponent.

    #justsayin

  70. Every year my favorite Christmas present is reading the new ones that Patriots’ haters come up with.

    And this year – they have outdone themselves, as they did last year and the year before that and the year before that, ….

    Thanks guys and gals.

  71. One more thing – one of your favorite complaints about us Pats’ fans seems to be the fact that we are obnoxious and arrogant – both at the same time.

    One of these years it is going to dawn on you that we are PROUD of that.

    You would be too.

    We’ll bring the cheese – you bring the whine.

  72. brazzz01 says: Dec 13, 2013 2:26 PM

    Jason Campbell at Foxboro: 29-44, 391 yards, 3 TD

    Peyton Manning at Foxboro: 19-36, 150 yards, 2 TD, INT

    Some MVP. To think he can’t even do better than Jason Campbell did against the same opponent.

    #justsayin
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    The Browns have a great defense. The Broncos have anything but. The Patriots don’t win without a fluky special teams play in overtime. Tell us more.

  73. 15starr says: Dec 13, 2013 7:28 AM

    The patriots are spying anyway.. Don’t you think it’s suspicious always starting off extremely slow, and then killing it in the second half??
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    I am not a fan of the Pats but we have to give them credit where it is due. Their coaching has been spectacular. How you can make such a statement and is beyond me? Perhaps you should actually watch sit down and watch a game.

  74. I forgot one:

    Tom Brady’s playoff wins since 2010:3
    Mark Sanchez:2
    Tim Tebow:1
    Peyton Manning:0

    #OOOOUCH

  75. The Browns have a great defense. The Broncos have anything but. The Patriots don’t win without a fluky special teams play in overtime. Tell us more.
    ————-
    #excuses

    Delicious.

  76. Mr. Wright 212 says:
    Dec 13, 2013 2:38 PM
    …….. The Patriots don’t win without a fluky special teams play in overtime. Tell us more…………

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    Your Giants don’t win the 07 SB without Tyree’s magic catch; that play even continuing when Eli was just a second away from having the play being whistled dead after being in the grasp of several Pat’s players.

    fluky plays are part of football.

  77. aljack88 says: Dec 13, 2013 3:20 PM

    Mr. Wright 212 says:
    Dec 13, 2013 2:38 PM
    …….. The Patriots don’t win without a fluky special teams play in overtime. Tell us more…………

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    Your Giants don’t win the 07 SB without Tyree’s magic catch; that play even continuing when Eli was just a second away from having the play being whistled dead after being in the grasp of several Pat’s players.

    fluky plays are part of football.
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    Someone’s still stinging.

    Way to miss the point. Patriots fans talk like they blew out Denver and that Manning was the reason why (to continue the tired narrative that Manning haters have).

    Two clean Super Bowl wins >>> Three Asterisks.

  78. Two clean Super Bowl wins <<<< three clean SB wins

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    Fixed your post, as facts are always better than fantasy.

    You Pats haters sure are upset these days for some reason. Don't be sad…. it's only a game.

  79. The Giants own the Patriots. Why would I “hate” them ha? Is delusion a prerequisite for being a Patriots fan?

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    I’m sure living in the past is wonderful and all, but I prefer to live in the present. And in the present my team is competing for the #1 seed in the conference and your team is a hot mess.

    The Pats admittedly have an uphill climb in the next 3 games to go 3-0 and lock down that #1 seed. It’s a shame the Giants aren’t one of those teams. The more easy wins for the Pats, the better.

  80. I think the last time the Pats beat the Giants was by three points in 2007, how did that perfect season work out for you? How did you fit that 2007 Lombardi Trophy in the trophy case? Did you take the spygate videos out?

  81. think the last time the Pats beat the Giants was by three points in 2007, how did that perfect season work out for you? How did you fit that 2007 Lombardi Trophy in the trophy case? Did you take the spygate videos out?
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    Perfectly understandable that Giants fans insist on living in the past. But as I said I prefer to live in the present.

    Speaking of the present, how many wins do the Giants have this year? I don’t follow laughably inferior football teams at the bottom of the standings so I wouldn’t know.

  82. You don’t follow them now that can’t film them? How many Super Bowls you guys win since then.

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    No, I don’t follow them because sadly, teams that are among the dregs of the NFL just don’t interest me that much.

    And regarding the soon to be division champs (yet again) and winners of more Super Bowls in the past 20 years than any other team in the NFL… it’s a shame they don’t get to play the Giants in their last stretch of this regular season instead of the Ravens, Dolphins, and Bills. I fear all 3 of those teams a lot more than I would fear the Giants.

    But you go ahead and relish in the past. I won’t stop ya. Hey I heard they’re going to show Super Bowl 42 on the History Channel soon…. And the game will come on right after the dinosaur show. Quite fitting I must say.. I mean they do like to show ancient history every now and then. I’m sure if there’s a dinosaur still around he too would like to think about days gone by that are no more….

  83. Yes, Justin does have something in common with a rule in the book that thankfully helped the Pats on their way to a dynasty.

    As fun as it is to talk smack I have nothing but respect for the Giants organization and especially Coach Coughlin. As much as the result of 2007 stung, part of me deep down respects the Giants for the 2007 run – going all out to try and beat the undefeated Pats in week 17 and then doing it in the SB. Can’t help but respect that.

    Or perhaps I’m really just comparing them to the gong show that is other NY franchise…

  84. An amazing fact of the 07 Giants is that by the end of September of that season, the New York media and all those loyal fans were screaming for Coughlin’s head to roll. They’re so lucky that he is thick skinned and a very good coach. I hope he leaves on his own terms and not have a boot print on his backside.

    and hey, mr selfrighteous, last time I checked, I didn’t see any *** anywhere. But we know you don’t bother to look anything up.

  85. Tom Brady’s SB wins since 2005: ZERO
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    And that is relevant to 2013 because……………

    ………. hmm, you got me there.

  86. golfsox78 says:
    Dec 13, 2013 8:36 AM
    Denver will still capture the #1 seed. The Pats have 1 more loss in them. It will be either Miami or Baltimore. Baltimore has always been a match up nightmare and Miami is a division rival. Division rival games are always hard fought and tough. Denver found that out last night. It wouldn’t surprise me if the Pats lose.

    Epic forsight….. Go Broncos!

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